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NaanViolence posted:You're right. The core of Vietnam (the northern part) was still occupied by China for hundreds of years. That doesn't give China any right to claim it as part of their territory. Same with Xinjiang. u are objectively wrong about xinjiang so stop arguing about it
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Jul 25, 2020 18:13
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i don't think feudal relations can really be expressed in terms of military occupation
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Jul 25, 2020 19:56
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NaanViolence posted:You're right. The core of Vietnam (the northern part) was still occupied by China for hundreds of years. That doesn't give China any right to claim it as part of their territory. Same with Xinjiang. Do you consider highland areas of Vietnam as under occupation? Those areas in the 20th century saw decades of insurgency against the Vietnamese state.
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Jul 25, 2020 22:58
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lmao at that picture https://twitter.com/WSJ/status/1286492564590399488
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Jul 26, 2020 00:46
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NaanViolence posted:You're right. The core of Vietnam (the northern part) was still occupied by China for hundreds of years. That doesn't give China any right to claim it as part of their territory. Same with Xinjiang. ive brought some filth from the deep dark recesses of the twitter mines that u loath so much, goon sire https://twitter.com/coldtakesonly/status/1273739065544884225 https://twitter.com/coldtakesonly/status/1273812937052995586 https://twitter.com/coldtakesonly/status/1273766363522351105
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Jul 26, 2020 00:51
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so here's the walter russell mead article:quote:China’s rise is more than a problem. It’s a puzzle. Since the fall of the Berlin Wall, most Western analysts have assumed that China is a communist country in the way that France is a Catholic one. That is, there remain Marxist believers in China and practicing Catholics in France, but Beijing is as little guided by Marxist ideology as Emmanuel Macron is led by the precepts of Pius IX. quote:While Xi Jinping likely spends little time reading Marx’s “Grundrisse” or debating the labor theory of value with his comrades,   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grundrisse quote:today’s China combines a Leninist party structure with state control (if not always ownership) of the means of production, a planned economy, an intolerant atheism and a ruthless determination to hold on to power at all costs. That Beijing incorporates market mechanisms into its communist system is not new; Lenin introduced the New Economic Policy in 1921 to speed recovery from the Russian Civil War. But the Chinese Communist Party—armed with information technology that lets it monitor and control economic activity on a scale Lenin could only dream of—has grafted market mechanisms onto a communist state structure with great success. i believe china calls it socialism with chinese characteristics. why does the west have to create new names? just call it what they call it. quote:Call it neocommunism or digital Leninism—it’s real. And while the U.S. foreign-policy establishment was congratulating itself on the end of history, China grew into a more formidable world force than the Soviet Union ever was. As the Tibetans and Uighurs can tell us, the new system is as ruthless as old-style communism and, thanks to technology, far more effective at crushing dissent. https://twitter.com/ClancyReports/status/1284481417167147008 quote:Given the party’s ambitions, other countries have no choice but to monitor Chinese investment and financial flows, to audit their supply chains for key materials to eliminate any strategic dependence on China, and to eschew the use of Chinese tech that threatens their telecom and infrastructure security. China’s attempts to achieve technological supremacy through theft and illegal behavior pose direct security threats to other countries. These dangers must be addressed, even at significant political and economic cost.
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Jul 26, 2020 01:33
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:lmao at that picture The Yankee regime combines a two party structure with 1% control and cartelization of production, a planned stock market, an intolerant racism towards blacks & a ruthless determination to hold on to its genocidal & racist empire at all costs
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Jul 26, 2020 01:49
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:so here's the walter russell mead article: 
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Jul 26, 2020 01:54
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We're reaching the point where the Wall Street Journal attacks on China are becoming indistinguishable from the Qiao Collective defenses of China. I'm excited
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Jul 26, 2020 02:28
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Top City Homo posted:The Yankee regime combines a two party structure with 1% control and cartelization of production, a planned stock market, an intolerant racism towards blacks & a ruthless determination to hold on to its genocidal & racist empire at all costs
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Jul 26, 2020 02:59
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wow sounds like whataboutism to me. so you're saying that the insane racist empire currently destroying the world, led by a demented game show host, can't throw stones from its glass house??
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Jul 26, 2020 03:01
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Atrocious Joe posted:We're reaching the point where the Wall Street Journal attacks on China are becoming indistinguishable from the Qiao Collective defenses of China.
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Jul 26, 2020 03:26
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help! i'm being threatened with a good time!
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Jul 26, 2020 03:31
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THS posted:wow sounds like whataboutism to me. so you're saying that the insane racist empire currently destroying the world, led by a demented game show host, can't throw stones from its glass house?? 
