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Comrayn
Jul 22, 2008

Milo and POTUS posted:

That's a really funny answer tbf

The way he said it sounded more like he was answering a question like "what's that" he wasn't denying that the bible was his or something

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Harold Stassen
Jan 24, 2016
If someone says "is that your x? "and you say "it's A x" you are non-specifically but definitely disavowing your ownership of x by virtue of not answering "yes"

Trump doesn't own a bible as far as one that he actually makes reference to scripture for, does anyone really think he does?

Cockblocktopus
Apr 18, 2009

Since the beginning of time, man has yearned to destroy the sun.


Two Corinthians

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?
Kneel before you, that's what I said now

Toph Bei Fong
Feb 29, 2008



former glory
Jul 11, 2011

Ted Cruz's freshman roommate describing him as a slug man

Dave Concepcion
Mar 19, 2012
that's the guy who created the Chernobyl mini-series btw

Toph Bei Fong
Feb 29, 2008



former glory posted:

Ted Cruz's freshman roommate describing him as a slug man









Lamech
Nov 20, 2001



Soiled Meat
i just remembered bob dole, and learned he is still alive

https://twitter.com/SenatorDole/status/1285971976654397441?s=20

Spergin Morlock
Aug 8, 2009

Lamech posted:

i just remembered bob dole, and learned he is still alive

https://twitter.com/SenatorDole/status/1285971976654397441?s=20

i wonder if he still gets boners for britney spears. or at all

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES

Spergin Morlock posted:

i wonder if he still gets boners for britney spears. or at all

GalacticAcid posted:

bob dole hawked dick pills


Lamech
Nov 20, 2001



Soiled Meat
his pen hand is all set up for it

chaleski
Apr 25, 2014

former glory posted:

Ted Cruz's freshman roommate describing him as a slug man





I can't find the other one but he talks about Ted Cruz jerking off in the bunk below him, after Ted's whole porn retweet gaffe

Hand Knit
Oct 24, 2005

Beer Loses more than a game Sunday ...
We lost our Captain, our Teammate, our Friend Kelly Calabro...
Rest in Peace my friend you will be greatly missed..
After Obama was elected, Israel launched a massive attack on Palestine because they were afraid Obama would not continue the US' support of Israel.

Smirking_Serpent
Aug 27, 2009

lol that time when obama allowed some loving UN vote against israel to go forward while he was a lame duck and everyone acted like it was the second holocaust

DesertIslandHermit
Oct 7, 2019

It's beautiful. And it's for the god of...of...arts and crafts. I think that's what he said.
Michelle Bachmann in the 2012 Republican Primary debate going 'ANDERSON! ANDERSON! ANDERSON!'

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ek3OUay2uWw

One More Fat Nerd
Apr 13, 2007

Mama’s Lil’ Louie

Nap Ghost

Hand Knit posted:

After Obama was elected, Israel launched a massive attack on Palestine because they were afraid Obama would not continue the US' support of Israel.

Israeli govt specifically said their worry about Obama is he might be "fair" in dealing with I/P, and that was unacceptable.

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
Ironically their real worry was that he was swarthy

Antonymous
Apr 4, 2009


its works as a decent reverse vince mcmahon, where things just get lamer and less pleasing

Toph Bei Fong
Feb 29, 2008



The Raines Sandwich





quote:

NEAR THE END OF THE 19th century, New Yorkers out for a drink partook in one of the more unusual rituals in the annals of hospitality. When they ordered an ale or whisky, the waiter or bartender would bring it out with a sandwich. Generally speaking, the sandwich was not edible. It was “an old desiccated ruin of dust-laden bread and mummified ham or cheese,” wrote the playwright Eugene O’Neill. Other times it was made of rubber. Bar staff would commonly take the sandwich back seconds after it had arrived, pair it with the next beverage order, and whisk it over to another patron’s table. Some sandwiches were kept in circulation for a week or more.

Bar owners insisted on this bizarre charade to avoid breaking the law—specifically, the excise law of 1896, which restricted how and when drinks could be served in New York State. The so-called Raines Law was a combination of good intentions, unstated prejudices, and unforeseen consequences, among them the comically unsavory Raines sandwich.

The new law did not come out of nowhere. Republican reformers, many of them based far upstate in Albany, had been trying for years to curb public drunkenness. They were also frustrated about New York City’s lax enforcement of so-called Sabbath laws, which included a ban on Sunday boozing. New York Republicans spoke for a constituency largely comprised of rural and small-town churchgoers. But the party had also gained a foothold in Democratic New York City, where a 37-year-old firebrand named Theodore Roosevelt had been pushing a law-and-order agenda as president of the city’s newly organized police commission. Roosevelt, a supporter of the Raines Law, predicted that it would “solve whatever remained of the problem of Sunday closing.”

