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Ghost Leviathan posted:No no, wait Always two, there are.
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2house2fly posted:It always bugged me that all the characters have one syllable names. Rey, Finn, Poe, Rose, Snoke, even Kylo Ren's real name is Ben. It feels like a marketing directive to make the names all punchy and memorable or something Possibly to make names easier to say across different languages?
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2house2fly posted:It always bugged me that all the characters have one syllable names. Rey, Finn, Poe, Rose, Snoke, even Kylo Ren's real name is Ben. It feels like a marketing directive to make the names all punchy and memorable or something You've also got Hux, Maz, Snap, Paige, and Lor for minor characters.
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In general, the naming scheme probably isn't a problem. With Star Wars it's either few-syllable nonsense or painfully on the nose.
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Horizon Burning posted:It's like some weird memetic understanding of Star Wars characters only have monosyllabic names. Luke, Han, Leia. But then Luke Skywalker, Han Solo, Leia Organa. Tarkin, Vader, Ackbar, Lando, Jabba, Palpatine, Padme, Amidala... Leia is two syllables. How the gently caress are you pronouncing it
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Horizon Burning posted:It's like some weird memetic understanding of Star Wars characters only have monosyllabic names. Luke, Han, Leia. But then Luke Skywalker, Han Solo, Leia Organa. Tarkin, Vader, Ackbar, Lando, Jabba, Palpatine, Padme, Amidala... Let's be fair, if we're including last names, then we need to take Poe and Rose's names off that original list. But largely this seems like a nitpicky nonissue. And I've always thought it was a little silly that in a galaxy of silly sci-fi names, our main character had a biblical name. But really...who cares?
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It could have been worse - he was named Justin Valor in an early draft.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:No no, wait (Nobody tell them about Commander Pyre)
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Cartoon Man posted:Let’s jump to another future trilogy and the head bad guy says to his apprentice, “Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Palpatine the <what goes here?>” It'll be the decomposing essence of Plagueis connected to a kabbalah tree, who will then fuse with his apprentice in some spiel like "There has only been one Sith Lord soul the whole time that's moved to separate bodies for hundreds of thousands of years-" etc.
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Cartoon Man posted:Let’s jump to another future trilogy and the head bad guy says to his apprentice, “Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Palpatine the <what goes here?>” Darth Sidious the Horny
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I gave into some clickbait article that made me irrationally angry, in which it alleges Kathleen Kennedy is out (yay) but is being replaced by JJ Abrams / Bad Robot (noooo) and they are bringing George Lucas back as creative lead (what?) edit: to be clear I'm aware this is ludicrous Glottis fucked around with this message at 23:38 on Jul 22, 2020 |
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Glottis posted:I gave into some clickbait article that made me irrationally angry, in which it alleges Kathleen Kennedy is out (yay) but is being replaced by JJ Abrams / Bad Robot (noooo) and they are bringing George Lucas back as creative lead (what?) Yeah, there's, like, no way any of that is true. There's no reason to believe Kennedy would be in any actual trouble, and even if you think she is, Abrams would be right there with her. That's dumb.
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People who hate KK are insane and I’m suspect of them as humans
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Seems pretty impossible for JJ to take over Lucasfilm since he's working with Warner Bros. now, with them really hoping he'll do Superman among the other many things the next five years with him will net them. Kennedy will probably be fine until she decides she doesn't want the job anymore or something actually spicy like she eats children, flesh right off the bone, and here's the LiveLeak video of it, gets exposed. She can't be blamed for the demystification of Star Wars as a property done in just over half a decade, it was Disney who wanted a movie every godforsaken year and demanding that assembly line get put into motion. More than half her bets have paid off in terms of ROI - Force Awakens hit, Last Jedi hit, Rogue One hit, The Mandalorian definitely attracted people to Disney+. She's doing about the best she can do, even if she has made some real dumb moves, particularly in regards to firing people at the absolute worst times to be firing people if you want a good product to come out of it.
