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Tunicate: May 15, 2012

Okay what is maxwell's credit score

# ? Jul 29, 2020 01:53

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Spergin Morlock: Aug 8, 2009

Tunicate posted:

Okay what is maxwell's credit score

683 FICO score

# ? Jul 29, 2020 02:00

gh0stpinballa: Mar 5, 2019

nut posted:

maybe a similar route as to why jeff was groomed at all in the first place? Wasn't he an incredibly accomplished pianist/ahead in school?

thats what im thinking, a line of exploitation/grooming/recruitment. some of the girls he straight abused, others he seems to have taken into his confidence and trained to work for him as procurers, assistants, or blackmailers. nadia marcinko is the first name that springs to mind. and jeff like his victims was from a working class family without many connections. seems to be a common thread of going after ambitious but poor people.

# ? Jul 29, 2020 02:01

Regulus74: Jul 26, 2007

gh0stpinballa posted:

thats what im thinking, a line of exploitation/grooming/recruitment. some of the girls he straight abused, others he seems to have taken into his confidence and trained to work for him as procurers, assistants, or blackmailers. nadia marcinko is the first name that springs to mind. and jeff like his victims was from a working class family without many connections. seems to be a common thread of going after ambitious but poor people.

Agreed, that's why I suspect he was first scouted/recruited at Interlochen or something similar.

# ? Jul 29, 2020 02:38

gh0stpinballa: Mar 5, 2019

Regulus74 posted:

Agreed, that's why I suspect he was first scouted/recruited at Interlochen or something similar.

holy poo poo i somehow completely missed that he was enrolled there as a student in 1967. smoking gun surely, most definitely he was groomed and recruited there.

# ? Jul 29, 2020 03:37

Fried Watermelon: Dec 29, 2008

nut posted:

the inquiry into the mass shooter in Nova Scotia earlier this year, who went on a 2-day GTA spree dressed up like a cop in a faked cop car shooting people and burning houses, is going public after constant outcry from the Canadian public. The Inquiry was originally slated to have no transparency in the name of, as the RCMP repeatedly stated, "not wanting to re-traumatise the victims".

https://twitter.com/BillBlair/status/1288202222417960960?s=20

This is the same case where the killer withdrew almost a half milly in cash directly from a Brink's depot in Nova Scotia, which anonymous RCMP officers have since clarified is not a means through which private citizens can withdraw money (financial assessments into the killer's businesses could also not explain the withdrawal), but is a means through which the RCMP get cash for agents/informants. Killer's neighbour Peter Griffin (lol) helped print the decals to fake the RCMP car and Griffin has gang ties to drug running for La Familia. Finally, upon learning about the start of the killing spree, the RCMP in Nova Scotia failed to use their public alert system, which residents will typically tell you is, if anything, overused under other circumstances (is often used to warn about things as innocuous as lightning storms). The failure to warn has been directly linked to at least one of the deaths of a woman who went for a walk not knowing anything bad was going on in her area. There has been no real explanation for the RCMP's failure to act. During the spree, two RCMP officers had guns drawn and inexplicably shot bullets into a firehouse that was housing community members sheltering from the killer. Everything about it is insane.

The list of weirdness goes on and I'm sure there's lots I missed just like I'm sure there will be lots missed in the now public inquiry.

The most prevalent theories I've seen are that this is another example in a long history of police forces teaming up with citizens that are right-wing nuts and facing the consequences of providing money and power to someone liable to snap like this. The killer, Gabriel Wortman, has for a long time played pretend cop, collecting retired cop cars and outfits from auction and even citizen's arresting cops for parking illegally in his business parking lot.

Further to this it was revealed recently that the RCMP was informed about his drug smuggling, illegal gun collection, and hidden doors / stashes in his house and business a year prior

Also his uncle was an RCMP officer

lol

# ? Jul 29, 2020 04:05

Suplex Liberace: Jan 18, 2012

I despise the RCMP and not just because I just finished read about their sled dog extermination policy during the 1950-60s. Useless evil agency.

