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Paul Zuvella posted:elsha is a fun commander you take that back Magic is a game where fun things are bad and good things aren't fun.
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Cactrot posted:Magic is a game where fun things are bad and good things aren't fun. Is there any competitive deck building game where this isn’t the case?
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Jul 29, 2020 20:40
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Bust Rodd posted:As a serious Commander player the 2020 decks are roughly twice as powerful as the 2019 decks and the 2019 commanders SUUUUUUUUUUCK except for K’rrik, who is overpowered and cool. Seconding, the Jeskai and Temur decks from this year are pretty cool beans.
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Jul 29, 2020 20:47
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Bust Rodd posted:As a serious Commander player the 2020 decks are roughly twice as powerful as the 2019 decks and the 2019 commanders SUUUUUUUUUUCK except for K’rrik, who is overpowered and cool. Framboise posted:Seconding, the Jeskai and Temur decks from this year are pretty cool beans. The Jeskai deck has a cool theme in cycling, but without tweaks it's pretty weak. It wants to build up a board and get as many "when you cycle" triggers as possible, but it's really fragile and should have more recursion or at least a way to shuffle things from the graveyard back in. Other problems: the landcyclers don't trigger Gavi's ability; too many ETB tapped lands; and not enough cards with cycling. Drake Haven, Niv-Mizzet, and Locust God are all great enablers though. The Temur deck is bonkers right out of the box, however; I haven't had this much fun copying spells since Wort. Getting triple Frantic Search with karoo lands out is a lot of fun.
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Jul 29, 2020 21:50
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I should have specified that you'd want to switch to Brallin and Shabraz for the Jeskai deck. Pako and Haldan are pretty nuts at a full table too.
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Jul 29, 2020 21:59
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Yeah, throw the three Curiousity effects in the Jeskai deck and some stuff like Jeskai Ascendancy and it's night and day. The 2020 partners are pretty great Commanders, and the wedge commanders are hit and miss but largely good.
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Jul 29, 2020 22:05
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Is there no thread to talk about Modern and Legacy anymore? Where can I complain about WOTC banning staples of the format for literally a decade because their new stupid cards broke things.
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Jul 29, 2020 22:09
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Ciprian Maricon posted:Is there no thread to talk about Modern and Legacy anymore? Where can I complain about WOTC banning staples of the format for literally a decade because their new stupid cards broke things. You're going to complain about bans from years ago? Maybe try Reddit.
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Jul 29, 2020 22:17
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Mox Opal was banned just this year. Also yes, I just got back to game I have a years of complaining to catch up on.
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Jul 29, 2020 22:19
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Feel free to create a new thread about the formats. People are too hesitant to create new threads in TG. If there's no interest, it'll slip into the archives, no harm done.
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Jul 29, 2020 22:23
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post here why wouldn't you post here
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Jul 29, 2020 22:25
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There is a thread for eternal formats, but it hasn't been posted in for months. MTG Eternal Thread - Cardboard Yachtsmen
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Jul 29, 2020 22:26
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I found these threads on page five of the subforum thread list: Limited https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3361226 Cube: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3560252 MTG Pauper Thread - Cardboard Raft Boat: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3785890 Eternal: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3778620 and commander https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3636688 These are all also in the OP of this thread! Woop! but if modern and legacy don't fit any of these, still, you can make a new thread or post in this one whatever Leperflesh fucked around with this message at 22:31 on Jul 29, 2020 |
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Jul 29, 2020 22:27
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I think the idea is that other than Commander and Limited (which is essentially the Arena thread since thats where all drafts in the US currently take place), all other formats can safely be ensconced in this here general thread because they move much slower and its much, much harder to buy into them. A player looking to get into Legacy or Modern is looking at dropping 4 figures if they want to be relevant.
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Jul 29, 2020 22:49
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Captain Invictus posted:edit: gently caress yes. love these bad boys. <----- What uuuuuuuuup BTW, up thread where someone said to donate your commons to Commons4Kids, you may want to ask them first before sending. Sounds like they'll take them but they often can't actually donate them to the preferred places, so they might just be getting dumped on goodwill or sold somewhere else. "99% of the agencies we work with are religious based and will not accept Magic cards- we are currently learning this." https://commons4kids.org/newblog/?page_id=14
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Jul 29, 2020 23:00
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Would people be interested in doing an FNM style pod draft sometime this Friday? We would use https://mtgadraft.herokuapp.com/ for the draft portion and then play the games in arena. Since we are playing the games on arena we can decide what set to go with, though I would prefer m21 or dominaria. We would need 7 others to make the event work. This means you would need wildcards and/or enough of the cards to reasonably make the deck you draft. We would likely just use the discord to chat and discuss things so that's also probably a requirement. If you're interested PM me or message me on discord (I am mks5000 on there) Paul Zuvella fucked around with this message at 23:54 on Jul 29, 2020 |
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Jul 29, 2020 23:43
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Thanks guys. The cycling deck sounds fun, but if the other is straight up better I’ll probably go for that one.
