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Chiming in to say it's really loving bad and a complete waste of time. I didn't mind the first episode but everything goes to hell for the Mecha-G episode. Just absolute trash.
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Jul 26, 2020 15:31
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The only really good parts of the anime honestly was the design concepts and artistic direction. I honestly really enjoyed Godzilla itself in the movie, including the stunning new way his beam attack was utilized. It's really a shame that the whole film trilogy is just incredibly meh. It's really a shame especially since it came right off the heels of the amazing Shin Godzilla.
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Jul 26, 2020 16:03
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Dedicated anime watchers have a much higher tolerance for boredom than your average human, hence a lack of hatred for anime godzilla.
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Jul 26, 2020 20:06
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I will say, what little Godzilla there is in those movies are always the best things about those movies. You could say the same about other Godzilla films, but this time you have the rest of the story being aggressively awful at you instead of whatever
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Jul 26, 2020 20:12
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Gripweed posted:Yeah when I think about it it makes sense that Godzilla: Industrial Society and Its Future isn't a big crowd pleaser. Every scene that isn't a mediocre fight scene is boring exposition. Have some self respect and watch movies with some craft.
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Jul 26, 2020 20:19
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I watched Kaiju Mono. I can't recommend it. The movie does have it's strong points. The fights are OK, and having a (clearly actual IRL) wrestling announcer prooviding play by play commentary is great. Some of the jokes are pretty good. I audibly chuckled at the soldiers deploying a massive pair of shorts for the guy to wear after he gets giant. But for every joke I enjoyed, there were like five that got just zero response from me. The movie is super low energy. Whenever a fight isn't happening it just draaaags. What killed it for me, and I think is going to kill it for most western viewers, is the cameos. At first it's not a problem. I could tell that there were a lot of cameos. just from how memorable bit characters looked and how they're shown, I was like "clearly that's someone, and if I knew who it was I'd be like 'hey, it's that person!'". Whatever, it's only a problem in as such as the movie creators clearly thought that the viewer would be entertained by all these cameos and I don't recognize these people so there is significantly less entertainment value in this movie for me. It only becomes a big problem at the end. The entire climax of the movie is built around two major cameos. Just seeing these guys on screen is clearly supposed to be a big applause moment, I'm supposed to be whooping and hollering when these guys show up. But one I have no idea who the gently caress he is, and the other I actually do know who he is, they say his name, they say that he was in Ultraman, He's the guy from Ultraman who was also in UltraSeven, the least memorable member of the SSSP, I know this guy. But the problem is that that's not why he's famous in Japan. It turns out, he's most famous in Japan for his long running radio show. And his cameo is based entirely on his persona from his radio show. Where I guess he's like, a sex symbol to older women? That's what his cameo is based on, older women love this guy. The scientist announces that the monster is the equivalent to a 70 year old woman, Sandayu Dokumamushi pulls up, gives the main guy advice on how to treat older women, and that's it, movie complete. Regular listeners to TBS are rolling in the aisles from laughter, I am not. So yeah, can't recommend Kaiju Mono. Unless you are a big fan of both Japanese wrestling and Japanese radio.
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Jul 26, 2020 20:22
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Honestly part of the problem with the anime Godzilla is it's a trilogy? The protagonist's sole motivation is "I want to kill Godzilla!" and they're gonna do a big plan to kill Godzilla but you know they can't succeed, and that sort of futility would be allowable if the protagonist changed at all or learned anything, or if there were interesting sideplots, but no. The human and alien characters are way too thin to carry the screen time when the monsters aren't there. Granted I still haven't gotten to the finale. But Part 2 was really demoralizing in that it was just the same arc as the first one all over again, albeit with a failed attempt at a Big Emotional Moment at the end. (And a "twist" that isn't really anything once you've seen like the poster art for the third movie.) Maxwell Lord fucked around with this message at 20:28 on Jul 26, 2020 |
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Jul 26, 2020 20:25
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Terrible Opinions posted:Dedicated anime watchers have a much higher tolerance for boredom than your average human, hence a lack of hatred for anime godzilla. No, I'm an anime watcher and I couldn't make it a quarter of the way through the first one.
