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Jose posted:the 4th wall is broken you say? loving christ. That's grim. It's 100% gonna be West Wing bollocks about how it's okay to kill the browns if you handwring enough first. And if it covers BLM, it's totally going to be "actually we only want token gestures, and for NOTHING ELSE to structurally change." with Clinton nodding solemnly with "Welp. I'll see what I can do *winks*" [e]: 311 - the amount of my braincells that just died on masse trying to comprehend the Hilary Clinton Fanfic Show.
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Goldskull posted:Mask Chat: it's about 50/50 round here (E Finchley) across the age spectrum. Supermarket staff don't seem to bother at all now, going from 'as much PPE as they can' to 'gently caress it whatever'. The Budgens has a big sign up already saying 'DO NOT ENTER UNLESS WEARING MASK PLEASE', and the woman in front of me contemplated this by blocking the entrance with her old lady trolley, until a mother/daughter team just walked straight in past with no masks. I can't see them enforcing it come Friday due to all the ballache security/staff'll get off Karens & Dickheads if Twitter's anything to go by in the last week or so. Rent strike rent strike rent strike rent strike. Join your local renter's union, organise a rent strike. Don't pay the back rent.
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I certainly wouldn't be intent on paying rent, it's something you do because you have to, property owners don't need or deserve it.
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Jul 22, 2020 18:21
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Pesky Splinter posted:loving christ. That's grim. It rules because all the terrible poo poo that happened because of Trump is going to have to happen anyway so Hilary can show how she would have handled it better. It'll have to live in this quasi state where everything is terrible even though Hilary is killing it being a #girlboss
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OwlFancier posted:I certainly wouldn't be intent on paying rent, it's something you do because you have to, property owners don't need or deserve it. Well indeed, but I tell them what they want to hear. I'll look at rental unions.
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Jul 22, 2020 18:33
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OwlFancier posted:Though I would incidentally back a policy of shooting all motorists. I'm a motorist and I fully support this.
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It confused the gently caress out of the gammon sat there reading the Mail, anyway.
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OwlFancier posted:I certainly wouldn't be intent on paying rent, it's something you do because you have to, property owners don't need or deserve it. I think you'll find that they spent entire hours finding a property management company to run the place for them. Hours.
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E: Never mind, got the wrong impression from watching a momentum video with the audio off. Carry on.
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Jul 22, 2020 18:41
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Mask chat; last week I went an Aldi in Bradford which, last I checked, had the second highest number of outbreaks, and was the only person in the entire store wearing a mask. Staff included.
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Jose posted:I assume whenever I'm blocked it's due to people I follow rather than anything else Theres got to be an established way to describe liberals who are completely down for wars and war crimes but if you call them out on it they'll just straight up say you're a supporter of the regime they're targeting and all of their crimes. Because thats what Oz does, every day of his empty life.
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Bobby Deluxe posted:Oh, and now even Momentum seem to be angling towards Labour needs to out-conservative the conservatives: This might be me being dense but I don't get that at all from the video? It explicitly says Labour is edging towards Conservatism and needs to adopt socialist policies. The rest of all very non-specific but abolishing student loans and putting controls on rent don't seem like endorsements of conservatism. e: And it doesn't say 'we can't look back', it says 'we shouldn't backtrack'. ee: Right ok
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Pesky Splinter posted:loving christ. That's grim. I just read an amazon review of the book and  it's so much worse than this.Here's a little snippit: The final part is set in 2015 (with flashbacks), and Hillary is running for President for the third time. (In fact, it was the second time.) And then Bill, two of whose marriages had ended in divorce and who was known to have participated in sex orgies in Silicon Valley, decided that he, too, would run for President. He drew huge crowds, making big inroads into the base of Hillary’s supporters. She defeated Bill for the Democratic nomination and then Jebb Bush for the Presidency, having been helped by the endorsement of Donald Trump! Her majority in Congress was sufficient for her to get through progressive legislation on citizenship for undocumented immigrants, climate change, and some gun control. blunt fucked around with this message at 18:51 on Jul 22, 2020 |
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stev posted:This might be me being dense but I don't get that at all from the video? It explicitly says Labour is edging towards Conservatism and needs to adopt socialist policies. The rest of all very non-specific but abolishing student loans and putting controls on rent don't seem like endorsements of conservatism.
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Bobby Deluxe posted:Oh, and now even Momentum seem to be angling towards Labour needing to out-conservative the conservatives: I mean it literally says in text and voice on the screen "labour can not be more conservative than the conservatives" so I really don't get how you got that impression.
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OwlFancier posted:I mean it literally says in text and voice on the screen "labour can not be more conservative than the conservatives" so I really don't get how you got that impression.
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Jose posted:I assume whenever I'm blocked it's due to people I follow rather than anything else Me too. My only blockings are by people I've never interacted with. Even the dreaded Akehurst. I can only assume it's because he has blocked everyone who follows Jewdas or Jewish Voice for Labour. If someone shares a tweet which I can see I'm blocked from and I want to see it, I simply sign in using an account that is completely unrelated to politics and is 100% scientist or science organisation follows (and fight my fingers not to reply to it until I go back to my hip-shooting account.) Ed: actually I've recently realized that I can see the tweets without signing in at all in most cases. It didn't used to be like that. Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 19:27 on Jul 22, 2020 |
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Gorn Myson posted:Theres got to be an established way to describe liberals who are completely down for wars and war crimes but if you call them out on it they'll just straight up say you're a supporter of the regime they're targeting and all of their crimes. Because thats what Oz does, every day of his empty life.
