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i say swears online posted:I'm driving less so I bought a month of wow classic to catch up on podcasts, rip The only reason I bought a 2nd screen for my computer is because I got tired of warping to a spot in eve, alt tabbing to youtube, and coming back after 5 minutes to find my wreckage
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Podcast listening during my daily commute has been replaced by podcast listening while cooking meals, washing dishes, and cleaning around the house I remember I stopped listening to Dan Carlin's HardR History when his WWI series was using Niall Ferguson as a reference, and now I'm getting mad again because he read Shattered Sword to research the Battle of Midway and he still didn't take the right lessons from it.
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papa horny michael posted:gwzegsnydermans Lol
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Phone posted:when the atlantic council is funding your paycheck and you’re publishing poo poo that MI6 is feeding you, you might be laundering the imperial project buddy tankie jeff foxworthy is a good idea for a bit
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crepeface posted:did you guys know it's possible to do work that is bad and also do work that is good Next you’re going to bring up the Autobahn.
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Atrocious Joe posted:I ended up listening to "It Could Happen Here" this week, which is a former Cracked writer trying to predict what a new US civil war would look like. lol that this was my first post in this iteration of the thread I've been complaining about Evans for over a year at this point
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Jul 27, 2020 18:08
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gradenko_2000 posted:Podcast listening during my daily commute has been replaced by podcast listening while cooking meals, washing dishes, and cleaning around the house I'm in a similar boat on Dan. I'm convinced he didn't actually read modern accounts because he references some superb histories like Shattered Sword as too technical and then promptly uses sources that have been debunked for 40 years and accounts that are explicitly called out as physically impossible. It was extremely frustrating and I just turned it off after a bit.
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Jul 27, 2020 18:18
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Retromancer posted:I would severely question the sanity of a person who listens to a podcast without doing anything else. I have a nice stereo system and a papasan and if I'm not busy I'll spend an hour or two just listening to podcasts.
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Jul 27, 2020 19:10
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gradenko_2000 posted:I remember I stopped listening to Dan Carlin's HardR History when his WWI series was using Niall Ferguson as a reference, and now I'm getting mad again because he read Shattered Sword to research the Battle of Midway and he still didn't take the right lessons from it. Omnicarus posted:I'm in a similar boat on Dan. I'm convinced he didn't actually read modern accounts because he references some superb histories like Shattered Sword as too technical and then promptly uses sources that have been debunked for 40 years and accounts that are explicitly called out as physically impossible. It was extremely frustrating and I just turned it off after a bit. What does he gently caress up?
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Jul 27, 2020 19:49
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I only listen to Chapo Trap House in a sensory deprivation tank. After five minutes it’s like they are in the tank with you. I get a lot more out of it this way, with Felix and myself walking through my mind palace holding hands.
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Jul 27, 2020 20:19
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me when I listen to podcasts.
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Goast posted:CIA goons
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crepeface posted:i guess i'll bow to thread consensus on evans' since you all seem to be way more informed about him. i just don't see this version you guys are presenting in his recent coverage or podcasts That's the thing about many liberal figures; they'll talk about some people who are actually bad and generally speak from a similar moral framework to the left, but use it to harmful ends. Even when he's not directly advocating for awful things (like in the tweets Goast linked), he deliberately limits his focus to certain topics in a way that ends up influencing the way the listener perceives the world (through influencing what they choose to focus on). The reason why many of us react strongly is that Evans, do to being a goon (ex-goon? not sure if he ever still posts as Brown Moses) acquired his own share of enthusiastic support on these forums, who treated him as some sort of expert on topics like Syria or Libya when those issues were contemporary during the Obama administration. Basically people perceiving him in the way you perceive him (and the fact that it's easy to imagine how an otherwise reasonable person could view things that way), despite the guy essentially being a US war propagandist, is a big reason why he is so concerning.
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Ytlaya posted:That's the thing about many liberal figures; they'll talk about some people who are actually bad and generally speak from a similar moral framework to the left, but use it to harmful ends. Even when he's not directly advocating for awful things (like in the tweets Goast linked), he deliberately limits his focus to certain topics in a way that ends up influencing the way the listener perceives the world (through influencing what they choose to focus on). Evans isn’t Brown Moses. he posts in the RGD thread about Behind the Bastards. but otherwise this is correct. inexperienced socialists - and myself if I’m gonna be honest - have their biggest weakness in foreign policy. this is mostly because the most effective way to do politics is to show people what’s in it for them, and socialism does have some very good answers for converting Americans, given more and more of us wind up impoverished every day. it’s easy to sell people on leftism with concepts like M4A, wealth inequality, and workers’ unions, but much harder to get people to care about a country they will never go to. people like Evans are uniquely dangerous because his opinions on domestic issues can be largely correct (he was a Warren stan, that dumbass) so when inexperienced leftists see him espouse those views, they start to trust the dude. and then when foreign policy talk starts happening they’re like “I don’t know anything about that, but Evans has a really strong opinion on this and I trust him on other matters.” and then they start repeating those opinions without interrogating or knowing anything about them because that’s just the nature of the Internet. so if the accusations of Evans being a CIA stooge are true, he’s aware of this phenomenon and is intentionally exploiting it to run damage control on American empire’s recent string of failures and further disenfranchisement of left-leaning people. and if they’re not true, then he’s an imperialist dumbass who’s doing incalculable damage to the left by not just shutting the gently caress up. Pirate Jet has issued a correction as of 20:43 on Jul 27, 2020 |
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i realised the other day was i drunkly talking about Virgil Abloh going to LVMH with a washed cousin who's into fashion and i kept calling him virgil texasi say swears online posted:I'm driving less so I bought a month of wow classic to catch up on podcasts, rip factorio my dude
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Jul 27, 2020 20:43
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Honest Thief posted:factorio my dude best game ever, but if I fire it up I will not move for twelve hours. I installed some complexity mods that are kicking my rear end
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The Muppets On PCP posted:tankie jeff foxworthy is a good idea for a bit When you've seen the violence of ISIL first hand, but support the killing of Qasem Soleimani, you might be a fed-neck. When YUUUUU say you're an anarchist, but think Epstein killed himself, you might be a fed-neck.