# ? Jul 29, 2020 04:12

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Fried Watermelon posted:

Further to this it was revealed recently that the RCMP was informed about his drug smuggling, illegal gun collection, and hidden doors / stashes in his house and business a year prior

Also his uncle was an RCMP officer

lol

The whole thing is totally hosed, and the government tried/is trying to cover it up. Even this inquiry will have the former Federal Justice Minister, a former chief of police, and a former judge as commissioners. This story is going to get even weirder.

# ? Jul 29, 2020 04:14

mastershakeman: Oct 28, 2008; by vyelkin

I still think the guy was an undercover cop, sucked, but was kept on nominal payroll and got to drive "replica" cop cars because he wasn't an official cop, and that's why they're protecting him so much

# ? Jul 29, 2020 04:21

Giga Gaia: May 2, 2006; 360 kickflip to... Meteo?!

Suplex Liberace posted:

I despise the RCMP and not just because I just finished read about their sled dog extermination policy during the 1950-60s. Useless evil agency.

how do you feel about their fruit machines?

# ? Jul 29, 2020 04:25

StashAugustine: Mar 24, 2013; Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

Fried Watermelon posted:

Further to this it was revealed recently that the RCMP was informed about his drug smuggling, illegal gun collection, and hidden doors / stashes in his house and business a year prior

Also his uncle was an RCMP officer

lol

Canadian Gladio! Canadian Gladio!

# ? Jul 29, 2020 05:17

taqueso: Mar 8, 2004

mastershakeman posted:

I still think the guy was an undercover cop, sucked, but was kept on nominal payroll and got to drive "replica" cop cars because he wasn't an official cop, and that's why they're protecting him so much

what undercover cop would drive pretend cop cars, right? its so stupid it's perfect

# ? Jul 29, 2020 05:18

nut: Jul 30, 2019

Suplex Liberace posted:

I despise the RCMP and not just because I just finished read about their sled dog extermination policy during the 1950-60s. Useless evil agency.

do u know of any good RCMP books. this week I started a collection of essays on Canadian domestic surveillance by Greg Kealey but I�m always looking for more.

turns out back during the Fenian rebellions that the province of Canada immediately turned to gladio solutions even when back in Britain everyone had grown scared and untrusting of spy programs

# ? Jul 29, 2020 12:18

Perry Mason Jar: Feb 24, 2006; "Della? Take a lid"

gh0stpinballa posted:

https://twitter.com/jeff_kaye/status/1288197000836419584?s=19

potential answer to why jeff was hired for dalton: perhaps his first job was supposed to be recruitment of certain kids from wealthy and ibfluential families. perhaps this was a non-starter, it would make too much noise. switch gears, change up, snap to: epstein procuring girls then using then to recruit other children to give him massages, then working up to sending them on kompromat missions. snap to: sexual abuse and degradation helping to break a subject's spirit as per MKUltra, making them more pliable assets.

gh0stpinballa posted:

holy poo poo i somehow completely missed that he was enrolled there as a student in 1967. smoking gun surely, most definitely he was groomed and recruited there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7RBx0X_ik0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1tyybVuSBU

# ? Jul 29, 2020 12:31

nut: Jul 30, 2019

gh0stpinballa posted:

holy poo poo i somehow completely missed that he was enrolled there as a student in 1967. smoking gun surely, most definitely he was groomed and recruited there.

mamma mia

# ? Jul 29, 2020 12:35

Fried Watermelon: Dec 29, 2008

mastershakeman posted:

I still think the guy was an undercover cop, sucked, but was kept on nominal payroll and got to drive "replica" cop cars because he wasn't an official cop, and that's why they're protecting him so much

He ran drugs for the RCMP I bet and got fed up when he wasn't turned into a cop

Sort of like a vampire and their thralls

# ? Jul 29, 2020 14:45

Suplex Liberace: Jan 18, 2012

nut posted:

do u know of any good RCMP books. this week I started a collection of essays on Canadian domestic surveillance by Greg Kealey but I�m always looking for more.

turns out back during the Fenian rebellions that the province of Canada immediately turned to gladio solutions even when back in Britain everyone had grown scared and untrusting of spy programs

Maybe Clearing the Plains? Most of the RCMP knowledge i have is pre ww1 from just reading Canadian and Indigenous history. The dog genocide came from All Our Relations by Tanya Talaga which is not thread themed but infuriating all the same (its about the disturbingly high child suicide rate among all indigenous peoples globally). Is https://utorontopress.com/ca/spying-on-canadians-4 the collection you were talking about? I might spend a few hours checking some university press sites for books now ill post some good looking ones if i find em.

