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Porfiriato
Jan 4, 2016


I was under the impression that burn barrels are actually a pretty crappy way to destroy documents compared to good-quality shredders (might not burn everything, unburned pieces might waft away on updrafts, etc)....unless you need to get rid of a lot of stuff in a hurry, for some reason.

Edit: there's rumors they're being "evicted" in a few days but no idea how or why, since I would assume that would be quite a diplomatic incident if true.

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Fur20
Nov 14, 2007

すご▞い!
君は働か░い
フ▙▓ズなんだね!
iirc bleach + water slurry is preferred when possible, that'll dissolve everything

burn barrels what is this the loving roman empire!

Kharnifex
Sep 11, 2001

The Banter is better in AusGBS
Once China owns all the large game making companies, I wonder if the games will all be as bad as the millions of YouTube ads I get for lovely mobile games with Chinese people at a restaurant speaking in dubbed English about said lovely mobile game.


https://t.me/guardiansofhongkong/23698

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Porfiriato posted:

Edit: there's rumors they're being "evicted" in a few days but no idea how or why, since I would assume that would be quite a diplomatic incident if true.

If true it would likely be related to the indictment of those two Chinese nationals for like a full decade's worth of espionage including targeting Covid-19 researchers

peanut
Sep 9, 2007


falun gong sux

sticksy
May 26, 2004
Nap Ghost

Squalid posted:

https://www.businessinsider.com/china-warns-uk-it-will-bear-consequences-of-defying-beijing-2020-7

China's ambassador has warned, adding that Boris Johnson's government had "contravened international law and the basic norms governing international relations."

Ah yes, totally consistent, just like what they've done with the nine dash line and international maritime law in the South China Sea.

Squalid
Nov 4, 2008

Stuntman posted:

defending cults to justify my weird obsession with hating chinese people for the epic win :D

its kinda weird to see this directed at me since if you actually look at my post history itt i come across as quite the simp for mainland china.

i don't really recognize you but presumably you are just another random idiot here to troll a thread they haven't read for god knows what reason.

Rinkles
Oct 24, 2010

What I'm getting at is...
Do you feel the same way?
it's their go to bait

Shrimp or Shrimps
Feb 14, 2012



HK boomers are like some of the worst boomers on the planet

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008

quote:

The United States ordered China to close its diplomatic consulate in Houston, the Chinese foreign ministry said on Wednesday, dealing another blow to the rapidly deteriorating relations between the two countries.

In the hours after the Trump administration notified the Chinese of its decision, smoke was seen billowing from a courtyard inside the consulate as employees dumped what appeared to be documents into flaming barrels, according to a video posted by KPRC-TV, a local television station.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/22/world/asia/us-china-houston-consulate.html

Shumagorath
Jun 6, 2001
Global Times running a poll on which American consulate in PRC to close in retaliation.

Everyone write-in Lowtax.

Fumble
Sep 4, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 12 days!

Shumagorath posted:

Global Times running a poll on which American consulate in PRC to close in retaliation.

Everyone write-in Cspam.

Cnidario
Mar 22, 2013

How much face do you think Supreme Daddy Xi is losing right now

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
So the US consulate that China has decided to make close is in .... Wuhan.

Mr. Smile Face Hat
Sep 15, 2003

Praise be to China's Covid-Zero Policy

I would blow Dane Cook posted:

So the US consulate that China has decided to make close is in .... Wuhan.

They got us all in check.

sticksy
May 26, 2004
Nap Ghost

I would blow Dane Cook posted:

So the US consulate that China has decided to make close is in .... Wuhan.

Well at least, they had already accomplished their mission by distributing plague-ridden bats to the local wet market.

Aren't consulates and "diplomats" mostly thinly-veiled cover for government spies anyway?

Also, :rip: vilerat

Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug

sticksy posted:

Well at least, they had already accomplished their mission by distributing plague-ridden bats to the local wet market.

Aren't consulates and "diplomats" mostly thinly-veiled cover for government spies anyway?


Wuhan crew is apparently something to gently caress with.

And they usually (almost always) have some spies with official cover there but I wouldn’t say mostly. Someone with diplomatic status will typically just be ejected from the country, someone with nonofficial cover can be imprisoned/executed.