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Jul 26, 2020 04:44
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wow being attacked from both the left and right side of the political spectrum, the ultimate centrist, befitting a nation named the the middle kingdom *bows head reverently* namaste konnichiwa *fart*
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Jul 26, 2020 05:09
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neocommunism sounds way cooler than 'socialism with chinese characteristics' neocommunism makes me think of like, vaporwave marx  holy gently caress there's a shitload of this art it's too bad cspam went with a paper theme because vaporwave communism would have been fun
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Jul 26, 2020 09:06
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gotta rebrand our enemies now that the American Neo-Confederacy is being established, it's like getting the new season's color trends before they hit the trades
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Jul 26, 2020 09:20
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Grapplejack posted:neocommunism sounds way cooler than 'socialism with chinese characteristics' vaporwave communism thread where
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Jul 26, 2020 09:25
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Grapplejack posted:neocommunism sounds way cooler than 'socialism with chinese characteristics' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szjxpbGhjTM and.. uhh not sure about this... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTdOnDSPZ_Q BrutalistMcDonalds has issued a correction as of 09:36 on Jul 26, 2020 |
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Jul 26, 2020 09:34
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sincx has issued a correction as of 05:31 on Mar 23, 2021 |
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Jul 26, 2020 17:01
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:so here's the walter russell mead article: now that's a name that brings me back to high school. at least he was right about "suicide car bombers and afgan fanatics" 
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Jul 26, 2020 20:52
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sincx posted:new cold war? nyet! Новая холодная война I probably should check out the mainland at some point. Ardennes has issued a correction as of 21:15 on Jul 26, 2020 |
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Jul 26, 2020 21:08
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:revolutionary neocommunist China oh word?
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Jul 26, 2020 21:19
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sincx has issued a correction as of 05:31 on Mar 23, 2021 |
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Jul 26, 2020 21:26
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Top City Homo posted:The Yankee regime combines a two party structure with 1% control and cartelization of production, a planned stock market, an intolerant racism towards blacks & a ruthless determination to hold on to its genocidal & racist empire at all costs lol The wsj editorial section might be the stupidest single outlet of western media. The atlantic and its ability to 'break' stories that have been known but suppressed for years is a strong contender tho
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Jul 26, 2020 21:37
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You might have heard that The United States sanctioned 11 Chinese companies for involvement in human rights violations in Xinjiang. Just a part of the new trade war with China I assumed. Turns out two of the companies were subsidiaries of Beijing Genomics Institute were my wife knows a few people. The first was Beijing Liuhe BGI. They basically only do sequencing services for research of diseases. Her friends were confused about why that particular entity was sanctioned. They do sequencing for universities and pharmaceutical companies and basically never did anything coming from Xinjiang. But sure, there could theoretically be something shady going on off the books. But the inclusion of the other company had them absolutely floored. This is the actual text from the US government document: quote:The ERC also determined that Xinjiang Silk Road BGI and Beijing Liuhe BGI are enabling activities contrary to the foreign policy interests of the United States through conducting genetic analyses used to further the repression of Muslim minority groups in the XUAR. Now "Xinjiang Silk Road BGI" sounds a bit ominous. But apparently the whole company was laughing their asses off since "Xinjiang Silk Road BGI" was a name registered in 2016 for a project that fell through. Never employed anyone, never did anything. Opinions were apparently divided about 50/50 between "americans playing 11 d chess" or "another embarrassing gently caress up because some intern lied about knowing Chinese and just used google translate". Like it doesn't even make sense as some front for Chinese intelligence or whatever. You don't have huge public announcements of those kind of things. And it's not like they would need it. Just bizarre.
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Jul 27, 2020 00:26
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Fuligin posted:lol as long as they paywall themselves into irrelevance who cares
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Jul 27, 2020 00:28
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Jul 27, 2020 01:53
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https://twitter.com/ISNJH/status/1287511327095656448?s=20
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Jul 27, 2020 02:29
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https://twitter.com/ChinaDaily/status/1287563610751827968?s=20
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Jul 27, 2020 02:42
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https://twitter.com/janisfrayer/status/1287604926592385029
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Jul 27, 2020 05:27
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i worked like across the street from it for several years. i think the people who worked there kept this one "mexican" place nearby in business.
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Jul 27, 2020 08:26
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https://twitter.com/XijinLi/status/1287401474788659200 The automated translation of the tweet reads: "The wife of the US consul in Chengdu compared the evacuation from China to "Jews hiding from the Nazis."
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Jul 27, 2020 08:35
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yeah that's a decent translation and lol what a thing to say. Also, the quality of journalism at the SCMP is absolutely not worth paying a subscription for.
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Jul 27, 2020 10:28
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shovelbum posted:Every time I come into this thread I'm in awe of China's ability to just.... Do stuff
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Jul 27, 2020 11:57
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sincx has issued a correction as of 05:31 on Mar 23, 2021 |
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Jul 27, 2020 18:43
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But who would even be able to tell?
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Jul 27, 2020 21:45
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sincx in two years, on an NED panel: "I think I may have taken this joke too far."
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Jul 28, 2020 00:45
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:lmao at that picture if only
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Jul 28, 2020 02:20
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Guy who just found out what a Uyghur was last year: https://twitter.com/j_arthur_bloom/status/1287126023084150785
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