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Harlock posted:*Both teams reserve the right to claim their player back at the end of the season Glad this is a thing
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DannoMack posted:Yes I accept the campanella griffey swap! are you done trading danno because by my count you've swapped well over 30 players this offseason. Also, i want to work on your division preview.
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HulkaMatt posted:are you done trading danno because by my count you've swapped well over 30 players this offseason. Also, i want to work on your division preview. Yes I believe so. As soon as I get Jack Lapp from mrnoun I'll do my roster post.
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As a public service announcement, here are the remaining owners and teams that need to post final rosters: tatankatonk - Akabira Killer Mikes mks5000 - Hague Honkbalers Armitage - Sense of Right Alliance DannoMack - Algonquin Park Handybeavers AmyL - Limes of Harry Lime Nissin Cup Nudist - Gritty's Chosen TheoSqua - INSERT TEAM NAME HERE Jampact/kensei - Centralia Corgis GenericGirlName - The Metropolitans Pungry - Titanic Deck Chairs mrnoun - Luna Landers Beet fucked around with this message at 16:27 on Jul 24, 2020 |
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Looks like a list of all the coolest owners in the league to me
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Shawon Dunston posted:Faustoan Bargain - Colorado Disappointments They WERE. But not anymore! Presenting... the Cleveland Disappointments. Team Logo (150x150 preferred):  Home City: Cleveland, OH Home Stadium: Progressive Field Feeders: Prime Wasters: Up to 10 UNIQUE teammates of a player, 1996 - 2000. Plus the player. Jim Thome (5) (asterisked below) 1987 Red Sox (2) 2011 Dodgers (2) 1907 Cubs (2) Strategy (Rate on a scale from -5 to +5) Hit and Run: 0 Sacrifice Bunt: -5 Squeeze Play: -2 Trying for extra bases: 2 Stealing Bases: 0 Aggressively Tagging Up: 0 Pitch Outs (to prevent stolen bases): 0 Giving Intentional Walks: -2 Pitching Around Good Hitters: 2 Bringing the Infield In: -2 Guarding the Lines: 0 Making Cutoff Throws: 1 Bringing in Pinch Hitters: -3 Bringing in Pinch Runners: 0 Bringing in Defensive Replacements: -3 Starting Pitchers on Short Rest: -3 Letting pitchers pitch through trouble: 0 Letting Pitchers rack up high pitch counts: 0 vs. RHP CF 1997 Kenny Lofton * 2B 1999 Roberto Alomar * 3B 1987 Wade Boggs RF 1999 Manny Ramirez * DH 1999 Jim Thome LF 1996 Albert Belle * 1B 2011 Joey Votto (acquired in Dispersal Draft) C 1998 Mike Piazza (acquired in Dispersal Draft) SS 1992 Cal Ripken (acquired in Dispersal Draft) vs. LHP 2B 1999 Roberto Alomar * 3B 1987 Wade Boggs RF 1999 Manny Ramirez * 1B 1999 Jim Thome LF 1996 Albert Belle * DH 1987 Dwight Evans C 1998 Mike Piazza SS 1992 Cal Ripken CF 2011 Matt Kemp Bench guys! C 1997 Sandy Alomar * IF 1987 Tony Fernandez (acquired in trade with Dannomack/Algonquin Park Handybeavers) IF 1996 Jeff Kent * SP 1998 Pedro Martinez (acquired in Dispersal Draft) SP 1907 Mordecai Brown SP 2011 Clayton Kershaw SP 1987 Roger Clemens SP 1907 Ed Reulbach CL 2011 Kenley Jansen SU 1997 Jose Mesa * SR 2002 John Smoltz (acquired in Dispersal Draft) SR 2011 Javy Guerra MR 1998 Michael Jackson * LR 1974 Fergie Jenkins (acquired in trade with Dannomack/Algonquin Park Handybeavers) MINORS ---- P 2000 Bartolo Colon * P 1907 Orval Overall C 1907 Frank Chance 3B 1907 Harry Steinfeldt OF 1987 Mike Greenwell P 2011 Hiroki Kuroda P 1907 Carl Lundgren C 2011 A.J. Ellis P 1987 Calvin Schiraldi P 1907 Jack Pfiester C 1907 Johnny Kling martipe02,1998,,,,Pedro,Martinez brownmo01,1907,,,,Mordecai,Brown kershcl01,2011,,,,Clayton,Kershaw clemero02,1987,,,,Roger,Clemens reulbed01,1907,,,,Ed,Reulbach jenkife01,1974,,,,Fergie,Jenkins jacksmi02,1998,,,,Michael,Jackson guerrja01,2011,,,,Javy,Guerra smoltjo01,2002,,,,John,Smoltz mesajo01,1997,,,,Jose,Mesa janseke01,2011,,,,Kenley,Jansen colonba01,2000,,,,Bartolo,Colon overaor01,1907,,,,Orval,Overall alomasa02,1997,,,,Sandy,Alomar fernato01,1987,,,,Fernandez,Tony alomaro01,1999,,,,Roberto,Alomar boggswa01,1987,,,,Wade,Boggs ramirma02,1999,,,,Manny,Ramirez thomeji01,1999,,,,Jim,Thome belleal01,1996,,,,Albert,Belle evansdw01,1987,,,,Dwight,Evans piazzmi01,1998,,,,Mike,Piazza ripkeca01,1992,,,,Cal,Ripken kempma01,2011,,,,Matt,Kemp vottojo01,2011,,,,Joey,Votto loftoke01,1996,,,,Kenny,Lofton chancfr01,1907,,,,Frank,Chance kentje01,1996,,,,Jeff,Kent greenmi01,1987,,,,Mike,Greenwell steinha01,1907,,,,Harry,Steinfeldt klingjo01,1907,,,,Johnny,Kling pfiesja01,1907,,,,Jack,Pfiester schirca01,1987,,,,Calvin,Schiraldi kurodhi01,2011,,,,Hiroki,Kuroda ellisaj01,2011,,,,Ellis,A.J. lundgca01,1907,,,,Carl,Lundgren
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Roster post: Hometown: Milan, Lombardy, Italy (elevation: 394 feet) Stadium: Stadio JF Kennedy Dimensions: 321-369-397-369-321 Structure: Open Surface: Grass Infield Quality: Excellent Infield Grass height: Medium Visibility: Average Foul Ground: Small Roster: Batters: code:code:code:code:code:
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DannoMack posted:Looks like a list of all the coolest owners in the league to me if I was cool I would win once in awhile
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 Hometown: Minneapolis, MN Stadium: Aroused Gazebo (Target Field) Roster Batters: code:code:code:code:
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Trade 1! South Dakota Marmosets send 1927 eddie collins 1927 Baby Doll Jacobson Eagle Creek Firebears send 1918 Eddie Cicotte
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Trade 2! John Roberts' RoboUmps send 2002 Paul Konerko Eagle Creek Firebears send 1918 Happy Felsch
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JR Leap posted:Trade 1! Confirmed. I will update my roster post sometime today. Zodiac5000 fucked around with this message at 19:32 on Jul 23, 2020 |
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JR Leap posted:Trade 2! AFFIRMED.
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Eagle Creek Firebears CSV code:2B Eddie Collins DH Joe Jackson LF Ken Williams RF Hank Aaron 1B George Sisler CF Edd Roush 3B Heinie Groh C Hank Severeid SS Cal Ripken Lineup vs LHP 2B Eddie Collins LF Sherry Magee RF Hank Aaron 1B Paul Konerko DH David Wright SS Cal Ripken C Carlton Fisk CF Baby Doll Jacobson 3B Heinie Groh Rotation Cy Young Don Sutton John Clarkson Lefty Grove Luis Tiant Bullpen CL Luis Avalan SU Mike Regan SR Reb Russell SR Joe Benz MR Red Faber LR Rick Wise Stadium Columbia Gorge Amphitheater City: Portland OR Artificial Turf Convertible Roof IF Quality: Average IF Grass: Short Visibility: Good Foul Ground: Average LF: 310 LCF: 360 CF: 400 RCF: 380 RF: 335 Strategy Hit and Run: +2 Sac Bunt: -1 Squeeze: +1 Extra bases: +1 Steal bases: -1 Tag up: +1 Pitchout: -1 Int Walk: -4 Pitch Around: +1 Inf In: -1 Guard Lines: -1 Cutoff Throws: -2 Pinch Hit: 0 Pinch Run: +1 Def Replacements: -2 Start on Short Rest: -1 Pitch through Trouble: 0 High Pitch Counts: 0 DIVISION PREVIEW AID Positions (vs RHP/LHP) C: 22 Hank Severeid / 75 Carlton Fisk 1B: 22 George Sisler / 02 Paul Konerko 2B: 18 Eddie Collins 3B: 18 Heinie Groh SS: 87 Cal Ripken LF: 22 Ken Williams / 18 Sherry Magee CF: 18 Edd Roush / 22 Baby Doll Jacobson RF: 60 Hank Aaron DH: 18 Joe Jackson / 10 David Wright Bench (vs RHP): C Carlton Fisk, 1B Paul Konerko, 3B David Wright, LF Sherry Magee, CF Baby Doll Jacobson Key Hitting Depth in Minors: C Ray Schalk, 1B Carl Yastrzemski, IF Buck Weaver, RF Dwight Evans Rotation SP1 00 Cy Young SP2 71 Don Sutton SP3 92 John Clarkson SP4 33 Lefty Grove SP5 75 Luis Tiant Bullpen CL 14 Luis Avilan, SU 18 Mike Regan, SR 18 Reb Russell, SR 18 Joe Benz, MR 18 Red Faber, LR 75 Rick Wise Key Pitching Depth in Minors: SP Urban Shocker, SP Fred Toney, RP Hod Eller
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   It's the ENIX SLIMES!! TEAM: Enix Slimes Home City: Tokyo, Japan Home Stadium: Goo Palace (370-375-380-360-350) Open Air Grass Infield Quality: Average Infield Grass: Short Visibility: Average Foul Ground: Small STRATEGY: pre:Sliders: Hit and Run: -5 Sacrifice Bunt: -5 Squeeze Play: -5 Trying for extra bases: 0 Stealing Bases: 0 Aggressively Tagging Up: -2 Pitch Outs (to prevent stolen bases): 1 Giving Intentional Walks: -3 Pitching Around Good Hitters: 2 Bringing the Infield In: 0 Guarding the Lines: 0 Making Cutoff Throws: 0 Bringing in Pinch Hitters: 2 Bringing in Pinch Runners: -4 Bringing in Defensive Replacements: 3 Starting Pitchers on Short Rest: -1 Letting pitchers pitch throw trouble: 3 Letting Pitchers rack up high pitch counts: 3 pre:ROTATION SP1 1992 Greg Maddux [R] SP2 1885 Old Hoss Radbourn [R] SP3 1951 Warren Spahn [L] SP4 1992 Kevin Brown [R] SP5 1940 Dizzy Dean [R] BULLPEN CL 1995 Mariano Rivera [R] SU 2015 Jonathan Papelbon [R] SU 1996 John Smoltz [R] MR 2016 Koji Uehara [R] MR 1984 Dennis Eckersley [R] LR 1984 Nolan Ryan [R] pre: vs RHP
CF 1908 Tris Speaker
LF 1902 Jesse Burkett
1B 1939 Johnny Mize
DH 1992 Wade Boggs
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C 1967 Joe Torre
SS 1907 Honus Wagner
2B 1935 Charlie Gehringer
3B 1965 Ron Santo
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2B 1930 Riggs Stephenson
C 1939 Ernie Lombardi
OF 1995 Gary Sheffield
OF 2002 Vladimir Guerrero
SS 1994 Cal Ripken
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2B 1930 Riggs Stephenson
RF 1995 Gary Sheffield
1B 1939 Johnny Mize
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C 1967 Joe Torre
SS 1907 Honus Wagner
DH 2002 Vladimir Guerrero
3B 1965 Ron Santo
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2B 1935 Charlie Gehringer
C 1939 Ernie Lombardi
3B 1992 Wade Boggs
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SS 1994 Cal Ripken
