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Rev. Bleech_ posted:I mean after Homer was raped by a panda it was all kinda low Homer's in a panda suit, I always read it as just the suit getting penetrated, not him himself. Having your main character be anally raped seems a bit much even for Fox? e: bear in mind, this was before Family Guy really hit its "stride" and this became the network's main selling point, and the Simpsons up to this episode was never that kind of show
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Apu is American, he just plumb forgot about it.
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COMPAGNIE TOMMY posted:Homer's in a panda suit, I always read it as just the suit getting penetrated, not him himself. Having your main character be anally raped seems a bit much even for Fox? 
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Jul 31, 2020 06:27
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Good joke, but neither indicative of or comparable with panda rape
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Jul 31, 2020 07:06
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The difference is the classic jokes are actually subtle and aren't dwelled on.
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Jul 31, 2020 07:41
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Gargamel Gibson posted:No it doesn't. You should've watched the video that was supposed to prove your point. Have you ever heard actual examples of backmasking? It never sounds perfect. I very clearly hear “join the nah-vy”
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Jul 31, 2020 08:18
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It sounded kinda like it to me in that messed up backwards way but I also knew what to be listening for 
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Jul 31, 2020 08:54
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bobjr posted:In later Simpsons seasons there’s a fair amount of jokes about Milhouse being the product of incest I think it's a decent joke on a character whose parents were designed backwards from the kid so they look exactly like each other.
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bobjr posted:In later Simpsons seasons there’s a fair amount of jokes about Milhouse being the product of incest I sleep in a big bed with my sister
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Jul 31, 2020 11:01
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Piss Meridian posted:I sleep in a big bed with my sister lol
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Jul 31, 2020 11:01
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It's quite possible Luanne is Kirk's Shelbyville counterpart, and also his cousin.
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Jul 31, 2020 11:46
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Ghost Leviathan posted:It's quite possible Luanne is Kirk's Shelbyville counterpart, and also his cousin. When Milhouse meets his Shelbyville counterpart will always be my favorite Milhouse moment. "Wait... your name is Milhouse? I thought I was the only one..." 
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Jul 31, 2020 12:09
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Piss Meridian posted:I sleep in a big bed with my sister Can I borrow a sibling?
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COMPAGNIE TOMMY posted:Homer's in a panda suit, I always read it as just the suit getting penetrated, not him himself. Having your main character be anally raped seems a bit much even for Fox? don't think i didn't see what you did PostNouveau posted:Reading between the lines in all the articles about it, Azaria was the one to put a stop to it in the end. really? i remember watching an interview where azaria was pretty mad at the apu documentary and insisted that he wasn't racist.
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Jul 31, 2020 12:18
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Milo and POTUS posted:His parents met on HornPub That's a way better joke than they'd come up with now
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Jul 31, 2020 12:31
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Mr Interweb posted:really? i remember watching an interview where azaria was pretty mad at the apu documentary and insisted that he wasn't racist. Currently it seems if you're white you can go to town with accents on the Irish, Russians, English, Scottish, Italians, French, Germans, Canadians, Aussies etc. all you like because they're mostly Caucasian, but pretend you're from Asia, India, (North) Africa, a Native American, etc. and you might as well have showed up in blackface. It's not a perfect system, but it sure beats how things were. Iron Crowned posted:That's a way better joke than they'd come up with now I had that exact thought haha.
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Jul 31, 2020 12:56
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India was fair game accent-wise right up until a few years ago, for some reason. That one Drawn Together episode that I've posted about before I think was an attempt to call out the hypocrisy of that fact, but it immediately became a perfect example of "u know ironic racism is just racism"
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I think the new DuckTales is the one show that, for the most part, makes an effort to cast authentic voice characters for equivalent ethnicities and origins, with only a few notable exceptions. Hell, they even have Greek voice actors for the Olympian gods. (albeit that might be partly coincidence in that Storkules shares a VA with Mickey Mouse) Probably trying to make up for the Disney Afternoon despite its quality having a lot of dodgy accents and pretty on the nose racism. (and 80s/90s Disney in general)
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Mr Interweb posted:really? i remember watching an interview where azaria was pretty mad at the apu documentary and insisted that he wasn't racist. Oh? I swear I saw an interview where he was like "I had no idea how much damage it was doing until I saw that documentary." Edit: I could see him saying both things because that documentary was aimed right at him. He probably felt fairly personally attacked. Data Graham posted:India was fair game accent-wise right up until a few years ago, for some reason. That one Drawn Together episode that I've posted about before I think was an attempt to call out the hypocrisy of that fact, but it immediately became a perfect example of "u know ironic racism is just racism" That entire show is "Ironic biogtry but actually just bigotry" PostNouveau fucked around with this message at 17:25 on Jul 31, 2020 |
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Jul 31, 2020 17:06
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Iron Crowned posted:That's a way better joke than they'd come up with now Mapple!