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The source for every single one of those articles is always that youtube weirdo in the knockoff Dr Doom costume
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OctoberCountry posted:that youtube weirdo in the knockoff Dr Doom costume You're going to have to be more specific
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There really isn’t that many dr doom chuds running around
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drat  ruining my dumb fantasy by ?????. Definitely her fault and not JJ or any other man though.
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Donglover getting his own D+ Lando Show. Allegedyly. Not a rumor from a Dr Doom Knockoff.
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The Cameo posted:Seems pretty impossible for JJ to take over Lucasfilm since he's working with Warner Bros. now, with them really hoping he'll do Superman among the other many things the next five years with him will net them. Wait, really? Didn't he already write a Superman script for them way back in the day they rejected?
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thrawn527 posted:Wait, really? Didn't he already write a Superman script for them way back in the day they rejected? Oh no, they wanted to make it, but Drew McWeeny (back when he was Moriarty) flambe'd the loving thing on Ain't It Cool News in the brief period where what they said actually meant anything. McG was going to direct, then he got told he was going to have to go to Australia to shoot it since Village Roadshow was tossing in money alongside Legendary to co-finance it (VR being an Aussie company, and also WB having built a massive soundstage down there). Turns out McG is afraid of planes. (man wants to make a movie about A MAN WHO CAN FLY but said maker is afraid of GETTING ON AN AIRPLANE, what in the gently caress sort of mental block is that, but also, that explains We Are Marshall so, so much.) So he quite literally, after already starting some very early pre-production, is like "nope I'm done, but send my $10 million in the mail since this was a pay or play deal". Not very long after that the Moriarty "script review" goes up and it's full of poo poo like Lex Luthor's actually another Kryptonian and whatnot and all those things and - whew - is it a badly written script overall (it's out there, Superman: Flyby, it's... JJ Abrams is just not particularly gifted with words, is the polite way to put it, I believe he's the guy who likes to throw gently caress and HOLY poo poo into the scene descriptions/action blocks of a screenplay to denote ~EXCITEMENT~!  ).So now the script comes off as bad to everyone in the industry since everyone was reading AICN from like 1998-2002 like it was goddamned Variety, and WB kiboshes this project, which is the second large attempt in a row after the Burton/Peters/Smith/GIANT SPIDER Death and Return of Superman swing. Bits and pieces of Flyby ended up in other movies - Superman listening to the cries of people from space was in the Flyby script, although I believe he's sitting on top of a mountain in Flyby. I think a little bit managed to make it into Man of Steel as well. So no, they never really rejected it, or him. It was everyone else rejecting it plus poo poo going awry elsewhere on the ladder. It was also like twenty+ years ago now, soooooo it's water under the bridge. Mind you, JJ's worked with Warner TV forever, from Fringe on every TV show he's made has been with them, up to today. All those Apple TV+ shows he announced? All through WBTV. He's also got like two new HBO series (one premieres next month!) on top of Westworld, and JL Dark for HBO Max coming up. So this was just him closing the circle on a relationship that's been strong for a decade and a half now, and finally closing the door on his long time with Paramount as his film home. It's also the most natural spot for him, he's a giant fan of Stephen King (how you can voraciously read his stuff the way JJ did and not be a better writer is beyond me - because I voraciously read Stephen King and it's a very, very clear influence on how I write, as you can tell since this is my tenth parenthetical that's also running on, a tendency you might find in a certain other Mainer's books), and Warner Bros. at this point is essentially the home for all that. Also, to close the chapter on McWeeny and Abrams: McWeeny was at the premiere for Star Trek with his at the time like five year old son Toshihiro, and JJ was making the rounds with the press and he came across Drew, standing there with his kid. Now, JJ knew what Drew looked like, he knew he was Moriarty, and he knew exactly what had killed Flyby. So Drew's figuring, okay, this guy's gonna punch me in the face. I might deserve it. Hell, I wrote a review that killed his entire movie, the way people tell it, I suppose I do deserve it. But instead, JJ is very cordial, very nice, laughs off the mention of the review, and then his eye catches Toshi being that five year old sort of jittery, slightly unbalanced, making a parent wonder if he has to go pee and just doesn't want to say so in front of people. JJ kneels down, and he strikes up a conversation with Toshi, and then, just as he's ready to go, JJ stops and waves someone from a fair distance away to come over. He turns to Toshi, tells him: "hey, so I want you to have this." as one of JJ's assistant weaves around gaggles of people holding a massive replica of the '09 design of the Enterprise. He stands back up, shakes Drew's hand as Drew is gobsmacked at this, and JJ moves on as one has to do at a premiere. JJ Abrams. Good guy, legendary TV producer, okay to decent director, awful writer. Plums defy! Jerkface posted:Donglover getting his own D+ Lando Show. Allegedyly. Not a rumor from a Dr Doom Knockoff. Most sensible thing to pull out of that trainwreck and resuscitate. Did anyone dislike his Lando?
