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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Wasn't he diagnosed with dementia around the time he resigned? I don't think he was diagnosed with dementia until the mid-80s
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Jul 24, 2020 02:02
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Chuka Umana posted:I don't think he was diagnosed with dementia until the mid-80s He may have had it but not the diagnosis. So he may have known he was losing cognitive function at the time. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/wilson-may-have-had-alzheimers-when-he-resigned-1009829.html quote:Harold Wilson may have been suffering the early stages of Alzheimer's disease when he stunned Britain by resigning as Prime Minister, new research suggests.
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Jul 24, 2020 02:05
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kingturnip posted:The problem with this theory is that it relies upon MI5 being able to execute a plan. The thing is, there are multiple examples around the world of illiberal democracies (even quite dysfunctional ones) successfully creating managed opposition parties. Russia is the famous one, but it's common in African democracies as well (and Japan is another arguable example, if you want a rich, highly developed country). You will also note that most of the leaders of those look like inept fucksticks by design. There's a reasonable line of argument that the politics of the modern United Kingdom resemble those of a third-world country, and should be viewed through that perspective. We should also remember what happened to the Guardian after Snowden, which can easily be read as the neutralisation and takeover of a major opposition newspaper by the British intelligence services. None of this requires any more competence than the state dominance of the British media, or the prime ministership of Boris Johnson, just money and influence as a blunt instrument. The intelligence services may be incompetent and dysfunctional, but they are still the state intelligence services, and still have power. Remember that capitalism is a competition for power, meaning that the winners of the competition become more and more cushioned from the consequences of their failures. Continued capitalist rule after the collapse of the unstable equilibrium does not actually require a high level of competence.
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Jul 24, 2020 02:19
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Seems this libel thing is catching: Love too be very angry about freeze peach and then use my unbelievable personal wealth to cow someone who writes something negative about me
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Jul 24, 2020 03:05
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Dunno if any of you read that Harpers letter but it was absolutely just a long form of "So much for the tolerant left!" and is deftly countered with Karl Popper's "Paradox of Tolerance" argument that to be tolerant, we must be intolerant of intolerance.
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Jul 24, 2020 04:13
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I mean personally I never really fully backed the notion of "tolerance" as a principle in itself - we oppose bigotry because it's factually incorrect, not because it's mean I "tolerate" lovely people because fighting them would (usually) be unproductive, it's inherently a compromise
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Jul 24, 2020 04:43
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Darth Walrus posted:We should also remember what happened to the Guardian after Snowden, which can easily be read as the neutralisation and takeover of a major opposition newspaper by the British intelligence services. You know the more I think of this the more I think it's actually the case that the Graun was always the same pissweak liberal paper we know and... know, but their hanging of Greenwald out to dry just caused a lot of people to actually realise this, rather than them suddenly tacking to the establishment line. If you had to describe them in one word, certainly this century, that word would be "Blairite" - it's the voice of the comfortable middle class who want gay people to have rights (but not too many, and not the wrong kind of gays of course) and the deserving poor to be allowed a crumb of comfort, but not if it means more taxes or hurting BtL revenue streams. That they were often the most frantic and reaching in their attempts to smear Corbyn bears this out, IMO - they wanted him stopped as much as Murdoch, but couldn't use the same attack lines because they and their readership are supposed to like what he was calling for. I don't know exactly how you could measure this but I'd be very interested to see someone try.
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Jul 24, 2020 07:11
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goddamnedtwisto posted:You know the more I think of this the more I think it's actually the case that the Graun was always the same pissweak liberal paper we know and... know, but their hanging of Greenwald out to dry just caused a lot of people to actually realise this, rather than them suddenly tacking to the establishment line. If you had to describe them in one word, certainly this century, that word would be "Blairite" - it's the voice of the comfortable middle class who want gay people to have rights (but not too many, and not the wrong kind of gays of course) and the deserving poor to be allowed a crumb of comfort, but not if it means more taxes or hurting BtL revenue streams. That they were often the most frantic and reaching in their attempts to smear Corbyn bears this out, IMO - they wanted him stopped as much as Murdoch, but couldn't use the same attack lines because they and their readership are supposed to like what he was calling for. Wasn't the trust that owns the Guardian explicitly created by some rich guy's will a hundred years ago to ensure a liberal newspaper can exist? So being liberal is the whole idea behind the paper.
