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Just got a message from a friend of a friend on Facebook. "Yo...so my mom is sending me all of my baseball cards from my childhood. Just found a bunch of MTG cards from circa 1993. Are there any potential cards that you would like? Was thinking of cataloguing to see what’s there but won’t bother if they’re outdated." 
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I would be excited for old art stasis done as a masterpiece/borderless/super secret rare parallel foil card. MTG art still hasn't beaten Stasis as best card art, after all these years
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Jul 22, 2020 22:27
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Chill la Chill posted:I would be excited for old art stasis done as a masterpiece/borderless/super secret rare parallel foil card. MTG art still hasn't beaten Stasis as best card art, after all these years "Look at me, I'm the DCI"
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Jul 22, 2020 22:31
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Owlbear Camus posted:Just got a message from a friend of a friend on Facebook. Tell him to send over any cats and pitch the rest?
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Jul 22, 2020 22:40
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I think my favorite old school artist is DiTerlizzi. Very cool, versatile style but also very clean and easy to parse what's going on in the scene. As far as modern artists Jason Chan and Igor Kieryluk come to mind as standouts, although that might be because they've both done their fair share of marquee cards.
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Jul 22, 2020 22:40
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I still associate DiTerlizzi with AD&D Dark Sun. Jason Chan has some really cool art, I always liked Twilight Shepherd. The spirit avatar cycle really got my attention in sets I already loved the art for, Shadowmoor and Eventide. Greg Staples' Divinity of Pride and Chippy's Overbeing of Myth especially.Willeh posted:Did anyone mention Richard Kane Ferguson yet for favorite artist? His Dakkon Blackblade is one of the most iconic characters imo. RKF and Dakkon were my favorite in the 90s for sure. Christopher Rush and Jesper Myrfos in The Dark.
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Jul 22, 2020 22:51
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bagrada posted:I still associate DiTerlizzi with AD&D Dark Sun. Jason Chan has some really cool art, I always liked Twilight Shepherd. The spirit avatar cycle really got my attention in sets I already loved the art for, Shadowmoor and Eventide. Greg Staples' Divinity of Pride and Chippy's Overbeing of Myth especially. Dark Sun was mostly Thomas Baxa and Brom. DiTerlizzi was far more involved with Planescape. rk post did a bunch of Planescape, as well as TSR's later sci-fi RPG, Alternity.
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Jul 22, 2020 22:55
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Bust Rodd posted:The worst part is that they just did the Anime walkers, the glass walkers, and the absolutely BONKERS comic-book Ikoria alternates which is some of the coolest looking magic cards ever printed. They could go so weird and cool and I would be completely about it. Sadly, they've realized they can just sell different art styles, whether through ultra rare cards / collectors packs or secret lairs. I'd say the odds of weird art coming back to regular cards are lower than they've ever been.
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Jul 22, 2020 22:57
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Bust Rodd posted:The worst part is that they just did the Anime walkers, the glass walkers, and the absolutely BONKERS comic-book Ikoria alternates which is some of the coolest looking magic cards ever printed. They could go so weird and cool and I would be completely about it. God those comic book art cards were amazing. Too bad they’re mostly mutate creatures that are totally useless outside draft and Otrimi commander decks.
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Jul 22, 2020 23:18
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Arivia posted:Dark Sun was mostly Thomas Baxa and Brom. DiTerlizzi was far more involved with Planescape. rk post did a bunch of Planescape, as well as TSR's later sci-fi RPG, Alternity. And BROM has done a bunch of mtg cards as well including some very iconic cards. Most of it is tempest - urzas era, but nothing since Mirrodin though.  edit oh poo poo Baxa has as well. More than 2x the amount BROM did, and quite a few iconic ones.
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Jul 22, 2020 23:47
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Wait Christopher Rush died?! gently caress! Next to ron spencer, he is up there for my favorite mtg artists  Owlbear Camus posted:Back in the 90s I had a Merfolk deck and really dug the art on Merfolk Assassin by Dennis Detwiller.
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Jul 23, 2020 00:05
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I swear at some point ~ 5 years ago Maro was saying they were shying away from alternate art promos because people use the art to identify cards while playing far more than the actual text.
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Jul 23, 2020 00:16
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For me it's RK Post, I got to meet him at GP Philly back in '12 and he was the nicest guy, super into doing alters. I still use the signed alt art Morphling playmat I got there. His stuff had a good mix of clean photorealism but could also knock out the alien aspect of Magic too.
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Jul 23, 2020 00:29
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I was always a fan of Jesper Myrfors. At one point I was trying to make a Myrfors deck.
