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MomJeans420 posted:Tweet that at him at 2am on Friday night and I bet it will end up in a future Tesla 
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FMguru posted:thermal solar is a great idea, but it just isnt going down the cost curve in the same way that photovoltaic solar is How much of PV solar's (gently caress, battery capacity's) price drops are up to just us exploiting China's willingness to abuse workers, generate cheap dirty electricity and not give a poo poo about pollution to drive down manufacturing costs though? And as difficult as thermal solar maintenance is, at least it's economically feasible instead of just starting from scratch. I genuinely would love to know if someone's done the math. Maybe not enough to do it myself though.
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endlessmonotony posted:How much of PV solar's (gently caress, battery capacity's) price drops are up to just us exploiting China's willingness to abuse workers, generate cheap dirty electricity and not give a poo poo about pollution to drive down manufacturing costs though? Battery electric systems were all the hype for the last 5 years in governments eyes. Without subsidies and a strong public interest no company is forking the billions for prototypes and demonstrators on industrial scale. Solar thermal power is confronted by very simplistic problems but at least in Europe there is no incentive to invest money and brain matter into solving them at the moment and Europe's green parties hate large scale energy production because it goes against the idea of the local artisan power generation on your grandma's shed, as opposed to keeping the large energy companies in the reign of the energy market. A project like ITER for example would have hardly received European support had it been founded at this day and age and the German green party for example is actively trying to Torpedo it in parliament. It's the same story with non battery based grid energy stabilization. Everyone knows we won't get around large scale E-fuel/hydrogen production for both mobility and grid stabilization purposes but politicians ditch the conversation about that in the current political climate because building battery banks for everything is a much simpler way of appearing green in public. The industry has all the plans in the drawer at this point, it's just not the time to engineer the actual machines.
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it would be fun if the usa (and all the economies that follow it along) could mobilize their economy again eventually like during ww2 but eh whatever time to die i guess
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Combat Theory posted:Battery electric systems were all the hype for the last 5 years in governments eyes. Without subsidies and a strong public interest no company is forking the billions for prototypes and demonstrators on industrial scale. "and after the batteries are no longer suited for cars they can be repurposed into municipal power storage" 
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Where they suddenly stop to age and degrade obviously. Berlin needs 1.5 Gigawatt of mean power to sustain itself. Just run the numbers on what kind of battery you would need to power a City and then how long said battery will last before degrading past it's usage. All that while not having a unified battery architecture, voltage, amperage, communications protocol, geometry and an unverified history of the individual accumulators Good stuff.
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PokeJoe posted:what do you need it for want Nitr0 posted:it looks so cool why'd they have to call it a mustang dang nabbit. yeah the mustang badging is dumb but i just watched the ken tune video with him driving the über mach e (i’m calling it the mach e) and i guess ford is taking the badge seriously at least
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Combat Theory posted:The industry has all the plans in the drawer at this point, it's just not the time to engineer the actual machines. "We could solve this problem but it's never the right time until it's too late." Heard that one before.
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You are acting like the executive companies decide what gets subsidized and what not. Why should a company seeking Profit invest billions into a technology now that is not subsidized when it can make money with a simpler, established technology? Are you blaming people for preventing a company from going broke or commiting fraud in order to cook the books? In the Tesla thread? E: or to bring it back to a technology argument If I was Audi (who currently holds the tech for commercial power to gas production together with a large energy company) and decided to fully fund a demo facility that turns excess power into regenerative methane, accumulates it and burns it in order to produce power in time of demand, I would actually have to pay for the emitted CO2 under current legislation due to the way emissions are counted despite the whole operation being co2 neutral Why the hell would I (Audi) set my plans into action at this point and go die on a environmentally friendly hill that no one will even notice Combat Theory fucked around with this message at 13:56 on Jul 29, 2020 |
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yippee cahier posted:where are you on a worldwide grid?
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Combat Theory posted:You are acting like the executive companies decide what gets subsidized and what not. Why should a company seeking Profit invest billions into a technology now that is not subsidized when it can make money with a simpler, established technology? Are you blaming people for preventing a company from going broke or commiting fraud in order to cook the books? In the Tesla thread? A bit more general a we.
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Glorgnole posted:solar FREAKIN roadways!!! https://www.sciencealert.com/the-world-s-first-solar-road-has-turned-out-to-be-a-disappointing-failure
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Jonny 290 posted:if we got off our rear end and got our grid on HVDC we could put solar thermal plants in a few worthless corners of southwest states and generate enough power to run the entire nation for free forever, including transmission losses sorry, love the ac
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endlessmonotony posted:How much of PV solar's (gently caress, battery capacity's) price drops are up to just us exploiting China's willingness to abuse workers, generate cheap dirty electricity and not give a poo poo about pollution to drive down manufacturing costs though? solar panels have their own version of moore's law, called swanson's law: the price of solar photovoltaic modules tends to drop 20 percent for every doubling of cumulative shipped volume labor costs have almost nothing to do with it. chinas underpaid labor force is more or less the same as it was ten years ago, yet the costs of solar panels have dropped almost 90% in that time. i dont think workers in china are earning one-tenth of what they did a decade ago
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FMguru posted:handling the molten salt is tough - if you use metal pipes they corrode, and if you use plastic/pvc pipes they melt have you considered just using rocks?