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Jul 24, 2020 08:18
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:irony: Rowling and hundreds of other writers ... signed a letter published in Harper’s magazine criticising “an intolerance of opposing views, a vogue for public shaming and ostracism” online. It's such a shame that these small fry can't afford to take it to court. Suing someone for being called unpleasant basically proves the accusation in the first place...
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Jul 24, 2020 08:21
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At this point my plan for the next election is probably to spoil my ballot, most likely by writing Woah Jeremy Corbyn all over it. I'm not voting for these cunts, the Greens have killed any goodwill in Stroud, and there's no-one else remotely palatable.
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Jul 24, 2020 08:54
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NotJustANumber99 posted:i didnt know picasso was a jimmy saville now? "For me there are only two kinds of women: goddesses and doormats." he was a misogynist through and through
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Jul 24, 2020 09:57
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https://twitter.com/sainsburys/status/1286275914926632961 Love too mock the notion of not giving customers the plague.
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Jul 24, 2020 10:05
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OwlFancier posted:https://twitter.com/sainsburys/status/1286275914926632961 Wait are they being funny or did the author just sign the tweet?
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Jul 24, 2020 10:14
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stev posted:Wait are they being funny or did the author just sign the tweet? Unless they are playing some ironic long game they are signing the name of the person that replied. Further down it's abbie.
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Jul 24, 2020 10:17
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Can't wait until it's Dick's turn.
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Jul 24, 2020 10:26
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Jolyon Maugham QC continues to point his liberal lawyeriness at JK's transphobia and hypocrisy, which is odd but nice.
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Jul 24, 2020 10:27
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I like Tesco’s policy of letting their staff choose whether to wear a mask or not, so you can easily see which ones are massive selfish twats and keep away from them. A couple in front of me at the self-serve tills said to an employee buying shopping “shouldn’t you be wearing a mask if you’re a customer?” She turned round and screeched “I WORK ERE SO I ANT GOT TO WEAR ONE”. Good to see Tesco’s always-excellent approach to customer relations remains undimmed.
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Jul 24, 2020 10:30
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Bobstar posted:Jolyon Maugham QC continues to point his liberal lawyeriness at JK's transphobia and hypocrisy, which is odd but nice. He said reasonably Correct things about the 'cancel culture' thing, too. Pretty sure he's in the Peter Oborne category of someone who sincerely believes a not-great ideology is a force for good, and acts accordingly.
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Jul 24, 2020 10:30
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My fudge has just arrived. This is a good day.
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Jul 24, 2020 10:41
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Skilbs posted:My fudge has just arrived. This is a good day. Same, although don't have a sample of those tempting sounding fudgeshakes sadly
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Jul 24, 2020 11:02
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My son was issued masks this week and if he is seen in uniform not wearing one in a public store, its a final written warning for 2 years.
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Jul 24, 2020 11:03
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Nothingtoseehere posted:Same, although don't have a sample of those tempting sounding fudgeshakes sadly Sadly that ended up not working out- I’m going to be refining the concept over the next few weeks and figuring where it went wrong. Also, can I get reports on the condition of boxes? As repeat customers will notice I’ve changed up my packaging after last month’s ‘issues’. Edit: more specifically, it turned into a sort of crumbly powder block (like a sweet oxo cube) when de-fridged for several days to test for shippability. While in all likelihood it would still be fine, I’m not gonna release something which I don’t fully understand the properties of yet to my customers. I hope you guys understand. Camrath fucked around with this message at 11:10 on Jul 24, 2020 |
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Jul 24, 2020 11:04
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Very responsible, you don't know if consuming it might cause people to turn into some sort of fudge based organism that hunts and destroys all life on earth.