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Jul 29, 2020 23:51
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uncle blog posted:Thanks guys. The cycling deck sounds fun, but if the other is straight up better I’ll probably go for that one. They formatted Kalamax extra weird so you can make them infinitely big if you simply copy a spell on your opponent's turn. It's very accidentally stupid.
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Jul 30, 2020 00:14
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Ciprian Maricon posted:Mox Opal was banned just this year. Also yes, I just got back to game I have a years of complaining to catch up on. I'm sure it was talked about alot when it happened
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Jul 30, 2020 00:33
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Captain Invictus posted:nice. I like the look of old foils better than new ones, new ones have integrated foiling with the artwork and in certain cases that looks better, but the rainbow sheen is much more subdued on it and if I'm getting unnecessary reflective foiling on my cards I want it to be as garish as possible Storm Seeker has the same weird collectors value as other LEG cards. Spike Weaver is $5 because remove a +1/+1 counter to fog is a unique effect valued by certain commanders. Ol' Roflelos is $20 because he can ramp too fast. Donate is $4.50. Great Whale is $10 because there's numerous ways to break its effect. Quicksilver Amulet maintains $5 price because cheating in fatties is cool oh hey great whale will untap more than 4 lands what did I just loving say Ruination is $5 because gently caress nonbasics. Furnace of Rath is also $5 because doubling is cool. The binder opens with Yavimaya Hollow, a $50 card. I will be here a while.
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Jul 30, 2020 01:02
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Thanks! I did a bunch of investigating myself and I think I identified most everything worth more than 2 dollars (or things I have multiples of that I can sell together for more than 5 bucks) so you don't have to do too deep a dive if you don't want to, but I do appreciate the effort. Nice to see rancor and some other commons worth a decent bit, though I wish I still had my cases and cases of commons if stuff like that green Urza's Saga common druid lady is worth a lot because I definitely had dozens of her. Bah.
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Jul 30, 2020 01:17
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Captain Invictus posted:anyways I took pictures of the entire rare binder and the stack of rares from my personal deck box. lol I remember when Might of Oaks was a thing because I don't think +7+7 had been done before then. how quaint. Static Orb is $15. Mana Severance a bit under $9. Vernal Equinox is $3.50. Tetsuo Umezawa is $50. Mirri's Guile is worthless give it to me jk it's $23 wheres its doubles master reprint I want one but not that bad. Wave of Reckoning is about $3. Remembrance is $4. Crackdown is $5. Bedlam is also about $5. Darkest Hour is $4.50. Tainted Aether is $4. Rishadan Brigand is 1.66, but the story behind that price is hilarious - look up "popeye stompy" if you want hard proof that mtg finance is broken and has been for years. Everything else is like a quarter to two dollars, it's an overwhelming amount of not that much individually. Signed cards are an unusual factor that depends a lot on to whom you are selling. Orange Fluffy Sheep fucked around with this message at 01:26 on Jul 30, 2020 |
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Jul 30, 2020 01:23
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Bust Rodd posted:They formatted Kalamax extra weird so you can make them infinitely big if you simply copy a spell on your opponent's turn. It's very accidentally stupid. Wait what's this combo
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Jul 30, 2020 03:19
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Framboise posted:Wait what's this combo kalamax + fork (or similar effect)?
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Jul 30, 2020 03:21
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Framboise posted:Wait what's this combo Your opponent casts a spell. You cast a spell that copies it, your first spell this turn. Kalamax makes a copy of it. Choose to target your original spell with the copy. The copy resolves, making a copy of your spell. Choose to target your spell with the copy. The copy resolves, making a copy of your spell. Choose to target your spell with the copy. The copy resolves, making a copy of your spell. Choose to target your spell with the copy. And so on.
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Jul 30, 2020 03:23
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Gross. I love it.
