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A Russian troll farm posted:A mountie might have killed a guy( i can't wait for this disgusting person to get a bunch of free money and vacation time for his attempted murder
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I got a really bad feeling after watching that video. I mean, aside from the obvious. More like dread for what's coming, like for all our pretensions of being better off than the US, we're just a little behind the curve, and in 10 years we'll have unidentified federal agents snatching people off the street too
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Jul 22, 2020 21:37
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A Russian troll farm posted:in 10 years we'll have unidentified federal agents snatching people off the street too we had that 10 years during the toronto G20
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Jul 22, 2020 21:50
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A Russian troll farm posted:I got a really bad feeling after watching that video. I mean, aside from the obvious. More like dread for what's coming, like for all our pretensions of being better off than the US, we're just a little behind the curve, and in 10 years we'll have unidentified federal agents snatching people off the street too The RCMP are worse than the FBI
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Jul 22, 2020 21:52
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BattleMaster posted:we had that 10 years during the toronto G20 they detained people in chain link cages without access to food, water, or medical attention for up to 48 hours, without charges the only repercussion after years of inquiries was one senior officer getting tossed under the bus, and being sentenced to lose some banked holiday pay.
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Jul 22, 2020 21:58
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infernal machines posted:they detained people in chain link cages without access to food, water, or medical attention for up to 48 hours, without charges we were being a little more monarchy in our democratic monarchy that day
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Jul 22, 2020 22:07
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infernal machines posted:they detained people in chain link cages without access to food, water, or medical attention for up to 48 hours, without charges Yeah but Nobody got hurt at Queen's Park (https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/toronto/how-a-man-named-nobody-became-the-battered-face-of-g20-protests/article1320838/)
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Jul 22, 2020 22:13
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infernal machines posted:they detained people in chain link cages without access to food, water, or medical attention for up to 48 hours, without charges Wrong; the main repercussion is that the guy in charge of all of that is now the federal Minister of Public Safety.
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Jul 22, 2020 22:16
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eXXon posted:Wrong; the main repercussion is that the guy in charge of all of that is now the federal Minister of Public Safety. oh, no, you're mistaken, bill blair wasn't in charge. i can't imagine why you'd think he was. no, it was all mark fenton. Tochiazuma posted:Yeah but Nobody got hurt at Queen's Park nobody got a broken arm and was denied medical attention nope
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Jul 22, 2020 22:19
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the worst part of that video isn't the violence but the cop just sitting there with the guy's head bleeding, not doing a drat thing
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Jul 22, 2020 22:26
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what did I tell you? Doesn't even look at the guy...
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Jul 22, 2020 22:32
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Dreylad posted:the worst part of that video isn't the violence but the cop just sitting there with the guy's head bleeding, not doing a drat thing this seems to be a common theme and i dunno where it comes from. is it a "not my job" thing? avoiding disturbing a crime scene? trained to assume someone's faking it?
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Jul 22, 2020 22:42
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it comes from complete dehumanization of the victim in the eyes of the police officer
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Jul 22, 2020 22:43
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pokeyman posted:this seems to be a common theme and i dunno where it comes from. is it a "not my job" thing? avoiding disturbing a crime scene? trained to assume someone's faking it? why would you go to all that work to kill someone and then try to keep them alive?
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Jul 22, 2020 22:43
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pokeyman posted:this seems to be a common theme and i dunno where it comes from. is it a "not my job" thing? avoiding disturbing a crime scene? trained to assume someone's faking it? I have no loving idea, if I hurt someone and first aid training (which all cops should have, right?) I would try to help them. Unless there's something about head wounds where you aren't supposed to stop the bleeding that I'm not aware of
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Jul 22, 2020 22:44
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Babak Andalib-Goortani posted:I didn't crack that guy's skull open by accident
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Jul 22, 2020 22:45
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pokeyman posted:this seems to be a common theme and i dunno where it comes from. is it a "not my job" thing? avoiding disturbing a crime scene? trained to assume someone's faking it? a general disdain for the public and an inability to take any responsibility for their own actions, I think also this infernal machines posted:it comes from complete dehumanization of the victim in the eyes of the police officer
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quote:In 2013, Andalib-Goortani was convicted of assault with a weapon for his role in Nobody's beating. The trial judge, Ontario Court Justice Louise Botham, commented that "a police officer is not entitled to use unlimited force to affect an arrest." Botham, who was brought in to Toronto from Brampton to hear the case, subsequently sentenced Andalib-Goortani to 45 days in jail. In her ruling, Botham indicated that the sentence was heavy influenced by video of Andalib-Goortani, along with a number of other officers whose disciplinary charges were dismissed, punching, kneeing, kicking, and striking the victim with a baton; stating that the period of incarceration was necessary to uphold the public's faith in the justice system.
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Jul 22, 2020 22:47
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its also cool that we have that law that allows the government to hold someone deemed a "terrorist" indefinitely with no actual definition of what a terrorist is
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Jul 22, 2020 23:09
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DariusLikewise posted:its also cool that we have that law that allows the government to hold someone deemed a "terrorist" indefinitely with no actual definition of what a terrorist is a terrorist is anyone that is being held indefinitely
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Jul 23, 2020 00:15
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it's anyone not considered white.