pre:1905 Chief Bender 1916 Slim Sallee 2004 Pedro Martinez 1939 Paul Derringer 1921 Stan Coveleski 2016 Junichi Tazawa 2008 Sergio Romo 2016 Andrew Miller 1985 Rich Gossage 1955 Lindy McDaniel 2016 Tommy Layne 1953 Mickey Mantle 2016 Mookie Betts 1949 Duke Snider 1951 Richie Ashburn 1939 Joe Medwick 1961 Roberto Clemente 1984 Dave Kingman 1929 Joe Cronin 1939 Stan Hack 1933 Buddy Myer 1955 Red Schoendienst 1998 Jeff Bagwell 2001 John Olerud 2013 Miguel Cabrera 2016 Hanley Ramirez 1939 Babe Phelps 1951 Roy Campanella pre:### CUSTOM PLAYER BIG OH!!! ### torrejo01,1967,,,,Joe,Torre lombaer01,1939,,,,Ernie,Lombardi phelpba01,1939,,,,Babe,Phelps camparo01,1951,,,,Roy,Campanella mizejo01,1939,,,,Johnny,Mize bagweje01,1998,,,,Jeff,Bagwell olerujo01,2001,,,,John,Olerud cabremi01,2013,,,,Miguel,Cabrera ramirha01,2016,,,,Hanley,Ramirez stephri01,1930,,,,Riggs,Stephenson gehrich01,1935,,,,Charlie,Gehringer myerbu01,1933,,,,Buddy,Myer schoere01,1955,,,,Red,Schoendienst boggswa01,1992,,,,Wade,Boggs santoro01,1965,,,,Ron,Santo hackst01,1939,,,,Stan,Hack wagneho01,1907,,,,Honus,Wagner ripkeca01,1994,,,,Cal,Ripken cronijo01,1929,,,,Joe,Cronin medwijo01,1939,,,,Joe,Medwick sheffga01,1995,,,,Gary,Sheffield burkeje01,1902,,,,Jesse,Burkett guerrvl01,2002,,,,Vladimir,Guerrero clemero01,1961,,,,Roberto,Clemente kingmda01,1984,,,,Dave,Kingman speaktr01,1908,,,,Tris,Speaker mantlmi01,1953,,,,Mickey,Mantle bettsmo01,2016,,,,Mookie,Betts snidedu01,1949,,,,Duke,Snider ashburi01,1951,,,,Richie,Ashburn maddugr01,1992,,,,Greg,Maddux radboch01,1885,,,,Old Hoss,Radbourn spahnwa01,1951,,,,Warren,Spahn brownke01,1992,,,Kevin,Brown deandi01,1940,,,,Dizzy,Dean ryanno01,1984,,,,Nolan,Ryan bendech01,1905,,,,Chief,Bender sallesl01,1916,,,,Slim,Sallee martipe02,2004,,,,Pedro,Martinez derripa01,1939,,,,Paul,Derringer covelst01,1921,,,,Stan,Coveleski papeljo01,2015,,,,Jonathan,Papelbon eckerde01,1984,,,,Dennis,Eckersley ueharko01,2016,,,,Koji,Uehara riverma01,1995,,,,Mariano,Rivera smoltjo01,1996,,,,John,Smoltz tazawju01,2016,,,,Junichi,Tazawa romose01,2008,,,,Sergio,Romo millean01,2016,,,,Andrew,Miller gossari01,1985,,,,Rich,Gossage mcdanli01,1955,,,,Lindy,McDaniel layneto01,2016,,,,Tommy,Layne 
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 Date: March 1st, prior to the opening of the 29th Super League Season Place: The Supreme Court Conference Room, Washington, DC  : Here we are again. The season should begin in the next month. : I ain’t got time to wait around! : I see that we have before us again the Vae Victis division. : Oh, woe. : You made that joke last season and it hasn’t improved any, Neil. : So, how did the season comply with our predictions? : Not well! We predicted the Generics to take the division handily… and they didn’t. : They didn’t even finish second. : And the Exiles won? Huh. How about that.: Maybe we’re not very good at this.(a SNORT of DERISION from the end of the table makes the JUSTICES look UP)  : I’ll say.: You’re still in time out, Sam. (ed note: See last season’s THRILLING CONCLUSION!) : Fine.(ALITO looks back down at his phone, which is running a ROMHACK titled “POKEMON: PROUD BOY”) : And the rest of us still have a job to do. (The JUSTICES groan) SCOTUS posted:SUPREME COURT OF THE UNITED STATES : And away we go.Catcher GENERICS- Bill Dickey (32)/Yogi Berra (24) BLUE JAYS- Mike Piazza (33) DEMON HUNTERS- Gabby Hartnett (24) EXILES- Ted Simmons(29)/Frank Chance (24) JUSTICE BREYER delivered the opinion of the Court, which JUSTICES ROBERTS, GINSBURG, SOTOMAYOR, and GORSUCH join, and which JUSTICE KAGAN joins as to parts I and II only.  : Catcher is an inherently difficult position to judge. Do we look for a catcher who handles pitchers well, in which case a Frank Chance is an excellent option. Do we look for one that can hit for power and occasionally for average, such as Mike Piazza? I. No, we take the second best catcher in the Super League, one Yogi Berra. The only thing that concerns this court is that Berra is listed as the small spoon - coming off Super League XXVIII where he hit .345 with 27 home runs. II. Mike Piazza and Gabby Hartnett are alike in that they are catchers with some modicum of power. Had the Demon Hunters saw fit to retain Mike Piazza as their starting catcher, deserved after he hit .301 with 23 home runs, we might have given them the nod. Yet, it is not to be. III. Finally, this court does not find it likely that the Exiles will find favor with their Simmons/Chance platoon. JUSTICE ALITO, with whom JUSTICE THOMAS joins, concurring in part and dissenting in part.  : We concur with the majority that the Dickey/Berra platoon is the best this division has to offer. But the majority asks us to undermine our own cause in these proceedings, by disparaging our own players - both past and present - with the lowest of rankings. Ted Simmons is an able catcher who will be able to match a Piazza or Hartnett, especially when paired with Frank Chance, who “has all of the qualities necessary to be an above average Super League catcher.” (Pander v. The MACHINE, 26 SL 223 at 280) We cannot join the majority in such foolishness.First Base GENERICS- Johnny Mize (25) DEMON HUNTERS- Frank Thomas (25) EXILES- Jimmie Foxx (34) BLUE JAYS- George Sisler (28) JUSTICE GINSBURG delivered the opinion of the Court, which JUSTICES ROBERTS, THOMAS, BREYER, ALITO, KAGAN, and SOTOMAYOR join, and which JUSTICE GORSUCH joins as to parts I and III only.  : Three out of the four stadiums in this division are at altitude. Two of them are opposites of each other, the Genericdome being death on right handed power hitters and Towa Tower equally painful for left handed power hitters.I. Yet Johnny Mize will hit in every single one of them. His power numbers will be inflated from the short porch at the Genericdome, but he still hits enough to be a quality player even in a place made to spite him such as Towa Tower. II. That leaves the real nettle of this matter, who’s second best. Jimmie Foxx is a better player than Frank Thomas in the Super League. But this Foxx is old and broken down. Thomas is in the prime of his career, and like Mize plays in a stadium tailor made for him. As such, The Big Hurt will perform better. III. Spare a thought for poor George Sisler, the speed/contact option in a division built for dingers. JUSTICE GORSUCH delivered a concurring opinion. : I write only to disagree with the majority on the question of Foxx. If he stays healthy, he will produce for the Exiles, and in greater abundance than Thomas.Second Base EXILES- Joe Morgan (33)/Rogers Hornsby (23) GENERICS- Charlie Gehringer (29)/Rogers Hornsby (36) BLUE JAYS- Joe Morgan (25) DEMON HUNTERS- Ryne Sandberg (27) JUSTICE ALITO delivered the opinion of the Court, which JUSTICES ROBERTS and GORSUCH join, and which Justice KAGAN joins in the judgment only. : The knotty question before us is what value a small spoon? Should it be considered a mere appurtenance to the large spoons production? Or should it be considered on its own merits?I. Should we determine that a small spoon is but an adjunct to the large spoon of a platoon, we would find it necessary to fall in favor of Gehringer, who has a greater track record and is of a more prime age than the Exile’s Morgan. But what of the Rogerses Hornsby? There is no disagreement that a 23 year old Hornsby will be better than a 36 year old Hornsby, and far more likely to last the season. As such, platoons must not be considered as an alloyed whole, but rather as an amalgam of the two parts. Under such examination, it is clear that the Exiles come out ahead of the Generics. II. Between Morgan and Sandberg, we must default to precedent on handedness. (Southpaws v. RCMP, 17 SL 235). Whatever advantages Sandberg brings from a defensive standpoint he will still be limited by the fact that he is a right handed hitter. JUSTICE KAGAN delivered a concurrence.  : While the majority’s conclusion is correct, the amalgam test made precedent will prove unworkable for lower courts. I would find that, in the case of a platoon, the individual platoon partners must be judged on their own merits, with consideration given to expected playing time as well as park effects. These are details a trial court is well equipped to explore.JUSTICE SOTOMAYOR delivered a dissent, which JUSTICES BREYER and GINSBURG join. : The majority focuses solely on the question of which platoon would be best, while not examining the merits of the individual players. Due to this failure, it reaches the wrong conclusion that the crux of this matter rests on the Hornsbys. Instead, the outcome should be clear as Gehringer is the best player of all here, and that makes the quibbling moot.JUSTICE THOMAS delivered a dissent.  : Once again, both the majority and the dissent miss the forest for the trees by ignoring the origin of the Super League. There is only one Chicago Cub here, and it is Ryne Sandberg.Shortstop EXILES- The MACHINE (AGELESS) BLUE JAYS- Cal Ripken, Jr. (31) DEMON HUNTERS- Cal Ripken, Jr. (32) GENERICS- Honus Wagner (23) JUSTICE THOMAS delivered the unanimous opinion of the Court. : I’m still only here so I don’t get fined. : Goddamnit, Clarence.Third Base EXILES- Wade Boggs (33) BLUE JAYS- George Brett (29) DEMON HUNTERS- Mike Schmidt (31) GENERICS- Larry Jones (30) JUSTICE KAGAN delivered the unanimous opinion of the Court. : It is not in our power to grant the relief requested by Towa City in the matter of Mike Schmidt. While we are of one mind that the greatest third baseman of all time should be treated better by the Mogul engine, it is an issue for the Smasher House and Dynamo Senate to rectify. With a heavy heart we reverse and remand.Left Field GENERICS- Teddy Ballgame (33) DEMON HUNTERS- Frank Robinson The Youngest (27) BLUE JAYS- Al Simmons (27) EXILES- Goose Goslin (24)/RRRRIGGS Stephenson (32) JUSTICE ROBERTS delivered the opinion of the Court, which JUSTICES GINSBURG, BREYER, ALITO, KAGAN, SOTOMAYOR, and GORSUCH join. : It is a rare player that can outshine a talent such as Frank Robinson in his prime. Yet that is no question for Thaddeus Tedward Twombly Ballgame. No sane jurist can question this, nor any court in the land deny it.JUSTICE THOMAS delivered a dissent.  : The majority forgets about the platoon advantage, and I cannot say I agree with that. Without a severability clause, the entire ranking must fall.(the other JUSTICES turn and STARE at THOMAS) : What, I have a reputation as an iconoclast to protect.Center Field DEMON HUNTERS- Willie Mays (28) GENERICS- Barry Bonds (30) BLUE JAYS- Billy Hamilton (32) EXILES- Tris Speaker (36) JUSTICE GORSUCH delivered the opinion of the Court, which JUSTICES GINSBURG, BREYER, KAGAN, and SOTOMAYOR join, and which JUSTICES ROBERTS, ALITO, and THOMAS join as to parts I and III. : What is the ideal centerfielder? Is it great defense combined with a powerful bat? Or just the ability to stand out there in between crushing dongs? Perhaps having an iron glove while stealing scores of bases? Some even suggest being ancient and cursing your younger selves before crumbling to dust after the all-star break.I. The ideal center fielder is Willie Mays. He hits for power and gets on base. He has the range of a deadballer combined with knowing how to use a glove. He even has a bit of speed. Which brings us to the question before the Court - what can be pared away from Mays while retaining his qualities? II. Barry Bonds evinces the qualities of Mays’s bat, while playing poor defense. Is that enough? What about “Sliding Billy” Hamilton, who has the range of Mays as well as much more speed? Here, the answer is in their gloves. Hamilton will get to far more balls than Bonds, and will likely record more outs. Yet Bonds’s fielding percentage will be higher, and negate Hamilton’s advantage. This court was in error in determining that Bonds was the worst center fielder in this division. To follow precedent for the sake of precedent would merely compound that error. III. Lastly, we come to Speaker. We do not take our decision lightly, a productive Speaker is among the best options for center field available. Yet this is a 36 year old edition. He may hit, for a while. But his end too quickly approaches for him to match the power of Bonds or the speed of Hamilton. JUSTICE ROBERTS delivered a dissent, which JUSTICES THOMAS and ALITO joined.  : Danger lurks in ignoring precedent, it undermines faith in the legitimacy and lasting nature of our entire system. Even if I disagreed with the decision at the time, I would not now overturn it.Right Field BLUE JAYS- Babe Ruth (32) EXILES- Hank Aaron (25) DEMON HUNTERS- Frank Robinson the Younger (28) GENERICS- Mel Ott (34) PER CURIAM. Designated Hitter EXILES- Albert Pujols (23) GENERICS- Stan Musial (37) BLUE JAYS- Rogers Hornsby (28) DEMON HUNTERS- Frank Robinson the Elder (29) JUSTICE ALITO delivered the opinion of the Court, which JUSTICES ROBERTS, THOMAS, GORSUCH, and KAVANAUGH join. : In the annals of baseball, Frank Robinson is a real good player. In the annals of the Super-League, he is not. This is especially true considering the set asides provided him by Towa City, which have been found unconstitutional since Regents of University of California v. Bakke. (438 U.S. 265 (1978)). Four Frank Robinsons given sinecure on the same team? REVERSED AND REMANDED. : (obviously drunk) Totally, bros. God I love being on SCOTUS almost as much as I love beer and being a sex criminal!: Thanks, Brett. Now kindly gently caress off, we only needed you for your vote.JUSTICE GINSBURG delivered a dissent, which JUSTICES BREYER, KAGAN, and SOTOMAYOR join. : The majority has once again discriminated on the basis of race, while pretending not to. This result flies in the face of Super-League precedent, where the Hoboken Zephyrs rostered seven different Curts Schilling. Yet it is only when TheMcD’s penchant for collecting as many of one player as he can results in a minority being given significant playing time that the majority raises an eyebrow. This farce is of a piece with the majority’s past jurisprudence, and it is deadly to the ideals of the Super League.Bench DEMON HUNTERS-Mike Piazza (26)/Jeff Kent (29)/Alex Rodriguez (34)/Ed Delahanty (34)/Frank Robinson the Eldest (30) BLUE JAYS- Rickey Henderson (23)/Robbie Alomar (24)/Ted Simmons (31)/Ed Delahanty (23)/Ernie Banks (29) EXILES- Craig Biggio (24)/Eddie Murray (31)/Platoon Partners GENERICS- George Davis (31)/Mickey Mantle ( 35)/Joe Sewell (24)/Platoon Partners Justice SOTOMAYOR delivered the unanimous opinion of the Court.  : It has long been precedent that teams gleaning an advantage in preview rankings gleaned by platooning cannot “double dip” by not having the bench rankings take into account said advantages. We uphold this line of cases.: Now if only you’d think that way about double taxation...Staff Ace BLUE JAYS- Greg Maddux (30) GENERICS- Big Train (24) DEMON HUNTERS- Bobby Mathews the Elder (29) EXILES- Kid Nichols (28) JUSTICE GINSBURG delivered the Opinion of the Court, which JUSTICES ROBERTS, BREYER, ALITO, KAGAN, and SOTOMAYOR join. : There is a pitcher in this division who matches Prime Maddux for reliability and effectiveness, but he is not to be found here. Of the remainder, Walter Johnson is closest to true ace quality, while Mathews the Elder and Nichols both are judged and found wanting.JUSTICE SOTOMAYOR delivered a concurrence. : While the question of Towa City’s 19th Century groundball rotation is not reached in this particular matter, I would find that their Bobbys Mathew and Jims McCormick are unable to be ranked in the same manner as a Walter Johnson or Greg Maddux. They are an interesting attempt to subvert the standard paradigm, beyond the overall league love of deadball era pitchers.JUSTICE GORSUCH delivered a dissent, which JUSTICE THOMAS joins. : The lower courts and the majority pays too little attention to the matter of HR/9, which is especially important given the black letter law of Park Factors. We would reverse and remand for greater scrutiny of that particular issue.Second Starter GENERICS- Lefty Grove (27) DEMON HUNTERS- Jim McCormick the Slightly Younger (27) EXILES- Tommy Bond (20) BLUE JAYS- Juan Marichal (27) JUSTICE KAGAN delivered the unanimous opinion of the Court. : How much does a players home park matter? Should an owner risk the wrath of Smasher to shuffle their rotation so that their left handed pitchers start in their favorable stadium? Or should they pray that they don’t start away against the right handed power hitting club?I. We cannot answer these questions, but we can determine that Lefty Grove is the best amongst these pitchers. Throughout his threescore seasons in the Super League, Grove has never allowed a HR/9 above one. While this impressive statistic is not unique amongst his peers, his track record is considerably longer. II. There is one pitcher who is not like the others, however, and Juan Marichal could be in for a long season. There’s naught to do for the Blue Jays but hope that he can keep the ball down. Third Starter EXILES- Pete Alexander the Younger (24) GENERICS- Old Train (35) DEMON HUNTERS- Bobby Mathews the Younger (23) BLUE JAYS- Clayton Kershaw (23) DISMISSED AS IMPROVIDENTLY GRANTED. Fourth Starter DEMON HUNTERS- Jim McCormick the Slightly Elder (28) BLUE JAYS- Don Drysdale (24) GENERICS- Christy Mathewson (35) EXILES- Noodles Hahn (24) RELISTED FOR THE SL XXX TERM. Fifth Starter EXILES- Pete Alexander the Elder (34) DEMON HUNTERS- Candy Cummings (27) GENERICS- Noodles Hahn (26) BLUE JAYS- Ron Guidry (31) JUSTICE GORSUCH delivered the opinion of the Court, which JUSTICES ROBERTS, THOMAS, BREYER, ALITO, and KAGAN join. : Simplicity is best in matters both legal and baseball. Pete Alexander is a star of the Super League, with a much longer track record than the other three hurlers combined. He does not need the righty-killing power of the Genericdome as Hahn, or the slick fielding defense of the Demon Hunters as Cummings. We make our ruling based upon the record built by last season’s trial. Alexander was best then, and will likely be best again.JUSTICE SOTOMAYOR delivered a dissent, which JUSTICE GINSBURG joins. : The Court is blinded by an august name in the autumn of their career. We cannot be sure that Candy Cummings would outperform him, much less lefty Noodles Hahn, but prudence states that a 34 year old arm is less likely to survive a season than one in its mid-20s. We would remand for further consideration as to this aspect.Bullpen DEMON HUNTERS- Mariano Rivera(32)/Jonathan Papelbon (29)/Craig Kimbrel (28)/Rob Dibble (25)/Dennis Eckersley (32)/Jim Devlin (27) EXILES- Jonathan Papelbon (27)/ Robb Nen (26)/ Dave Smith (35)/ Pedro Borbon (28)/Hung Chih Kuo (29)/ Nap Rucker (27) BLUE JAYS- Aroldis Chapman (25)/Dennis Eckersley (27)/Rollie Fingers (34)/John Smoltz (35)/ Frank Tanana(25)/Nolan Ryan (35) GENERICS- Trevor Hoffman (28)/Sergio Romo (29)/Rollie Fingers (23)/Bruce Sutter (25)/Ron Perranoski (34)/Tim Keefe (25) JUSTICE ROBERTS delivered the unanimous opinion of the Court. : To misuse Tolstoi, bullpens are like families. All effective ones are alike, and all ineffective ones are ineffective in different ways. I. So it was last season, with Towa City’s impressive pen blowing games on the regular thanks to poor performances from Mariano Rivera and Dennis Eckersley. Yet they were the strongest bullpen in the division on paper last season, and they have only reinforced themselves. II. Behind them come the Exiles, who might have actually been better last season, and then the newcomer Blue Jays of Philadelphia. And last come the Generics, who would be grateful if their relievers could perform to the standard of that word. This is not a difficult question on the merits, yet we recognize that our prediction might well be wrong. If that proves true, blame Clarence. (THOMAS awakens) : What was that?PREDICTED FINISHES: 1. Towa City Demon Hunters, 88-74 (Division Winner) 2. Rochester Generics, 86-76 3. Oriath Exiles, 85-77 4. Philadelphia Blue Jays 76-86 (Repechage) habeasdorkus fucked around with this message at 13:29 on Aug 7, 2020 |
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 Stadium: Algonquin Provincial Park Location: Toronto, Ontario Structure: Open (or Convertible if Open stadiums can't have artifical turf) Surface: Artificial Turf Infield Quality: Excellent Infield Grass: Very High Visibility: Average Foul Ground: Average Stadium Dimensions: (I just copied and pasted the 1923 Yankee Stadium dimensions from wiki) Left Field – 318 feet Left-Center – 399 feet Center Field – 408 feet Right-Center – 385 feet Right Field – 314 feet Strategy Pitchout: +3 Int Walk: -4 Pitch Around: +1 Pinch Hit: +1 The rest can stay neutral/default code:SP1 1907 Deacon Philippe (35) R SP2 1902 Joe McGinnity (31) R SP3 1978 Rick Reuschel (29) R SP4 1908 Christy Mathewson (27) R SP5 1921 Smoky Joe Wood (31) R Bullpen CL 1978 Bruce Sutter (25) R SU 1994 Mike Timlin (28) R SR 1987 Tim Burke (28) R SR 2016 Tony Watson (31) L MR 1970 Jim Kaat (31) L LR 1976 Burt Hooton (26) R Lineup vs RHP RF 1919 Babe Ruth (24) L LF 1923 Babe Ruth (28) L DH 1925 Babe Ruth (30) L CF 1908 Tris Speaker (20) L 1B 1965 Pete Rose (24) S C 1908 Roger Bresnahan (29) R 3B 2003 Placido Polanco (27) R SS 2011 Troy Tulowitzki (26) R 2B 1991 Jose Oquendo (27) S Bench vs RHP C 1901 Frank Chance (24) R SS 1995 Omar Vizquel (28) S OF 1922 Charlie Jamieson (29) L CF 1935 Wally Berger (29) R 3B 1967 Brooks Robinson R (30) Lineup vs LHP 1B 1965 Pete Rose (24) S RF 1919 Babe Ruth (24) L CF 1935 Wally Berger (29) R LF 1923 Babe Ruth (28) L C 1908 Roger Bresnahan (29) R DH 1925 Babe Ruth (30) L SS 2011 Troy Tulowitzki (26) R 3B 1967 Brooks Robinson (30) R 2B 1991 Jose Oquendo (27) S Bench vs LHP C 1901 Frank Chance (24) R SS 1995 Omar Vizquel (28) S OF 1922 Charlie Jamieson (29) L CF 1908 Tris Speaker (20) L IF 2003 Placido Polanco (27) R Minors SP 1904 Chief Bender (20) R SS 2017 Andrelton Simmons (27) R CF 1997 Ken Griffey Jr. (27) L UT/C 1901 Jack Doyle (31) R OF 1919 Amos Strunk (30) L 1B 2014 Freddie Freeman (24) L some other jerks