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Jul 24, 2020 11:12
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OwlFancier posted:Very responsible, you don't know if consuming it might cause people to turn into some sort of fudge based organism that hunts and destroys all life on earth. I’m glad someone understands my very real concerns. It’s more that I haven’t been able to test it for shelf-life, durability etc. With its somewhat powdery state it has a /lot/ more surface area in contact with the air, and while my food hygiene skills are strong I can’t predict how that will affect spoilage rates. I don’t want to accidentally mass poison a collection of goons, basically. I know I am a monster and will take my place at the wall (no blindfold and a large spliff rather than a cigarette please).
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Jul 24, 2020 11:17
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Happy Mask Day! I caught the train earlier and usually people have been wearing them (mostly with their nose poking over the top or around their neck so that they can eat) though yesterday I was the only person wearing one. I thought I'd start coughing and clearing my throat repeatedly but nobody paid any mind. Fantasies about fake phone conversations saying I have coronavirus. I feel I've learned a lot more about people this year than the last ten combined in that people value normalcy and convenience over their own lives or that of others. If this was the Blitz they'd be having their curtains open every night and putting christmas lights all over their houses. I think this is a cultural thing over anything else, half a century of media idolising the maverick and the individual, the rolling back of the state and importance placed on 'self starting' and survival. I feel that the idea for some that things could be better is offensive as why should others benefit when I've been working hard and my life is still poo poo?
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Jul 24, 2020 11:24
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Sanford posted:I like Tesco’s policy of letting their staff choose whether to wear a mask or not, so you can easily see which ones are massive selfish twats and keep away from them. A couple in front of me at the self-serve tills said to an employee buying shopping “shouldn’t you be wearing a mask if you’re a customer?” She turned round and screeched “I WORK ERE SO I ANT GOT TO WEAR ONE”. Good to see Tesco’s always-excellent approach to customer relations remains undimmed. Realisticially it's to avoid Tesco having to fork out to provide masks to all their staff as mandatory PPE. If it's left to the staff member's discretion then the company probably doesn't have to pay.
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Jul 24, 2020 11:25
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If things could be better then it might mean my cynicism, which is my only personality trait, and which I inflict on everybody else at every opportunity, actually means I am an rear end in a top hat. And we can't have that.
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Jul 24, 2020 11:27
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A good friend of mine (who works at Tesco, funnily enough) can't wear a mask due to a facial deformity that makes it hard for him to breath. I've got mixed feelings about all of this, because on the one hand almost all non-mask-wearers are gonna be selfish gammons, but on the other I'd really prefer if my buddy didn't have to spend all day apologising to the world at large for the crime of existing, he's got it hard enough frankly. Of course, in a just world he'd be sent home on full pay whilst all this is going on, but
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Jul 24, 2020 11:29
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I also got my fudge, it's delicious (slightly squidgier than I was expecting, but still good). Box seems like it came through the postal service OK.
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Jul 24, 2020 11:33
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Just checking the Fundraiser for Corbyn (over £130k now). Guido and his camp followers were getting their knickers in a twist over it when it reached £40k. Top comment:  Not sure if locals will have absorbed the 24th July mask message - not sure if there is a rule about it in Wales strangely though Wales has been better than England up until now - but I'm waiting for a delivery 'before 9pm'. Huh. So I may not get chance to check.
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Jul 24, 2020 11:33
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Borrovan posted:A good friend of mine (who works at Tesco, funnily enough) can't wear a mask due to a facial deformity that makes it hard for him to breath. I've got mixed feelings about all of this, because on the one hand almost all non-mask-wearers are gonna be selfish gammons, but on the other I'd really prefer if my buddy didn't have to spend all day apologising to the world at large for the crime of existing, he's got it hard enough frankly. Yeah, the general rule of not judging because disabilities/medical things can be invisible is being tested by the anti-mask gammons, the American version of whom have latched onto the magic incantation "ADA", so expect that to take a nice battering regarding the credibility of actual disabled people  Borrovan posted:Of course, in a just world he'd be sent home on full pay whilst all this is going on, but As usual, socialism is the answer
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Jul 24, 2020 11:33
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Borrovan posted:A good friend of mine (who works at Tesco, funnily enough) can't wear a mask due to a facial deformity that makes it hard for him to breath. I've got mixed feelings about all of this, because on the one hand almost all non-mask-wearers are gonna be selfish gammons, but on the other I'd really prefer if my buddy didn't have to spend all day apologising to the world at large for the crime of existing, he's got it hard enough frankly. Could he possibly wear one of those clear face shields that stand away from the face?
