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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Don't joke about that! In a former life, one of my jobs was sort of managing a large vacant site (in Jezza's constituency no less). Despite the windscreen being in the way. And that it'd result in a corpse slumped on the accelerator and probably crash more than anything. And that there were far easier ways to hijack a vehicle, like pointing a gun at the occupant, which is what hijackers actually did. As with most urban legend things someone somewhere probably tried it though. Budget security guards are the exact mix of petty and vindictive to be a good fit for that someone. e: Studio 338 is a club in London. Guavanaut fucked around with this message at 16:43 on Jul 28, 2020 |
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Funnily a cyclist told me last week about people setting wire traps on cycle trails. Apparently "at shin height" which I don't know how that would work given the front wheel is in the way.
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They were doing that in the peaks around here too. Digging pits and setting spiked logs with nails as booby traps. People are poo poo.
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Think we missed this from yesterday: https://twitter.com/mirrorpolitics/status/1287853433689702408?s=21
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Darth Walrus posted:Think we missed this from yesterday: Nick Thomas-Symonds is Priti Patel and I claim my £5. I'm still on my twitter break but I have opened a different browser window so I can read the tweets people are posting but not signed in so I can't reply (thank goodness!) - blood pressure still benefitting 
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OwlFancier posted:Funnily a cyclist told me last week about people setting wire traps on cycle trails. Apparently "at shin height" which I don't know how that would work given the front wheel is in the way. Urban legend still alive though with the guy going "no, hikers would never do such a thing, it's the robbers, they're beheading people halfway up a mountain to steal your bike because that's how people steal bikes in South Africa!"
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That reminds me of a thing, possibly an urban legend in itself, where drug dealers heard the urban legend that they throw a pair of shoes over the telephone wire to communicate about drugs, and went "do we? Better start then!"
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Not sure how communicative a pair of shoes on a telephone line can be. Unless the laces are conductive and you put a wiretap in the soles.
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Mebh posted:They were doing that in the peaks around here too. Digging pits and setting spiked logs with nails as booby traps. People are poo poo. Why are the Viet Cong trying to drive the western imperialists out of the Peaks? 
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Jose posted:vote for corbyn as MP of the year to rile people up lol. i think the site is currently getting hammered Turns out that when you type 'je' into the search field and click without really looking, you might almost vote for Jess Phillips by accident.
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Thought Jess Phillips begins with I.
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Guavanaut posted:Thought Jess Phillips begins with I. 
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Much as I'm not in the Labour party anymore, and am no fan of Sir Haircut, I really think this Ware person is trying to tie all leftish labour members and supporters up in knots of suing for libel especially with that additional bunch of sewers (intentional mis-spelling) who basically said 'expel Corbyn and this all goes away' so therefore not actually having any genuine fears for 'reputational damage'.
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Ms Adequate posted:Why are the Viet Cong trying to drive the western imperialists out of the Peaks? Well it's not so much Viet Cong as it is Viet crap. 
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Guess we now know what the next thing that the Tories want to leave after the EU is. I like the high bar set of "there are some functioning democracies".
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When I was a kid I tried digging a spike pit in some woods. It was nearly 6 inches deep and the spikes were made from twigs pushed into the ground, then when I covered it up with little branches and leaves it very gently collapsed onto the spikes, knocking them down. In effect I had made a sort of ground pillow that would have been softer to fall on top of that the ground around it.
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Definitely went arse-over-tip on my bmx from a wire that was taut enough to turn the wheel when I was young. Drivers gripes: why do fuckers never ever indicate here. Is it not a law? Just swing around the corner and maybe switch it in when you see me and my toddler halfway across. Maybe it's a Kent thing i dunno
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Darth Walrus posted:Think we missed this from yesterday: I glanced through the article and the headline-baiting quote aside, nothing he says is particularly offensive. quote:“I have supported tougher sentences on various crimes and I am always willing to look at that for the deterrent effect. Refusing to say that the police are institutionally racist isn't great, but hardly a novel position if you're trying to persuade people that you take crime seriously. Likewise, he basically states that Labour will decide how they feel about immigration once Brexit's hosed everything up. Which is craven, sure, but given no-one's paying any attention to Labour at the moment, I doubt it matters. /\ /\ /\ It's definitely not just a Kent thing. Mini-roundabouts seem to be the worst places for it - it gets on my nerves if I'm waiting to cross safely (on foot) and I have no way of knowing what the driver approaching is going to do.