New York City at the time was home to some 8,000 saloons. The seediest among them were “dimly lit, foul-smelling, rickety-chaired, stale-beer dives” that catered to “vagrants, shipless sailors, incompetent thieves, [and] aging streetwalkers,” Richard Zacks writes in Island of Vice, his book-length account of Roosevelt’s reform campaign.

The 1896 Raines Law was designed to put dreary watering holes like these out of business. It raised the cost of an annual liquor license to $800, three times what it had cost before and a tenfold increase for beer-only taverns. It stipulated that saloons could not open within 200 feet of a school or church, and raised the drinking age from 16 to 18. In addition, it banned one of the late 19th-century saloon’s most potent enticements: the free lunch. At McSorley’s, for example, cheese, soda bread, and raw onions were on the house. (The 160-year-old bar still sells a tongue-in-cheek version of this today.) Most controversial of all was the law’s renewed assault on Sunday drinking. Its author, Finger Lakes region senator John W. Raines, eliminated the “golden hour” grace period that followed the stroke of midnight on Saturday. His law also forced saloon owners to keep their curtains open on Sunday, making it considerably harder for patrolmen to turn a blind eye.

The Raines Law took effect on April 1, 1896. Progressives scored its first weekend in action a bone-dry success. Bars closed Saturday at midnight; the liquor flow on Sunday slowed to a trickle. RAINES MAKES A THIRST, a New York World headline quipped. But while the teetotalers celebrated over lemonade, plenty of booze-deprived New Yorkers were fuming.

Behind this lifestyle tug-of-war lay a cultural conflict of national proportions. Those in favor of the Sunday ban, generally middle-class and Protestant, saw it as a cornerstone of social improvement. For those against, including the city’s tide of German and Irish immigrants, it was an act of repression—an especially spiteful one because it limited how the average laborer could enjoy himself on his one day off. The Sunday ban was not popular, to say the least, among the city’s Jews, who’d already observed their Sabbath the day before.

Opponents pointed out that existing Sabbath drinking laws were hypocritical anyway. An explicit loophole had been written into the law itself: it allowed lodging houses with ten rooms or more to serve guests drinks with meals seven days a week. Not incidentally, wealthy New Yorkers tended to dine out at the city’s ritzy hotel restaurants on Sundays, the usual day off for live-in servants.

Intentionally or not, the Raines Law left wiggle room for the rich. But a loophole was a loophole, and Sunday was many a proprietor’s most profitable day of business. By the following weekend, a vanguard of downtown saloon-owners were gleefully testing the law’s limits. A suspicious number of private “clubs” were founded that April, and saloons started handing out membership cards to their regulars. Meanwhile, proprietors converted basements and attic spaces into “rooms,” cut hasty deals with neighboring lodging-houses, and threw tablecloths over pool tables. They also started dishing up the easiest, cheapest, most reusable meal they could get away with: the Raines sandwich.

Law enforcement declared itself satisfied. “I would not say that a cracker is a complete meal in itself, but a sandwich is,” an assistant D.A. in Brooklyn told an assembly of police captains as the first Raines hotels sprouted up. Remarkably, the courts upheld these definitions of “meal” and “guest.” Reformers were understandably flabbergasted. The law itself was sound, Raines complained. It was the police and the courts that had made it laughable. He and his progressive allies had seriously underestimated just how far New Yorkers would go for a drink.

The court decisions were a turning point. With summer approaching, “Raines hotels” sprang up everywhere. By the next year’s election season, there were more than 1,500 of them in New York. Brooklyn, still a separate municipality at this point, went from 13 registered hotels to 800 in six months, and its tally of social clubs grew tenfold.

For the libertines of New York City, Zacks writes, the second half of 1896 was “too good to be true, a drunken daydream.” The hotel carve-out allowed drinks to flow at all hours. There was no obligatory last call, and the city’s liveliest drinking spots now offered cheap beds mere steps away. For Raines and the law’s other architects, this was the most alarming unintended consequence: their efforts to make New Yorkers virtuous had caused a spike in casual sex and prostitution.

The state government ratified a set of clarifying amendments a year later. The free-for-all atmosphere faded, albeit slowly. Still, for years following the passage of the Raines Law, a general state of confusion and case-by-case dealings reigned. Following a wave of enforcement in 1902, hotel proprietors arrived at a creative solution: charging a premium for the obligatory sandwich. The Waldorf-Astoria went the classy route, offering unwanted meat patties instead, but the result was the same: a 50- or 100-percent markup to each drink ordered. The police seem to have appreciated the clarity of this arrangement. As long as Sunday drinking remained “an expensive luxury,” the Times suggested, its excesses would be tolerated by the average upstanding citizen. And for many a Sunday drinker, even some of the poorer ones, the inflated tab was preferable to risking arrest in an illicit backroom. Raines himself saw this as “the only compromise that is possible in New York.”

The Raines Law tussle continued well into the 20th century. The New York Supreme Court ruled in 1907 that a Sunday meal must be ordered and delivered in “good faith” for the accompanying drinks to be legal. Under pressure, brewers started refusing to supply Raines hotels. A new state excise law in 1917 contained a minimum-room requirement that effectively prevented the opening of new ones.