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Jul 24, 2020 11:37
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Yvonmukluk posted:I also got my fudge, it's delicious (slightly squidgier than I was expecting, but still good). Box seems like it came through the postal service OK. Yeah- the warmer and somewhat humid weather has made this batch super gooey. I’d recommend keeping it in the fridge to enjoy it at its best. Shelf life won’t be affected, but It’ll be a bit less messy  Glad to hear the packaging is holding up better!
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Jul 24, 2020 11:41
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Camrath posted:Sadly that ended up not working out- I’m going to be refining the concept over the next few weeks and figuring where it went wrong. Package arrived today in good condition. To be honest it could've probably come in a smaller box without the red filling, but I don't know how easy/cost effective it is for you to get a bunch of different boxes. Can't wait to try it.
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Jul 24, 2020 11:45
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Could he possibly wear one of those clear face shields that stand away from the face? Just wanted to highlight that these kinds of issues exist, & I hope people bear them in mind
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Jul 24, 2020 11:46
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Bobstar posted:Yeah, the general rule of not judging because disabilities/medical things can be invisible is being tested by the anti-mask gammons, the American version of whom have latched onto the magic incantation "ADA", so expect that to take a nice battering regarding the credibility of actual disabled people I think that's been exacerbated by the scummy idea that a lot of disabled people are somehow 'making it up', or that everyone who uses a chair must be paralyzed from the waist down and be 100% reliant on it all day every day otherwise they're faking for benefits or some poo poo. Same with things that protect others like masks, you need more than "because I say so" otherwise the liberty don't mask on me lot will just go around abusing it, but one that has public trust in it, which this government is bad at. Also making allowances for other kinds of face covering if a mask isn't practical. But the gatekeepers should be doctors, not loving ATOS or whoever it is now. People who are trained in health. Also yes socialism.
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Jul 24, 2020 11:47
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Fudge report; Just finished the strawberry and cream fudge and it is amazing, would genuinely buy it if it was in the store. Could probably do with a smaller box and less of the red string stuff, but i don't ship items so im pretty ignorant of what you need to do
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Jul 24, 2020 11:55
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Borrovan posted:A good friend of mine (who works at Tesco, funnily enough) can't wear a mask due to a facial deformity that makes it hard for him to breath. I've got mixed feelings about all of this, because on the one hand almost all non-mask-wearers are gonna be selfish gammons, but on the other I'd really prefer if my buddy didn't have to spend all day apologising to the world at large for the crime of existing, he's got it hard enough frankly. Absolutely 100% in favour of people with a legitimate reason not to wear one not having to. Then if you saw someone without you you’d go aha, this chap’s got something going on that means he can’t, cool. As it is most of the time people without masks are full on gammons who think it’s a hoax or impinging on their freedoms, and it’s safe to assume they’ve also been walking round for the last three months coughing into each other’s mouths and wanking each other off on the park without gloves on or whatever. Sorry that your friend gets lumped into that group but if I have to go out, I’m keeping well away from folks not wearing masks.
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Guavanaut posted:I think when it comes to things that are actual scarce resource or public health issues, it's okay to have some gatekeeping, just because assholes exist. A guy I know has polio, which can be highly variable, like one week you can walk with a cane and the next you need a wheelchair and leg braces, and on cane days he'd sometimes get lovely looks for parking in a disabled spot (and also possibly being African and fairly young and parking in a disabled spot), but he had a badge and a legit reason for it. If there were no badges you'd get a bunch of people abusing it though. That's a good analogy, because in the parking space example, if gatekeeping needs to exist (due to scarcity, as you say), then it should exist at the blue-badge-issuing level, not the yelling at people for not being sufficiently paralyzed level when they park their blue-badged car. But the equivalent for masks would be hanging a blue badge around someone's neck on a cable lock, or some other kind of "I'm disabled" marker, which would be...not great, so it's much harder.
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