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Guze posted:The big boy made up throwing out the first pitch at the Yankees game Grondoth posted:... why are they opposing Marijuana legalization? People want it. It works well. What in the world are they doing?
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Political Party aligns its platform with positions of Party Leader, news at 11. As always, Elections Have Consequences. This is why Bernie has been lobbying Biden on Platform issues he can actually move him on, like the Public Option, not trying to pretend he can get Biden on board with M4A. However, Bernie has also not given up on M4A, which is why he keeps talking about it. He's looking toward the next round of the fight. Also the platform means exactly poo poo the second the election is over, its the political equivalent of a billboard ad. Prepare yourselves for the struggle to advance progressive ideas AFTER November rather than wringing your hands over this.
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Mr Interweb posted:https://twitter.com/chrislhayes/status/1287844283932966912 you have to be neutron star dense to be a conservative Dallas gay in the first place
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Mr Interweb posted:https://twitter.com/chrislhayes/status/1287844283932966912
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Wilbur Swain posted:A reporter dared to state that his poll numbers were down, he went off on a tirade so delusional he sounded schizophrenic, then ended the press conference. This loving idiot and his ilk really believe the loudest idiots are the rest of the country, just lmao But somehow they are the "silent" majority? 
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Grondoth posted:... why are they opposing Marijuana legalization? People want it. It works well. What in the world are they doing? Legalization is happening at a state by state and city by city level. in the next four years over 30 states will have legalized it. they're content to let states do it an come in at the end of it because they're gutless worms
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Parakeet vs. Phone posted:Is it genuinely just Biden's opposition pulling them there? I always thought Biden's opposition didn't matter since the money and lobby, not to mention the voters, are all behind it so it's a no-brainer that they'd force his hand on. Jesus Christ just when I let the tiniest bit of optimism in too. This is one of those times when Democrats and liberals and progressives need to remember that federalism is a thing, and that we can't tie our hopes to the Federal Government. Of the MANY lessons from the last three years, one is that Dems need to do more work at the state level to implement the changes we want to see. Obviously, a cooperative and friendly Federal Government is a bonus, but we need to learn to make the policy changes at the state levels when necessary. I like Biden, I think in general he could be a good President, but he is certainly not going to be progressive in the ways that the left wants to see. Instead of being demoralized, the left needs to shift strategies to the local level in order to influence the Feds. Besides, if we don't do that then it's very likely in 4 years that we're back under the heel of an rear end in a top hat Republican.
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VitalSigns posted:you have to be neutron star dense to be a conservative Dallas gay in the first place not if he's wealthy
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Breitbart posted video of doctors speaking bravely about the miracle drug Hydroxochlorine https://twitter.com/BreitbartNews/status/1287832679354789888?s=20 https://twitter.com/TheRightMelissa/status/1287890451769352192?s=20 https://twitter.com/w_terrence/status/1287898072048119809?s=20 Wellllllllll https://twitter.com/KarenAlea/status/1287897067512266752?s=19k https://twitter.com/smurgel/status/1287892500095496192?s=20 Mr Ice Cream Glove fucked around with this message at 01:51 on Jul 28, 2020 |
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Breitbart posted video of doctors speaking bravely about the miracle drug Hydroxochlorine Wow, she's a nut. Who could have known? 
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Pretty sure it was just the first miracle drug that seemed scientific so it stuck. Although I'm surprised Ivermectin went away so fast. Seemed like that would have stayed on the quack circuit for longer. Maybe it was farm supply stores refusing to play ball. There are people who have been pushing zinc and Vitamin D but those are too obvious of bullshit for a lot of America.SpitztheGreat posted:This is one of those times when Democrats and liberals and progressives need to remember that federalism is a thing, and that we can't tie our hopes to the Federal Government. Of the MANY lessons from the last three years, one is that Dems need to do more work at the state level to implement the changes we want to see. Obviously, a cooperative and friendly Federal Government is a bonus, but we need to learn to make the policy changes at the state levels when necessary. I like Biden, I think in general he could be a good President, but he is certainly not going to be progressive in the ways that the left wants to see. Instead of being demoralized, the left needs to shift strategies to the local level in order to influence the Feds. Besides, if we don't do that then it's very likely in 4 years that we're back under the heel of an rear end in a top hat Republican. Going to once again point out the utter worthlessness of this when it's only relevant to a handful of lucky states. Guess everybody else should just smile and shut up. Or we all move to the magic land of Virginia I guess?