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 Home City: St Johns, Canada Home Stadium: PNC Park 25-Man Roster: C Gabby Hartnett 1925 SP Pete Alexander 1925 OF Paul Waner 1931 3B Ron Santo 1973 SP Rick Reuschel 1973 CL Bob Locker 1973 2B Nap Lajoie 1904 SP Frank Tanana 1904 SP Addie Joss 1904 SS 1940 Arky Vaughan (from Giants) OF 1955 Ted Williams (from Giants) RP 2015 Craig Kimbrel (from Panderers) C 1924 Bubbles Hargrave (from Panderers) SP 1977 Nolan Ryan SS 1995 Barry Larkin RP 1983 Gary Lavelle (from Honkbalers) 3B 1991 Edgar Martinez CF 1913 Ty Cobb CL The Elusive Closer RP 2009 Mike Adams (from Demon Hunters) SP 1881 Old Hoss Radbourn 1B 1991 Rafael Palmeiro (from Drunk Team) 1B 2007 Albert Pujols (from Misanthropes) OF 1965 Mickey Mantle 2B 1988 Robin Yount RP 1982 Frank Tanana Minors: OF 1994 Ken Griffey Jr. (from Honkbalers) IF 1949 Bob Elliott (from Panderers) SP 1973 Fergie Jenkens OF 1993 Gary Sheffield (from Demon Hunters) OF 1973 Billy Williams 2B 1928 Buddy Myer RP 1982 Frank Tanana (from Rakers) SP 1973 Rick Reuschel (another one!) 1B 1994 Jeff Bagwell (from Tsars) SP 1904 Red Donahue SP 1889 Old Hoss Radbourn DH vs Righties: 1. Ted Williams DH 2. Mickey Mantle LF 3. Paul Waner RF 4. Ty Cobb CF 5. Gabby Hartnett C 6. Nap Lajoie 2B 7. Rafael Palmeiro 1B 8. Arky Vaughan SS 9. Edgar Martinez 3B DH vs Lefties: 1. Nap Lajoie 2B 2. Edgar Martinez 3B 3. Paul Waner RF 4. Ted Williams DH 5. Mickey Mantle LF 6. Albert Pujols 1B 7. Barry Larkin SS 8. Ty Cobb CF 9. Gabby Hartnett C Pitching Rotation: 1. Old Hoss 2. Pete Alexander 3. Addie Joss 4. Nolan Ryan 5. Rick Reuschel Make Bubbles Hargrave the personal catcher for Ryan. Relief Pitchers: CL The Elusive Closer Setup Craig Kimbrel Short Relief Bob Locker Short Relief Mike Adams Middle Relief Gary Lavelle Middle Relief Frank Tanana Bench 3B Ron Santo 1973 C 1924 Bubbles Hargrave (from Panderers) 2B 1988 Robin Yount Strategy (Rate on a scale from -5 to +5) Hit and Run: 2 Sacrifice Bunt: 0 Squeeze Play: 0 Trying for extra bases: 2 Stealing Bases: 0 Aggressively Tagging Up: 3 Pitch Outs (to prevent stolen bases): 0 Giving Intentional Walks: 0 Pitching Around Good Hitters: 0 Bringing the Infield In: 0 Guarding the Lines: 0 Making Cutoff Throws: 0 Bringing in Pinch Hitters: 0 Bringing in Pinch Runners: 2 Bringing in Defensive Replacements: 5 Starting Pitchers on Short Rest: 0 Letting pitchers pitch throw trouble: 0 Letting Pitchers rack up high pitch counts: 3 CSV: No CSV for The Elusive Closer code:Pungry fucked around with this message at 23:55 on Jul 27, 2020 |
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 HONKHONK Stadium Home Stadium: The House of Honkbal City: The Hague (Use New Orleans for mogul)  25 Man Roster C: 1933 Mickey Cochrane C: 1938 Ernie Lombardi 1B/3B: 1934 Jimmie Foxx 1B/3B: 1933 Jimmie Foxx 2B: 1985 Lou Whitaker 2B: 1983 Paul Molitor SS: 1958 Ernie Banks SS: 1991 Cal Ripken Jr 3B: 1983 George Brett 1B/LF/3B: Volk Hammer OF: 1960 Hank Aaron COF: 1965 Frank Robinson CF: 1913 Tris Speaker CF: 1950 Joe Dimaggio SP: 1913 Smokey Joe Wood SP: 1861 Jim Creighton SP: 1913 Chief Bender SP: 1922 Red Faber SP: 1925 Pete Alexander SP: 1907 Babe Adams RP: 1995 John Smoltz RP: 1995 John Smoltz RP: 1905 Al Orth RP: 1979 Gary Lavelle RP: 2009 mariano Rivera Minors 1955 Vern Stephens 1913 Ray Collins 1933 Rube Walberg 2013 Adam Dunn 1933 Max Bishop 1948 Larry Jansen 1973 Billy Williams 1934 Bob Johnson 1925 Bob O'farrell 1983 Steve Sax 1969 mel stottlemyre 1998 Roberto Alomar 1946 Cecil Travis 1982 Bobby Grich 1996 Mike Jackson 1982 Robin Yount 1928 Red Ruffing code:Vs. RHP CF Tris Speaker 3B George Brett 1B Jimmie Foxx (elder) DH Volk Hammer C Mickey Cochrane LF Frank Robinson RF Hank Aaron 2B Lou Whitaker SS Ernie Banks Vs. LHP CF Tris Speaker DH Volk Hammer 1B Jimmie Foxx (elder) 3B Jimmie Foxx (Younger) RF Hank Aaron LF Frank Robinson C Ernie Lombardi SS Ernie Banks 2B Paul molitor Rotation SP1: Smokey Joe Wood SP2: Jim Creighton SP3: Chief Bender SP4: Babe Adams SP5: Pete Alexander Bullpen CL: Mariano Rivera SU: John Smoltz SR: John Smoltz SR: Gary Lavelle MR: Al Orth LR: Red Faber Strategy (Rate on a scale from -5 to +5) Hit and Run: -2 Sacrifice Bunt: -3 Squeeze Play: -4 Trying for extra bases: 0 Stealing Bases: -4 Aggressively Tagging Up: 1 Pitch Outs (to prevent stolen bases): 2 Giving Intentional Walks: -2 Pitching Around Good Hitters: 0 Bringing the Infield In: -4 Guarding the Lines: 2 Making Cutoff Throws: 1 Bringing in Pinch Hitters: -3 Bringing in Pinch Runners: -5 Bringing in Defensive Replacements: -4 Starting Pitchers on Short Rest: 1 Letting pitchers pitch through trouble: 1 Letting Pitchers rack up high pitch counts: 1 Paul Zuvella fucked around with this message at 16:56 on Jul 25, 2020 |
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SL XXIX Senor Goodtimes Preview: The Joke Referenced In The Division's Name is Older Than Half the Owners in the Thread Greetings once again! If you're reading this from the future, this is a time of mass protests, a disease rampaging out of control, and a real-life baseball season of truncated games and truncated expectations. That is why we turn to fantasies like the Super-League to manage our ever increasing despair, in which case we see Pander here demolish all your dreams and then get knocked out in the first round by a team from the Netherlands. Womp womp! In the event: Senor Goodtimes. Home of the Panderers and some other teams that sort of matter. The King remains, the peasants shuffle about largely beneath his notice. Though, as of late the division has settled into a state of semi-stagnation, as the Crows have taken the spot of lesser foil to Pander from the dearly departed Widowmakers/Golden Tsars, with the Forgettables evicting the Landers from the role of "third wheel" and a rotating cast of cattle to be stripped for wins then cast back into the Sub-Par. Will the cycle be broken? Likely not. Let's get this over with.  Does this team really need an introduction? The Portland Panderers when not setting Federal courthouses ablaze (strictly for the fun of it, not out of any greater ideological meaning) relies on speed, contact, and insuperable strikeout pitching to have his way with the League. Last season he kind of slummed it because he wanted to see how "not winning" felt like and still casually picked off a wildcard, because that's who he is. It was still a shock to see him not lock up the division in May, but it's all part of his inscrutable plans.  Momma Mia! The Kobe Crows won against the division last season! With a bevy of some of the finest players from the Negro League, the question often was not "how far will HulkaMatt get in the playoffs," but rather "how will HulkaMatt gently caress this up and possibly avoid demotion?" But now! He has added the power of NEW HOSS to the lineup. What hath Smasher wrought?  In the shadow of the titans, lay in wait the Omaha Forgettables. Their role: to not die. And to be fair, they've been pretty good at this "not dying." They exist. They have enough talent to not be immediately ruined. They do not have enough talent to stand out. Truly, their commitment to their gimmick of being largely unremarkable and unmemorable is...well, not necessarily commendable. But it exists. Barely.  It's a newcomer! Long timer Triad associate forzelt brings fresh from his victory in the EC the Horny Goats! It's a new team so I expect pain. Lots and lots of pain. Catchers 1. 1934 Josh Gibson (KOB) 2. 1926 Mickey Cochrane (OMA) 3. 1879 Deacon White / 1889 King Kelly (PAN) [?] ???? SUPER BUBBLES (GOA) I've done my spiel about Josh Gibson: he was the Negro League's equivalent of Babe Ruth. Except he was a catcher. Which is a bit like having Teddie Ballgame play a 2B. A defense premium position with one of the best bats in the game. Cool. So...that's easy. Mickey Cochrane will have a bit of oomph, won't strike out as much, isn't as cool as Babe Ruth in a catcher's mask. Deacon White is a guy who belongs to a weird era where people hit like .400 because their "competition" had to show up at the Horrifying Workplace Injuries factory on Mondays and work 44 hour shifts, so it's not quite pro ball as we know it today or even as it existed at the turn of the 20th century. But he's got contact and a rocket arm. SUPER BUBBLES could be the greatest catcher ever or a bust, like the last half-dozen EC prize catchers were. Who knows!? First Basemen 1. 19?? Buck Leonard (KOB) 2. 2012 Albert Pujols (OMA) 3. 1970 Pete Rose (PAN) 4. 1928 George Grantham (GOA) In a just world, we'd talk about Gehrig as being the white Buck Leonard. As it stands, Leonard is really good and that's all which needs to be said. Pujols is old and not getting better, but given the choice here of slap hitter and rear end in a top hat Pete Rose and George Grantham, I begrudgingly give it to Poo-holes. Pete Rose is a modern slap hitter and while he got his hits record because he was player-manager and inserted himself into the lineup when he had no earthly right to, he's still the hits leader. George Grantham is a guy. That's...really it. Oh! He played a lot of 2B so yeah. Second Basemen 1. 1920 Eddie Collins / 1924 Lew Fonseca (PAN) 1985 Lou Whitaker (OMA) 1974 Joe Morgan (KOB) 1928 Bobby Doerr (GOA) So I thought long and hard about this. Eddie Collins is, well, in the hands of Pander, Eddie Collins. He'll hit some ridiculous average and make you all sad. The rest? They're all great; greats of their era, justifiable for any ordering you want. Whitaker belongs in the Hall and has pop in his bat. Morgan is perhaps the best hitting second baser post integration, but Mogul has...issues with players from the 60s and 70s. Bobby Doerr is low key one of the most balanced players at 2B, with league-leading bat skills and a superb glove, in an era that included people like Ted Williams, DiMaggio, Musial, and Ott. Whether they'll actually hit like their actual stats indicate? Yeah. Pick a number, any number. Third Basemen 1. 1980 George Brett (KOB) 2. 1900 John McGraw / 1928 Pie Traynor (PAN) 3. 1952 George Kell (OMA) 4. 1928 Pie Traynor (GOA) Third base. It's bad. George Brett ought to get more respect and maybe Mogul is slowly warming up to him. In the event he's got, by far, the most upside so there. John McGraw exists so that a hundred years after he played his last game his spirit can be captured by a fiendish Pander using a diabolical machine to distill the very essence of what the Panderers ought be into a handy digital persona. His tortured screams as he's forced to steal bags and hit for a high average is a necessary hazard of playing with powers that would drat a man's soul. But he's basically the platonic ideal of a third baseman for Pander, so Faust would say "Hey, that's not a bad deal." George Kell exists as the sort of replacement level third baseman in the Super-League. He's not great, but he's not terrible. Pie Traynor exists because the Hall said "oh poo poo, do we have any third basemen in the Hall???" and saw that you can't live with only Home Run Baker as your positional representative. You can't quite live with Pie Traynor AND Home Run Baker as such, but you know, they're working on it! Shortstop 1. 1957 Ernie Banks (OMA) 2. 1939 Arky Vaughan / 1987 Alan Trammell (KOB) 3. 1941 Arky Vaughan (GOA) 4. 