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Guavanaut posted:Guess we now know what the next thing that the Tories want to leave after the EU is. *in that they hold elections, for the most part, occasionally even without arresting the opposition (not always though) IMO it deserves partial quoting for how bonkers it is: ConservativeWoman.com posted:‘OUR asylum system is in chaos’; ‘the current system encourages illegality’. No, not direct quotes from politicians today but extracts from the Conservative Party’s 2005 General Election manifesto. It continued: ‘On asylum, a Conservative government will not allow outdated and inflexible rules to prevent us shaping a system which is more humane, more likely to improve community relations and better managed.’ It explicitly promised: ‘We will take national control of asylum policy (and) withdraw from the 1951 Geneva Convention.’
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Chubby Henparty posted:Definitely went arse-over-tip on my bmx from a wire that was taut enough to turn the wheel when I was young. Yeah those kinda drivers are Kents alright
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I think a lot of people don't use the indicators when they don't think it's relevant to other cars, forgetting that there are other people who rely on your use of them.
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The indicator is a magical device that causes anything in your path to teleport away. However its reserve of power is very limited, so it must not be used until a split second before you turn.
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Party Boat posted:The indicator is a magical device that causes anything in your path to teleport away. However its reserve of power is very limited, so it must not be used until a split second before you turn. I've also noticed that like the trend towards building more laptops without optical drives, there's a similar trend with expensive cars and indicator lights. Audi seems to particularly keen on building their cars without them.
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kingturnip posted:Refusing to say that the police are institutionally racist isn't great, but hardly a novel position if you're trying to persuade people that you take crime seriously. We shouldn't be trying to persuade people we're taking crime seriously, whatever that means. We should be trying to persuade people that crime is caused, directly and provably, by peoples' material circumstances, and will be reduced by improving peoples' material circumstances. But then, we are not Labour, any more. At least, I'm not. Private Speech posted:*in that they hold elections, for the most part, occasionally even without arresting the opposition (not always though) Hahahahahahaaaaaaa fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck (Have we actually beaten trump to something at this point?)
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Soylent Yellow posted:I've also noticed that like the trend towards building more laptops without optical drives, there's a similar trend with expensive cars and indicator lights. Audi seems to particularly keen on building their cars without them. They clearly know that the cunts who drive their cars never use them anyway
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radmonger posted:Being fake isn’t some kind of weird superpower, an ‘I win all arguments’ button. Being fake has been shown to be an absolutely incredibly successful attack against both leftists and centrists. When you are up against someone who, not only cares about the truth, but thinks that there is a rational approach to defeating lies, you will crush them every time with an unending stream of mistruth, when you have enough money behind it. It takes time and resources to respond, has very little impact, and they can manufacture the next narrative before you've finished responding to the first time. You're wrapped on the defensive whilst they are constantly on the attack. It's a siege situation, basically. The Left only makes advances when it attacks but we've been fighting a rearguard action for 40 years with the illusion that someday "demographics" will save us. If the electoral rules ever DO favour the left, due to demographics, then they will simply change the rules. Oh hey, that's already happening. I'm not sure what your point is about NZ Labour? Party unity is important. Corbyn should have purged the wreckers. baka kaba posted:I'm talking more like, don't accept the attacks, but don't do it in a way that basically says "no that's not a real thing". Reinforce your commitment to fighting antisemitism, be assertive about pushing the message that it has no place in society in general This is exactly what the Corbyn tried and it failed. The problem with looking inwards, when you are in open war, is that the enemy rightly perceives it as weakness and just doubles down on the message. Every attempt at conciliation and self-searching is evidence of guilt and fuel for the fire. There's so much to attack on and every minute spent doing this (and this kind of stuff takes a hell of a lot of time that we just didn't have) is a minute not doing something more effective. I feel we're going around in circles at this point though. Active Quasar fucked around with this message at 20:03 on Jul 28, 2020 |
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It is worth reminding ourselves that NZ Labour are centrists with minimal differences to the Nats (Tories, essentially), who have failed to deliver on almost all their manifesto aims. The good gains from the government have been led by the Greens in the coalition. Jacinda is a good leader though, there is no doubt on that and she has approached the absurd amount of catastrophic events during her term with strength, compassion and common sense. Her winning would be great - as long as the Green coalition is still a thing.