E:This is why I’ll never go back to China, the OPM hack had them get my SF86 from when I applied to the state department after college, and I recently worked for a construction company that’s been used as non official cover for espionage in the past, so I’m not even chancing some kind of insane overreaction to my work history.

Ugly In The Morning fucked around with this message at 15:35 on Jul 22, 2020

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


Yeah, consulates have intelligence people but mostly it's just bureaucrats handling passports and visas.

Wuhan means all the consulates are coastal except Chengdu now, so that's a pain in the rear end.

D-Pad
Jun 28, 2006

I've got a friend who won't shut up about how the three gorges dam is going to collapse at any moment. I can't find any non-questionable news sources about this, but at the same time it is China.

Is there actually a chance this happens?

vanity slug
Jul 20, 2010

the three gorges dam will collapse at the same time as the ccp

url
Apr 23, 2007

internet gnuru
Houston we have a problem

Just wanted to get that out here, I haven't read up, apols if I'm the 100th version of it

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


I mean, there's always a chance. But there's no particular reason to think it's moments from collapse right now. There's no source for that which isn't weird, but if it were happening we wouldn't know because there's no media in China that could report on it. I don't know where the rumor started but I'm going to guess inside someone's rear end in a top hat.

The Great Autismo!
Mar 3, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

D-Pad posted:

I've got a friend who won't shut up about how the three gorges dam is going to collapse at any moment. I can't find any non-questionable news sources about this, but at the same time it is China.

Is there actually a chance this happens?

actually, do you know USA sucks? makes you think

sorry just using this space practicing for CSPAM

GlassEye-Boy
Jul 12, 2001

D-Pad posted:

I've got a friend who won't shut up about how the three gorges dam is going to collapse at any moment. I can't find any non-questionable news sources about this, but at the same time it is China.

Is there actually a chance this happens?

All stories are single sourced from a falun gong nut job, so take them with a huge grain of salt.

The Great Autismo!
Mar 3, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

stephenthinkpad posted:

And we all know Trump polling number has been pretty bad recently. If the Trump number is still terrible come Sep/Oct I wouldn't be surprise if Trump throw a hail mary. What is a hail mary you ask? I wouldn't be surprised if Trump bomb the military structures on the SCS man made islands. Something like this place. I can't follow all these different reefs in SCS but if US want to do something militarily, I would put money on one of the rocks inside Philippine's claim.

someone make this my avatar

Mozi
Apr 4, 2004

Forms change so fast
Time is moving past
Memory is smoke
Gonna get wider when I die
Nap Ghost
i'm sure the dam is hosed up somehow given what a bad idea it was in the first place but i doubt anybody not actually working on the thing knows for sure; certainly anybody who talks with confidence about when it will fall down doesn't know what they're talking about

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


Mozi posted:

i'm sure the dam is hosed up somehow given what a bad idea it was in the first place but i doubt anybody not actually working on the thing knows for sure; certainly anybody who talks with confidence about when it will fall down doesn't know what they're talking about

Yeah basically. It probably wasn't constructed well, but you can say that about literally anything in China.

exmachina
Mar 12, 2006

Look Closer
I mean there are things like "all the engineers families have suddenly decided to live with in-laws out of town"

kaesarsosei
Nov 7, 2012
If they thought the dam was going to collapse, could they not start letting the water out even if it meant widespread but gradual flooding downstream?

Came into the thread because I stumbled upon this rumour, and it basically sounds like the worst thing in the history of civilisation if this were to happen.

Warbadger
Jun 17, 2006

kaesarsosei posted:

If they thought the dam was going to collapse, could they not start letting the water out even if it meant widespread but gradual flooding downstream?

Came into the thread because I stumbled upon this rumour, and it basically sounds like the worst thing in the history of civilisation if this were to happen.

They have been letting water out as the water level is very, very high. The question is whether they can let enough water out fast enough.

There has seemingly also been some deformation of one of the dams, but it remains to be seen how bad it actually is.

Warbadger fucked around with this message at 18:29 on Jul 22, 2020

SerCypher
May 10, 2006

Gay baby jail...? What the hell?

