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The Orson Welles cinematic universe, where all of Orson Welles' most famous characters are recruited for a secret mission by... Orson Welles. The Orson Welles from Othello can be played by Scarlet Johansson.
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The Cameo posted:Not making fun of it, but seriously, who decides they really wanna make a movie about a guy who flies while they themselves hate the experience of being in the air. It seems counter intuitive. Well this is just silly. There’s more to Superman than flying, and you don’t only get to make movies about things you’re not afraid of. It’s not even the same kind of flying. McCloud posted:Please for the love of god keep Abrams away from Superman. Isn't the smoldering wreckage of both the Star Trek AND the Star Wars franchises big enough red flags? This is also just silly. Neither franchise is anywhere close to a “smoldering wreckage”.
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Jul 23, 2020 01:03
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Jul 23, 2020 01:16
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MoaM posted:The Trek reboots are good. Into Darkness gets a little silly with how much import they give the name Khan, since no one in that timeline will have ever actually heard of him. And that one shot of Alice Eve is pretty unforgivable. But yeah, I really like them. Especially ‘09. thrawn527 fucked around with this message at 04:44 on Jul 23, 2020 |
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Jul 23, 2020 01:28
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Star Trek 2 is a perfectly adequate movie that drew ire because it’s a Transformers movie with a Star Trek branding. Also, nobody bitched about MIIII or Super 8 or whatever. Star Wars fans just operate under a sort of theory where everything they find even mildly aversive is directly attributable to a single dude’s and/or lady’s personal failings. That being said, Abrams is a terrible choice for a Superman movie. SuperMechagodzilla fucked around with this message at 04:15 on Jul 23, 2020 |
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Jul 23, 2020 01:37
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Detective No. 27 posted:A Golden Age Superman movie set in 1938 would be really cool. Adapt the radio series where he takes on the KKK. That'd actually do well in the post-Trump world.
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Jul 23, 2020 01:57
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Come to think of it, it's kind of surprising Abrams never did anything for Marvel. Then again he's been busy with various Star X movies, maybe it'll happen yet
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Jul 23, 2020 02:51
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His son writes spider man comics
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Jul 23, 2020 08:14
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thrawn527 posted:Well this is just silly. There’s more to Superman than flying, and you don’t only get to make movies about things you’re not afraid of. It’s not even the same kind of flying. Also the actor doesn't actually fly you use CGI for that
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Jul 23, 2020 08:34
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Alchenar posted:Also the actor doesn't actually fly you use CGI for that unless it's Christopher Lee, he could really do all that stuff
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Jul 23, 2020 08:49
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Becoming an Abrams superfan to own Man of Steel.
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Jul 23, 2020 09:50
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Bleck posted:unless it's Christopher Lee, he could really do all that stuff Yeah, but he had to turn into a bat first
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Jul 23, 2020 12:59
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Glottis posted:I gave into some clickbait article that made me irrationally angry, in which it alleges Kathleen Kennedy is out (yay) but is being replaced by JJ Abrams / Bad Robot (noooo) and they are bringing George Lucas back as creative lead (what?) Oh hey, I read that clickbait too! (Link for anyone else who wants to hurt themselves) I think you may have misread it, though - in their deranged fantasy, KK is leaving for Bad Robot with Lucas taking over Lucasfilm, in return for the following demands: quote:Condition #1: I get to make my Sequel Trilogy. It's pretty hilarious levels of "not happening" imo
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Jul 23, 2020 17:11
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quote:The information again comes from the "future ruler of Earth," Doomcock, from the Overlord DVD YouTube channel, who has recently provided rumors about Disney resetting Star Wars, and more.
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Jul 23, 2020 18:03
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I'm hearing that Kathleen Kennedy and Rian Johnson have both been publicly beheaded and their remains fed to my childhood dog, who is now alive again.
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Jul 23, 2020 19:00
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My sources say the death penalty, for Badfilm, being considered for Kathleen Kennedy. I am pro-life and take no pleasure in reporting this.
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Jul 23, 2020 21:00
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Alchenar posted:Also the actor doesn't actually fly you use CGI for that Not to put too fine of a point on it, but if you're making a movie about a man that can fly, you potentially may need to get in a helicopter at some point, if just to get to a location. Especially when Warner's obvious idea was to use the Australian countryside as Especially when you have a scene that's supposed to be Superman sitting on the peak of a tall mountain, listening to the world's troubles. Good luck convincing a movie studio to let you spend much more time to go up the mountain the long way.
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Jul 23, 2020 21:04
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The Cameo posted:Not to put too fine of a point on it, but if you're making a movie about a man that can fly, you potentially may need to get in a helicopter at some point, if just to get to a location. Especially when Warner's obvious idea was to use the Australian countryside as That's true of literally any film you might want to shoot on location.
