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i say swears online posted:yep. his rolling stone work in 08-09 was one of the things that pushed me over the edge. and now everyone is going insane Taibbi (and Ames and the War Nerd) made me interested in left politics around then and I have tried to take his more recent takes charitably but yeah he has crossed a line at this point.
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My read on this Taibbi thing is he’s probably going into this based on his experience with the whole exile debacle from a few years ago. People did try to take his career from him over stuff that ended up being completely false.
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Xaris posted:2020 is gunna claim Brace Belden before the years end Nah Brace will be one of those people that inexplicably live until they'e like 93
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Answers Me posted:Nah Brace will be one of those people that inexplicably live until they'e like 93 The CIA takes care of its own.
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Eegah! posted:My read on this Taibbi thing is he’s probably going into this based on his experience with the whole exile debacle from a few years ago. People did try to take his career from him over stuff that ended up being completely false. this is where I was at as well until the most recent freakout. I can see how someone who has been dogged for decades by disingenuous shitheads trying to ruin his entire life for some dumb crap he wrote in his 20s would be wary of hashtag cancelled poo poo. but attacking someone for believing reade's story or not believing the blatant spin put out by apparatchiks is something else entirely and shouldn't be tolerated, period. tom kite posted:Maybe you know, what episode was this? I think it was the tlaib episode that they discussed it in detail but katie had definitely brought it up before then and they both agreed that it was 100% hosed that metoo was going to get axed to protect joe loving biden of all people, one of DC's most prolific creeps.
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Out of everyone, out of all the squealing squeaking piece of poo poo right wingers he could’ve chose, god had to take Michael. YOu could’ve taken Rubin, Shapiro, Crowder, and all manner of good choices people wouldn’t mourn the loss of. But you had to take Michael. gently caress you, God, just gently caress you.
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Al-Saqr posted:Out of everyone, out of all the squealing squeaking piece of poo poo right wingers he could’ve chose, god had to take Michael. God isn't real and the cascading complex chemical reaction that we mistake for some level of higher purpose can stop to work at any moment
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zegermans posted:God isn't real and the cascading complex chemical reaction that we mistake for some level of higher purpose can stop to work at any moment out of all the ignored zegermans posts this had to be one I click on. gently caress you
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Jul 21, 2020 14:29
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Michael Brooks, you will be remembered. Rest in power, brother
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RIP Michael BrooksGio posted:my next favorite was the healthcare episode that went at length advocating for the libertarian “FREE THE MARKET” healthcare solution and had maybe one throwaway line that was something like, “or socialized medicine i guess” Planet Money does the insane neo-liberal thing where they think the magical solution to literally every problem is to setup a market. Homelessness? Market! Healthcare? Market! Marital problems? Market!
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Al-Saqr posted:Out of everyone, out of all the squealing squeaking piece of poo poo right wingers he could’ve chose, god had to take Michael. https://twitter.com/se_bon_en_fait/status/1285347636967624704
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tinstaach posted:Born 1983, so that would make him either 36 or 37. You always just kind of assume you'll at least get 70. gently caress.
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Pulcinella posted:RIP Michael Brooks they infuriate me more than frothing reactionaries that rail against unions and social programs bc they think theyre handouts for the lazy, or whatever. i mean at least they admit to liking the system bc its cruel and vindictive to people on the margins of society. planet money is libertarians convincing ostensible do-gooder liberals that “no actually this system that grinds people into dust is Good and Better than the alternatives.”
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Can I also just say gently caress Kai Ryssdal from Marketplace in general? Such an insufferably smug voice that has clearly never suffered a day in their life giving news through the lens of elite capitalism to listeners who have likely never suffered a day in their lives either.
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I mentioned this before, but there was a phase either in 2015 or 2016 where marketplace was on a full throated campaign against increases in the minimum wage. One story was about this town in the west coast that raised the minimum wage to 15. They interviewed two "small business owners." The one in the town that raised the minimum wage was complaining about how she had to let people go because she couldnt afford them anymore. The one in the town that did not raise the minimum wage was complaining how it was impossible for her to hire people because everyone wanted to work in the town that raised the minimum wage. And like, how can the two be anywhere close to the norm, unless you think there's a bunch of minimum wage workers just laying around doing nothing hoping for a 15 dollar job? The other story was about how an increase in the minimum wage would make it harder for non-profits that provide care for disabled people. Including an interview by someone talking about how they wouldn't be able to live without the care they received. It is a program designed to give talking points to bleeding heart libs about how crushing the poor in the name of the market is actually the humane thing. joepinetree has issued a correction as of 16:19 on Jul 21, 2020 |
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As Mark and Yasha wrote up years ago, Planet Money was underwritten by a single bank and the host also received speaking fees for this bank's events, none of which was disclosed to listeners of the show. http://shameproject.com/report/adam-davidson-corrupt-wall-street-booster/
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joepinetree posted:It is a program designed to give talking points to bleeding hard libs about how crushing the poor in the name of the market is actually the humane thing.