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Much as I'm not in the Labour party anymore, and am no fan of Sir Haircut, I really think this Ware person is trying to tie all leftish labour members and supporters up in knots of suing for libel especially with that additional bunch of sewers (intentional mis-spelling) who basically said 'expel Corbyn and this all goes away' so therefore not actually having any genuine fears for 'reputational damage'. he's sued for libel a bunch of times after his documentaries have aired in the past and lost lol. standard procedure for him and why the documentary was so loving dodgy from the start
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Ratjaculation posted:It is worth reminding ourselves that NZ Labour are centrists with minimal differences to the Nats (Tories, essentially), who have failed to deliver on almost all their manifesto aims. So they're like UK Labour, got it.
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thespaceinvader posted:We shouldn't be trying to persuade people we're taking crime seriously, whatever that means. We should be trying to persuade people that crime is caused, directly and provably, by peoples' material circumstances, and will be reduced by improving peoples' material circumstances. But that is taking crime seriously! And by extension you can accuse your opponent of not taking it seriously, by being more interested in looking tough than doing anything accruals useful to reduce it. You can save the finer details about societal reform for the manifesto and the bullet points on your election leaflets.
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A colleague of mine once had to field an enquiry about a night security guard, which was very confusing because we don't employ night security guards. It turned out that someone had got a job through a dodgy security agency, wasn't supplied with any workwear, and decided to wear the warm, waterproof hi-viz jacket that had our logo on it. He might have got away with it, if there hadn't been an incident with some trespassers. Even after he was called into the office for a 'quick chat' he was still dumbfounded that anyone would think he was in the wrong. Wearing the wrong workwear stopped being an issue for him after he wandered away from a different site he was "guarding" to chat to a girl who was "flirting" with him, and was completely shocked that the agency sacked him for falling for the oldest distraction technique in the book. Sorry there's no cycling dimension to it.
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Disnesquick posted:Being fake has been shown to be an absolutely incredibly successful attack against both leftists and centrists. When you are up against someone who, not only cares about the truth, but thinks that there is a rational approach to defeating lies, you will crush them every time with an unending stream of mistruth, when you have enough money behind it. It takes time and resources to respond, has very little impact, and they can manufacture the next narrative before you've finished responding to the first time. You're wrapped on the defensive whilst they are constantly on the attack. It's a siege situation, basically. The Left only makes advances when it attacks but we've been fighting a rearguard action for 40 years with the illusion that someday "demographics" will save us. If the electoral rules ever DO favour the left, due to demographics, then they will simply change the rules. Oh hey, that's already happening. Unending fake concern trolling with money behind it neuters most lefties/libs yes, we should build ways to be more aggressive more effectively yes, but don't like the implication that a "rational approach" is somehow part of the problem. Pure numbers 'x>y so why not x?' arguments and 'this poo poo you're saying is completely incoherent debate bro me' arguments both favour the left over the status quo our aggression should absolutely be 'rational approach' on some level. Disnesquick posted:Party unity is important. Corbyn should have purged the wreckers. Yup. Disnesquick posted:This is exactly what the Corbyn tried and it failed. The problem with looking inwards, when you are in open war, is that the enemy rightly perceives it as weakness and just doubles down on the message. Every attempt at conciliation and self-searching is evidence of guilt and fuel for the fire. There's so much to attack on and every minute spent doing this (and this kind of stuff takes a hell of a lot of time that we just didn't have) is a minute not doing something more effective. I feel we're going around in circles at this point though. There isn't/wasn't a realistic alternative response though. I'd love Labour to go nuclear and bring the receipts too on establishment media to try and force a delegitimising cultural shift against the evil bullshit, and head off whatever their next X smear is, but without a groundswell against the framework already existing to build on what are you actually suggesting? Should Corbyn have gone full Trump and railed against the Lyin' Fake News Media?