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Jul 23, 2020 00:22
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what the gently caress
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Jul 23, 2020 01:05
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for all the pissing and moaning about suspension with pay while being investigated, i think being docked vacation pay in lieu of jail time is probably more egregious. same thing happened to mark "sacrificial lamb" fenton over his charges for the g20 abuses, and even then he appealed.
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Jul 23, 2020 01:10
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infernal machines posted:the period of incarceration was necessary to uphold the public's faith in the justice system. how ironic
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Jul 23, 2020 02:44
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vyelkin posted:how ironic indeed. i sorta glossed over the part where several other officers were caught on the same video assaulting people, but had the charges against them dropped for reasons. also not mentioned, initially none of the officers were identifiable from the video because they had all removed or obscured their name tags. Andalib-Goortani only got charged because he was beating so many people all day that he was caught on another video before he had obscured his name tag, and that was used to identify him in the video that precipitated the charges. dozens of other officers with fully visible faces, photographed and recorded assaulting people, were deemed "unidentifiable" by the courts and were never charged for their crimes.
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Jul 23, 2020 02:51
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Is it true that fhe gov is seriously considering asking people to pay back their cerb
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Jul 23, 2020 15:46
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albany academy posted:Is it true that fhe gov is seriously considering asking people to pay back their cerb So many of my patients took CERB even though they were unemployed (and I can't blame them, they're homeless!). It's gonna come back to turbofuck them in the future when they're asked to pay it back, and of course have no money.
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Jul 23, 2020 16:38
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Why the gently caress wasn't it just a general unemployment benefit to fix the patchwork garbage we have Oh right whining businesses complaining about not being able to pay their workers minimum wage
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Jul 23, 2020 16:45
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The uncertainty around who is and isn’t entitled to CERB causes a ton of confusion. I was laid off and qualified for about a month. Got partially recalled to work and those couple days a week should put me over the $1k/month threshold. I’ve reported my income accurately every two weeks, yet the deposits keep coming. I have no idea if I’m broke because all that money needs to be saved to pay back come tax time in April, or if I’m ok. If I spend it on rent/groceries/etc there’s no way in hell I’ll earn enough between now and tax time 2021 to be able to pay back several thousand dollars. The opposition parties would be wise to force an election in late April/early May of 2021. Tax time will be an enormous clusterfuck. I doubt the Libs are smart enough to just write it all off and not claw back CERB from desperate people in a pandemic.
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I've been working from home doing call centre work, pretty glad tax nonsense isn't a worry, but man has it trained me to hate people.
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BGrifter posted:The uncertainty around who is and isn’t entitled to CERB causes a ton of confusion. the NDP should do this and run on a campaign of "we won't make you pay back CERB"
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vyelkin posted:the NDP should do this and run on a campaign of "we won't make you pay back CERB" 8.34 million unique applicants, 37.59 million Canadians. Ignoring voting age because this whole post is a low effort joke, that's 22.2%. Of them, a certain chunk would never ever vote NDP no matter what, and hey, look at that, now we're in the mid-high teens (as usual).
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When you realize that the CERB is just an economy stimulus sent directly to the populace instead of to whoever the government choses - it's quite possibly the best and most fair economic stimulus I've seen in my lifetime in Canada. The cons love to say people are squirreling it away and it's being abused - but surely it's mostly going into either debt repayment or into the economy; if it was squirreled away; it's sitting in a 2% HISA at best doing nothing, no big deal.
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https://twitter.com/Tim_Bousquet/status/1286334920739217413?s=19 https://twitter.com/Tim_Bousquet/status/1286334997981536256?s=19 What a crock of poo poo
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Jul 23, 2020 19:37
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the tried and true tradition of getting some rich old white people together in secret to make things worse
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Jul 23, 2020 19:38
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BGrifter posted:I doubt the Libs are smart enough to just write it all off and not claw back CERB from desperate people in a pandemic. it's really going to depend how many people took it. i have to imagine basically every homeless person with access to wifi applied, i mean why wouldn't they. those people will never be able to pay any money back. what then? is the government going to imprison every homeless person in Canada? seems like it would be cheaper to just build them an apartment in the first place
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Jul 23, 2020 19:52
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Rutibex posted:it's really going to depend how many people took it. i have to imagine basically every homeless person with access to wifi applied, i mean why wouldn't they. those people will never be able to pay any money back. what then? is the government going to imprison every homeless person in Canada? seems like it would be cheaper to just build them an apartment in the first place I remember a couple homeless agencies going on record and saying "yep, we helped our clients apply because they need the loving money and gently caress the rest of the poo poo."
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Jul 23, 2020 19:58
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let's check in on Lindsay Shepherd
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Jul 23, 2020 20:05
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wow, she's a "fellow" at true north? really moving up in the world lindsay
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