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I can then only assume that since no e-Golfs are sold new in my region I am SOL on maintenance. I was browsing Carvana so welp.
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stevewm posted:It's the same with GM's electric offerings. This is one of the main reasons I haven’t looked more into a pacifica phev, the dealerships near me are almost solely dodge ram 1500 maintenance depots.
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I wouldn't be too awfully concerned about the eGolf since VW is pushing dealers hard to get tooled up for EV. Even if a dealer says they won't touch EV now, they pretty much have to by mid year next year.
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dialhforhero posted:I can then only assume that since no e-Golfs are sold new in my region I am SOL on maintenance. Have you looked at the BMW i3? How far is your commute?
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About 15 miles to work. Half and half highway/city driving. I am not exactly a fan of the i3s look. Also, I should add that a new one is way out of my price range so I cannot imagine even used being a better choice. dialhforhero fucked around with this message at 18:35 on Jul 27, 2020 |
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Jul 27, 2020 18:30
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comedy fiat 500e option since they cost approximately four dollars
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Why is there so little interest in / discussion about about the Jaguar I-pace? Whenever I look at the specs of these things the I-pace seems to stack up well, and while on the pricier side of things having sat in one - the drive is great and the interior is quality. They look handsome and I've seen more than a few around here in the UK. But I understand they just don't seem to sell in the US, why is that? I mean I certainly get that the infotainment system isn't as shiny as a Teslas. Though the new 2020 model updates that. Is it just British manufacturing has that bad a reputation? (though I understand it is actually built on the continent)
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dialhforhero posted:About 15 miles to work. Half and half highway/city driving. the most cursory glance at carvana shows that it's still the case that i3s run about the same as e-golfs, 11k up depending on age and mileage.
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Qwijib0 posted:a friend of mine cross-shopped a used e-golf with an i3, and found that almost no dealers or shops will touch an e-golf, so ended up with the i3 for about the same price but with the ability to get it fixed if something goes awry. Same here, ended up with the i3 because the nearest shop that would do anything beyond very basic maintenance on a e-golf was 4+ hours away. Meanwhile local BMW dealership has mechanics to work on every aspect of the i3.
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MrLogan posted:I got the medium system (8.16 kW) with no Powerwalls. Managed to actually get lucky on the timing and ordered when they dropped to $16k, but before they updated to $16.4k and got a $250 referral credit from MrYenko instead of the $100 credit. Thanks. Yeah the SRECs are all gone for my location. I had a similar take on the battery benefits, just not all that great for the money right now. I've gotten a couple quotes, but they are for plain vanilla systems - which might be my best option, but I don't know what other options exist. When I talk with them, it seems they're not really equipped to my level of questions. For example are there higher output per sq/ft options? Other things I should consider in terms of future proofing? What's the latest tech here? I also wonder what will happen with tax rebates in the future, depending on the election and the current tax rebate declining. Maybe I haven't found the right group. But I feel like I have a lack of full understanding for rooftop solar. Does anyone have an 'advanced solar guide' that has more advanced options? In the end, I might select the 'tried and true' option, but I'd at least like to know what's new and coming.
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Nostalgic Cashew posted:Thanks. Yeah the SRECs are all gone for my location. I had a similar take on the battery benefits, just not all that great for the money right now. As far as I know, Sunpower still has the best efficiency per square foot (23%), but they are sold as a system, installed. I have the previous generation of panel, on a string inverter, rather than micros on each of the panels, which is "the new thing". I preferred just having the one shaded inverter out of the weather. I thought we had a solar thread somewhere but I can't find it.
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Two good reviews of two good cars. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbWJO66JIYg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZxAeMBtoSg VW needs to change the mirror and steering wheel controls to conventional ones though.
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So about that Third Row design... Maybe the Third Row is a bad idea on the Model Y
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Nostalgic Cashew posted:Thanks. Yeah the SRECs are all gone for my location. I had a similar take on the battery benefits, just not all that great for the money right now. When I got a quote here last year they presented both SilFab panels (made locally) & LG Panels (Korean). The LG panels seemed to have higher efficiency? I only tried one company for a bid for now.
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FilthyImp posted:LG panels lose their efficiency after a few years, while Panasonic's newest only post a 10ish% loss at the 20 year mark. This is the kind of detail I'm looking for - I know there are a bunch of forums on this, but it's tough to find good ones that are not focused on off-the-grid or other specialty stuff, or are overly simple. Anyone have any recommendations?
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It's hard to find, but something like this should be what you need: https://www.solar-estimate.org/solar-panels-101/an-expert-review-of-lg-solar-panels Note they have the solar efficiency drop-off at the 10yr and 11-20 year marks, as well as the reduction in production due to temp ratings.
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Ola posted:Two good reviews of two good cars. Wonder when ID.4 reviews will start to show up. Either that or the XC40 electric is probably going to be the replacement for our CX-5. Polestar reviews have been good so I’m optimistic about the XC40.