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Jul 23, 2020 00:34
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Owlbear Camus posted:Just got a message from a friend of a friend on Facebook. Please keep us posted, old MTG collections are always a fun lottery to hear about. I had a similar situation with a friend once but the only non-chaff card was a whiteborder Lord of Atlantis.
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Jul 23, 2020 00:36
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Jeff Laubenstein has been one of my favorites since I met him at a GP ages ago. Super nice guy with a pretty fun cartoony style you don’t get these days.
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Jul 23, 2020 01:34
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Arivia posted:Dark Sun was mostly Thomas Baxa and Brom. DiTerlizzi was far more involved with Planescape. rk post did a bunch of Planescape, as well as TSR's later sci-fi RPG, Alternity. Oh right I did mix him up with Brom. DiTerlizzi was in the Planescape monster manuals I had.
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Jul 23, 2020 02:12
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Can you flicker a meddling mage to act like a counter?
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Jul 23, 2020 02:18
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:Can you flicker a meddling mage to act like a counter? no, because the card has already been played.
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Jul 23, 2020 02:19
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Crackbone posted:I swear at some point ~ 5 years ago Maro was saying they were shying away from alternate art promos because people use the art to identify cards while playing far more than the actual text. It was probably true then. New WOTC is nothing like 5 years ago. Basically they discovered the concept of whales and/or someone realized what people spend on the secondary market and realized all that money was being left on the table. They've charged full speed ahead to embrace customers who will spend stupid amounts of money while trying to have products for non-whales so they have someone to play with more or less. The only thing they haven't done yet is premium product cards with higher power level, but I'd be shocked if they weren't exploring it in some way. The $100 pack is irresistible from a corporate standpoint, because as long as you forecast reasonably well you're going to make tons because your production costs for the cards don't go up, but get to mark it up a zillion %. None of the outrage matters from "the community" because they know they have customers for the product.
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Jul 23, 2020 04:02
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jassi007 posted:It was probably true then. New WOTC is nothing like 5 years ago. Basically they discovered the concept of whales and/or someone realized what people spend on the secondary market and realized all that money was being left on the table. They've charged full speed ahead to embrace customers who will spend stupid amounts of money while trying to have products for non-whales so they have someone to play with more or less. The only thing they haven't done yet is premium product cards with higher power level, but I'd be shocked if they weren't exploring it in some way. The $100 pack is irresistible from a corporate standpoint, because as long as you forecast reasonably well you're going to make tons because your production costs for the cards don't go up, but get to mark it up a zillion %. None of the outrage matters from "the community" because they know they have customers for the product. Secret lair could have not only been very profitable for WOTC ( i mean it currently is no question), but it also could be been infinitely more well received if they just could have a bit of self control. Imagine a world where certain cards needed reprints but were too problematic to put into a set? Bam, secret lair that poo poo for a reasonable price and you profit while getting good pub. Instead, they printed sets of fetchlands at what they cost currently in the second market and got bad pub. There is just a point where this negitively affects the player base too much and implodes right?
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Jul 23, 2020 05:27
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Chamale posted:Please keep us posted, old MTG collections are always a fun lottery to hear about. I had a similar situation with a friend once but the only non-chaff card was a whiteborder Lord of Atlantis. I mean we're talking ABU and early expansions if he's right about when the cards are from. I'll let the thread know what's in the pile.
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Jul 23, 2020 05:30
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Sickening posted:There is just a point where this negitively affects the player base too much and implodes right? There's a chance that paper magic just doesn't recover from the pandemic-induced slump, yes.
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Jul 23, 2020 06:03
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Jabor posted:There's a chance that paper magic just doesn't recover from the pandemic-induced slump, yes. It's a possibility, though it's also totally possible that paper will bounce back hard in 2021 or early 2022 because people will be very eager to get out and be social again. Like everything else, the future is uncertain right now.
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Jul 23, 2020 06:08
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Magic isn't too big to fail, but if it does it's death will be a slow one. There's enough of a full economy built around M:tG out there that is partially, if not completely, dependent on Magic's success to keep existing that people will spend entire personal fortunes and every bit of social capital they've acquired. It's death could take years to complete, even after a point where it's entirely irreversible, simply because there's enough people invested in it not failing. The problem is, of course, that Wizards and Hasbro has made it very clear that they know this and it would take more then some really hateful anti-consumer business practices to kill Magic at this point
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Jul 23, 2020 06:38
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I don't know if Hasbro/wotc are smart enough to realize that magic isn't too big to fail imo. they're going to keep pushing the envelope and when each thing they do doesn't immediately kill magic, they'll conclude that the market can handle it and stay the course
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Jul 23, 2020 09:02
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You guys, I dunno how to break this to you, but MtG has probably made more money from Arena whales in the last 2 years than they’ve made off paper cards over the last decade. Typically paper players see paper magic and OP magic as the juggernaught of the game but times have changed and there is no doubt in my mind that Hasbro recognizes that Arena is absolutely their chief income source moving forward.
