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DelphiAegis
Jun 21, 2010
Also this is really a souls-lite game. They all really need to be played with a controller imo.

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Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug
I never tried playing with a M+KB because I couldn’t imagine that going well. This game definitely needs the sticks/face buttons/triggers.

Ulio
Feb 17, 2011


Well I didn't try out the game with kb+m but it's not that hard unless you haven't played any Soulslike then maybe it is hard.

I don't know if anyone here played the game with the recent patch where there is challenge modes and ng+. But it's so stupid that ng+ doesn't carry over your stim upgrades from previous run. The challenge mode is really hard on jedi grandmaster unless you have at least 8 stims. The base game even on jedigrandmaster you can get by with 3 stims but the gauntlet aspect of challenge mode makes it impossible to not get hit and fighting mobs in Soulslike games is always a struggle.

Captain Hygiene
Sep 17, 2007

You mess with the crabbo...



Honestly can't imagine it as a keyboard + mouse game, especially with very little aiming. Controllers are great, as always I recommend experimenting with redefining the controls since the default choices are not great.

Indiana_Krom
Jun 18, 2007
Net Slacker
Played it just fine with KB+M with slightly adjusted controls. Making mouse thumb buttons map to dodging for instance, and some autohotkey scripts for automatic button mashing when required.

I'm terrible with controllers in pretty much anything but SNES games and I am almost always more comfortable with KB+M in any game I play so take my experience with a grain of salt. This game definitely strikes me as the type that would play better using a controller if you were accustomed to one.

Pablo Bluth
Sep 7, 2007

I've made a huge mistake.
I defaulted to M&KB as that's all I have. I'll see what I can pick up at a sensible price.

codo27
Apr 21, 2008

Turn off the dialogue and the resulting boost in your mental state by not having to listen to that garbonzo will have you slicing and dicing enemies like fresh vegetables

Fuzz
Jun 2, 2003

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Pablo Bluth posted:

I defaulted to M&KB as that's all I have. I'll see what I can pick up at a sensible price.

Just get a Switch Pro controller and never need another controller again. It's excellent, battery lasts forever, has a great D-Pad, and is extremely comfortable for basically everyone.

It is hands down the best cost:quality gamepad on the market currently.

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.
The game feels like poo poo with a controller as well.

Captain Hygiene
Sep 17, 2007

You mess with the crabbo...



Imagine being so salty about a game that you revisit its thread over half a year after it came out to remind everyone you don't like it

blackguy32
Oct 1, 2005

Say, do you know how to do the walk?
Looking back on this game I liked it with the exception of two things.

1) The exploration needed better rewards than ponchos and lightsaber colors

2) The bounty hunters in the game just feel weird and tacked on. I don't know how to explain it but it feels like there was meant to be more to them but they just exist as slightly harder enemies in weird locations. It feels like a whole system was meant to be there.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Also it needs more bosses.

GlenMR
Dec 11, 2005

What is this emotion called "criminal negligence"?
The first time I played through was before I played Sekiro, and the second time was after. It's definitely not as sharp and responsive, but the world and the characters really worked for me. I'd love to see this crew turn up in a Disney+ series at some point, but I assume they're getting a second game, so no big deal.

I also imagine if Respawn had had another 6-8 months, the reception might have been very different.

SirSamVimes
Jul 21, 2008

~* Challenge *~


Fojar38 posted:

Also it needs more bosses.

:agreed: the bosses are very good, I just want more of them.

Skippy McPants
Mar 19, 2009

blackguy32 posted:

2) The bounty hunters in the game just feel weird and tacked on. I don't know how to explain it but it feels like there was meant to be more to them but they just exist as slightly harder enemies in weird locations. It feels like a whole system was meant to be there.

That whole plot fork felt underbaked. I was shocked when the kidnapped by pirates segment was over after one quick exploration sequence followed by an area battle.

TheCenturion
May 3, 2013
HI I LIKE TO GIVE ADVICE ON RELATIONSHIPS

blackguy32 posted:

Looking back on this game I liked it with the exception of two things.