# ? Jul 29, 2020 14:48

Suplex Liberace: Jan 18, 2012

wtf the paperback and the ebook are the same price gently caress off uoft press

# ? Jul 29, 2020 14:50

punished milkman: Dec 5, 2018; would have won

remember the time the rcmp guided two very mentally unwell people through literally every single step of committing an act of terror (coming up with plan, buying supplies, etc) up til the execution then was like �aha! we stopped the terrorists!� when they arrested them? :canada:

# ? Jul 29, 2020 14:55

Excelzior: Jun 24, 2013

punished milkman posted:

remember the time the rcmp guided two very mentally unwell people through literally every single step of committing an act of terror (coming up with plan, buying supplies, etc) up til the execution then was like �aha! we stopped the terrorists!� when they arrested them?

lmao what

tell me that poo poo got slapped down in court HARD at least

# ? Jul 29, 2020 15:01

punished milkman: Dec 5, 2018; would have won

Excelzior posted:

lmao what

tell me that poo poo got slapped down in court HARD at least

surprisingly enough it did. i�m sure there are better articles on it, but here�s one: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/john-nuttall-amanda-korody-2018-1.4952431

# ? Jul 29, 2020 15:04

Suplex Liberace: Jan 18, 2012

they should have just done the act and pin it on them after, like the farmer they pinned an oil well explosion on, that they did.

# ? Jul 29, 2020 15:05

BrutalistMcDonalds: Oct 4, 2012; Lipstick Apathy

gh0stpinballa posted:

https://twitter.com/jeff_kaye/status/1288197000836419584?s=19

potential answer to why jeff was hired for dalton: perhaps his first job was supposed to be recruitment of certain kids from wealthy and ibfluential families. perhaps this was a non-starter, it would make too much noise. switch gears, change up, snap to: epstein procuring girls then using then to recruit other children to give him massages, then working up to sending them on kompromat missions. snap to: sexual abuse and degradation helping to break a subject's spirit as per MKUltra, making them more pliable assets.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4NTaoenshE

# ? Jul 29, 2020 15:10

Impkins Patootie: Apr 20, 2017

punished milkman posted:

remember the time the rcmp guided two very mentally unwell people through literally every single step of committing an act of terror (coming up with plan, buying supplies, etc) up til the execution then was like �aha! we stopped the terrorists!� when they arrested them?

just where do u think they picked that up from huh

gh0stpinballa posted:

im guessing these documents in the maxwell case wont be released

# ? Jul 29, 2020 15:10

Suplex Liberace: Jan 18, 2012

Gislane Maxwell never heard of her? She famous?

# ? Jul 29, 2020 15:18

Perry Mason Jar: Feb 24, 2006; "Della? Take a lid"

Excelzior posted:

lmao what

tell me that poo poo got slapped down in court HARD at least

Look without even being familiar with it I know that it didn't get slapped down in court.

If they only did it once - lol - that would be pretty galling but surely it's routine. It's certainly routine for the FBI.

# ? Jul 29, 2020 15:19

Perry Mason Jar: Feb 24, 2006; "Della? Take a lid"

Suplex Liberace posted:

Gislane Maxwell never heard of her? She famous?

Yeah, she's friends with the freaking president.

# ? Jul 29, 2020 15:19

Suplex Liberace: Jan 18, 2012

Thats troubling i heard hes not the nicest of people

# ? Jul 29, 2020 15:21

Perry Mason Jar: Feb 24, 2006; "Della? Take a lid"

He's a pedophile and rapist, OP.