1897 George Davis (PAN) These are, despite the relative rankings...largely okay? Ernie Banks is at this age an actual threat at the plate and can play his position with panache. The Arkys Vaughan can credibly play the position and can slap a bunch of hits. Gorgeous George disappeared from history after his playing career ended and it took Bill James apparently a decade to discover what happened to him. But he's young and hale and probably not syphilitic? You'll have to forgive Mogul's understanding of what a "baseball glove" means in fin de siecle baseball, but otherwise he'll be okay. I guess? Maybe. Left Fielders 1. 1946 Ted Williams (GOA) 2. 1948 Stan Musial (KOB) 3. 1995 Gary Sheffield (OMA) 4. 1927 Goose Goslin / Hugh Duffy 1898 (PAN) Come on. It's Ted loving Williams back from the war and in the prime of life. Not that he didn't also hit the ball into the stratosphere with impunity as late as a decade later, but yeah. Stan Musial is diminished by the presence of Ted Williams only in the sense that were you to put the Sun next to Rigel, Rigel is brighter. Either way you go blind looking at either. Gary Sheffield is a modern hitter of no small caliber who ought be in the Hall but ... Mitchell Report. You know the deal. In the event he doesn't stack up with the last two. Goose Goslin is the closest thing to a power hitter on Pander's team. That's a complete accident; the thing to focus on, as usual, is his excellent contact skills. What he contributes is as a cog in the singles hitting machine, which means, in a sense, his actual placement on this list is also a completely accidental thing of no consequence. Center Fielders 1. 1921 Oscar Charleston (KOB) 2. 1960 Willie Mays (GOA) 3. 1958 Richie Ashburn (PAN) 4. 1916 Edd Roush / 1989 Rickey Henderson (OMA) Oscar Charleston is great. He was the heart of the Losers, and he'll be great for the Crows. He cannot be failed, only failed. Which makes his ranking here precarious because it's HulkaMatt, but still! I have faith. Willie Mays is the career Charleston could have had with less racism. Mays is also saddled with the curse of the era he plays in with this version of Mogul, but yeah. The greatest CF of all time deserves it. Richie Ashburn exists to reflect the pale splendor of Willie Mays. His main thing, if you can call it that, is being an OBP machine that for whatever reason Mogul also does not like. C'est la vie. In the event, short of a Ty Cobb this is a perfectly reasonable person to trot out in CF for the Panderers. Edd Roush doesn't belong here. Rickey won't start in enough games to offset the fact that Edd Roush is Not Good. Right Fielders 1. 1918 Babe Ruth (KOB) 2. ???? El Shaddai (OMA) 3. 1928 Paul Waner (GOA) 4. 1936 Paul Waner (PAN) An embarrassment of riches. Babe Ruth is Babe Ruth and that's really that. El Shaddai may be G-d, he might be some guy who happens to glow with divine radiance and drive in 20+ dingers a year, but he's no Babe Ruth. But you wouldn't refuse him the cleanup spot on your line up, unless you want to be smited. Or lose. The Paul Waners are singles machines that somehow absorb singles from other at-bats to get credited with more hits. We're not sure how it happens, but you can't argue their effectiveness. Young Waner is better than Waner who's at the edge cliff of effectiveness. But seeing as Pander has gotten so much mileage out of this one it's a minor quibble. Designated Hitter 1. 1994 Barry Bonds (KOB) 2. 1989 Rickey Henderson / 1926 Jimmie Foxx (OMA) 3. 1899 Cupid Childs / 1920 Eddie Collins (PAN) 4. 1908 Honus Wagner (GOA) This is less than inspiring. Barry will rake and that's fine! That's what you're supposed to do in this position. Okay then. Rickey and literal child Foxx are not an ideal platoon, but if that's what you have, then that's what you have. Cupid Childs is like a meme that has gone on for so long we don't remember why it's funny or why we keep trotting it out, only that it feels more and more inappropriate but we can't stop now. Also if he ever finds himself on the field, as Mogul is at times wont, bad things will happen. Honus is a great bat...for a SS. He'll hit your empty .300 and you'll like it. He's also old enough that doing it consistently may not be guaranteed. Ah well! Bench (N.b. platoon partners batting against LHP are listed here.) 1. Fisk/Carew/Mathews/Trammel/Mantle (KOB) 2. Duffy/Fonseca/Kelly/Traynor/Travis (PAN) 3. Mauer/Simmons/Vizquel/Rolen/Foxx/Henderson (OMA) 4. Thomas/York/Clarke/Pesky/Stephens (GOA) There are enough platoons here that in a sense it doesn't matter? The Crows have talent that could start on other teams sitting on their bench, largely unloved. The Panderers literally do start their bench on almost alternate days. The Forgettables kind of exist. The Goats should pray to whatever deity that their bench is not tested. Such is life as an EC team. Starting Pitching 1. New Hoss/Martinez/Waddell/Bradley/Kershaw (KOB) 2. Kershaw/Bumgarner/Hamels/Price/Johnson (PAN) 3. Mathewson/Old Hoss/Leever/Phillipe/Willis (GOA) 4. Plank/Mullin/Sallee/Spalding/Grove (OMA) Controversial: a rotation anchored by New Hoss, a nuclear powered monstrosity more pitcher than man, is the one which has the best chances for success. I know, right!? Now, this isn't an opinion solely looking at New Hoss, but the fact that Martinez/Waddell ought be enough to anchor down the rest of the rotation. I have no idea why Kershaw isn't in the four spot over Bradley, but Bradley seems to be that sort of pitcher who randomly does super well in the SL. Whatever I guess??? The Panderers take a modern rotation and make it work. Twelve seasons of data back this up. The Goats have a Mathewson/Old Hoss top of the rotation and a middling back half, while the Forgettables sort of middling rotation all around. The best these two can be said is that their expectations is eating many, many innings with mediocrity, which often is all one can expect. Bullpens 1. Wagner/Wagner/Chapman/F. Rodriguez/P. Rodriguez/Carlton (PAN) 2. Rivera/Quisenberry/Brabosky/Gossage/Rivera/Maddux (KOB) 3. Henke/Gregerson/Ramos/Cormier/Sutter/Mathewson (OMA) 4. Kinder/Murphy/Neshak/Brown/Hughson/Camnitz (GOA) Bullpens are crapshoots typically but a clear order is available to us here. Two Wagners!? Such opulence! Such arrogance! This is not a contest with the Panderers snatching the title of best bullpen with ease. It's two Mo Riveras! Their combined age is like 1000000, which sort of explains their particular political views, seeing as their frame of reference is scrawling box scores on the walls of caves with animal dung and charcoal. Really, you should check out Lescaux caves, where neolithic hunters described their hunting methods, drew hands, fashioned arrowheads, and recorded TOOTBLANs for millennia to come. The Forgettables at least try, though it wins few prizes, which is more than can be said for the Goats, who suffer the problem that if you're not specifically purchasing a team for its bullpen then you stick your leftovers here. And these are leftovers which have funky colors and smell pretty bad and will give you runny shits for the next week. Errata and Conclusion Some subtle and some not-so-subtle stadium effects. The Panderers do not want your dingers. Go away. The Forgettables slip in a dinger stadium with a bandbox of a stadium and hope y'all don't notice. The Crows actually get a more or less perfectly neutral stadium. The Goats are the same for the most part, with a very minor bias towards hitting given it's not sitting at sea level. That leads the Panderers to have the most fully thought-out strategy of speed-singles-pitcher type boost. The Crows are kind of all over the place with their talent so it probably doesn't lend itself towards a strong strategy one way or another. The Forgettables are closest to the older school of "deadballers to avoid giving up dingers, sluggers hit dingers" and they play in a stadium that helps in that regard. The Goats exist. The real question, with the Panderers and the Crows fighting at the top, is who gets the boot on the bottom. That sort of depends on whether the Goats get a custom player worthy of the trouble, if they or the other teams have injuries (which the Panderers and the Crows can absorb), or if Smasher will tweak the simulation parameters to throw expectations out the window. That's the biggest wildcard. In the end though, I suspect I will be able to recycle the large majority of this preview in SLXXX and slot in the poor unfortunate soul that gets to replace the Goats after their wholly foreseeable and expected demotion. Sorry forzelt.
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I'd rather call them The The, but here are The Mets. I'll get on my regular roster as soon as possible. Stadium: Shea Stadium code:code:code:code:code:
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INSERT TEAM NAME HERE - Now with 4x Pujols! 25 Man Roster: code:code:code:code:code:code:Insert Field Name Here Altitude: 560 (whatever so long as it's not Denver) Infield Quality: Fair Infield Grass: Very High Visibility: Average Foul Ground: Average Left Field: 330 Center Left: 350 Center: 395 Center Right: 385 Right: 350 Strategies: Hit and Run: 0 Sacrifice Bunt: -3 Squeeze Play: -1 Extra bases: 1 Stealing Bases: 0 Tagging Up 0 Pitchouts 0 IBBs 0 Pitching Around 1 Infield In 0 Guard Lines 0 Cutoff throws 0 Pinch hit 0 Pinch run 1 Def. Replacements 3 Short Rest 0 Pitch through trouble 1 Pitch counts 1 ITNH Minors CSV (& Strasburg): code:TheoSqua fucked around with this message at 14:35 on Jul 29, 2020 |
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Uh, Theo, you might want to also post your minor leaguers. e: And you accidentally left Lon Wernecke in your CSV instead of Strasburg. ITNH Minors CSV (& Strasburg): liebemi01,2007,,,,Mike,Lieberthal kendrho01,2014,,,,Howie,Kendrick kentje01,2007,,,,Jeff,Kent ramirha01,2012,,,,Hanley,Ramirez furcara01,2007,,,,Rafael,Furcal jonesch06,1995,,,,Chipper,Jones abreubo01,2012,,,,Bobby,Abreu donlimi01,1908,,,,Mike,Donlin griffke02,1991,,,,Ken, Griffey Jr. ortizda01,2016,,,,David,Ortiz greinza01,2012,,,,Zack,Greinke peavyja01,2009,,,,Jake,Peavy harenda01,2011,,,,Dan,Haren buehrma01,2002,,,,Mark,Buehrle polleho01,1942,,,,Howie,Pollet streehu01,2014,,,,Huston,Street salasfe01,2014,,,,Fernando,Salas weaveje02,2012,,,,Jered,Weaver waldejo01,2012,,,,Jordan,Walden strasst01,2012,,,,Stephen Strasburg habeasdorkus fucked around with this message at 14:13 on Jul 27, 2020 |
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 I ain't got no motivation. If the team dies, it dies.  Team Information: code:code:code:code:code:code:
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As a public service announcement, here are the remaining owners and teams that need to post final rosters: tatankatonk - Akabira Killer Mikes AmyL - Limes of Harry Lime Nissin Cup Nudist - Gritty's Chosen Jampact/kensei - Centralia Corgis mrnoun - Luna Landers We also need previewers for the Mark Bellhorn, Memento Mori, and Geese Howard Memorial divisions.