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what makes it all worse is knowing we got beaten by the rosie duffields, laura Ks, james bollocks and sam matthews. like are they that good or are we that bad.
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That's a slightly odd take given that as leftists we presumably understand that the individual players don't matter, it is a conflict of systems created in response to other systems. The leading lights of the right are fools, but it doesn't matter because they are fools on the end of a long and heavy stick made of the structure of capitalism. Doesn't matter what's on the end, if someone hits you with the stick it will still hurt.
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gh0stpinballa posted:what makes it all worse is knowing we got beaten by the rosie duffields, laura Ks, james bollocks and sam matthews. like are they that good or are we that bad. Yeah I genuinely feel humiliated. Like, existentially so. December shook me to the absolute core.
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We are a country run by geniuses (or it is genii?) https://twitter.com/business/status/1285988482096168960?s=20
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US already asks on their visa forms if "Do you seek to engage in or have you ever engaged in terrorist activities, espionage, sabotage, or genocide?
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Rincewinds posted:US already asks on their visa forms if "Do you seek to engage in or have you ever engaged in terrorist activities, espionage, sabotage, or genocide? IIRC, that's a weird legal thingy to make it faster and easier to kick people out when they turn out to have been lying.
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Also whether you were a member of the government or staff of Germany between 1933-1945. I thought it was a visa, not an engineering application.
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Gorn Myson posted:Hes a shithouse. I'm curious if theres any good articles about him, because hes a recurring name on UK twitter discourse that relentlessly parrots liberal talking points, but he also adds the extra spice of calling people Assadists because they don't want to nuke Syria or whatever. a few of us have said for some time that he is likely sponsored by some kind of turkish intelligence/PR outfit or gulf PR agency/ think tank. when you look at his career it makes no sense. claims to have gone to vice after being a dubstep producer for a time but nobody has any evidence he was part of the scene. he was actually a cub gossip reporter at the lebanon star, then moved to vice to write articles about taking viagra and asking girls if they'd gently caress ed sheeran. a year later he's suddenly an activist journo and some suspect he ghost wrote part of vices anonymous "syria issue" special. flits in and out of syria at a time when turkeys proxies had their largest territorial control, most of the "rebel groups" he raised cash for and sent aid to were affiliates of al qaeda and turk backed. there is loads more but its interesting how he had to beg the daily mail for a job around the time turkey made a pivot away from PR funding and the white helmets guy "committed suicide". my hunch is he was sponsored by someone tk be like the young hip face of regime change the way molly crabapple was in the states, but he turned out to be too dumb and loud whereas she is clever and at least has some kind of talent. idk, its fun to speculate about. bloodworth is another one i see a lot of people call MI5.
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Well, looking at the headlines and the online reaction, Starmer's sure drawn a line under that whole anti-semitism business and the party is now unified once more!
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Barry Foster posted:Yeah I genuinely feel humiliated. Like, existentially so. December shook me to the absolute core. I really, strongly want to stress that you shouldn't. It wasn't your fault, nor was it a fault of your ideas or your understanding of politics or anything else. It was entirely out of your hands. Our enemies are not clever, not individually, any more than say, to be topical, coronavirus is clever. They are simply facets and products of an evolutionary process which produces things which maximise profit to the wealthy in the immediate moment. If that process requires fools in charge, it will put them in charge, if it requires fools in the press, it will put them there. The invisible hand of the market is real but it doesn't create a good society like it's advertised as doing, it just destroys things. Change, if it happens, happens when it can't not happen, and we still aren't there yet. We won't be until enough of society can not abide the status quo, and that's very generationally weighted at the moment. And sadly all of the cathartic methods of proactive demographic adjustment are illegal. So we might be waiting for them to die of natural causes. More's the pity. I wonder if there's some sort of version of the weird yudkowski nerds except we're going to build the robot afterlife specifically to put boomers in it.
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Yeah logically I know all that. I guess part of it is that the rest of the world doesn't. It hurts to be the butt of a society wide joke, even if I shouldn't give a poo poo
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As we all know, no one who is left wing would ever break the immutable word of The Law.
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:We are a country run by geniuses (or it is genii?) Wasn't that a joke in a Blackadder Goes Forth episode?
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:We are a country run by geniuses (or it is genii?) edit: the US have something and it's aimed more at lobbyists not spies https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_Agents_Registration_Act Pablo Bluth fucked around with this message at 20:10 on Jul 22, 2020 |
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Looks like those disgusting gits are going to sue Corbyn: seems like a good result if you like corbyn and you want him to have his day in court. plus starmer is distanced even further from corbyn. it's win-win
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This is good. https://twitter.com/DoubleDownNews/status/1285933459823788037?s=20
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Looks like those disgusting gits are going to sue Corbyn: Targeting him specifically seems like a... Batshit thing to do.
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blunt posted:I just read an amazon review of the book and  Had no idea it was based on an actual book. Jesus Christ that sounds loving wretched and you can feel the furious masturbation of the author.
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Wasn't the whole point of paying them off to avoid having the truth aired in court? Suing Corbyn is going to completely undo that.
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The first episode of the latest season of the Good Fight have the main character wake up in a world where Hillary is president. It's interesting for various reasons but one of the main takeaways they run with was "If Hillary was President, the MeToo movement would not have been galvanized and as successful, because if a Women got elected then Sexisim is over."
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