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I like that Tink still gets people riled up
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Jul 21, 2020 00:09
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He still writes on twitter, but the only engagements he gets is anti-woke people who generally agree with him, which makes it all kind of pointless.
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Jul 21, 2020 01:36
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He's a really good grifter.
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Jul 21, 2020 05:16
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Funny how kyeyune sees himself as a communist but mostly writes for liberal/right wing papers...almost like he doesnt really care and just calls himself whatever. His opinion and takes are mostly dumb as hell, and his own blog is a pain to read.
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Jul 21, 2020 06:51
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So apparently Tegnell has decided that swedes are immune to covid-19 now despite being unable to provide any evidence for why that is the case.
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Jul 21, 2020 15:38
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Alhazred posted:So apparently Tegnell has decided that swedes are immune to covid-19 now despite being unable to provide any evidence for why that is the case. Link? When did he say that?
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Jul 21, 2020 16:11
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I guess they mean this https://www.dn.se/nyheter/sverige/anders-tegnell-immunitet-finns-aven-utan-antikroppar/ ?
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Jul 21, 2020 16:12
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Huh that's just saying they haven't seen anyone get corona twice. Anyway I wonder how much of the decline in corona cases are due to everyone being on holiday rn and schools being closed for the summer. I can definitely see a second wave sometime in the beginning of September when everyone is back at work and in school and hanging out indoors.
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Jul 21, 2020 16:18
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Alhazred posted:So apparently Tegnell has decided that swedes are immune to covid-19 now despite being unable to provide any evidence for why that is the case. So that's whey he keeps hailing Nurgle.
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Jul 21, 2020 17:29
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https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN24M25Lquote:Swedish epidemiology boss says questioned COVID-19 strategy seems to be working Hey, guys only seven deaths recently. It means our strategy is working! What's the actual swedish public view on Tegnell now?
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Jul 21, 2020 19:13
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Jeff Fatwood posted:What's the actual swedish public view on Tegnell now? What I can tell, the people who were mad at him at still mad, the hero worshippers have settled down. But it's vacation time, everyone is out and about enjoying the summer. So mostly I think people don't pay much attention these days.
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Jul 22, 2020 00:52
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Nah no one cares now, most people i talk to dont read the news anymore since they got sick of daily death reports/is depressed cause they got no money/binge drinking. Outta sight Outta mind. Sucks tho since we are going full fascist currently. In other news gbg police chief Erik Nord attacks universities and goes full Trump. https://twitter.com/AENO98/status/1284453907574521856?s=20 Mailed the staff of my university and asked for their opinion about this, and got a "eh its not us he attacks, We like debates, idgaf" answer.
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Jul 22, 2020 08:11
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So the strategy is working if the strategy was indeed "make everyone so numb and depressed that they don't want to go outside anymore".  Zombiepop posted:
Appreciate our boys in blue going full cultural marxism conspiracy.
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Jul 22, 2020 09:39
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Dont worry Mr. Nord has done internet research so his opinions are correct and good, not like those lousy academics who do science for a living.  When asked to present his own research or sources he just stopped answering. I contacted justitieombudsmannen, they probably wont do poo poo tho, since its the internet, I guess the police dont have to be neutral anymore.
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Jul 22, 2020 12:55
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SplitSoul posted:You just need to look at its founders to see why they're poo poo. (And lose all respect you might've had for Morten Grunwald and Bent Fabricius-Bjerre.) BFB is a shithead? (I know nothing about him other than that he composed the Olsen Banden theme and the music to Flåklypa Grand Prix.)
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Jul 22, 2020 20:35
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Zombiepop posted:Nah no one cares now, most people i talk to dont read the news anymore since they got sick of daily death reports/is depressed cause they got no money/binge drinking. Outta sight Outta mind. Sucks tho since we are going full fascist currently. I committed the cardinal mistake of reading the comments to that tweet, and the amount of alt-righters and similar ilk that've jumped in to defend him are depressing. I know it's probably a question of a small group making lots of noise, but... urgh. And it's particularly unfunny seeing someone complain about leftists in general only to check their profile and discover screeds about cultural marxism and similar. "I'm not racist, but...". It is nice company he keeps, Erik Nord.
