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LividLiquid
Apr 13, 2002

Open Source Idiom posted:

::Shh::

Half this show's writers are Buffy / Angel writers, including the guy who wrote this ep.
I'm well aware this is a Whedon helmed show. I just wanted to give the moment context for anybody who didn't know.

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Codependent Poster
Oct 20, 2003

James Paxton as young Garrett is cool.

howe_sam
Mar 7, 2013

Creepy little garbage eaters

I thought that guy looked familiar, it's Bill Paxton's son :unsmith:

Arist
Feb 13, 2012

who, me?


poo poo, I forgot this was on, what happened in the first five minutes?

turd in my singlet
Jul 5, 2008

DO ALL DA WORK

WIT YA NECK

*heavy metal music playing*
Nap Ghost

howe_sam posted:

I thought that guy looked familiar, it's Bill Paxton's son :unsmith:

I was wondering how they got an actor who was immediately recognizable as young Garrett!

Codependent Poster
Oct 20, 2003

Arist posted:

poo poo, I forgot this was on, what happened in the first five minutes?

Malick recruited young Garrett by telling him his future. Daisy and Simmons had a chat where Daisy was trying to figure out why Simmons reacted how she did when the implant was taken out.

Codependent Poster
Oct 20, 2003

Them bringing up the possibility that Fitz is dead makes me more confident that he's alive. Can't fool me, show!

howe_sam
Mar 7, 2013

Creepy little garbage eaters

Codependent Poster posted:

Them bringing up the possibility that Fitz is dead makes me more confident that he's alive. Can't fool me, show!

:hmmyes:

They can't push Malick's face in soon enough.

Codependent Poster
Oct 20, 2003

Mack is gonna follow through on that "I'm the guy that kills Gordon" line

Assuming Gordon is a traitor

Codependent Poster
Oct 20, 2003

"I like that! Yeah, thanks Phil!"

Arist
Feb 13, 2012

who, me?


"I saw these guys opening for Twisted Sister!" :haw:

Codependent Poster
Oct 20, 2003

So my thought is that Garrett is looking to get Simmons, and then that'll draw Fitz out.

howe_sam
Mar 7, 2013

Creepy little garbage eaters

Kick his face in Daisy.

Sirotan
Oct 17, 2006

Sirotan is a seal.


poo poo they're after Simmons aren't they :ohdear:

Sirotan
Oct 17, 2006

Sirotan is a seal.


Also god drat is Nathaniel just so fuckin lame, like I'm not sure if it's the actor or he's just written that way but if Daisy doesn't quake him into the stratosphere this ep I'm going to be so disappointed.

Codependent Poster
Oct 20, 2003

Sirotan posted:

Also god drat is Nathaniel just so fuckin lame, like I'm not sure if it's the actor or he's just written that way but if Daisy doesn't quake him into the stratosphere this ep I'm going to be so disappointed.

Garrett is more than making up for it, though. He's so fun.

Arist
Feb 13, 2012

who, me?


Welp

Codependent Poster
Oct 20, 2003

Look at these loving morons who don't understand that if you kidnap Simmons, you just bring down the wrath of Fitz.

Sirotan
Oct 17, 2006

Sirotan is a seal.


This episode is giving me so much anxiety

howe_sam
Mar 7, 2013

Creepy little garbage eaters

I'm a little annoyed the show has stalled out in the 80's, but on the other hand we'd better be getting Die Hard on the Zephyr next week to make up for it.

turd in my singlet
Jul 5, 2008

DO ALL DA WORK

WIT YA NECK

*heavy metal music playing*
Nap Ghost
Can't Jiaying be brought back from that?

Arist
Feb 13, 2012

who, me?


OH poo poo

Sirotan
Oct 17, 2006

Sirotan is a seal.


Well at least the spoilers were wrong and Sousa's still on the show. :unsmith:

howe_sam
Mar 7, 2013

Creepy little garbage eaters

On the whole I think it's only right that the show ends on more Hydra and Inhuman bullshit, but man, Nathaniel and Kora just aren't doing it for me.

I'm also starting to suspect they're going to hit a big ole reset button of some sort in the finale.

