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Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Bobstar posted:

That's a good analogy, because in the parking space example, if gatekeeping needs to exist (due to scarcity, as you say), then it should exist at the blue-badge-issuing level, not the yelling at people for not being sufficiently paralyzed level when they park their blue-badged car. But the equivalent for masks would be hanging a blue badge around someone's neck on a cable lock, or some other kind of "I'm disabled" marker, which would be...not great, so it's much harder.
Some shops are doing a lanyard type thing if you have a legitimate reason not to wear a mask, but it's all self-declaration.

I suppose the idea is that the type of gammon who is going to go around yelling that they won't be muzzled by the authoritarian socialist Boris Johnson won't want to wear a lanyard saying "I have an underlying condition" either, but it's not ideal.

But yeah random members of the public shouldn't be judging how disabled someone is or isn't, but I'm still staying 2m away from non-masked people.

e: 3:20 smoke weed er'ry daylight savings.

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Camrath
Mar 19, 2004

The UKMT Fudge Baron


Miftan posted:

Package arrived today in good condition. To be honest it could've probably come in a smaller box without the red filling, but I don't know how easy/cost effective it is for you to get a bunch of different boxes. Can't wait to try it.

Iirc you only had the vegan option?

Be very interested in your thoughts on it. That batch came out more like tablet (which is odd given how literally /every/ other one did- I suspect the different types of fat in the base ingredients are the reason).

And yeah, I did feel your box was a bit too empty lol. Basically about 95% of my orders are for 5+ bags, hence the larger boxes- also the brown boxes are an order of magnitude sturdier than the white ones from previous batches, but because they’re from thicker cardboard they’re also bigger.

Also, I just realised. Quite by accident I genuinely have created what is effectively UKMT.xls, just from organising my orders over the months..

floofyscorp
Feb 12, 2007

Sanford posted:

if I have to go out, I’m keeping well away from folks not wearing masks.

This is a good idea in general I guess, regardless of why they're not wearing a mask. People who can't wear a mask are entirely reliant on social distancing and hygiene to stay safe, so you keeping your distance is helpful to them as well as you.

Unkempt
May 24, 2003

...perfect spiral, scientists are still figuring it out...
Although I'm too far away to enjoy the fudge personally, it's always nice to see the monthly fudge cycle in the thread. It's nature's way.

Camrath
Mar 19, 2004

The UKMT Fudge Baron


Unkempt posted:

Although I'm too far away to enjoy the fudge personally, it's always nice to see the monthly fudge cycle in the thread. It's nature's way.

Fudge cycle gives an interesting mental image..

I am however making plans about fudge trucks in the next 12-18 months if things continue on their current trajectory though!

Saros
Dec 29, 2009

Its almost like we're a Bureaucracy, in space!

I set sail for the Planet of Lab Requisitions!!

Googling fudge bicycle returned some uh, interesting images.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Camrath posted:

Fudge cycle gives an interesting mental image..
I'm imagining an epic mythological opera about fudge written by an antisemite.

This is terrible for Jeremy Corbyn.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Guavanaut posted:

I'm imagining an epic mythological opera about fudge written by an antisemite.

This is terrible for Jeremy Corbyn.

Der Ringe Das Karamelung.

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!
Anyone know anything about 3-D printing?
Could you input an equation y=sqrt(x) for example and generate a hollow 'beaker' with that equation as the form of the outline? (I'm thinking of 3-D objects to explore volumes of revolution*. Can't see anything online.)

This type of revolution:



Not this type:

Camrath
Mar 19, 2004

The UKMT Fudge Baron


Jedit posted:

Der Ringe Das Karamelung.

Karamelung sounds like a crippling disease suffered by fudgemakers due to inhaling huge amounts of sugar vapour..

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes

Camrath posted:

Also, I just realised. Quite by accident I genuinely have created what is effectively UKMT.xls, just from organising my orders over the months..

start selling monster munch next month and then from people's preferred flavours you'll have all the necessary information to finally purge the Wrong Flavour Likers once and for all

Camrath
Mar 19, 2004

The UKMT Fudge Baron


Angepain posted:

start selling monster munch next month and then from people's preferred flavours you'll have all the necessary information to finally purge the Wrong Flavour Likers once and for all

As a member of the Roast Beef Tendency (ML) I’m not sure this would be a popular move to make..

TheRat
Aug 30, 2006

https://twitter.com/stephane_ulrich/status/1286589545908183040

What fresh bullshit is this? Since when is calling someone a judas anti-semitic?

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


TheRat posted:

What fresh bullshit is this? Since when is calling someone a judas anti-semitic?

Well, you see, "This man is a senior officer in the NEU, of Red Labour and partner of a current candidate for the NEC."