But the Raines Law debacle was merely a prelude for what was to come. New York reformers had long allied themselves with the Anti-Saloon League, a civilian organization with Midwestern origins that would morph into one of the most powerful pressure groups in U.S. history. By 1919, the efforts of the ASL made nationwide Prohibition the law of the land, putting an end to such quaint half-measures as the Raines sandwich and replacing the Raines hotel with the speakeasy.

Mantis42
Jul 26, 2010

Man, gently caress temperance libs.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

chaleski posted:



I can't find the other one but he talks about Ted Cruz jerking off in the bunk below him, after Ted's whole porn retweet gaffe

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/ted-cruz-roommate-porn-craig-mazin_n_59b7cff4e4b031cc65cc995d

Kitfox88
Aug 21, 2007

Anybody lose their glasses?

Mantis42 posted:

Man, gently caress temperance libs.

gotta love how it was blatantly designed to gently caress over only poor laborers and jewish folk

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

Mantis42 posted:

Man, gently caress temperance libs.

The origins of prohibition were wives getting tired of getting beaten by their alcoholic husbands, and it was deemed more realistic to make alcohol illegal than wife beating.

moist turtleneck
Jul 17, 2003

Represent.



Dinosaur Gum
when rudy gobert licked all the mics at the press conference because covid was fake and then the nba shut down shortly after

also when tests were extremely in demand and oklahoma used all of their tests on nba players

bio force ape
Apr 3, 2016
probably said two dozen times over minimum over the course of this thread but lol the spooky doomsday owners of Hobby Lobby directing funding ISIS crimes against humanity lol

Unless
Jul 24, 2005

I art



bio force ape posted:

probably said two dozen times over minimum over the course of this thread but lol the spooky doomsday owners of Hobby Lobby directing funding ISIS crimes against humanity lol

Oh yeah.

“Hobby Lobby’s Hammurabi robbing hobby.”

I remember the hashtag #bendghazi being the funniest poo poo when one of the new iPhones had a weak aluminum frame.

moist turtleneck
Jul 17, 2003

Represent.



Dinosaur Gum
also wasn't the punishment like "dont do that again and please use an independent investigator to vouch for this poo poo not being artifacts that you shouldn't own"

FORUMS USER 1135
Jan 14, 2004

Larry Craig's wide stance

bio force ape
Apr 3, 2016

moist turtleneck posted:

also wasn't the punishment like "dont do that again and please use an independent investigator to vouch for this poo poo not being artifacts that you shouldn't own"

yup!

also check thisout

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hobby_Lobby_smuggling_scandal

this polite Wikipedia article also avoids the messy matter of "stolen by who, from where and how and why?"

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007

zegermans posted:

The origins of prohibition were wives getting tired of getting beaten by their alcoholic husbands, and it was deemed more realistic to make alcohol illegal than wife beating.

surprisingly, it worked.

Tulip
Jun 3, 2008

yeah thats pretty good


The temperance movement's success is incredible considering that it was like 10% of the people and those people weren't capitalists. God-tier electoral organizing.

bio force ape posted:

probably said two dozen times over minimum over the course of this thread but lol the spooky doomsday owners of Hobby Lobby directing funding ISIS crimes against humanity lol

they've been brought to court for sub-crimes of that within the last couple months and every single time it produces insane court case names like

UNITED STATES OF AMERICA v ONE CUNEIFORM TABLET KNOWN AS THE “GILGAMESH DREAM TABLET”

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
That’s good, but it’s not dethroning “United States v. Article Consisting of 50,000 Cardboard Boxes More or Less, Each Containing One Pair of Clacker Balls”.

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011

Platystemon posted:

That’s good, but it’s not dethroning “United States v. Article Consisting of 50,000 Cardboard Boxes More or Less, Each Containing One Pair of Clacker Balls”.

United States v. Approximately 64,695 Pounds of Shark Fins
and
United States v. Approximately 64 Dogs

are also hall-of-famers imo

Feldegast42
Oct 29, 2011

COMMENCE THE RITE OF SHITPOSTING

United States v. Approximately 100 Gross Self-Sealing Stem Bolts

DesertIslandHermit
Oct 7, 2019

It's beautiful. And it's for the god of...of...arts and crafts. I think that's what he said.


It was like it was just yesterday.

Toph Bei Fong
Feb 29, 2008





Cockblocktopus
Apr 18, 2009

Since the beginning of time, man has yearned to destroy the sun.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VC6H-8hktFE

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MD2020
May 30, 2003

she had tiny Italian boobs.
Well that's my story.

Tulip posted:

The temperance movement's success is incredible considering that it was like 10% of the people and those people weren't capitalists. God-tier electoral organizing.


Seems like smashing poo poo up with a hatchet and going "bar's closed, fuckers" has demonstrable results.

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