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Jul 23, 2020 21:52
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The Cameo posted:Especially when you have a scene that's supposed to be Superman sitting on the peak of a tall mountain, listening to the world's troubles. Good luck convincing a movie studio to let you spend much more time to go up the mountain the long way. Or you could do what they did when this scene was in Batman v Superman, and film it on a soundstage in front of a greenscreen. And McG doesn't even have a fear of flying - he has agoraphobia and used the fear of flying excuse because "It was easier to say it was a fear of flying because, while it might make me look weak, people can understand it and I don't have to say, 'Well, I'm kind of crazy'."
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Jul 23, 2020 22:10
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Unsurprisingly, all the upcoming “Untitled Star Wars” movies are pushed back, along with Avatar and others. https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/23/disney-delays-mulan-indefinitely-star-wars-and-avatar-movies-pushed-back-a-year.html
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Jul 24, 2020 00:32
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quote:Doomcock's latest update in regards to the "civil war" taking place at LucasFilm includes that numerous sources have filled in that his information is true.
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Jul 24, 2020 00:43
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Jul 24, 2020 00:58
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People who buy into Overlord DVD's ("Doomcock") channel are just sad. I didn't like the sequel trilogy but even I know that Disney isn't going to suddenly throw it out. Not when they just spent billions of dollars on two sequel-themed Star Wars theme parks.
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Jul 24, 2020 01:01
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Jewmanji posted:This is gibberish. You think there was a clause in the acquisition agreement that Disney can’t say the word “Coruscant” without paying George Lucas royalties? Somehow they can’t invoke Coruscant but they can utilize the rest of the IP to their hearts content? You have no idea what you’re talking about. I swear to god that I read somewhere that any time they show a planet / setting from one of the prequels or OT, they have to pay Lucas money. That's why Jakku is the stand-in for Tatooine, Hosnian Prime for Coruscant, generic Resistance Earth planet for Naboo, etc.
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Jul 24, 2020 03:06
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Alchenar posted:TFA makes no sense on the background. If the Republic is in control of the galaxy then why is it funding a resistance group to fight the First Order? Because this happens all the time right now on Earth in real life? quote:What's the balance of power here? Can the FO just walk over the Republic with their massive space fleet? TLJ implies that pretty strongly. Then why are they bothering with Starkiller base? Why bother developing the atom bomb when the US could have just invaded the home islands and won the war the old fashioned way? quote:Likewise in RoS there is I'm not defending that piece of trash. I'm just saying that TFA wasn't the worst thing in the world because of the lack of thesis on the political situation. quote:In each of the original films you can sum up what's going on in the background of our hero's story in a sentence: "the Empire needs the Death Star to prevent widespread rebellion breaking out", "The Rebels need to escape the Imperial attack and regroup", "The Imperial Fleet is dispersed across the galaxy in a vain attempt to engage us and the time for our attack is now...". In the prequels it's a lot more messy and actually less in the background because you see Palpatine doing his plot on-screen rather than off-screen but it's there. At no point in the Sequel Trilogy is it remotely clear at any point what any particular group is actually trying to achieve and what's holding them back from achieving it. I think in TFA it worked because the whole point was that the Republic was busy governing and dealing with itself and literally had no idea what the First Order had or didn't have. The audience is in the same boat. But all of a sudden, they show up with a death star planet and destroy the entire government and majority of the military, so the Republic died without even realizing it was under threat. So the story follows the black ops organization that must now survive after the annihilation of its main proprietor. You pick up on enough to make the connections needed. The only difference is that there's no official Lucasfilm explanation, which is fine by me since it works for films that aren't Star Wars.
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Jul 24, 2020 03:19
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Grandpa Palpatine posted:I swear to god that I read somewhere that any time they show a planet / setting from one of the prequels or OT, they have to pay Lucas money. That's why Jakku is the stand-in for Tatooine, Hosnian Prime for Coruscant, generic Resistance Earth planet for Naboo, etc. You probably read it here, or on some equally dubious source. It was some nonsense rumor someone made up that never had any source or backing, and has never made a lick of sense. This isn’t how copyrights or contracts work.
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Jul 24, 2020 03:23
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Payndz posted:IIRC, it was a couple of extra Wampa shots, swapping McDiarmid for the old monkey-eyes Emperor (with altered dialogue that was more clunky and less subtle), Fett's voice, some new Cloud City VFX and windows, "EEEEEEAAAaaaaarghhhhh!" as Luke falls down the shaft, and changing Vader's pissed-off "Bring my shuttle" for the entirely unnecessary "Alert my star destroyer to prepare for my arrival" [Vader's flight is catalogued in tedious detail]. In all, the film got off pretty lightly. It actually is referring to the Special Edition, so the one with a few extra shots, but no Jango Fett voice (since even TPM wasn't out yet in 1997).