Codependent Poster
Oct 20, 2003

howe_sam posted:

On the whole I think it's only right that the show ends on more Hydra and Inhuman bullshit, but man, Nathaniel and Kora just aren't doing it for me.

I'm also starting to suspect they're going to hit a big ole reset button of some sort in the finale.

It would be funny if the series actually hasn't been set in the MCU, but now it is after all those timeline changes.

Sirotan
Oct 17, 2006

Sirotan is a seal.


Now that Garrett never becomes Hydra, does this mean we might see good guy Ward in the finale?

Codependent Poster
Oct 20, 2003

Sirotan posted:

Now that Garrett never becomes Hydra, does this mean we might see good guy Ward in the finale?

Ward shoots Garret with a sniper rifle and leaves.

Coulson: Glad I called that guy.

ShakeZula
Jun 17, 2003

Nobody move and nobody gets hurt.

turd in my singlet posted:

Can't Jiaying be brought back from that?

I would've thought so, but I guess they did manage to kill her before. Maybe she just can't come back from spinal damage?

Argue
Sep 29, 2005

I represent the Philippines

Argue posted:

What if they tip off Victoria Hand that she should be the one to recruit Ward instead of John Garrett, and they get back to the future with Ward having always been a good guy

Oh god, my idle thought might actually happen and I'm excited

Gonz
Dec 22, 2009

"Jesus, did I say that? Or just think it? Was I talking? Did they hear me?"
Paxton’s kid has got the Paxton mannerisms down pat.

Hot drat.

Sloth Life
Nov 15, 2014

Built for comfort and speed!
Fallen Rib
Loved this ep.

Eulogy for Enoch, Fitzsimmons family feels, confirmation Fitz is alive and loving the bad guys over, Dousy moments throwing shaaaade on Endgame, Coulson quips on point.

Jiaying and Daisy moments were heartbreaking. No Hydedad appearance now I think.

It must be weird copying your deceased dad's acting. Props to James Paxton.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to
Deke is gonna have to go all Die Hard to save MeMaw next week.

Codependent Poster
Oct 20, 2003

twistedmentat posted:

Deke is gonna have to go all Die Hard to save MeMaw next week.

Deke Hard.

But nah, this is leading up to Fitz making his grand return. He's gotta have a badass entrance for being off the show so long. Simmons will get the implant removed, the chronicroms will think they have him, then he'll turn the tables on them.

Zebulon
Aug 20, 2005

Oh god why does it burn?!

Codependent Poster posted:

Deke Hard.

But nah, this is leading up to Fitz making his grand return. He's gotta have a badass entrance for being off the show so long. Simmons will get the implant removed, the chronicroms will think they have him, then he'll turn the tables on them.

The return of Fitz with a pump action shotgun and a lot of anger to work through.

Argue
Sep 29, 2005

I represent the Philippines
Just had a thought: what if Fitz is "alive" by virtue of him now living in Jemma's head. A real version of his consciousness that is, not a hallucination like the Jemma in his head from before.

Andrew_1985
Sep 18, 2007
Hay hay hay!
I’m honestly not going to be happy if we don’t get some S1 shenanigans with Ward in the finale.

And what a waste of Jaiying.

Still, Sousa has been the best part of the season.

Did teen Gordon die?

Slashrat
Jun 6, 2011

YOSPOS
Jaiying might not be quite dead yet. She survived dissection after all.

She’d probably need a doctor though.

Daisy knows where to find a certain doctor Johnson

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

Slashrat posted:

Jaiying might not be quite dead yet. She survived dissection after all.

She’d probably need a doctor though.

Daisy knows where to find a certain doctor Johnson

Didn't they imply he sacrificed people to her powers in order to resurrect her?

Can't see Daisy sacrificing people to her vampire mother.

Namnesor
Jun 29, 2005

Dante's allowance - $100
Young John Garrett was exactly what this show needed to make the villains fun again.

And getting James Paxton to play him is inspired.

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howe_sam
Mar 7, 2013

Creepy little garbage eaters

Slashrat posted:

Jaiying might not be quite dead yet. She survived dissection after all.
if you destroy Jiaying's spine she can't respawn.

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