ForkBanger
Jul 19, 2007

Camrath posted:

Also, I just realised. Quite by accident I genuinely have created what is effectively UKMT.xls, just from organising my orders over the months..

Feed it into the Markov bot to generate posts and orders.

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.
breathing is an antisemitic trope if you're a socialist, op

bessantj
Jul 27, 2004


Camrath posted:

Fudge cycle gives an interesting mental image..

I am however making plans about fudge trucks in the next 12-18 months if things continue on their current trajectory though!

You said you were moving to a lovely spot in the country, do you still have good fudge delivery access?

TheRat posted:

https://twitter.com/stephane_ulrich/status/1286589545908183040

What fresh bullshit is this? Since when is calling someone a judas anti-semitic?

Stephane Savary points to a seagull flying passed "Anti-Semitic."

Alan G
Dec 27, 2003
Fudge arrived! Last month was slightly squashed but fine this time round and box is probably reusable so a bonus. Now it’s in the fridge and I’m trying to focus on something not-fudge to have as a meal later.

justcola
May 22, 2004

La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Anyone know anything about 3-D printing?
Could you input an equation y=sqrt(x) for example and generate a hollow 'beaker' with that equation as the form of the outline? (I'm thinking of 3-D objects to explore volumes of revolution*. Can't see anything online.)

This type of revolution:



Not this type:



This is possible, though I haven't got that far myself. You can use Blender (open source 3D programme) and Python to script any shape you want.

https://www.mertl-research.at/ceonwiki/doku.php?id=software:kicad:3d_package_with_blender

I imagine there's a plugin that might make it more straightforward - maybe Extra Objects? My knowledge of maths isn't good enough to know if this what you want, but as every point on a 3d model can be (is) represented by a set of coordinates and these coordinates can be manipulated from other formulas I imagine this would work.

In terms of 3D printing, you can easily export files from Blender to be used in 3D printing. There's various guides online as well as functions within Blender to make each shape more efficient (such as make a mesh wireframe then expanding each edge to create a honeycomb type structure for example)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzcNH5pvd7Y

justcola fucked around with this message at 13:10 on Jul 24, 2020

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Anyone know anything about 3-D printing?
Could you input an equation y=sqrt(x) for example and generate a hollow 'beaker' with that equation as the form of the outline? (I'm thinking of 3-D objects to explore volumes of revolution*. Can't see anything online.)

This type of revolution:



Not this type:


Normally you'd build what you were 3D printing as a 3D model in FreeCAD or something. You could use something similar to Part.SurfaceOfRevolution(curve, center, axis) to make a surface of revolution from a set of points. I think FreeCAD supports some mathematical functions (mostly conic sections) as the input to those, but you might have to crank the handle by hand to get the value of the points you want to map.

I don't have a 3D printer but from what I can tell FreeCAD (or your preferred CAD system) should be able to export to a solid format that the printer will attempt to make something from.

This might help:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eWlU2Ddl6I

TheRat posted:

https://twitter.com/stephane_ulrich/status/1286589545908183040

What fresh bullshit is this? Since when is calling someone a judas anti-semitic?
A lot of these cliches are informed by Christianity, and it turns out most of the history of Christianity was about turning a weird Jewish cult into a popular (and often antisemitic) faith. The first people calling Judas a traitor for selling a Jewish man out to the Romans were themselves Jews, but the character of Judas has been turned by the Christian middle ages into a caricature of 'The Jew' so it's not a great look.

But the cliches are so prevalent that I've even heard Orthodox Jews using Christian metaphor with dodgy past, so it's nowhere near up there with 'Zio' or 99% of the content of /pol/.

Also the Prime Minister literally wrote in a book that Jews are obsessed by money, but we don't talk about that.

Camrath
Mar 19, 2004

The UKMT Fudge Baron


bessantj posted:

You said you were moving to a lovely spot in the country, do you still have good fudge delivery access?

Genuinely, one of the requirements was a suitably large and equipped kitchen with the facilities and storage space I need as orders keep growing month on month.

And the place we’re looking at has a post office closer to it than my London pad does (I live on an estate that despite being in the middle of a prosperous suburb manages to be almost perfectly equidistant- 1.1 miles- from almost all points of interest, shops and services).

BizarroAzrael
Apr 6, 2006

"That must weigh heavily on your soul. Let me purge it for you."

Camrath posted:

Genuinely, one of the requirements was a suitably large and equipped kitchen with the facilities and storage space I need as orders keep growing month on month.

And the place we’re looking at has a post office closer to it than my London pad does (I live on an estate that despite being in the middle of a prosperous suburb manages to be almost perfectly equidistant- 1.1 miles- from almost all points of interest, shops and services).

Peckham then.

Bobstar
Feb 8, 2006

KartooshFace, you are not responding efficiently!