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Landers I am waiting on one last move to finalize my roster for the coming season, but here is a provisional lineup for preview purposes: Catcher: Mickey Cochrane 1935 (age 32) vs R; Russ Martin 2007 (age 24) vs L First Base: John Olerud 1998 (age 29) Second Base: Lou Whitaker 1983 (age 26) vs R; Bobby Grich 1978 (age 29) vs L Third Base: Eddie Mathews 1960 (age 28) vs R; George Kell 1950 (age 27) vs L Shortstop: Alan Trammell 1982 (age 24) Left Field: Ted Williams 1947 (age 28) Center Field: Joe DiMaggio 1939 (age 24) Right Field: Mel Ott 1938 (age 29) DH: Jimmie Foxx 1939 (age 31) Bench: Platoons plus Reggie Smith and Jim Edmonds Pitching: SP1 Pedro Martinez 1997 (age 25) SP2 Rube Waddell 1905 (age 28) SP3 Rick Reuschel 1979 (age 30) SP4 Dazzlin' Chuck Vance 1923 (age 32) SP5 Bob Gibson 1970 (age 34) CL Jonathan Papelbon 2010 (age 29) SU Lee Smith 1990 (age 32) SR Tom Niedenfuer 1987 (age 27) SR Lance McCullers Sr 1989 (age 25) MR Gene Garber 1978 (age 30) LR Bryn Smith 1983 (age 27)
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Team: Limes of Harry Lime Stadium: Miller Park Home City:Kenosha, Wisconsin Left Field – 344 feet (105 m) Left-Center – 371 feet (113 m) Center Field – 400 feet (122 m) Right-Center – 374 feet (114 m) Right Field – 345 feet (105 m) Backstop – 56 feet (17 m) Surface Kentucky Bluegrass pre:gehrilo01,1935,,,,Lou,Gehrig paganda01,1973,,,,Dave,Pagan bridgro01,1960,,,,Rocky,Bridges simsdu01,1973,,,,Duke,Sims rodrial01,2001,,,,Alex,Rodriguez perryji01,1960,,,,Jim,Perry morgajo01,1960,,,,Joe,Morgan gehrich01,1935,,,,Charlie,Gehringer cramedo01,1935,,,,Doc,Cramer sanchce01,1973,,,,Celerino,Sanchez mosesje01,1973,,,,Jerry,Moses oliveda02,2001,,,,Darren,Oliver alouma01,1973,,,,Matty,Alou caminke01,2001,,,,Ken,Caminiti klinest01,1973,,,,Steve,Kline delahmi01,1960,,,,Mike,de la Hoz hartnga01,1935,,,,Gabby,Hartnett francti01,1960,,,,Tito,Francona delahmi01,1960,,,,Mike,de la Hoz kaplega01,2001,,,,Gabe,Kapler juddmi01,2001,,,,Mike,Judd mcdowsa01,1973,,,,Sam,McDowell klippjo01,1960,,,,Johnny,Klippstein davisdo02,2001,,,,Doug,Davis catalfr01,2001,,,,Frank,Catalanotto clostal01,1973,,,,Al,Closter ferrami01,1972,,,,Mike,Ferraro duchsju01,2001,,,,Justin,Duchscherer delahmi01,1960,,,,Mike,de la Hoz munrope01,2001,,,,Peter,Munro 1 Rocky Bridges (IF) 2 Joe Morgan (UT) 3 Álex Rodríguez (SS) 4 Jerry Moses (C) 5 Lou Gehrig (1B) 6 Tito Francona (LF) 7 Charlie Gehringer (2B) 8 Ken Caminiti (3B) 9 Duke Snider (OF) 10 Matty Alou (RF) DH: Celerino Sanchez Pitching Rotation: David Pagan Sam McDowell Doug Davis Jim Perry Steve Kline Bullpen:Darren Oliver Strategy (Rate on a scale from -5 to +5) Hit and Run:3 Sacrifice Bunt: Squeeze Play:2 Trying for extra bases:3 Stealing Bases:2 Aggressively Tagging Up:5 Pitch Outs (to prevent stolen bases):3 Giving Intentional Walks:2 Pitching Around Good Hitters:3 Bringing the Infield In:2 Guarding the Lines:3 Making Cutoff Throws:3 Bringing in Pinch Hitters:1 Bringing in Pinch Runners1:3 Bringing in Defensive Replacements:2 Starting Pitchers on Short Rest:2 Letting pitchers pitch throw trouble:2 Letting Pitchers rack up high pitch counts:-5 Feeder Teams (12) 1973 New York Yankees (2) 2001 Texas Rangers (2) 1935 AL All Stars (7) 1960 Cleveland Indians (1) AmyL fucked around with this message at 04:53 on Jul 28, 2020 |
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the killer mikes will draft 1921 Joe Sewell Akabira Killer Mikes City: Akabira, Japan Stadium: Akabira Bowl (390-410-410-360-300), Open, Natural Grass, Infield Quality Excellent, Infield Grass Short, Visibility Poor, Foul Ground Large Strikeouts set to 150 CSV code:with DH vs RHP #1 Burkett LF #2 Ruth RF #3 Cobb CF #4 Heilmann DH #5 Stargell 1B #6 Dickey C #7 Gehringer 2B #8 Boggs 3B #9 Vaughan SS Bench: Robinson, Burgess, Aaron, Kelley vs LHP #1 Burkett LF #2 Aaron 1B #3 Ruth RF #4 Cobb CF #5 Heilmann DH #6 Gehringer 2B #7 Boggs 3B #8 Vaughan SS #9 Burgess C Bench: Robinson, Dickey, Stargell, Kelley without DH vs RHP #1 Burkett LF #2 Cobb CF #3 Ruth RF #4 Stargell 1B #5 Dickey C #6 Gehringer 2B #7 Boggs 3B #8 Vaughan SS Pitcher Bench: Robinson, Burgess, Heilmann, Aaron, Kelley vs LHP #1 Burkett LF #2 Aaron 1B #3 Ruth RF #4 Cobb CF #5 Gehringer 2B #6 Boggs 3B #7 Vaughan SS #8 Burgess C Pitcher Bench: Robinson, Dickey, Heilmann, Stargell, Kelley SP #1 Smith SP #2 Carlton SP #3 Koufax SP #4 Hamels SP #5 Drysdale CL '93 Hoffman SU Henke SR Papelbon SR '99 Hoffman MR Eckersley MR Borbon LR Mullin Minor Leagues Batters Kaline Appling Sewell Trout Ashburn Roush McCovey Kennedy Smith Rizzo Crosetti Lavan Rolfe Magadan Oliver Pitchers Hernandez Haines Higuera Hooton Garcia Lopez Stieb Jones Dean Oh Mays Seaver Valenzuela Strategies Hit and Run: +5 Sacrifice Bunt: -5 Squeeze Play: -5 Trying for extra bases: 4 Stealing Bases: 2 Aggressively Tagging Up: 4 Pitch Outs (to prevent stolen bases): -1 Giving Intentional Walks: -5 Pitching Around Good Hitters: -5 Bringing the Infield In: -2 Guarding the Lines: 0 Making Cutoff Throws: +4 Bringing in Pinch Hitters: +3 Bringing in Pinch Runners: -2 Bringing in Defensive Replacements: 0 Starting Pitchers on Short Rest: -1 Letting pitchers pitch through trouble: -2 Letting Pitchers rack up high pitch counts: -2 Division Preview Roster C 1938 Bill Dickey 1B 1965 Willie Stargell/1960 Hank Aaron 2B 1934 Charlie Gehringer SS 1940 Arky Vaughan 3B 1986 Wade Boggs LF 1895 Jesse Burkett CF 1909 Ty Cobb RF 1918 Babe Ruth DH 1921 Harry Heilmann SP 1932 Hilton Smith SP 1970 Steve Carlton SP 1965 Sandy Koufax SP 2013 Cole Hamels SP 1963 Don Drysdale CL 1993 Trevor Hoffman SU 1987 Tom Henke SR 1999 Trevor Hoffman SR 2014 Jonathan Papelbon MR 1979 Pedro Borbon MR 1988 Dennis Eckersley LR 1905 George Mullin tatankatonk fucked around with this message at 02:33 on Jul 28, 2020 |
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The offseason transfer window is OVER!
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Smasher Dynamo posted:The offseason transfer window is OVER! thank god
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DannoMack posted:trade No!!!
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 25 Man code:code:SP1 - Seaver SP2 - Joss SP3 - Johnson SP4 - Maddux SP5 - Clemens LR: Marichal MR: Perry SR: Jackson SR: Quisenberry SU: Gossage CL: Kimbrel Hitting vLHP 2B - Robinson CF - Mays DH - Bonds 3B - Schmidt SS - Rodriguez C - Mauer RF - Griffey LF - Kiner 1B - E. Martinez vRHP 2B - Robinson CF - Mays DH - Bonds 3B - Schmidt RF - Griffey SS - Rodriguez LF - Jackson 1B - McCovey C - V. Martinez
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want to make sure you have CSVs for thatcode:TheFlyingLlama fucked around with this message at 07:45 on Jul 28, 2020 |
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 Play in T-Mobile Park (Safeco Field) Sliders Neutral Lineup 2B Lajoie LF Henderson DH Delahanty 1B Cabrera 3B Rolen C Hartnett SS Ripken CF Mays RF Flick Bench OF Stanton UT Bench SS Jeter 2B Altuve OF Oneill Rotation SP Waddell SP Plank SP Joss SP Moore SP Bernhard Bullpen CL Rivera SU Melancon SR Betances SR Nathan MR Gossage LR Cone Minors Everyone else  CSV code:
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AmyL posted:Team: Limes of Harry Lime How does this keep happening. This is not the Limes roster, they don’t even have some of these players. The actual Limes are much better; check my post history for last time I fixed this (and got modern Love killed as a reward)
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that roster fairgame posted, plus the lime's 3 draft picks posted:lineup Added note; added joss to the rotation, griffey jr to bench, tejada to minors.