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Lady Demelza posted:Wearing the wrong workwear stopped being an issue for him after he wandered away from a different site he was "guarding" to chat to a girl who was "flirting" with him, and was completely shocked that the agency sacked him for falling for the oldest distraction technique in the book. Good god. I like to imagine that she was 'flirting' with him having to completely freestyle it over the internal chants of "Is this actually working? IS THIS ACTUALLY loving WORKING OH GOD WHAT DO I SAY NEXT?!?"
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There's this little area, mini-neighbourhood or something, fairly close to where I live in London, east of Angel, north of Old Street, both sides of Regent's Canal. I've been exploring various places recently on a bicycle. Twice I've been strolling down a random street in that area, which looks like it was built chock full of large council houses (big towers etc) in the 1970s-1980s or so, and twice I've seen a parked police car with a couple of officers having a nice friendly chat with some young black people Not sure I've ever before seen cops talking to anyone when I've gone cycling. Magically that happens as soon as I end up in (what I'm guessing is a) deprived area with plenty of black people. Bit of a sour taste in my mouth. Couldn't the pigs focus on something productive instead, such as driving their car and themselves into the loving canal
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jaete posted:There's this little area, mini-neighbourhood or something, fairly close to where I live in London, east of Angel, north of Old Street, both sides of Regent's Canal. I've been exploring various places recently on a bicycle. Twice I've been strolling down a random street in that area, which looks like it was built chock full of large council houses (big towers etc) in the 1970s-1980s or so, and twice I've seen a parked police car with a couple of officers having a nice friendly chat with some young black people That's Hoxton, and those estates - *particularly* the New Era (pre-war LCC low-rises) and the De Beauvour (late-70s GLC high- and mid-rises), either side of the canal - have been subject to multiple waves of gentrification pressure since the eighties - antique dealers from Islington looking to become BtL emperors, City boys pushing up from the south, several waves of hipsters rolling in from London Fields and Shoreditch. Now. I'm not saying that these new residents, along with the local councils, engage in a kind of collective Karen-ing - setting up "Safer Neighbourhood Teams", targeting "antisocial behaviour" and practicing that old favourite "intelligence-led policing" with the unstated, and perhaps even unthought, purpose of driving the remaining social housing residents out of some of the best council housing ever built (seriously, those are the two golden ages) so they can have their hip, urban lifestyles without any of those "hip", "urban" types around. I'm not saying that at all. I'm also certain that the ALMO that owns New Era doubled the social rents for purely the most altruistic reasons and not to force out the social tenants so they could sell the leaseholds to BtLs, or that generally they've spent the last 20 years building their own little hostile environment down there. I'm not saying that at all, and I'm sure it's all a coincidence.
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Soylent Yellow posted:I've also noticed that like the trend towards building more laptops without optical drives, there's a similar trend with expensive cars and indicator lights. Audi seems to particularly keen on building their cars without them. It has been something like 8 years since I last used a dvd/cd tbf
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Even if you never publish it until after your death I genuinely think your understanding of the social history of London should go in a book or something Twisto because I feel like it's going to be invaluable to know who to guillotine come the revolution.
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