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Jerkface posted:Donglover getting his own D+ Lando Show. Allegedyly. Not a rumor from a Dr Doom Knockoff. Not that I disagree with the decision but I'm surprised they were able to assign a letter grade to the series before it started filming.
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McG makes bad movies but don’t poo poo on him for his fear of flying. That’s mean
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Not making fun of it, but seriously, who decides they really wanna make a movie about a guy who flies while they themselves hate the experience of being in the air. It seems counter intuitive. Wish I could get $10 million because I quit a job over having a phobia, though.
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Please for the love of god keep Abrams away from Superman. Isn't the smoldering wreckage of both the Star Trek AND the Star Wars franchises big enough red flags?
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Abrams is fine as long as he isn't penning the script.
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Star Wars isn’t in shambles and he didn’t make the last mediocre Star Trek movie tho he may have produced it Iirc the Star Trek actors didn’t want to do anymore ? I don’t even like his directing style I mean but let’s have some accuracy in this thread about Star Wars !
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I think the only that was keeping a new Star Trek movie from happening was them not wanting to pay Pine and Hemsworth enough money. They seemingly have moved on with Discovery and the upcoming Pike spinoff show. I watched Into Darkness for the first time since the theater a couple weeks ago. I forgot how early the murked Pike.
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Detective No. 27 posted:I think the only that was keeping a new Star Trek movie from happening was them not wanting to pay Pine and Hemsworth enough money. They seemingly have moved on with Discovery and the upcoming Pike spinoff show. I watched Into Darkness for the first time since the theater a couple weeks ago. I forgot how early the murked Pike. Anton Yelchin's death would have also made it a bit awkward going on without him. e: but yeah, the new set of films were clearly out of ideas. The thing about the original set of Trek films is that they all run the same story of 'old men trying to come to terms with being old' and they just kept recycling that theme until they really did decide to retire the characters, but while I think 2009 Trek is a great film, there's no particular reason to make any more films after it. Alchenar fucked around with this message at 00:10 on Jul 23, 2020 |
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Abrams's style is very energetic and friendly, like a big dog. I can see him making the kind of Superman movie people complained about Zack Snyder not making
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Alchenar posted:Anton Yelchin's death would have also made it a bit awkward going on without him. That too. What a drat shame.
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I can’t even imagine a super man movie in this political climate I mean would it be set at some different time like a fairy tale or something
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A Golden Age Superman movie set in 1938 would be really cool. They'd probably gut out all his socialism though.
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i was just going to muse about them making a Red Son film adaptation, but apparently they released an animated version this year with Jason Isaacs as Superman.
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The only "super" men I care about are the following down to earth cinematic protagonists -george bailey -bob woodward -kramer and kramer -serpico -the bicycle thief -walter white -orson welles -marty mcfly -jesus christ (jesus christ superstar) -king kong -nanook of the north -batman -kevin costner in "draft day" Everything else I see is just like, a silly ridiculous cartoon to me. These are the only movies I can take seriously, I wish there was more in ALL of these respective franchises.
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