Camrath posted:

Karamelung sounds like a crippling disease suffered by fudgemakers due to inhaling huge amounts of sugar vapour..

I remember being taken to a "treacle mine" as a child. A quick google shows it was Sabden. Anyone else remember these?

Camrath
Mar 19, 2004

The UKMT Fudge Baron


Bobstar posted:

I remember being taken to a "treacle mine" as a child. A quick google shows it was Sabden. Anyone else remember these?



I thought those were something invented by the great Pterry..

BizarroAzrael posted:

Peckham then.

God no, I was raised (by probably racist parents) to believe that south of the river was an absolute no-go zone and hadn’t quite broken that programming when I bought this place.

Not So Fast
Dec 27, 2007


TheRat posted:

https://twitter.com/stephane_ulrich/status/1286589545908183040

What fresh bullshit is this? Since when is calling someone a judas anti-semitic?

30 pieces of silver is a very forced reference that you can only think they're trying it on purpose. I don't see why some people can't just say "this is bad" without making forced errors like this.

Gort
Aug 18, 2003

Good day what ho cup of tea
So is Corbyn actually being sued or is this legal fund stuff just pre-emptive or what

TheRat
Aug 30, 2006

Not So Fast posted:

30 pieces of silver is a very forced reference that you can only think they're trying it on purpose. I don't see why some people can't just say "this is bad" without making forced errors like this.

I've literally never heard anyone use it or reference it in any other context than betraying someone. Calling someone a Judas might be the most recognized cliche out there.

Saros
Dec 29, 2009

Its almost like we're a Bureaucracy, in space!

I set sail for the Planet of Lab Requisitions!!

Ahoy UKMT-er's since I got quite a response to my job post last time and we even ended out hiring a fellow goon I thought i'd put this one in here. Looking for someone with a life science/pharma background who has some familiarity with databases for a Scientific analyst role. Details are here. Shoot me a PM with questions or hit me up on the discord.

justcola
May 22, 2004

La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo

A few months back I got a new housemate and he's been doing my head in. He sits in his room all day playing games and shouting to his pals on his mic, never cleans up and the rare times I see him he talks and talks about anime or games or whatever, there's no real dialogue.

I realised this morning a lot of what I dislike in him is what I dislike in myself and have made attempts to improve on over time, so to see him totally revel in his lifestyle is at odds with my own ideas of something I wanted to move away from. So realising this I am trying to show him more compassion and understanding and be more reflective on why I wanted to move away from that sort of thing in the first place.

I feel like this is the right way but was wondering if there's something I'm missing. I've tried a lot to do more stuff together, but if I cook us tea he just takes it to his room or if I suggest some activity to do he's always busy. I really want to get along with him as we live together, but I feel I'm putting all the effort in and he just doesn't care

(apologies for the e/n type stuff but it's getting to the stage where I try to be out of the house as much as possible which doesn't help during a pandemic)

Zalakwe
Jun 4, 2007
Likes Cake, Hates Hamsters



justcola posted:

A few months back I got a new housemate and he's been doing my head in. He sits in his room all day playing games and shouting to his pals on his mic, never cleans up and the rare times I see him he talks and talks about anime or games or whatever, there's no real dialogue.

I realised this morning a lot of what I dislike in him is what I dislike in myself and have made attempts to improve on over time, so to see him totally revel in his lifestyle is at odds with my own ideas of something I wanted to move away from. So realising this I am trying to show him more compassion and understanding and be more reflective on why I wanted to move away from that sort of thing in the first place.

I feel like this is the right way but was wondering if there's something I'm missing. I've tried a lot to do more stuff together, but if I cook us tea he just takes it to his room or if I suggest some activity to do he's always busy. I really want to get along with him as we live together, but I feel I'm putting all the effort in and he just doesn't care

(apologies for the e/n type stuff but it's getting to the stage where I try to be out of the house as much as possible which doesn't help during a pandemic)

Ask lots of questions when you see him. Listen if he answers, repeat the answer back then ask another question. Even better if you can be doing something alongside him at the same time.

It's hard. Not you though.

Zalakwe fucked around with this message at 14:41 on Jul 24, 2020

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008
If he doesn't want to change, then there's a good chance he won't end up doing anything differently, however hard you try.
I agree that if there's a good opportunity to have some interaction with him, it's a good way of building a relationship with him, but that's a two-way street

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!
3d printing revolution chat:

Thanks folks. I just need to know whether it's possible not actually do it (though that would be cool!)

Corbyn being sued chat:

It's preemptive at the moment. I read somewhere - maybe even on here - that one of the reasons Corbyn hasn't gone to court over any of the BS to date despite the desire of many to see him take such action is concern over the cost.