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:How did Hydroxychloroquine get so many cooks pushing it? It has to go farther than Trump bringing it up since he was clued onto it by people like this already doing it. I would assume some doctor somewhere sincerely thought it might help and someone shared this info or an article with Trump way back and he misunderstood it as he always does and then pushed it the great cure provided only by him and then half the country fell in line to tell the Emperor his clothes looked great.
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Breitbart posted video of doctors speaking bravely about the miracle drug Hydroxochlorine médecins sans principes
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Breitbart posted video of doctors speaking bravely about the miracle drug Hydroxochlorine poo poo like this disgusts me. like these assholes know this is evil poo poo they are doing. i assume its a mix of nuts and grifters and such. Shimrra Jamaane posted:How did Hydroxychloroquine get so many cooks pushing it? It has to go farther than Trump bringing it up since he was clued onto it by people like this already doing it. if i remember Hydroxychloroquine has always been a piece in the snake oil sales men repitior. its just easier to sell now that a big dumb mark is in the WH.
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Mr Interweb posted:edit: dammit sorry nm i am assume he is on a vent or some such. but isnt he like 70 or some poo poo.
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Mr Interweb posted:https://twitter.com/chrislhayes/status/1287844283932966912 In June that's totally also on them for going.
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Laterite posted:not if he's wealthy yeah that's the material condition that drives the desire to be conservative, but you still have to be incredibly stupid to believe that the conservative government you want is going to be grateful to you for being one of the good ones and won't put you in the boxcar with the others
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Parakeet vs. Phone posted:Pretty sure it was just the first miracle drug that seemed scientific so it stuck. Although I'm surprised Ivermectin went away so fast. Seemed like that would have stayed on the quack circuit for longer. Maybe it was farm supply stores refusing to play ball. There are people who have been pushing zinc and Vitamin D but those are too obvious of bullshit for a lot of America. I get the frustration, but I don't view it as worthless at all, I view it as an investment. One of the great tactical decisions that Republicans made in the last 50 years was to do more work at the state level, knowing that it would influence the political debate and make changes at the federal level easier. It's a long-game, no doubt about it, but Republican actions in Texas since 1960 have made even blue states move to the right, so it is an effective strategy. By tying our hopes to the Federal Government alone, yes we may achieve the hail-mary, but as we've seen a Republican President can walk it back. A one-step forward, two steps back sort of approach. If we can implement good progressive policies at the state level, then we can make it harder for Republican Presidents to be assholes because the support for our policies will be stronger and more uniform. SpitztheGreat fucked around with this message at 02:10 on Jul 28, 2020 |
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VitalSigns posted:yeah that's the material condition that drives the desire to be conservative, but you still have to be incredibly stupid to believe that the conservative government you want is going to be grateful to you for being one of the good ones and won't put you in the boxcar with the others You can be a wealthy psychopath republican and still be smart enough to know Covid is real.