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Jul 27, 2020 21:04
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Some podcasts I'll listen to without actively doing anything else, but those are mostly scripted audio drama where I actually want to pay attention. People chattering about things or playing D&D for an audience or whatever is for choretime/videogame time.
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Fortunately, I know that the US should not militarily intervene anywhere in the world ever for any reason, and don't particularly care if the people who disagree have been to Syria or wherever.
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agreed. and also that evans guy writes like a cop
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I listen either while working from home or playing videogames. I just started a game of EU IV as the Papal State.
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MonsieurChoc posted:I listen either while working from home or playing videogames. be careful about subjugating Naples, if you don't have truces with some of the north Italian states its very easy to have a coalition fire immediately after you vassalize them
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Doc Hawkins posted:Materialist historical theories are not exercises in moral justification. Do you also think Marx's account "excuses" capitalism? He says directly that the capitalist is just as trapped by the system as the worker! yeah this seems strange as gently caress to me. might as well say that every historian endorses war and wanton slaughter
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babypolis posted:yeah this seems strange as gently caress to me. might as well say that every historian endorses war and wanton slaughter It's more complicated than that, it's more that the individual capitalist is only as free as he is willing to further the status quo, and that any who try to buck the trend by forgoing infinite growth forever or more fairly compensating employees will be destroyed by those who embrace those things, because the system provides a million ways for the crazy to destroy the kind but only one way for the kind to destroy the crazy
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zegermans posted:That's a good point, no one listens to a podcast unless they're unable to do other things Yeah, like sleep.
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Epic High Five posted:It's more complicated than that, it's more that the individual capitalist is only as free as he is willing to further the status quo, and that any who try to buck the trend by forgoing infinite growth forever or more fairly compensating employees will be destroyed by those who embrace those things, because the system provides a million ways for the crazy to destroy the kind but only one way for the kind to destroy the crazy did you quote the wrong post or something? what does this have to do with what said
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babypolis posted:did you quote the wrong post or something? what does this have to do with what said It's the rationale in Kapital for the argument that the capitalist is just as trapped in the system as the worker
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Probably should've responded to the original but time spent reading posts is time spent not posting. Not efficient
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Someone in the protests thread called people bringing up Evans' intelligence connections tankies and I nearly spontaneously combusted.
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Doc Hawkins posted:Materialist historical theories are not exercises in moral justification. Do you also think Marx's account "excuses" capitalism? He says directly that the capitalist is just as trapped by the system as the worker! now whether you can start a book with a thesis of saying "europeans and imperialism = bad" and then spooling around it like cotton candy to flesh it out is a different question
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Jul 27, 2020 22:41
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GGS tries to answer 'why europe' from a basically materialist/determinist perspective. it's deeply speculative and methodologically suspect, but it tells a good story. it's overrated insofar as it's been massively hyped over the years, but it's a very fine pop-sci book
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Pirate Jet posted:Evans isn’t Brown Moses. he posts in the RGD thread about Behind the Bastards. Oh I confused Evans and Elliot Higgens (who actually founded Bellingcat); I remember the angle involved people really liking Bellingcat because it was a "goon thing." Their politics seem about the same.
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Omnicarus posted:I'm in a similar boat on Dan. I'm convinced he didn't actually read modern accounts because he references some superb histories like Shattered Sword as too technical and then promptly uses sources that have been debunked for 40 years and accounts that are explicitly called out as physically impossible. It was extremely frustrating and I just turned it off after a bit. Yeah, when you talk about naval battles in WW2, you kinda do need to get into technical details- it was a very technical kind of war, technology and the way it was used was really important and critical to answering some common questions about the battle of Midway in particular.
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Geez, if only there was some way to guarantee that people with Evans' foreign policy outlook could be delegitimized and shunned from leftist organizations and communities. The left really needs to make it customary for people's opinions to be scrutinized and for them to be promptly ostracized if they are found wanting.
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MizPiz posted:Geez, if only there was some way to guarantee that people with Evans' foreign policy outlook could be delegitimized and shunned from leftist organizations and communities. The left really needs to make it customary for people's opinions to be scrutinized and for them to be promptly ostracized if they are found wanting. perhaps some kind of Deletion Discourse
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V. Illych L. posted:GGS tries to answer 'why europe' from a basically materialist/determinist perspective. it's deeply speculative and methodologically suspect, but it tells a good story. it's overrated insofar as it's been massively hyped over the years, but it's a very fine pop-sci book yeah no disagreement there. i consider it more like MMT, not very good but something easy to grasp and can enlighten euro/whitesupremacy liberals. in 1997 that probably made more an impact, even in a pop-sci way, because even howard zinn and like was still largely shunned in favor of end-of-history euro-supremacy neoliberalism, than it does today where things are accepted writ-large and much more information is widely accessible than back in 97.
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chapo managed to get their reddit to hate them way faster than o and a which is impressive
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happy jersey day! why are you thankful for new jersey
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