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Jul 23, 2020 13:08
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The Klowner posted:I don't know if Hasbro/wotc are smart enough to realize that magic isn't too big to fail imo. they're going to keep pushing the envelope and when each thing they do doesn't immediately kill magic, they'll conclude that the market can handle it and stay the course They may not be, but to Mr. Locke's point look at large businesses that have failed. Kodak, Blockbuster, Toys'R'Us. They continued for years being unprofitable trying this and that to right the ship. WotC is one of the most profitable arms of Hasbro, so they're no where near death. If you'd see a sustained downturn in their profits the first thing you'll see is all sort of key leadership changes, like they'd retire Maro and Aaron Forscythe etc. Frankly as poo poo as it may be, they're currently on an upswing increasing profits from a small but lucrative segment of their customers.
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Jul 23, 2020 13:09
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Mox Opal (as was leaked) and Ensnaring Bridge, both at Mythic.
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Jul 23, 2020 13:10
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Chill la Chill posted:I would be excited for old art stasis done as a masterpiece/borderless/super secret rare parallel foil card. MTG art still hasn't beaten Stasis as best card art, after all these years They should reprint it with modern super realistic looking art but depicting the same scene of a blindfolded kangaroo with a ball, pierrot clown and artists palette on a seesaw under moonlight. Sebs new art is beautiful though, despite the lack of kangaroos. Also double masters starting to look not bad.
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Jul 23, 2020 13:31
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Not for nothing but many Asian streamers and content creators are SUPER DUPER pissed about the new bob art. I looked around for clips and found a lot of Chinese and Japanese clips (but not in English) but holy crap that art is, potential racism notwithstanding, extremely bad.
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Jul 23, 2020 13:32
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Most of the box topper art has been pretty bad imo. Although I actually like the MM bob art more than the ravnica original.
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Jul 23, 2020 13:36
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WotC has greenlit some objectively lovely art lately, e.g.
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Jul 23, 2020 13:38
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I’ll just come out and say that the art for C21 is the worst in years and all the dogs look FUCKIN STUPID.
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Jul 23, 2020 13:40
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Bust Rodd posted:I’ll just come out and say that the art for C21 is the worst in years and all the dogs look FUCKIN STUPID. Thank you for this brave stance and interesting post
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Jul 23, 2020 13:44
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 Everything about this sucks, from the insane perspective warping to the bloated Rob Liefield thighs to the impossibly stupid idea of dog armor, I hate this set lol... too bad PawBlade is the only fun standard deck right now. At least I can play with Winota somewhere.
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Jul 23, 2020 13:51
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The cat art, on the other hand, is wonderful. 🐾
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Jul 23, 2020 14:01
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Bust Rodd posted:
i, too, will die on the "dogs in the magical childrens game would not be wearing armor" hill
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Jul 23, 2020 14:08
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apologies for the "haul post", but I got around to opening the other two booster boxes I had picked up alongside the first. Are these fairly indicative of the outcomes of a typical booster box nowadays? the mythics/rares and any foil mythics/rares shown, not the foil commons/uncommons. one box was a loving banger with the foil borderless ugin and a regular ugin as well, as well as terror of the peaks, full art massacre wurm, among others(and like 4 of that adorable dog card that's a beagle in armor happily charging to the rescue). then a seemingly decent box with a non-foil ugin and some borderless foils, and a third fairly nondescript box.    Getting three Massacre Wurms makes me want to make a deck around them, plus they're creepy as hell. and each box had about a booster's worth of foils, which is nicer than the like, 3 foils you'd get in the booster boxes when I was playing during urza block. though I think I liked the way those foils looked better(outside of the new ones that incorporate the foil aspect into the card art itself, like the one where it's a screaming face and his entire mouth and eyes are just all foil) I'm the sort of person who will buy a lego set and immediately build something other than the instructions say, using only the parts in that set. I would do similar things with magic cards; only buy boosters and trade for anything I wanted to put in my decks from other people in the game store rather than go buy singles, not that I could afford them. it was a different beast though, since ebay wasn't really a big thing yet and so the LGS was the only reliable source for rares, which were invariably pricey. 15 dollar Emperor Crocodile, anyone? Thinking I'll sell the three Ugins and come out with a sizeable collection for comparatively little. Anything else I should offload, or are just the Ugins worth selling?
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Bust Rodd posted:
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