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Jul 23, 2020 12:26
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Government Handjob posted:BFB is a shithead? (I know nothing about him other than that he composed the Olsen Banden theme and the music to Flåklypa Grand Prix.) Insofar as he was one of the people who founded CEPOS and is responsible for the cancer it unleashed into the heart of the Danish public debate, yes.
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Jul 23, 2020 13:45
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I am start to get a bit worried that the revisionist "shutdown was an overreaction" media blitz is going to cause trouble when/if we get a second wave in Denmark. It was dumb and wrong that the government explicitly cited advice from experts and authorities as the reason for the shutdown - that was at best only partial truth. The health authorities claim that they did not oppose the shutdown, but the communication from those days show a different situation, where they were strongly arguing in favor of a Swedish strategy. For some reason the media are still angry at the shutdown and want to make sure a new wave is handled via the Swedish strategy. So we will probably have to wait until hospitals start having trouble coping with admissions before anything happens. I will be surprised if we don't see schools, universities and nightclubs re-open in August - alongside soaring infection rates. When the out-of-control growth becomes obvious - there will be a period of "appeal to individual responsibility" and some weak mask regulation. Some will start working from home again. Some will withdraw kids from school, and if they're on welfare possibly get financially punished for doing so. Then as hospitals start raising red flags and saying they simply can't cope, there will be a repeat of the shutdown. Bah.
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Jul 24, 2020 09:41
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Jeff Fatwood posted:Hey, guys only seven deaths recently. It means our strategy is working!
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Jul 24, 2020 11:55
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We'll see what happens in september when general vacations are over and schools back up. If there's going to be a resurgence (big IF it's starting to feel like) then it's going to be around there.
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Jul 24, 2020 12:47
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One thing that works to our advantage there is that many will have spent their quarantine period in almost quarantine so hopefully several infection centers will be reduced/removed.
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Jul 24, 2020 16:26
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The gyms are as packed as ever so I don't think everyone went away. Who wants to even go on an expensive vacation during a pandemic?
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Jul 24, 2020 16:47
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Zzulu posted:The gyms are as packed as ever so I don't think everyone went away. Who wants to even go on an expensive vacation during a pandemic? Tickets to Greece all sold out so I guess plenty of people. It's very dumb.
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Jul 24, 2020 19:13
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Yeah I cant go out dancing at home but if I was rich enough I could travel abroad by plane and go clubbing there instead. gently caress the government, gently caress the rich.
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Jul 24, 2020 19:22
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MiddleOne posted:We'll see what happens in september when general vacations are over and schools back up. If there's going to be a resurgence (big IF it's starting to feel like) then it's going to be around there.
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Jul 24, 2020 21:05
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Why do you think that's a big if? What has changed to make a resurgence unlikely? The only thing that would make Sweden’s corona strategy to not be an abject failure would be if the second wave hits Sweden less compared to other countries. Although I don’t know if 5000 dead old people can count as a success in any case.
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Jul 24, 2020 21:16
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Why do you think that's a big if? What has changed to make a resurgence unlikely? I don't see why we wouldn't have had a resurgence already too. Obviously something is up, but it's impossible to know what given our current information.
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Jul 24, 2020 21:57
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What's the deal with the income differences between the US and Sweden? People in the US be like "No one can live on $45k a year!" But 450.000 SEK is a pretty decent income here. On top of that Americans pay a lot less taxes and most stuff seems to be cheaper or cost the same? Where does all the money go?