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Sardonik posted:Can I also just say gently caress Kai Ryssdal from Marketplace in general? Such an insufferably smug voice that has clearly never suffered a day in their life giving news through the lens of elite capitalism to listeners who have likely never suffered a day in their lives either. i dont remember whether i first heard this in this thread or the old gbs itt we are npr hosts thread, but in any case this is the proest click possible about marketplace https://soundcloud.com/relentless-picnic/ep-26-this-is-marketplace
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noted well-off people, transfolk
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zegermans posted:noted well-off people, transfolk tracey is such complete scum
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zegermans posted:noted well-off people, transfolk yeah the first trans people I've met were coworkers at a fast food place, meanwhile Tracey hasn't done anything with his life other than post
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Eegah! posted:My read on this Taibbi thing is he’s probably going into this based on his experience with the whole exile debacle from a few years ago. People did try to take his career from him over stuff that ended up being completely false. my perception: from 2016 onward, a significant crowd started to say that they were actual real deal socialists rather than saying they trended in the democratic left, and that broke some brains the problem is that a lot of people who considered themselves "left" made the mistake (and still make) of considering this moment was a radicalization of the democratic left, and they find impossible to reconcile socialists agreeing with their earlier relevant talking points and saying "yet you are full of poo poo right now and democrats should eat poo poo too"
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Zedhe Khoja posted:or maybe hes still bitter about the attempted hitjob over the exile book and its combining with old man crankiness to melt his brainmeats now that warren ellis has been metoo'd i very much hope we can stop using this word forever Eegah! posted:My read on this Taibbi thing is he’s probably going into this based on his experience with the whole exile debacle from a few years ago. People did try to take his career from him over stuff that ended up being completely false. also iirc he'd just released a book about eric garner and the "controversy" sucked all the air out of that conversation
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StashAugustine posted:yeah the first trans people I've met were coworkers at a fast food place, meanwhile Tracey hasn't done anything with his life other than post Tracy's understanding of society can't deal with people being anything other than avatars of whatever identity he bins them in.
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I've twice tried reading Taibbi's screed but it's even worse than the previous one a few weeks, at first I thought someone had dug it out again not that he wrote a second piece about cancel culture. Maybe I'm just a bad reader but even on its own it's a worthless boring piece.
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Brooks dying loving sucks, for a million reasons. The outpouring of support was surprising, and hopefully it results in more people who otherwise may never have heard of him getting exposed to his work and that of people he helped break through. Sam is live on Twitch right now and it's friends of Michael calling in. Been a semi-daily listener to MR for a couple years now, it's a great commie Limbaugh equivalent even if Sam isn't exactly a radical, lots of content. This poo poo heap of a year just keeps getting worse and worse. Varinn posted:a small but significant chunk of every generation of leftist commentators will eventually descend into being absolutely lovely conservative talking heads. remember that a lot of the anti-iraq war bloggers became center right centrist dipshits too. class interests win some people over into being fueled by petty grievances Happens all the time with every generation. Eventually anybody who is willing to be co-opted, will be. Look at all the 60's radicals who are hedge fund execs or Raytheon lobbyists now Pirate Jet posted:no, a story got spread - either by the Biden campaign or the media itself, I’d believe either - about how Reade inaccurately represented her education on her resume. Reade had a legit complicated education, and even if she was lying, who loving cares everyone lies on resumes, and even if you do, that doesn’t have anything to do with whether or not you were raped If the narrative sounded familiar it's because it was. Biden hired Weinstein's coverup specialist into a senior position in the campaign for a reason. Biden also famously lied about his education and his resume but nobody ever seemed to think to bring it up for some reason
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Breakfast All Day posted:the left wants to regulate not just what goes on on your bedroom, but everywhere! where am i supposed to keep my child slave labor in this left fash dystopia i decided to read that article because i was legit curious how the left were being "busybodies" who wanted to control what people were doing in their bedrooms. Shockingly enough, there wasn't one single example of such a thing. it was pretty much all bitching about some diversity seminar poo poo going on at some places. it was the usual 'woke people are ruining everything!' screed, but what really pissed me off was towards the end when he complains that this is what the left is focusing on when trump is rounding up people protesters in portland. like, loving seriously dude? who's the one that's whining about cancel culture above trump's gestapo bullshit again?
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mila kunis posted:The radio war nerd episode on rural washington and right wing radicalization is loving nuts and everyone should listen to it https://www.hcn.org/issues/52.8/south-corruption-new-mexicos-thin-blurred-line more stuff on the lines between police and right wing militias blurring
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Epic High Five posted:Brooks dying loving sucks, for a million reasons. The outpouring of support was surprising, and hopefully it results in more people who otherwise may never have heard of him getting exposed to his work and that of people he helped break through. Sam is live on Twitch right now and it's friends of Michael calling in. almost 20k people on the livestream  edit: listening to the stream, sam is handling things way better than i could have edit 2: actually, he just started breaking down crying 
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Epic High Five posted:Been a semi-daily listener to MR for a couple years now, it's a great commie Limbaugh equivalent even if Sam isn't exactly a radical, lots of content. I think the reason the show work(s/ed) is that Sam is a pretty good interviewer but also hires people who are more radical them him and is able to have healthy debates with them on stuff (most of the time). Makes for a more interesting show than those where they just invite on an activist and let them talk without a break for fifteen minutes (Democracy Now, The Dig) and those where its just the host with quirky ideas and a crew of sycophants (Dore, etc.).
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Joementum posted:I think the reason the show work(s/ed) is that Sam is a pretty good interviewer but also hires people who are more radical them him and is able to have healthy debates with them on stuff (most of the time). Makes for a more interesting show than those where they just invite on an activist and let them talk without a break for fifteen minutes (Democracy Now, The Dig) and those where its just the host with quirky ideas and a crew of sycophants (Dore, etc.). It's great, and when I think about all the evils that social media and youtube hath wrought I also can't help but think that without it something like the left media as it exists now would be basically impossible. Just lunatics on street corners howling about stabbing the rich and handing out pamphlets as God intended. After his history with trying to expand the platform of the left into the mainstream it's admirable that he's still willing to give a big platform to anarchist goths and internationalists
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THS posted:tracey is such complete scum Tracey has always been a real piece of poo poo, but he's been on a tear lately truthering news coverage of the protests: https://unherd.com/2020/07/the-ugly-truth-about-the-blm-protests/ The right-wing media isn't going to give you a sinecure, you loving hack.
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