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 Home City: THE loving MOON. But artificial gravity and weather controllers simulate the environment of San Diego, California. Home Stadium: Moonbase 0-2, Sub Par Edition Artificial turf, domed stadium LF: 325 LCF: 375 CF: 410 RCF: 375 RF: 325 Infield Quality: Excellent Infield Grass: Very High Visibility: Excellent Foul Ground: Tiny Feeders: 1979 Astros 1984 Astros 2003 Astros 1983 NL All Stars code:C Mickey Cochrane 1935 C Russ Martin 2007 1B Jimmie Foxx 1939 1B John Olerud 1998 2B Bobby Grich 1978 2B Lou Whitaker 1983 3B Eddie Mathews 1960 3B George Kell 1950 SS Alan Trammell 1982 OF Ted Williams 1947 OF Joe DiMaggio 1939 OF Mel Ott 1938 OF Reggie Smith 1976 OF Jim Edmonds 2002 SP Pedro Martinez 1997 SP Rube Waddell 1905 SP Dazzy Vance 1923 SP Rick Reuschel 1979 SP Bob Gibson 1970 RP Jonathan Papelbon 2010 RP Lee Smith 1990 RP Tom Niedenfuer 1987 RP Gene Garber 1978 RP Lance McCullers Sr 1989 RP Bryn Smith 1983 Lineup vs R: 1B John Olerud CF Joe DiMaggio LF Ted Williams DH Jimmie Foxx RF Mel Ott C Mickey Cochrane 3B Eddie Mathews SS Alan Trammell 2B Lou Whitaker Lineup vs L: 1B John Olerud CF Joe DiMaggio LF Ted Williams DH Jimmie Foxx RF Mel Ott 3B George Kell SS Alan Trammell C Russ Martin 2B Bobby Grich Bench: Cochrane/Martin platoon Whitaker/Grich platoon Mathews/Kell platoon Reggie Smith Jim Edmonds Rotation: Pedro Martinez Rube Waddell Rick Reuschel Dazzy Vance Bob Gibson Bullpen: CL Jonathan Papelbon SU Lee Smith SR Tom Niedenfuer SR Lance McCullers Sr MR Gene Garber LR Bryn Smith Strategy (Rate on a scale from -5 to +5) Hit and Run: -5 Sacrifice Bunt: -5 Squeeze Play: -5 Trying for extra bases: 4 Stealing Bases: 0 Aggressively Tagging Up: 0 Pitch Outs (to prevent stolen bases): -5 Giving Intentional Walks: -5 Pitching Around Good Hitters: -5 Bringing the Infield In: 0 Guarding the Lines: 2 Making Cutoff Throws: 0 Bringing in Pinch Hitters: -2 Bringing in Pinch Runners: 0 Bringing in Defensive Replacements: 0 Starting Pitchers on Short Rest: -3 Letting pitchers pitch through trouble: 0 Letting Pitchers rack up high pitch counts: -5 For whoever does the division preview CATCHER: Mickey Cochrane 1935 (32) / Russ Martin 2007 (24) 1ST BASE John Olerud 1998 (29) 2ND BASE Lou Whitaker 1983 (26) / Bobby Grich 1978 (29) 3RD BASE Eddie Mathews 1960 (28) / George Kell 1950 (27) SHORTSTOP Alan Trammell 1982 (24) LEFT FIELD Ted Williams 1947 (28) CENTER FIELD Joe DiMaggio 1939 (24) RIGHT FIELD Mel Ott 1938 (29) DESIGNATED HITTER Jimmie Foxx 1939 (31) BENCH Cochrane/Martin platoon, Whitaker/Grich platoon, Mathews/Kell platoon, Reggie Smith 1976 (31), Jim Edmonds 2002 (32) Starting Pitcher #1 1997 Pedro Martinez (25) Starting Pitcher #2 1905 Rube Waddell (28) Starting Pitcher #3 1979 Rick Reuschel (30) Starting Pitcher #4 Dazzlin' Chuck Vance 1923 (32) Starting Pitcher #5 1970 Bob Gibson (34) Bullpen (closer to long relief) 2010 Jonathan Papelbon (29), 1990 Lee Smith (32), 1989 Lance McCullers (25), 1987 Tom Niedenfuer (27), 1978 Gene Garber (30), 1983 Bryn Smith (27)
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Interdimensional Lateral - Episode 76: The Norris-Smythe Preview Episode soundtrack: nothing special, nothing wonderful by haircuts for men  Good evening, sports fans, and welcome to Interdimensional Lateral, the show where we go so far offsides the refs can't throw their flags at us anymore! I'm your host, "Magic" Monica Hightower, and tonight, I have something special for you! I've been asked by a few of my listeners if I would consider branching out to different sports, and I decided to give it a spin. For the next few episodes, we will be taking a look at baseball. And with that, I would like to introduce my guest today, from our very own Mariners, it's Kate "The Thespian" Utley! Hey, listeners! And for those of you not from our local area, here's a bit of backstory on Kate. Kate was drafted fairly late in the draft five years ago, but long-term injuries to the Mariners' starting and backup catcher in the same on-field brawl two years later led to rapid promotion for her in what was considered to be a lost season. However, Kate brought a fresh wind into the clubhouse and particularly energized the pitching staff, leading to a surprise playoff appearance. Alas, the Mariners didn't get far in the playoffs, but Kate has been a fixture at the backstop ever since. It seems a bit weird to be happy two guys got really badly hurt, but I'll say that I don't think my career would be where it is now without that. Well, that's life. But we're not here because of your current baseball exploits. Instead, you've become somewhat notable in the baseball world because of your other interest in the game. Tell us a bit about that. Basically, I consider myself a bit of a historian of the game. Not on a professional level, mind, but on a sort of "enthusiastic amateur" level. In particular, I like to focus on the timespan somewhere between 1800 and 2200 Before Times, when the game was founded and kept developing until it eventually started to resemble what we know today. And it's because of that that you're here today, Kate. As with every episode of Interdimensional Lateral, we take a peek at what could have been - alternate dimensions where the game of foo... I mean, baseball developed to the point where it's recognizable as baseball, and yet is different in surprising ways. And today, we'll be taking a look at... The Super-League.------ The Super-League is a baseball league that seems to have started somewhere around the early 2010s of the Before Times, though recordkeeping of the first few seasons seems spotty. In the dimension it developed in, it would eventually usurp Major League Baseball as the main baseball league in the world in a bizarre incident that can only be described as leaving the Super-League as having literally replaced Major League Baseball. The players were from MLB, as were the rules, the owners and the executives. It was now just called the Super-League, Major League Baseball never existed in the history books, and the original Super-League disappeared as well. So what happened? I can't imagine a rift in time and space just happening like that. Well, there's a conspiracy theory going around in that dimension, where now the people that believed the original Super-League existed, many of them claiming to have owned teams in the league, are written off as lunatics, that the commissioner of the original Super-League instigated this himself. No word as to why or how, though. How strange. So what was so particular about the Super-League that we're going to take a look at it? There were a lot of things. To start with, there were teams in locations I couldn't find on any map I could access from that dimension. Some of the stadiums built seem to defy the laws of physics as the people would have known them back then, with gigantic stadiums miles in the sky in cities that should have been near sea level. Then, there were players capable of superhuman feats that I couldn't find in any other records, even though all the other players match up with records. Seasons that run far faster than any league, with multiple seasons running in a single year, as if they just go from one season to the next, skipping spring training and everything else. Or it's if the offseason just takes place with the players in suspended animation or something. Crazy. And that's not even the weirdest thing. The weirdest thing is the other players - for some reason, they seem to be able to use players from all sorts of different years. Players from the 1880s playing with 1940s players and 1990s players. Not to mention the clones. Clones? In the Before Times? Yeah. There are several reports of multiple copies of the same player, even on the same team and from the same year. I have no idea how this league ran without completely collapsing the space-time continuum, but I suppose whatever made that not happen was also instrumental in causing the MLB replacement. And so we're going to be taking a look at this Super-League then. Yep. I think this league is absolutely fascinating, and since most of the players here are the same as our Before Times history counterparts, your knowledge will be quite helpful - though it's not like I'm going in entirely blind, I know a bit about that time too. I get paid for this, after all. Need to at least do some prep. So, how are we going to do this? We'll be following a single division in a particular season throughout our next few episodes. In this one, we'll take a look at the teams in the division and their rosters. Sounds like a plan. Let's go!-----  The Norris-Smythe division is one of three divisions in the Smasher League, which makes up one half of the Super-League alongside the Dynamo League. Oh, so they also have the two subordinated leagues like the MLB of the Before Times. Yeah, not like our NABL and ANBL. By the way, I can't find anything on these names. I can only presume Norris-Smythe was an innovator of the sport. I also found something about a certain Larkin-Downing, who was probably also somebody who was integral in the early days of the Super-League. That seems like a logical conclusion. It does, though things don't always have to be logical here. I still can't figure out who exactly "Senor Goodtimes" is and why he had a division named after him. Not to mention what tragic fate Mark Bellhorn must've had to have the division named after him specifically be called the "Mark Bellhorn Memorial Division". Now, there's not a lot more to say about the division itself - it's a fairly basic four team division. No seeding or anything going on here like some of you might be familiar with in some division setups we have in our dimension. Let's go over the teams.-----  The South Bolton Eazy W's are one of the legendary teams of the Super-League. They've won the entire league several times over, including last season, and do it with a roster that seems like it really shouldn't be able to compete that well with some of the other stacked rosters this league has. It seems that shrewd managing is their key to victory. So who is their manager then? That's the thing. You see, records don't show who managed the W's during this or the last season. There's records of previous owners, but at some point, it just goes blank. So, a ghost? It might as well be. For these seasons, there seems to be no record of lineup moves ever being made, and yet still, moves are made. It's like the team runs on its own, which, given its age, doesn't entirely seem out of the realm of the possible. Stranger things have happened in this league, so a venerable team getting materializing a mind of its own and just running itself isn't that outrageous. I'm kind of scared of what comes next. The Walney Rakers, as far as I can tell, are the perennial rivals to the W's. I suppose there's some sort of local rivalry there, since those two cities - back when they existed then - were fairly close to each other. They're also apparently some sort of strange blood sacrifice cult that centers around rakes. Hence the name. OK, I've heard of the 1800s teams getting into some weird things, but this is just ridiculous. Isn't there some sort of law enforcement involved here? As far as I can tell, no. This league seems to have operated in some sort of extrajudicial state where everything was legal except what the commissioner outlawed. It seems strange, but it never really got too much out of hand. Though I am saying this without knowing what exactly happened in Super-League 21 - apparently nobody won that season, which seems very strange. I assume something horrible must have happened then. Anyway, the Rakers. They're the type of team that has hung around for a long time while never being able to reach the success their rivals reached, with a roster that seems like it should be able to beat the W's on paper. Alas. That's just baseball. Or ghosts. Could also be ghosts. The Sense of Right Alliance is a strange team. It seems like the pieces are there to make something happen, and two seasons ago, they actually did manage to win their division, but for some reason, the owner just kept making changes, and I can't understand why. It seems like the owner was blowing his team up just for the sake of it, making moves to fit some sort of grand scheme that just never makes it together. Maybe it was ghosts? I mean, you can't rule it out. Still, it seems like there was some sort of other reason. I found some writeups that described previous season's games in more detail and they painted a picture of a distraught, despairing owner that saw giants where there were none, unbeatable pitchers that are beatable, hitters that would hit home runs every at bat that were actually just middling. And they all played against him all the time, never for him. No matter what success his team had, it never was enough to actually bring him joy. What a sad fate. At least the records never showed what ended up happening to that owner, so I hope he at least found some degree of hope eventually. Finally, we have the Minnesota Government Dogs. This is one of the strangest teams of them all, and it's not really because of any of the reasons you might imagine. Like ghosts? Like ghosts. But no, the thing with this team is that from what I can tell, the previous name this team had was such an affront to the league commissioner forced the team owner to change it. How vile must the previous name have been that it was forced to be changed? The Sebastian Thunderbuckets. ...I don't get it. I mean, we're going across dimensions and massive amounts of time. I'd be far more surprised if you did get it. Apparently it's some sort of reference to a player from the NFL of that time. I can only assume this Thunderbucket personally offended the commissioner in some way. With a name like Sebastian Thunderbucket, he must've been an incredibly exciting player, that's for sure. We can only assume. I didn't actually find any player by that name in any databases, so I'm not sure where he came from. But given the commissioner's reaction, he must've caused some quite heavy offense. Anyway, that'll be it for a quick look at the teams overall. Now, what we're going to do next seems to have some sort of tradition with this league. It seems that they had some sort of ritual where some of the owners would go through the divisions, ranking their players in some sort of positional breakdown. So kinda like a season preview. Sort of, but a lot more specific. Some people would deviate from the format and try something different, but most of them would go by the traditional breakdown. So in order to get into the spirit of things, I think we should do the same thing. Sound like a good idea to you? Why not? I mean, that's why I'm here, right? Indeed you are, Kate. Let's do this.