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Crackbone posted:You can be a wealthy psychopath republican and still be smart enough to know Covid is real. yeah. alot of my family are various stripe of conservative and they believe its real and take precautions and i know they are pissed that trump loving this up as well as not doing any kind of unity message during the protests.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:i am assume he is on a vent or some such. but isnt he like 70 or some poo poo. 74, apparently. if by some miracle he survives, his last moments in life are going to be absolute hell
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:How did Hydroxychloroquine get so many cooks pushing it? It has to go farther than Trump bringing it up since he was clued onto it by people like this already doing it. It was a legitimate early study target for Covid-19 treatment since it's a cheap, well studied immunosuppressant and Covid progression can kill you by driving your immune system up to lethal levels. It just happened to hit the news cycles at the exact moment that Trump was casting around for miracle cure that would make the scary virus go away. Edit: Actually, I think I misunderstood and Hydroxychloroquine was being studied as an antiviral, not an immunosuppressant Haystack fucked around with this message at 02:20 on Jul 28, 2020 |
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Breitbart posted video of doctors speaking bravely about the miracle drug Hydroxochlorine It's like doubling down cubed. God forbid perfectly clothed emperor says something wrong, they have to go to crazy lengths to redefine reality to fit his stupidity
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SpitztheGreat posted:This is one of those times when Democrats and liberals and progressives need to remember that federalism is a thing, and that we can't tie our hopes to the Federal Government. Of the MANY lessons from the last three years, one is that Dems need to do more work at the state level to implement the changes we want to see. Obviously, a cooperative and friendly Federal Government is a bonus, but we need to learn to make the policy changes at the state levels when necessary. I like Biden, I think in general he could be a good President, but he is certainly not going to be progressive in the ways that the left wants to see. Instead of being demoralized, the left needs to shift strategies to the local level in order to influence the Feds. Besides, if we don't do that then it's very likely in 4 years that we're back under the heel of an rear end in a top hat Republican. Oh hey remember this Black disabled veteran who got arrested (on fake pretense by some good ole boy in Alabama) for having medical marijuana (legally prescribed to him in Arizona) and the resulting charges not only left he and his wife jobless and homeless but him in jail and her in dire need of medical care? https://twitter.com/wallofmomsbama/status/1287008782724341760?s=19 Guess he just should've waited to treat his service related disability and PTSD until we sufficiently influenced people like Biden to get on board with decriminalizing it at the federal level. The platform sucks and if the individual distaste of Joe Biden is enough to prevent the party from seeing where the electorate is on this issue (doesn't marijuana legalization have broad bipartisan support in every poll?) and aligning with them, we are in serious loving trouble. That they can't get behind M4A even as a huge chunk of the country loses their employer provided insurance in the middle of a pandemic can't even be called stupid - it's blatantly spiteful of people's needs and completely absent any desire to improve material conditions broadly.
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Crackbone posted:You can be a wealthy psychopath republican and still be smart enough to know Covid is real. yeah but to be a wealthy gay Republican you have to believe that no matter how much Republicans hate you and want you dead nothing will really happen to you, turns out that same mindset also helps you not believe a virus that killed 150,000 Americans is real and can kill you too! every Republican gay dude I know is also a covid truther E: actually that's not true, I know one who isn't, but he's a never-Trumper and he's not wealthy either so I have no idea why he's a Republican VitalSigns fucked around with this message at 02:21 on Jul 28, 2020 |
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Dapper_Swindler posted:yeah. alot of my family are various stripe of conservative and they believe its real and take precautions and i know they are pissed that trump loving this up as well as not doing any kind of unity message during the protests. Its kind of weird to me just how much the riots seemed to hurt Trump. Going full Civil War Rhetoric just totally backfired on him, and a lot of polls shows really surprising numbers of Republicans saying the protesters were partially of WHOLLY justified, even when they were toppling statues and burning precincts. I guess it goes to show just how successful BLM has been as a social movement, even while Conservative media has worked their asses off the try and blunt their arguments and demonize their membership.
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Sanguinia posted:Its kind of weird to me just how much the riots seemed to hurt Trump. Going full Civil War Rhetoric just totally backfired on him, and a lot of polls shows really surprising numbers of Republicans saying the protesters were partially of WHOLLY justified, even when they were toppling statues and burning precincts. Even the Libertarian candidate is tweeting BLM stuff, even though it's infuriating their base of aggrieved white dudes, it's too popular among everyone else to not do it if you're trying to get third party votes
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Mat Cauthon posted:Oh hey remember this Black disabled veteran who got arrested (on fake pretense by some good ole boy in Alabama) for having medical marijuana (legally prescribed to him in Arizona) and the resulting charges not only left he and his wife jobless and homeless but him in jail and her in dire need of medical care? I'm not saying it wouldn't be better to have a federal policy, what I am saying is that getting state policies is better than nothing. If you don't get the changes at the Federal level that you want, what are you going to do? Just give up? Keep barking up that tree indefinitely? I'm just trying to say that a different approach may be necessary to see the change you want. If federal officials aren't going to listen, then it's better to atleast start getting some wins at the state level where possible. Wins of any sort will put pressure on politicians, so don't turn your nose up to wins at the state-level. Now, obviously, some policy changes are better implemented at the federal level such as M4A, but if you can't get that in 2020, or 2021, you can't just give up. We need to find new ways, new strategies, to get what we want. And if it's at the state level, that's still saving/helping a lot of people- so lets not lose sight that we can do a lot of good even without the feds.
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