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Desiderata posted:Why is there so little interest in / discussion about about the Jaguar I-pace? Whenever I look at the specs of these things the I-pace seems to stack up well, and while on the pricier side of things having sat in one - the drive is great and the interior is quality. They look handsome and I've seen more than a few around here in the UK. But I understand they just don't seem to sell in the US, why is that? I have a buddy that does nothing but electrical service at the local Jaguar/Land Rover dealership. He is one of the highest paid employees at the dealership. He personally drives a BMW 5 series. They have 0 I-Pace on the lot for a reason.
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Desiderata posted:Why is there so little interest in / discussion about about the Jaguar I-pace? Whenever I look at the specs of these things the I-pace seems to stack up well, and while on the pricier side of things having sat in one - the drive is great and the interior is quality. They look handsome and I've seen more than a few around here in the UK. But I understand they just don't seem to sell in the US, why is that? Its range is decent. It's decently quick. But like the E-Tron it has pretty poor efficiency, and unlike the E-Tron it doesn't reserve significant capacity up top so it doesn't charge very quickly in the way that matters, range/time. It's supposed to be a luxury long-range EV crossover but doesn't support it with deliberate quick charging design decisions (like the E-Tron) or charging network (like Tesla model X) so it doesn't fulfill its premise.
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I'm just riffing here, but I think branding is a problem for JLR with it. In the collective ideal of Jaguar The Brand (reliability jokes aside), you generally associate it with sleek sexy grand touring coupes and convertibles, yeah they sold sedans, but why bother unless you're some For-Queen-and Country Teaboo after some aristocratic cachet. Just get a big German saloon, and people did. JLR did try to make the F-Pace look sexy, but they'd have been better off selling it as a Range Rover e-evoque. That's already an established Rich Person City SUV brand (yeah I went there, Britain, you know it's true), and a CUV makes sense there. The typical balding late middle aged executive male Jaguar buyer just isn't interested. But he'd buy a Range Rover branded one for his 3rd wife. Audi, meanwhile, sells Q series like hotcakes so an electric Q series is just, well why wouldn't you just buy the German e-SUV? And so people did. Some might question the decision of Ford slapping the Mustang moniker on the Mach-e, but I think everyone could agree that selling it as a Lincoln would have been a poor branding choice, and so it is with the F-Pace.
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I dunno what it's like in other markets but Audi can't sell e-trons to save their life in the US despite selling a bajillion QXs. I do think that at least for high end EV a dedicated brand makes sense (Polestar) or at least a kind of sub brand (ID). ANd if you had to pick something out of the JLR stable, it should have been Land Rover. I guess for LR it ran in to branding issues because it's not off road capable or whatever, despite the fact that a bunch of LR product is not off road capable anyway.
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Finger Prince posted:I'm just riffing here, but I think branding is a problem for JLR with it. In the collective ideal of Jaguar The Brand (reliability jokes aside), you generally associate it with sleek sexy grand touring coupes and convertibles, yeah they sold sedans, but why bother unless you're some For-Queen-and Country Teaboo after some aristocratic cachet. Just get a big German saloon, and people did. JLR did try to make the F-Pace look sexy, but they'd have been better off selling it as a Range Rover e-evoque. That's already an established Rich Person City SUV brand (yeah I went there, Britain, you know it's true), and a CUV makes sense there. The typical balding late middle aged executive male Jaguar buyer just isn't interested. But he'd buy a Range Rover branded one for his 3rd wife. F-Pace and E-Pace are Jaguar's best selling cars so they made an electric version of it, simple as that. More I-Pace then F-Type are sold nowadays.
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:I dunno what it's like in other markets but Audi can't sell e-trons to save their life in the US despite selling a bajillion QXs. I do think that at least for high end EV a dedicated brand makes sense (Polestar) or at least a kind of sub brand (ID). ANd if you had to pick something out of the JLR stable, it should have been Land Rover. I guess for LR it ran in to branding issues because it's not off road capable or whatever, despite the fact that a bunch of LR product is not off road capable anyway. There's no reason you couldn't make an EV as off-road capable as an evoque or whatever though.
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Ola posted:Two good reviews of two good cars. Holy poo poo the id3 comes with 20" wheels, that's nuts. I mean it's also possible to get 18" on some models but still. And they saved a few euros by only having two window swtiches on the driver's door lol. mobby_6kl fucked around with this message at 17:16 on Jul 28, 2020 |
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Elviscat posted:There's no reason you couldn't make an EV as off-road capable as an evoque or whatever though. I'm not really sure if off-road EVs are something that car companies would really want to focus on right now. The charging infrastructure such as it is is focused almost entirely around highways and people's homes. With a smattering around places that they shop. Getting to and from out of the way places that would require off-roading just doesn't have the charging infrastructure in place to support it. Once ev's start to become more popular then getting charging available at state and national parks will become a thing and that will likely spread out into other more remote places.