1) The exploration needed better rewards than ponchos and lightsaber colors

2) The bounty hunters in the game just feel weird and tacked on. I don't know how to explain it but it feels like there was meant to be more to them but they just exist as slightly harder enemies in weird locations. It feels like a whole system was meant to be there.

3) it needed some form of easier backtracking, even if it was strictly post-game. It was baked right in there, with teleporting snarky Russian force-witch. "Cal, I can teleport you between any of those weird Force campsites you've meditated at. I'm not fragile."

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

TheCenturion posted:

3) it needed some form of easier backtracking, even if it was strictly post-game. It was baked right in there, with teleporting snarky Russian force-witch. "Cal, I can teleport you between any of those weird Force campsites you've meditated at. I'm not fragile."

4. the worlds and baddie placement needed to change up more. like in most metroidvania games, the world changes up when you progress more. FO doesnt.

haldolium
Oct 22, 2016



Dapper_Swindler posted:

4. the worlds and baddie placement needed to change up more. like in most metroidvania games, the world changes up when you progress more. FO doesnt.

Yeah it would have greatly benefited from a bit more dynamic change throughout the world.

I hope the success makes room for a 2nd one which simply improves on FO. Could work well since IW did that with a lot of their games.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

haldolium posted:

Yeah it would have greatly benefited from a bit more dynamic change throughout the world.

I hope the success makes room for a 2nd one which simply improves on FO. Could work well since IW did that with a lot of their games.

yeah as much as i love the souls lite combat, its world desighn and baddie placement classhes super hard with the metroidvania vibe. i wish it was more of an arkham type metroidvania with combat from souls.

TheCenturion
May 3, 2013
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Goddamn it, now I want Arkham Jedi.

Vinylshadow
Mar 20, 2017

I managed to get through Fallen Order on M&KB - just need to map your buttons appropriately (What's this "Slow" "Push" and "Pull" thing the game gives you but is only useful 10% of the time?)

I use Push on troopers standing on cliffs, Pull on Nightbrother archers, and use Slow on environmental hazards that need it rather than in combat, where your Force meter is better used on closing the gap to enemies rather than any of the fancy moves they gave you aside from the dual saber attack you get at the end of the game

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQnAMx3LPBE

Practice makes perfect too, of course

SirSamVimes
Jul 21, 2008

~* Challenge *~


Aoe pushing nerds to their deaths will never not be fun imo

Vinylshadow
Mar 20, 2017

Fallen Order's half-off on Steam, and I'd say $30 is well-worth being able to craft your own battle arenas and re-fight the bosses on its own on top of the base game

Tomtrek
Feb 5, 2006

I've had people walk out on me before, but not when I was being so charming.



For anyone who's interested they've just released an official version of the soundtrack - it's over 3 hours long! It should be available on most of the main streaming platforms.

The music of this game was really, really good so I'm happy it has a proper release.

Spergatory
Oct 28, 2012

Tomtrek posted:

For anyone who's interested they've just released an official version of the soundtrack - it's over 3 hours long! It should be available on most of the main streaming platforms.

The music of this game was really, really good so I'm happy it has a proper release.

Oh poo poo, finally! I've been trying to get ahold of the song that plays when you're going down the giant mud slide on Kashyyyk for ages. Second Sister's theme is also pretty choice. Love them horror strings. :discourse:

Madurai
Jun 26, 2012

Tomtrek posted:

For anyone who's interested they've just released an official version of the soundtrack - it's over 3 hours long! It should be available on most of the main streaming platforms.

The music of this game was really, really good so I'm happy it has a proper release.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and assume it has that song by The Hu on it.

Thom12255
Feb 23, 2013
WHERE THE FUCK IS MY MONEY
It's on Spotify, I was looking for this the other week, glad it's out now.

Thom12255
Feb 23, 2013
WHERE THE FUCK IS MY MONEY

Madurai posted:

I'm going to go out on a limb here and assume it has that song by The Hu on it.

I don't see it on here, maybe it has a different name - you can still get that song by itself on Spotify though.