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Jul 26, 2020 20:26
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Tezcatlipoca posted:Every scene that isn't a mediocre fight scene is boring exposition. Have some self respect and watch movies with some craft. Boring exposition owns. Sci-fi needs more boring exposition Maxwell Lord posted:Honestly part of the problem with the anime Godzilla is it's a trilogy? The protagonist's sole motivation is "I want to kill Godzilla!" and they're gonna do a big plan to kill Godzilla but you know they can't succeed, and that sort of futility would be allowable if the protagonist changed at all or learned anything, or if there were interesting sideplots, but no. The human and alien characters are way too thin to carry the screen time when the monsters aren't there. I won't comment on the third movie since you haven't seen it yet, but in the second movie the plan doesn't fail, the main guy rejects it. He is presented with an opportunity to kill Godzilla, but he rejects it because it's worse than Godzilla. The main guy has an unshakable desire to kill Godzilla. His plan fails in the first movie, he rejects a different plan in the second one because it's worse than Godzilla, and then stuff happens in the third one and his arc is resolved in, IMO, a very satisfying, albeit quite grim, of course, manner.
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Jul 26, 2020 20:35
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Gripweed posted:Boring exposition owns. Sci-fi needs more boring exposition I mean that's the problem, if he only changes in the last movie that's two movies of him just Wile E. Coyote-ing himself but played without irony or comedy. If his whole arc is "wants to kill Godzilla, realizes that he can't and doing so would make things even worse for what's left of humanity"... you can do that in like 90 minutes. If the only interesting change happens in the final act then you have a problem with your first two acts.
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Jul 26, 2020 20:41
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Maxwell Lord posted:I mean that's the problem, if he only changes in the last movie that's two movies of him just Wile E. Coyote-ing himself but played without irony or comedy. If his whole arc is "wants to kill Godzilla, realizes that he can't and doing so would make things even worse for what's left of humanity"... you can do that in like 90 minutes. If the only interesting change happens in the final act then you have a problem with your first two acts. Oh no, he doesn't change in the third movie. I probably shouldn't have said arc, it really is a straight line. But in the course of the trilogy he realizes what the actual limits are, what he can't do and what he's unwilling to do.
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Jul 26, 2020 20:46
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Gripweed posted:Oh no, he doesn't change in the third movie. I probably shouldn't have said arc, it really is a straight line. But in the course of the trilogy he realizes what the actual limits are, what he can't do and what he's unwilling to do. Yeah trust us, that dumbass doesn't ever improve or change. he does leave his pregnant wife behind to raise their kid by herself to deal with a non problem that wouldn't be a thing for loving decades though, because he is the worst possible person
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Burkion posted:Yeah trust us, that dumbass doesn't ever improve or change. The whole thing is that he still wants to kill Godzilla. He still hates Godzilla. But he knows that he can't kill Godzilla with his own power, he knows that the technology to destroy Godzilla would transform humanity into something worse, and he knows the monster that could kill Godzilla is an unthinkable god from another dimension and to embrace it would be to become a hosed up death worshiping monster. He loves humanity too much to take the steps necessary to kill Godzilla, but he hates Godzilla too much to live in Godzilla's world.
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Jul 26, 2020 21:30
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I'm loving tired of this anime talk. I want to hear everyones take on the animated series from 1998 and the other from 1978. And more importanly why do we get a Godzilla animated show every 20 years?
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Jul 26, 2020 22:40
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Just Offscreen posted:I'm loving tired of this anime talk. 1978 is amazing for all the Hanna Barbera reasons it could be. 1998 is an updated take on the Hanna Barbera show, no seriously just take a look at how its structured, that has some neat and fun episodes but a lot of chaff no one remembers.
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Jul 26, 2020 22:43
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Whatever human who wants to kill Godzilla is the bad guy
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Jul 26, 2020 23:44
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The anime has incredibly creative alien races. Space elves and space dwarves.
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Jul 27, 2020 00:42
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Here's a godzilla I painted on commission last week.
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CelticPredator posted:Whatever human who wants to kill Godzilla is the bad guy The guy from Half Century War is the good guy who very much tries to kill Godzilla.
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Jul 27, 2020 01:12
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GATOS Y VATOS posted:Here's a godzilla I painted on commission last week. 