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Jul 30, 2020 03:24
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Throw in Ral, Storm’s Conduit to close out the game.
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Drewjitsu posted:kalamax + fork (or similar effect)? Your Fork says interrupt, that doesn't work with Kalamax 
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Jul 30, 2020 04:59
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Ciprian Maricon posted:Mox Opal was banned just this year. Also yes, I just got back to game I have a years of complaining to catch up on. Mox Opal was a component in broken decks long before Urza came along
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Jul 30, 2020 05:53
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Devor posted:Your Fork says interrupt, that doesn't work with Kalamax I mean, yeah, I have r&d's secret lair in play. Lucky guess.
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Jul 30, 2020 06:08
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Sampatrick posted:Mox Opal was a component in broken decks long before Urza came along Ya mox opal was like workshop in vintage where cards associated with it kept getting banned (e: excuse me, restricted) but clearly the issue was having a mox in modern, or a repeatable black lotus in vintage
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Jul 30, 2020 06:31
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Balon posted:Hell ya, I jam it in so many EDH decks. Great that it’ll have a little more availability. I'm curious, what use does it have in EDH? Tech against combos that involve repeatedly tapping and untapping permanents?
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Jul 30, 2020 16:45
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C-Euro posted:I'm curious, what use does it have in EDH? Tech against combos that involve repeatedly tapping and untapping permanents? Graveyard strats are quite powerful in a format made up 99 unique cards in a deck and built around situations of 'answer this or the game ends' and 'finish assembling this combo/engine and you probably win.' Having ways of filling the bin and pulling out what you need is just very, very powerful in general. Especially because you can build your deck to abuse Mesmeric Orb and break the symmetrical nature of the card- you can't stop your opponent from reaping some (unless they just have zero ways of interacting with their graveyard, at which point Orb also becomes an alternate win condition) but you can make sure you abuse it more, and better.
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Jul 30, 2020 16:56
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C-Euro posted:I'm curious, what use does it have in EDH? Tech against combos that involve repeatedly tapping and untapping permanents? Your graveyard is a visible library. Consider everything in your graveyard open hand knowledge. You know where a card is when it’s in your yard. Orb is one of the best ways to get everything you need in your library to where you can find it. In addition to graveyard strategies, there are several ways to win with an empty library in EDH. Jace WoM, Lab Man, and Thassa’s Oracle. Orb and something like Aphetto Alchemist or Basalt Monolith just dumps everything in to your yard whenever you want. Easy peasy.
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Jul 30, 2020 16:59
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Ciprian Maricon posted:Is there no thread to talk about Modern and Legacy anymore? Where can I complain about WOTC banning staples of the format for literally a decade because their new stupid cards broke things. The only way to play modern now is MODO which has tanked in popularity compared to Arena or paper which COVID has neutered. Also many people like myself have just been broken by Modern Horizons and recent sets loving with modern and legacy. I just haven't given a poo poo sbout modern for months personally and judging by this thread others feel similarly.
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jassi007 posted:The only way to play modern now is MODO which has tanked in popularity compared to Arena or paper which COVID has neutered. Also many people like myself have just been broken by Modern Horizons and recent sets loving with modern and legacy. I just haven't given a poo poo sbout modern for months personally and judging by this thread others feel similarly. for me, it was actually the looting ban. I really enjoyed all of the decks that got banned. I won't argue that it wasn't too good of a card though. it absolutely was
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Jul 30, 2020 17:29
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To say the virtual GenCon cube draft is off to a rocky start would be an understatement.
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Jul 30, 2020 17:30
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was a unicorn token in the cube? What?
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Jul 30, 2020 17:34
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Kurieg posted:was a unicorn token in the cube? What? Yep! Sadly the token disappeared when I went to deckbuilding. This event is so messed up, I saw so many duplicates. There were at least 4 Rhonas going around.
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Time posted:for me, it was actually the looting ban. I really enjoyed all of the decks that got banned. I won't argue that it wasn't too good of a card though. it absolutely was I think looting could be unbanned, I'm sure this is an unpopular opinon though. We all knew Hogaak was the real problem and that got banned at the same time, the looting ban hit a much wider swath of decks than was necessary to solve the actual problem with the format at the time. I also think Mox Opal was the wrong ban at the time, not sure if I think that should come off the list. I think Affinity being constantly wavering from terrible to great in the format was better for it than just eliminating it.
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