I really don't like the sound of that...
Fun Shoe

kaesarsosei posted:

If they thought the dam was going to collapse, could they not start letting the water out even if it meant widespread but gradual flooding downstream?

Came into the thread because I stumbled upon this rumour, and it basically sounds like the worst thing in the history of civilisation if this were to happen.

Warning: Not a professional damnologist engineer scientist expert

You can see what happened to the California Oroville Dam.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oroville_Dam_crisis


Basically Dams have normal ways to let water through (to generate power in this case) and also other gates and openings.

Then they also have 'Oh poo poo' options like emergency spillways and other things to just dump water over the side.

However a few things can happen
1) The 'Oh poo poo' options are infrequently used and don't always work right
2) The pressure of water flowing through the drat can be so high that it starts to erode and tear pieces of the drat off or gently caress up the surrounding soil

1 and 2 are basically what happened in Oroville.

3) The water flow is so great that even with all the extra stuff open the water either cracks the drat or starts flowing over it and tearing it apart.

Squalid
Nov 4, 2008

Warbadger posted:

They have been letting water out as the water level is very, very high. The question is whether they can let enough water out fast enough.

There has seemingly also been some deformation of one of the dams, but it remains to be seen how bad it actually is.

what's the source on the deformation thing? i haven't seen anything about that but it sounds alarming.

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar
I saw an article saying the dam was 15 metres from overflowing. To be honest, given the size of the dam, that seems pretty safe to me.

Warbadger
Jun 17, 2006

Squalid posted:

what's the source on the deformation thing? i haven't seen anything about that but it sounds alarming.

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/3017927/no-problem-all-chinas-three-gorges-dam-warping-rumours-denied

It's not necessary worrying. Dams do get deformed a bit over time.

The junk collector
Aug 10, 2005
Hey do you want that motherboard?
The Dam started exhibiting surface cracking almost immediately after it was built but concerns were dismissed that it was expected and planned for in the design. Those cracks have gotten visibly worse over time but again, same dismissal.

Will the Dam fail? Probably one day. Is it a fools errand to predict when? Also probably. The thing is, without thorough survey of the drat by a team of independent engineers, it's not really possible to say one way or the other what state it's in and it's such a huge status project for the CCP, the results of any such survey would almost certainly be kept entirely within the party. I personally think rumors have gotten started up again recently because of all the rain that China has been getting hit by lately and it is just making people nervous.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


Reminds me of when the Lotte World Tower was under construction in Seoul, the foundation started visibly cracking and the builders said "oh those are decorative cracks meant to evoke 60's Seoul, don't worry about it". :yikes:

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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This apartment is excellent, especially the decorative mold and atmospheric cockroaches for that authentic gilded age feel

Devils Affricate
Jan 22, 2010
Probably worth mentioning that there was some sensationalist bullshit a couple months ago about how the dam was showing "severe warping" in Google's satellite images. Example:



I checked it out on Google Maps myself at the time and sure enough, that's the imagery that Google had. It was pretty obviously just a bad set of photos (probably warped by vibrations on the camera), not an actual case of a large dam going full Tim Burton. If you look at the dam on Gmaps now, it's completely straight.

That's not to say the dam is currently safe. All experts whose opinions aren't obviously compromised by the CCP seem to agree that it's at huge risk of failure.

TTerrible
Jul 15, 2005
Without knowing a single thing about the dams engineering beyond "CCP Vanity Project" and "largest dam in the world" I wouldn't want to be within 20 miles of it.

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Fumble
Sep 4, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 12 days!

Devils Affricate posted:

Probably worth mentioning that there was some sensationalist bullshit a couple months ago about how the dam was showing "severe warping" in Google's satellite images. Example:



I checked it out on Google Maps myself at the time and sure enough, that's the imagery that Google had. It was pretty obviously just a bad set of photos (probably warped by vibrations on the camera), not an actual case of a large dam going full Tim Burton. If you look at the dam on Gmaps now, it's completely straight.

That's not to say the dam is currently safe. All experts whose opinions aren't obviously compromised by the CCP seem to agree that it's at huge risk of failure.

Like, do people think things compress like that?

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