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Jul 27, 2020 01:15
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:The guy from Half Century War is the good guy who very much tries to kill Godzilla. To be fair he only really gets one good shot at it.
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Jul 27, 2020 01:31
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GATOS Y VATOS posted:Here's a godzilla I painted on commission last week. Gatos I think this book will be RIGHT UP YOUR ALLEY. https://mondoshop.com/blogs/news/li...MK34yTAcJ0i_2QQ  quote:Lights, Kaiju, Action... DESTROY – ‘The Art of Sofubi’ + A Big, Big Announcement
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Vintersorg posted:Gatos I think this book will be RIGHT UP YOUR ALLEY. Dang, nice! You can see more of the ones I painted on my IG Kaiju_Sommelier and my own sofubi figure of my cat as a witch at CatMagicToys
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Jul 27, 2020 05:36
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UmOk posted:The anime has incredibly creative alien races. Space elves and space dwarves. Warhammer 40k did it first.
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Jul 27, 2020 14:58
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It's not that it's anime, it's that Urobuchi Gen is kind of a hack. He gained a lot of positive word of mouth after Madoka (which is great, but it's the animation that carries it far more than his script) and subsequently got to work on a ton of higher-profile projects. Unfortunately, when you leave the man to his own devices what you usually get is mountains of exposition and completely uninspired sci-fi world-building.
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Jul 27, 2020 19:26
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Madoka also had like actually significantly better writing and character interaction than anything else he's worked on, so I have to assume it was either an accident or the result of other talented people who were overlooked in the nerd zeitgeist.
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Jul 27, 2020 20:06
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Terrible Opinions posted:Madoka also had like actually significantly better writing and character interaction than anything else he's worked on, so I have to assume it was either an accident or the result of other talented people who were overlooked in the nerd zeitgeist. Also Fate Zero is hailed as one of his achievements, which presumably had similar extra help
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Jul 27, 2020 20:10
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Honestly it, Fate Zero, has all of the same problems as his other crappier works, but people like it for reasons that are beyond me. The only real difference is that UFOtable can animate with cgi well.
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Terrible Opinions posted:Honestly it, Fate Zero, has all of the same problems as his other crappier works, but people like it for reasons that are beyond me. Also like Madoka, it's got some amazing animated sequences.
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Jul 27, 2020 21:19
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 Ah, the good ol' days of early film making
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Jul 28, 2020 17:16
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Vinylshadow posted:
Ah yes, 1995.
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Jul 28, 2020 23:06
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Got my way earlier-than-expected shipping notice for the Gamera Complete Collection today! 
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https://twitter.com/SamTheGiganfan/status/1288641867043631104?s=19
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You're all way more into Godzilla than I could ever be, but I'm gonna share this anyway because I'm happy with how it turned out and think I might have more kaiju art-like material in me:Trabant posted:Raaaaarrr:
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That’s really neat, thanks for sharing. You did a great job. It’s been almost two decades since I’ve done any prints like that, but I know it’s a process to make that kind of art. I bet it was fun. Edit: I think that size Godzilla is more charming than the 200 ft modern versions. Let’s you appreciate what he’s destroying more and makes it feel like more of a local menace. Good choice! Violator fucked around with this message at 04:20 on Aug 1, 2020 |
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Trabant posted:You're all way more into Godzilla than I could ever be, but I'm gonna share this anyway because I'm happy with how it turned out and think I might have more kaiju art-like material in me:
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Trabant posted:You're all way more into Godzilla than I could ever be, but I'm gonna share this anyway because I'm happy with how it turned out and think I might have more kaiju art-like material in me: That's really neat, would've loved to have had that taped to my sketchbook in high school art class.
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Thanks all, glad you liked it!Violator posted:Edit: I think that size Godzilla is more charming than the 200 ft modern versions. Let’s you appreciate what he’s destroying more and makes it feel like more of a local menace. Good choice! Agreed, I think the smaller sizes are the only ones that made sense for this setting. I intentionally picked The Ritz -- one of the locations of the Alamo Drafthouse theaters -- and that small stretch of town is devoid of tall buildings so the '64 version (my favourite for  reasons) became the go-to choice.
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if August Ragone pronounces it "nucular" on this Gamera Blu-ray commentary track one more time I'm gonna crack
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