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Gloss black on the ID3 armrests, ugh. I had to wrap the center console of my Model 3 because of that crap, impossible to keep it clean. I wish manufacturers would move towards matte for this stuff. Super bummed I can't get an ID3 here, it was my first choice EV.
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:I dunno what it's like in other markets but Audi can't sell e-trons to save their life in the US despite selling a bajillion QXs. I do think that at least for high end EV a dedicated brand makes sense (Polestar) or at least a kind of sub brand (ID). I would think that in the US market at least its incredibly difficult to sell a vehicle that is $70,000+ even after incentives. Some states can tick that down a bit but some other states charge extra for EVs. The Q5 is affordable to a lot more people that the e-tron ever will be. It also seems iffy to me to pay a $20,000+ premium over a Q5/7 for an EV drivetrain that is going to be outclassed in a year or two by the meb platform, not to mention what other manufacturers are going to be putting out over that same time frame. The Q4 is looking like it might at least be more competitive with the Q5 on price. The ipace seems like its in a similar situation, the thing I noticed about it is how small it is despite being billed as a crossover. How many people are in the market for a small performance car that wouldn't just opt for a Tesla instead at the price point? $65,000 can get you a lot of Model 3, and gives you access to charging.
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mobby_6kl posted:Holy poo poo the id3 comes with 20" wheels, that's nuts. I mean it's also possible to get 18" on some models but still. I played a bit with the configurator at https://www.volkswagen.de/ , seems like 19" is standard on some trims as well. Which is still pretty big for a compact car. But yes, the window switches need to go, asap.
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Elviscat posted:There's no reason you couldn't make an EV as off-road capable as an evoque or whatever though. There's no technical reason you can't but I don't think the market is big enough to make sense for a volume street legal OEM and the charging infrastructure situation is very much worse. Jimong5 posted:I would think that in the US market at least its incredibly difficult to sell a vehicle that is $70,000+ even after incentives. Some states can tick that down a bit but some other states charge extra for EVs. The Q5 is affordable to a lot more people that the e-tron ever will be. It also seems iffy to me to pay a $20,000+ premium over a Q5/7 for an EV drivetrain that is going to be outclassed in a year or two by the meb platform, not to mention what other manufacturers are going to be putting out over that same time frame. The Q4 is looking like it might at least be more competitive with the Q5 on price. I agree with you. Holy poo poo though that ID3 cost like 50 k euro! what!
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Nostalgic Cashew posted:Thanks. Yeah the SRECs are all gone for my location. I had a similar take on the battery benefits, just not all that great for the money right now. I just went by kW/$ and Tesla was the best by far. I'm not sure what you mean by vanilla systems. Other than provide electricity, I don't have any expectations out of my solar system. If you do decide to go with Tesla, shoot me a PM and I'll send you my referral link.
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Jimong5 posted:I would think that in the US market at least its incredibly difficult to sell a vehicle that is $70,000+ even after incentives. Some states can tick that down a bit but some other states charge extra for EVs. The Q5 is affordable to a lot more people that the e-tron ever will be. It also seems iffy to me to pay a $20,000+ premium over a Q5/7 for an EV drivetrain that is going to be outclassed in a year or two by the meb platform, not to mention what other manufacturers are going to be putting out over that same time frame. Is the e-tron switching to MEB? I thought it was staying on their premium electric platform along with the Taycan. I think Volkswagen intends to keep both platforms relevant, but that might be outdated info. Either way, yeah, the I-Pace is just too drat expensive to be worth it for the majority.
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Nitrousoxide posted:Once ev's start to become more popular then getting charging available at state and national parks will become a thing and that will likely spread out into other more remote places. I would prefer state and national parks don't have charging stations for the same reason I don't want them to have gas stations
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I'm fine with it if it's renewably generated and run by the parks department. I def. don't want my public spaces brought to me by exxon/7-11/chargepoint/etc.
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Well my Mustang has been declared totaled so I'm looking around and forgot that the Mach-e is coming out soon. How big of a deal is it if I don't have a garage? My gut tells me that exposing lithium-ion batteries to hot summers and frigid winters is probably a bad idea
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PIZZA.BAT posted:Well my Mustang has been declared totaled so I'm looking around and forgot that the Mach-e is coming out soon. How big of a deal is it if I don't have a garage? My gut tells me that exposing lithium-ion batteries to hot summers and frigid winters is probably a bad idea
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My dryer in the basement is right along the wall where my parking pad is outside. So setting up a 240V charging station probably wouldn't be too much of a hassle. I'm way waaay more concerned about it being exposed to the elements. However googling around all I can find is articles talking about the charging aspect of it so maybe my fears are misplaced
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PIZZA.BAT posted:My dryer in the basement is right along the wall where my parking pad is outside. So setting up a 240V charging station probably wouldn't be too much of a hassle. I'm way waaay more concerned about it being exposed to the elements. However googling around all I can find is articles talking about the charging aspect of it so maybe my fears are misplaced Here he covers winter without a garage. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecmwWZmaU0A&t=315s
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