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OctoberCountry posted:The source for every single one of those articles is always that youtube weirdo in the knockoff Dr Doom costume god I loving hate that guy
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Jul 24, 2020 03:35
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Alchenar posted:Anton Yelchin's death would have also made it a bit awkward going on without him. Beyond was really good though. I give all the credit to Simon Pegg having a bigger role in the story process. It felt like an extended OG Trek episode updated with bigger action pieces to placate modern audiences. punishedkissinger posted:i was just going to muse about them making a Red Son film adaptation, but apparently they released an animated version this year with Jason Isaacs as Superman. WHAT
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Jul 24, 2020 03:38
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thrawn527 posted:You probably read it here, or on some equally dubious source. It was some nonsense rumor someone made up that never had any source or backing, and has never made a lick of sense. This isn’t how copyrights or contracts work. The funny thing is it still makes more sense than why they made the movies the way they are
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Jul 24, 2020 09:42
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I will not be led astray by Doomcock
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Jul 24, 2020 11:25
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They go to the infamous bar on Tatooine in the Mandolorian, did Lucas get a payday?
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Jul 24, 2020 11:52
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Grandpa Palpatine posted:I swear to god that I read somewhere that any time they show a planet / setting from one of the prequels or OT, they have to pay Lucas money. That's why Jakku is the stand-in for Tatooine, Hosnian Prime for Coruscant, generic Resistance Earth planet for Naboo, etc. 1. References. The Parties agree that in any instance where Purchaser utilizes, acknowledges, references, or in a way describes or depicts fictional planet settings from Seller’s films (for the avoidance of doubt A New Hope (1977), The Empire Strikes Back (1980), Return of the Jedi (1983), The Phantom Menace (1999), Attack of the Clones (2002), Revenge of the Sith (2005) hereinafter referred defined as “prequel and OT films”), Purchaser shall pay Seller in the amount of one billion dollars ($1,000,000,000 USD) in each instance. For clarity, the Parties agree that Purchaser may utilize, acknowledge, reference, or in any way depict other Intellectual Property originating from prequels and OT films without need to pay Seller, including but not limited to: Jedi Knights, the force, x-wings, tie-fighters, AT-ATs, Han Solo, Chewbacca, the millennium falcon, luke skywalker, Princess Leia, stormtroopers, Darth vader, representations of hyperspace, R2-D2, C-3PO, Lando Calrissian...”
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Like, movie sequels and adaptations doing weird workarounds for legal reasons is something we have context for, that we understand. That Spider-man didn't show up in the MCU until Disney made a deal with Sony for the movie rights, that can be argued as silly but it makes sense, there's reasons for it. And it'd make sense if they didn't and the MCU made Arachnoman join the Avengers instead, which would be silly and go over like a lead balloon but it would be for understandable reasons. Instead though this is like Disney having the movie rights for Spider-man, and the movie acknowledges Spider-man is out there, but instead Arachnoman joins the Avengers, and his real name is Peter Barker, and his Uncle Bem taught him that 'when you're really strong you gotta be really responsible' and none of this is at all played for laughs or joked about at all
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Jul 24, 2020 15:08
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Anyone else read that as anchorman both times?
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Jul 24, 2020 15:11
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I'd like to imagine it was a magic gotcha clause that George inserted in, where he signs over all the rights but if they say the right combination of words everything instantly reverts to him in a CGI lightshow.
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Jul 24, 2020 15:13
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Ingmar terdman posted:Anyone else read that as anchorman both times? Well poo poo, now I do.
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Jul 24, 2020 15:22
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Jewmanji posted:1. References. The Parties agree that in any instance where Purchaser utilizes, acknowledges, references, or in a way describes or depicts fictional planet settings from Seller’s films (for the avoidance of doubt A New Hope (1977), The Empire Strikes Back (1980), Return of the Jedi (1983), The Phantom Menace (1999), Attack of the Clones (2002), Revenge of the Sith (2005) hereinafter referred defined as “prequel and OT films”), Purchaser shall pay Seller in the amount of one billion dollars ($1,000,000,000 USD) in each instance. For clarity, the Parties agree that Purchaser may utilize, acknowledge, reference, or in any way depict other Intellectual Property originating from prequels and OT films without need to pay Seller, including but not limited to: Jedi Knights, the force, x-wings, tie-fighters, AT-ATs, Han Solo, Chewbacca, the millennium falcon, luke skywalker, Princess Leia, stormtroopers, Darth vader, representations of hyperspace, R2-D2, C-3PO, Lando Calrissian...” That would never be in a contract of sale
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The Little Death posted:I'd like to imagine it was a magic gotcha clause that George inserted in, where he signs over all the rights but if they say the right combination of words everything instantly reverts to him in a CGI lightshow. The plot to the next National Treasure
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euphronius posted:That would never be in a contract of sale I was making fun of Grandpa Palpatine for advancing a point that was basically self-refuting in its stupidity.
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