I see a lot of anti-Corbyn comments that he is 'rich' and doesn't need the money to fight a court case yada yada. As he probably does give a lot of his money away and as the 'wealth' is that house which apparently the neighbour's home is valued at £1m after lots of extension work so the deduction made is that Corbyn can afford a £1m house (which probably cost about £25k when he bought it) and is therefore very wealthy, while deliberately ignoring the fact that these sort of legal cases can run to £'00000s if they're not won.

The fund shows that he has the support of people because if he is sued he won't have the choice about going to court or not and may still end up with a ginormous bill.


Flatmate chat:

I think you are within your rights to ask him to wash up his stuff, basic hygiene stuff. When I lived in a houseshare (7 of us and the kitchen consisting of a cooker on the landing and a fridge in the living room) one of the inhabitants never washed up, so one of the other guys took to collecting all that guys dirty pans etc, going in 'dirty guy's' room, pulling back his bed covers and dumping the dirty pans all over his sheets. It escalated from there on in.

I wouldn't push him for 'small talk' chat responses. Just be pleasant.


Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 13:50 on Jul 24, 2020

blunt
Jul 7, 2005

Did you have any conversations with him about the household dynamic before he moved in?

I'm asking this specifically because (pre-pandemic) some of my housemates would have probably described me like that, but from my perspective between an office job and a pretty active social life the times that I was actually home I would absolutely just want to sit in my room, have some peace, enjoy my hobbies/game and have a break from the effort that being social requires.

I guess my point is try and establish if you both have the expectations before you make any grand gestures/efforts towards him, else you might just end up annoying him and making him uncomfortable in his home. Your housemates are your housemates, your friends are your friends. There might be some crossover over time, but it shouldn't be assumed that anybody who moves in is going to develop into a full friendship.

(That's absolutely not to say that you don't also have the same rights to be comfortable in your home etc ... Balance)

Edit: the pan stuff is gross though, if he's not maintaining basic hygiene standards in a shared house then the rest of you should definitely have a word with him. Probably best to so that together (he'll feel singled out but he won't point his anger at an individual housemate)

blunt fucked around with this message at 14:14 on Jul 24, 2020

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting

TheRat posted:

https://twitter.com/stephane_ulrich/status/1286589545908183040

What fresh bullshit is this? Since when is calling someone a judas anti-semitic?

He's deleted it and apologised.

TheRat
Aug 30, 2006

NotJustANumber99 posted:

He's deleted it and apologised.

That's the obvious direction to take to save one's career. Doesn't make it right.

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

TheRat posted:

That's the obvious direction to take to save one's career. Doesn't make it right.

Indeed.
I haven't seen those tweets because I'm blocking myself (so I can't even see them if posted on here unless an image).

I saw yet another polemic yesterday about how accusing people of being 'puppet masters' is (a) anti-semitic if they are jewish (b) rhetorical anti-semitism if they are not.

FFS.

Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

EULER'VE TO SEE IT VENN SOMEONE CALLS IT THE WRONG THING AND PROVOKES MY WRATH

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Indeed.
I haven't seen those tweets because I'm blocking myself (so I can't even see them if posted on here unless an image).

I saw yet another polemic yesterday about how accusing people of being 'puppet masters' is (a) anti-semitic if they are jewish (b) rhetorical anti-semitism if they are not.

FFS.

Poor Jim Henson :ohdear:

edit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puppet_Master No mention of anti-semitism on wikipedia entry for Puppet Master so Wikipedia is therefore anti-semitic.

TheRat
Aug 30, 2006

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Indeed.
I haven't seen those tweets because I'm blocking myself (so I can't even see them if posted on here unless an image).

I saw yet another polemic yesterday about how accusing people of being 'puppet masters' is (a) anti-semitic if they are jewish (b) rhetorical anti-semitism if they are not.

FFS.

Always knew I hated Metallica

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Saying 'beyond the pale' is antisemitic because one etymology is the Pale of Settlement in Russia. Beyond the pale there are Jews.

But as Miftan once said, if you weren't allowed to say anything that had antisemitic overtones in the 19th century, that would cover pretty much everything.

Being unable to understand metaphor or art was a common antisemitic trope in the 19th century, to the extent that you'd get forewords in books saying "this book is not for the Jew" and if any Jews complained then haha that just proves that they couldn't understand that this was just a metaphor for "not for people who can't appreciate metaphor or art" checkmate, but that doesn't mean that if I say that Stephane Savary can't appreciate metaphor then I'm being antisemitic.

Except it probably does now if you're on the left. :sigh:

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sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth
Shops were bedlam. No one gives a gently caress. And it's the people wearing some sort of PPE that are the worst. Woman with mask over mouth not nose pushing past people. Woman with gloves running up to have my trolley before I put it back.

England definitely won this round. Wales getting careless.

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