# ? Jul 29, 2020 15:24

Admiral Ray: May 17, 2014; Proud Musk and Dogecoin fanboy

gh0stpinballa posted:

https://twitter.com/jeff_kaye/status/1288197000836419584?s=19

potential answer to why jeff was hired for dalton: perhaps his first job was supposed to be recruitment of certain kids from wealthy and ibfluential families. perhaps this was a non-starter, it would make too much noise. switch gears, change up, snap to: epstein procuring girls then using then to recruit other children to give him massages, then working up to sending them on kompromat missions. snap to: sexual abuse and degradation helping to break a subject's spirit as per MKUltra, making them more pliable assets.

# ? Jul 29, 2020 15:34

nut: Jul 30, 2019

Suplex Liberace posted:

wtf the paperback and the ebook are the same price gently caress off uoft press

lol yeah I bought the physical. I�ve only read a couple so far but it�s pretty good. he mentions another book he was one of the authors on called Secret Service that goes up to 2012 that I�ll probably try to snag if this is good.

though the two books you mentioned sound good👀

# ? Jul 29, 2020 16:53

nut: Jul 30, 2019

Federal Bureau of Intrapment

# ? Jul 29, 2020 16:54

Wraith of J.O.I.: Jan 25, 2012

Laterite posted:

Has anything come of this yet?

https://twitter.com/reuters/status/1288582760320446465?s=21

# ? Jul 29, 2020 22:14

Ytlaya: Nov 13, 2005

Happy Thread posted:

Also the only people more boring than ufo deniers are evopsych deniers. Denying the basic economics that mathematically play out in gene pools. In brains that are indifferently assembled by gene pools. Really, it goes back to nearly everyone having poor intuition about the power of exponents, such as after n generations.

Or pretending that gender is not an important variable in gene pools, under the delusional view that the act of reproduction requires that everyone pay an identical investment cost, even the individuals who lack the hardware to incubate babies in their own bodies.

Not just people who hate chud evopsych evangelicals, but who flatly rule out the whole inquiry because of that association. Boring.

Edit: Removed unintentionally problematic language. Also, clarifying that I know the wider "evopsych" discipline (not just the narrower premise) is widely full of poo poo and I am not defending the whole thing. Please do not make a pariah out of or ostracize another leftist, especially when it's that poster feeling the need to stand up for another leftist who just got overaggressively dogpiled 2 pages ago. And don't put words in my mouth outside of what I actually wrote either, because I fully do understand the damage done by the likes of Pinker et al who try to mix their most loathsome ideas with sound ones.

I can understand why this sort of reasoning would make sense to a layperson, but in reality human behavior/psychology is a result of a combination of genes, environment, and genes x environment interaction.

Basically "genes affect the brain and thus many aspects of behavior" does not mean "therefore any particular behavior has its root in genetics." The human brain is very plastic and in practice it is usually impossible to truly control for environment in human studies.

# ? Jul 29, 2020 22:18

Wheeee: Mar 11, 2001; When a tree grows, it is soft and pliable. But when it's dry and hard, it dies.

Hardness and strength are death's companions. Flexibility and softness are the embodiment of life.

That which has become hard shall not triumph.

having strong opinions about gender while understanding so little i end up conflating it with sex

# ? Jul 29, 2020 22:31

Fiend: Dec 2, 2001

Suplex Liberace posted:

Gislane Maxwell never heard of her? She famous?

You ever heard of Maxwell House coffee? She knows that guy!

# ? Jul 29, 2020 22:40

Impkins Patootie: Apr 20, 2017

# ? Jul 29, 2020 23:58

Suplex Liberace: Jan 18, 2012

https://twitter.com/KlasfeldReports/status/1288606423786704896?s=20

Give me thedamn documents!!!

# ? Jul 30, 2020 00:02

Wraith of J.O.I.: Jan 25, 2012

Suplex Liberace posted:

Give me thedamn documents!!!

looks like we'll be getting some tomorrow!

https://twitter.com/KlasfeldReports/status/1288608289807306752

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Suplex Liberace posted:

https://twitter.com/KlasfeldReports/status/1288606423786704896?s=20

Give me thedamn documents!!!

i wonder what random death or 'suicide' could stop the docs coming out tomorrow AM

i guess we'll find out in the next 12 hours!

# ? Jul 30, 2020 00:13

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