Suburban Dad
Jan 10, 2007


Well what's attached to a leash that it made itself?
The punchline is the way that you've been fuckin' yourself




I just got this for PC and holy poo poo the stuttering and performance issues are insane. Any tips? I have a 2500k @ 4.3 and a 1070 GPU which admittedly the CPU is old but drat I've never seen a game run this lovely even on the lowest settings.

Dogen
May 5, 2002

Bury my body down by the highwayside, so that my old evil spirit can get a Greyhound bus and ride
It stutters a lot on area transition which I think is just bad texture loading. Are you on an SSD?

Indiana_Krom
Jun 18, 2007
Net Slacker
With a 2500k @ 4.3 first thing I'd check is your CPU usage % and disk activity while it is happening. If either the disk or one or more CPU cores are hitting 100% utilization than that is probably the answer. Also I suppose not having enough memory could cause that kind of issue, but you would probably have bigger problems than just one game if that was the case.

Your 1070 should be perfectly fine, its buttery smooth on my 1080 which isn't *that* much bigger.

Suburban Dad
Jan 10, 2007


Well what's attached to a leash that it made itself?
The punchline is the way that you've been fuckin' yourself




Yep. It's an older Samsung 850 Evo. It does it during gameplay randomly and cut scenes and freezes for 1-2 seconds sometimes while the audio continues. It's incredibly jarring.

Edit: yeah looks like 1-4 cores are all hitting 100% when it happens. Anything that can really be done short of upgrading? I'm well aware how old it is but it holds up well in everything else I've played so I'm a bit surprised at how bad it runs.

1440p/144hz (but lol in this game even on "medium" settings which is the lowest :v:)
16gb ram
i5 2500k
1070
1tb 850 evo ssd

Suburban Dad fucked around with this message at 02:34 on Sep 5, 2020

Dogen
May 5, 2002

Bury my body down by the highwayside, so that my old evil spirit can get a Greyhound bus and ride
Sadly it’s venerable sandy bridges time to rest.

Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug
Especially with new consoles coming out that aren’t powered by basically netbook CPUs. The graphics card has some life left but that CPU is going to be a problem in basically everything soon.

Suburban Dad
Jan 10, 2007


Well what's attached to a leash that it made itself?
The punchline is the way that you've been fuckin' yourself




I mostly play older games so it's never been a problem. Seems a lot of folks online complain about stuttering so I'm not alone. I turned Vsync on (enabled in nvidia control panel but wasn't in game) and that made it 80% better but then it just froze after a couple minutes of gameplay. :v:

Fuzz
Jun 2, 2003

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Suburban Dad posted:

I just got this for PC and holy poo poo the stuttering and performance issues are insane. Any tips? I have a 2500k @ 4.3 and a 1070 GPU which admittedly the CPU is old but drat I've never seen a game run this lovely even on the lowest settings.

Your CPU is 10 years old.

A Bag of Milk
Jul 3, 2007

I don't see any American dream; I see an American nightmare.
I have almost the same specs as you, targeting 1440p 144hz, only major difference is that I have a 8700k. And the game runs perfect. 2500k is a goat tier processor but it's time to take it to the glue factory at this point. 9 years holy poo poo

DLC Inc
Jun 1, 2011

I just started this and love it, though I haven't had any issues. Running it at max grafix on an i7 RTX 2060 though so I guess I won't lol

Suburban Dad
Jan 10, 2007


Well what's attached to a leash that it made itself?
The punchline is the way that you've been fuckin' yourself




Eh, vsync seemed to help a ton so I'll give it a bit more time.

Suburban Dad posted:

I'm well aware how old it is

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teh_Broseph
Oct 21, 2010

THE LAST METROID IS IN
CATTIVITY. THE GALAXY
IS AT PEACE...
Lipstick Apathy
Try disabling the Xbox bar game capture and any other similar Shadowplay kind of stuff. I was getting obnoxious stutter driving me nuts in some newer games when I was on a 2500k last year and the Xbox capture was the culprit (even though it was fine in other games previously).

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