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Jul 26, 2020 06:15
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Katt posted:What's the deal with the income differences between the US and Sweden? Sweden is a country where you don’t see all the costs and benefits you have due to the tax system. Like arbetsgivaravgiften which is 30% on your salary or childcare which you pay 10% of the actual cost. Americans as far as I understand pay enormous amounts for school, healthcare and insurance, where especially their healthcare is among the most expensive per capita without the same reach as in Eu countries. I could wish for more transparency in how the Swedish tax money is used, but comparisons with a country like US is kinda hard to do.
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Jul 26, 2020 06:37
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Looking at the numbers for just America and Sweden, the take home pay after taxes for the average person is: America: 67% Sweden: 49% So far America looking pretty good. But then you add child- and healthcare costs, which in total after various subsidies is something like: America: 23% / 18% of average wage Sweden: 5% / 1% of average wage For a couple earning an average wage with 2 kids. Leaving the two at: America: 47% Sweden: 46% And healthcare is only for insurance in the case of the US, while for Sweden it includes everything you're gonna pay for. Americans still have a Sword of Damocles hanging over them in terms of healthcare after paying for insurance, and then there's tuition and poo poo on top of it. The unpredictability of healthcare costs is probably the bigger issue though, hence the many bankruptcies from medical debt. Also, those numbers assume average wages, which are higher than $45k/year. Couples in the age group that has kids who need childcare will have a larger portion of their wages being eaten up by child/healthcare because it's a fixed cost while their wages are lower on average. Though perhaps this is somewhat offset by higher sales taxes in Sweden.
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Jul 26, 2020 07:17
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Looking at the numbers for just America and Sweden, the take home pay after taxes for the average person is: And then the vacation system haven’t even been mentioned. Working with US companies during the summer is always interesting.
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Jul 26, 2020 08:02
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Visiting Americans in my experience are usually surprised to hear how "low" incomes in Northern Europe are, but then Americans who can afford to take a three week holiday to Europe probably aren't very representative. I think average (mean) incomes are a bit misleading in this case, and make it especially hard to compare a country with huge income inequality like the US with Nordic countries where the income distribution is relatively flat. The median income is maybe more useful, and there Sweden appears to be comparable to or slightly higher than the US depending on exactly what you're measuring: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Median_income#Gross_median_household_income_by_country That isn't to contradict what others have said, though - that stuff where America is not really a functional society surely hugely increases the cost of what you'd like to consider a reasonable standard of living.
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Jul 26, 2020 10:27
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Katt posted:What's the deal with the income differences between the US and Sweden?
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Jul 26, 2020 11:18
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America has essentially privatised taxation, at least from a Nordic perspective. The official tax number may be lower, but the real number is probably higher, though you get to opt out of you don't need to live or something. Whereas in Scandinavia, only the rich get to opt out of paint taxes. Also I don't think anyone mentioned student debt and such. I just paid off the rest of my Danish SU-lån, totalling 6000 dkk, down from 20.000... I'm 31 and debt free now...
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Jul 26, 2020 11:44
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So if you rarely get sick and have no kids, America seems optimal
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Jul 26, 2020 12:30
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It’s also missing that having a car is nearly mandatory (except in certain parts of large cities) and that auto insurance is fairly expensive, because they’ve priced in having to pay someone’s medical bills. Also student loans in the states only cover tuition/books and not housing/living expenses unless you live on-campus, but that’s a minority of students at most universities. And again that’s not touching the vacation situation.
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Jul 26, 2020 12:47
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Zzulu posted:So if you rarely get sick and have no kids, America seems optimal
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Jul 26, 2020 15:22
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SplitSoul posted:Insofar as he was one of the people who founded CEPOS and is responsible for the cancer it unleashed into the heart of the Danish public debate, yes. And he just kicked the bucket. I prefer to think of him as a brilliant composer, less so as an old white dude (and big-time landlord) with predictable old white dude political views. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNhwNhOXsIk KozmoNaut fucked around with this message at 09:32 on Jul 28, 2020 |
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