----- Here you go, here's the rosters I prepared for this. OK, let's take a look. ...oh, right. This is old Before Times baseball. For a second, I was wondering where the fourth baseman was. Yeah, the positions might seem a bit antiquated to us, but again, that's why you are here. I'd say we should start in the infield with the first baseman. It only seems appropriate. Also, it should be noted that there doesn't seem to be a true finalized roster for the W's at the time we're looking at right now, or at least I sure as hell couldn't find one. So I've estimated something that should be fairly accurate, but you can never really be sure with the W's. And finally, we'll go through the players in the order we think are best to worst, and for timeshares of any kind we list the one presumed to get more playing time first. So that should be those that play versus right handed pitchers for platoons, and whoever isn't doing specific personal catcher orders for catchers. Let's go!First Baseman: To start off, we have a platoon. The W's are bringing 1997 Jim Thome and 1993 Frank Thomas, and I think that's a very solid setup. It's basically what a platoon should've been, back then anyway. Of course, we no longer have the "right handed pitcher and left handed pitcher" dichotomy, but of course you all know about that. Anyway, Thome's great weakness has always been his inability to hit left-handed pitchers well, and Frank Thomas is absolutely great against them, so putting the two together produces one excellent hitter. You are giving up a bench spot without any real defensive gain here, but I feel it's worth it. I'm also noticing here that Thome will be helped a lot by the W's stadium dimensions, which favor left handed power hitters a fair bit. That is an additional benefit, yeah. Just all around solid. Next, we have the Dogs and their 1969 Pete Rose and 1905 Nap Lajoie. At this point in the league, Rose had been seeing somewhat of a resurgence, having previously been a somewhat decent utility player and then turning into a very solid contact bat even able to be played at 1B. It's unclear just what made this shift happen, but it is what it is. We'll get to talk more about Lajoie later, but suffice it to say he's capable enough it doesn't drag things down. So what's the deal with that shift? How can players just suddenly become different in the league? I thought it was always the same players. Fundamentally, yes. However, the league environment itself seems to be capable of changing, and it had at times turned teams that used to be contenders into teams struggling for survival. Next up, we have the Alliance's 2013 Albert Pujols. Pujols is heavily hurt by the tail end of his career, during which the once fearsome hitter turned aggressively pedestrian. This version is just on that threshold that he can't be fully relied on. Still, he could be good, but so could Zoilo Versalles. Doesn't mean you should rely on him. Finally, we have 1927 Jimmie Foxx on the Rakers. He's just too young and raw, a far cry from the terror that he would eventually become. So young, in fact, some blamed him for ruining other iterations of Foxx in the league, though there is an even younger one in the league at this time that could just as well be the cause. Wait, what does that mean? Young versions of players can ruin other versions? Well, back then, cloning was an... inexact science, to put it mildly. Things went wrong a fair bit, including one particularly heavy disaster that left half a team's pitching staff practically unusable. Apparently, players at the extremes of the age range could cause some sort of interference with others, causing their skills to deteriorate as well.Second Baseman: Let me see... for the second basemen, I think we'll start off with the W's 1986 Lou Whitaker, though this is a very tight ranking here. Whitaker has the best glove out of the group, and his bat is still very solid for a 2B. Plus, his power is aided much like Thome's, though obviously not as much. Can't forget that stadium bonus. A run or two extra over the season might not seem like a lot, but hey, it's there. Then I'll take 1923 Eddie Collins and 1947 Bobby Doerr on the Alliance. Collins was an exceptional hitter back in the day, but this one is starting to get kind of long in the tooth to consistently produce, which is not something you want. It's something you can live with, but it's something you don't particularly want. Doerr is fine, I guess. He can be a capable small spoon and backup, though he won't set the world on fire for sure. After that, I think 1928 Charlie Gehringer on the Dogs is the right pick. He's had some issues at times in the last few seasons, from what I can tell from this data you have here, but he's still a solid contributor. Not the Mechanical Man you'd expect from his MLB tenure, but given the raised level of competition, that was somewhat to be expected. And it's not like they can make him literally a Mechanical Man in this league. Actually, they absolutely could. There are a few literal machines playing in this league. Multiple of them would even be in the top ten players of this league. Wait, so they can't figure out cloning, but create androids that perform at absolute top level? The hell is this league? Remember, if we believe the rumors, the commissioner of the league altered space-time continuum to erase his league from existence, albeit somewhat sloppily. Who knows what this guy is able to do if that's the case. Maybe androids are just his forte? This is just getting stranger the longer I'm here. Anyway, we'll close this bit with 1905 Nap Lajoie on the Rakers. Lajoie is somewhat of a one-hit-wonder. Well, technically multiple-hit-wonder, given that his ability to get hits is his one hit, if you catch my drift. Regardless, that one hit isn't really enough to make it in this league, from what I can see, though again, like I said, the ratings here are very tight. Yeah, I would've gone with Lajoie over Gehringer and there's room to argue for Collins/Doerr over Whitaker, but hey, we're just two people talking into two microphones. Well, one of us makes a lot of money playing baseball. I guess one of us is special.Shortstop: At shortstop, I think my favorite is 1935 Joe Cronin for the W's. I'm starting to see why the W's keep staying so strong in this division. Though much like with the 2Bs, this is a soft #1 - there's not a ton separating all these players. Particularly, their gloves are by and large very similar, so bat is what I'm mostly going by, and Cronin's bat has a good chance of being league average, which for shortstops is pretty great. ...oh, for a second I had to try and remember if shortstop was a glove first or bat first position, since we've obviously done away with them for a while now, what with the accident and all. Yeah, that wasn't fun. Purity of the game is one thing, but that just could not be tolerated. After Cronin, we have a platoon, with 1926 Joe Sewell and 1941 Luke Appling for the Alliance. Sewell, much like Lajoie, is kind of a one-trick-pony. He gets contact, that's about it. However, this group is a lot weaker than the second basemen, so he ends up ranking higher than Lajoie. Appling has performed well enough in a platoon role, so that's fine. Now, next up, I'll take 1901 George Davis off the Dogs. Davis is an interesting case - there is a group of players that particularly ended up being used by a single team. As those players saw success there, other teams attempted to use those players as well, but with much less success with a lot of them. Davis is one of those players, though he hasn't seen widespread use on other teams yet, so it remains to be seen how much it transfers. So how does a player just consistently end up successful on one team, but not on others? Well, there's a few potential explanations. You could consider factors like stadiums or team strategies, or you could ascribe it to devil magic. Since each is about as plausible as the other, scientifically speaking, we might as well consider it a coin flip. Finally, we have 1943 Arky Vaughan on the Rakers. It's not that Vaughan is bad, he's just... a bit old. All in all, he could probably end up at #2 on this list depending on what you focus on. I hope the next position is a bit more clear cut.Third Baseman: There's at least one clearcut number here, and it's #1, where we find 1990 Wade Boggs and 1969 Pete Rose for the Dogs. Rose we already covered, and Boggs is one of the greatest at the position, consistently in both MLB and Super-League. Though I'm not sure what exactly the "chicken" in his nickname is supposed to be referring to. Beats me. I can only presume it's some sort of adjective that has something to do with him being good at baseball. For the second spot, I'll go with 1949 Jackie Robinson, playing for the Rakers. He's an excellent fielder at the position with a bat that's not too shabby, and his ability to play several positions well is an added bonus. The position falls off hard after the Boggs / Rose platoon here. After that, we have 2001 Scott Rolen on the W's, who is kinda like Robinson except he can't play other positions that well. And that's the three players I actually know. Now can you enlighten me as to what the hell a "Deutoronomy Slims" is? This is an interesting story. So, apparently, the commissioner of this league hated most of the owners in his league because of reasons that aren't written down. From then, the commissioner decided he would give the league a punishment of Papyral proportions. With that, he created Deutoronomy Slims, a player tailor made to be sought out by the most arrogant owners. Slims is a player with an incredible upside but also an increduble downside - his hitting was excellent, but his fielding was absolutely abhorrent, and he would not play as designated hitter, you had to use him in the field. The idea was that certain owners would seek this player out, believing they could work around the downside somehow and reap the upside without major issues. They would be wrong - the downside of horrible fielding was specifically chosen because back then, fielding wasn't easily encapsulated in a single number that could be compared. It turned out that the downside was so heavy it entirely outweighed the upside and turned Slims into a net loss, a plague on the owner that sought him out. And yet, despite this being fairly well established in the first two seasons he played, owners still went for him, like the owner of the Alliance. So with that said, I think we can write down that Deuteronomy Slims on the Alliance is the #4 third baseman in this group. Yes, I think that's appropriate for a player that is literally a punishment.Designated Hitter: The DH doesn't really fit anywhere, so let's just stick them in the middle. Which all things considered might be a bit disrespectful, because this group is stacked. We start with one of the greatest hitters of all time, 1942 Ted Williams for the Rakers. What can there be said about Ted Williams? He had hitting down to a science. He even wrote a book about it. It was called "The Science of Hitting". Appropriate. Next, we have two hitters that I honestly can't really separate. Well, I can, and will, but anyway. We have 1890 Dan Brouthers for the Dogs and 1882 Roger Connor for the Alliance. These two guys are basically very similar. Played at the absolute beginning of baseball, supreme hitters both, but their skillset doesn't transfer just as well as, say, one of a Ted Williams. The clincher here is recent performance - for some reason, Connor really fell off in the last few seasons, so I'd go with Brouthers over Connor. Actually, I don't know that much about what the game was really like back then, so why don't you give us some fun facts about the beginnings of baseball for our listeners, Kate? Gladly. Did you know that foul balls worked a lot differently back then? There was this technique when batting that would allow the ball to start in the fair area, but roll out into the foul area. I think they called it a Welsh or something, because it would make people welch on bets a lot when an elite batter kept using it. However, there was an additional component to that that would lead to some very interesting games. Back then, if the ball rolled close enough to the audience that one of them could pick up the ball, it would still be considered in play. The counterbalance to that would be that it would usually devolve into a fight fairly quick and the ball would roll back into the field where one of the players could use it again. However, there was one game where it went differently. The ball went into the crowd, and apparently the home team had organized a sellout with all of their fans, so the fans just hid the ball, causing the umpires much grief. Eventually, they made the call that the game continued until the ball was found. This eventually backfired on the team that planned this, as the ball was lost in the commotion and nobody ever found it. The game is theoretically still ongoing today, and no rule changes have ever addressed what were to happen if this ball was actually found. Not that we'd ever find anything from the Before Times. Right. Anyway, the final player here is 1927 Al Simmons for the W's. He's solid, but just doesn't compare to the others. I recall Simmons having the nickname "Bucketfoot". I believe this was because he actually wore buckets instead of shoes due to some sort of birth defect. The strangest thing is that it apparently did not impede his baserunning at all. Baseball is full of wonders.----- Please turn to the next page for the second half of the preview! This was just too large for one page to contain!
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