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Jimmy Carter posted:have you considered just using rocks? this was actually my thought but lazier: just pour it into a big ole granite bath. Pool covering optional.
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OJ MIST 2 THE DICK posted:sorry, love the ac
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OJ MIST 2 THE DICK posted:sorry, love the ac bold to defend Tesla in this of all threads
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PIZZA.BAT posted:want it has a big iPad on the dash
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PokeJoe posted:it has a big iPad on the dash yeah i know. that part sucks
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they also copied the lack of manual door release in the back seats. very original they did add a backup battery for it though
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Spatial posted:they also copied the lack of manual door release in the back seats. very original How much drain could the little thing that goes "beep beep beep" need that it has to be on it's own battery?
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The great thing about Tesla isn't that they gently caress up, it's that fixing that gently caress up can be borderline impossible. I got a new car last December and had an issue getting my plates in the mail, it took a 3 minute phone call to the dealer and the problem was resolved. https://twitter.com/twcarey/status/1288570235281240064?s=20
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Jul 29, 2020 22:00
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just talk to elon, he'll set things right
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she only likes car she should love car
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"Yes," I said, "you LIKE the car." "For the love of memes, Elontresor!" "Yes," I said, "for the love of memes!" But to these words I hearkened in vain for a reply. I grew impatient. I called aloud -- "Theresa!" No answer. I called again -- "Theresa!" No answer still. I thrust an LED through the remaining panel gap and let it fall within. There came forth in return only a farting of the seat. My heart grew sick; it was the dampness of the Gigafactory that made it so. I hastened to make an end of my labour. I forced the last window into its position; I rolled it up. Against the flaky paint job I re-erected the old rampart of bazingas. For the half of a century no mortal has disturbed them. In Tesla requiescat!
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gschmidl posted:"Yes," I said, "you LIKE the car." I think 'science' might be better for 'memes'. Or maybe roko.
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the cask of elontillado
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in any functioning society the bank would have told the car company to go pound sand when they asked for the second loan. but i guess being a developing nation with iphones and electric vehicles is just requires some sacrifices
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what kind of pleb doesn’t buy two model y? one for you one for the wife. love the car
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Nitr0 posted:what kind of pleb doesn’t buy two model y? one for you one for the wife. tesla: love the car and hate your wife
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CampingCarl posted:Excellent. drat, you're right.
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Seems like this GBS thread is relevant...
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A little off topic, but I'm surprised that Elon hasn't been talking up space solar. A giant solar plant in a polar orbit beaming the energy back to earth seems like it'd proper scratch his space/supervillain itch, and it's a less obviously stupid idea than solar roadways
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Ichabod Sexbeast posted:A little off topic, but I'm surprised that Elon hasn't been talking up space solar. A giant solar plant in a polar orbit beaming the energy back to earth seems like it'd proper scratch his space/supervillain itch, and it's a less obviously stupid idea than solar roadways i remember thinking this was a good idea after reading about it in some scifi book but having what is essentially a giant death ray pointing at the planet is probably a difficult thing to get around. I think the idea was to use some super high frequency em in a narrow beam to avoid cloud attenuation and so that if you got off target it would attenuate out enough from the angle to not be a literal ion cannon, but rip any birds that got close.
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Jul 30, 2020 11:39
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you could build those in Sim City 2000 and their failure mode was great
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Powerful Two-Hander posted:i remember thinking this was a good idea after reading about it in some scifi book but having what is essentially a giant death ray pointing at the planet is probably a difficult thing to get around. Also battes and other buggos.
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MomJeans420 posted:The great thing about Tesla isn't that they gently caress up, it's that fixing that gently caress up can be borderline impossible. I got a new car last December and had an issue getting my plates in the mail, it took a 3 minute phone call to the dealer and the problem was resolved. she has a blue check, so elon *might* actually get it taken care of for her
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Ichabod Sexbeast posted:A little off topic, but I'm surprised that Elon hasn't been talking up space solar. A giant solar plant in a polar orbit beaming the energy back to earth seems like it'd proper scratch his space/supervillain itch, and it's a less obviously stupid idea than solar roadways he probably hasn't played that simcity
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:he probably hasn't played that simcity the Thunderbird’s remake has an episode with one of these, seems more his speed
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