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Jul 31, 2020 17:49
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You won't want to miss next episode! Bart gets addicted to Fortnite and, Actually that's it, that's all we got
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I didn’t know they had the Ren and Stimpy creator do an opening just a few years ago. I don’t know how much of his bad stuff was out then but that seems like it was well known then.
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bobjr posted:I didn’t know they had the Ren and Stimpy creator do an opening just a few years ago. I don’t know how much of his bad stuff was out then but that seems like it was well known then. That was probably like 10 years ago now.
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Jul 31, 2020 19:40
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Much like all of the guest openings, it's terrible, which pairs well with the terrible, unfunny show.
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PostNouveau posted:Oh? I swear I saw an interview where he was like "I had no idea how much damage it was doing until I saw that documentary." yeah, it could very well be possible both those things occurred. i just remember his initial reaction he didn't take it well.
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Phlegmish posted:You won't want to miss next episode! Bart gets addicted to Fortnite and, Something about Star Wars and/or Avengers where Bart is the kid that Thor trash talks to over voice in Endgame for trolling his large idiot kiwi rock monster son, but that's probably too sophisticated Still want to see what a Kingdom Hearts appearance looks like. Probably weird but can't be much worse.
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Phlegmish posted:You won't want to miss next episode! Bart gets addicted to Fortnite and, Bortnite
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Aug 1, 2020 05:54
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You mean there really is a Bort? Good lard!
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Riptor posted:Bortnite Binebraft Bortfight Blortal blombat Bleet blighter Flubble flagon Hecken 7 Sameboy Haystation Fapple Hotify Brazilianpeanutwar fucked around with this message at 14:51 on Aug 1, 2020 |
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Aug 1, 2020 14:46
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I read a bunch of Simpsons comics back in the day, giving them another look. They were one of the last comics to still comply with the Comics Code, apparently. Kinda crazy they were contemporary. ed: Might just be nostalgia talking but they're still pretty funny, also I get more of the jokes now. Ghost Leviathan fucked around with this message at 15:17 on Aug 1, 2020 |
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Huh, the letters page of issue #11 predicted the Dallas joke that Part 2 would make, though I get the feeling that was a recent thing back then. Other suspects in the list are George Burns, Jay Sherman and Lex Luthor.
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AHH F/UGH posted:Well regardless, they eventually decided that he's an immigrant from India, so I'd imagine he's going to have an Indian English accent. That's not a bad thing on its own. It definitely helps connect the character to the struggles of immigration and what it means to be American and the cultural clash. You are incorrect and could find this info very easily via the world wide web
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Improbable Lobster posted:You are incorrect and could find this info very easily via the world wide web I can’t find any info on the World Wide Web where having a character be an immigrant and having their own English accent is a bad thing, help me out here
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The episode where Itchy and Scratchy's writers are a bunch of Harvard educated layabouts only capable of talking about going to Harvard and putting out crap, uninspired scripts may have been self-depreciating at the time, but now...
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AHH F/UGH posted:I can’t find any info on the World Wide Web where having a character be an immigrant and having their own English accent is a bad thing, help me out here It's not JUST the accent (although it is definitely an offensively stereotypical one on par with Krusty's "me so solly") but the combination of different stereotypes such as him working at a convenience store, being in an arranged marriage, living in a house that looks like someone asked a child what an Indian's house looks like, etc. They easily could have made the Indian immigrant character just be a normal person from India. Grounds keeper Willy is a great example here. Imagine if the school gardener + janitor was Spanish, spoke in an offensive accent, lived in a Spanish-style house, and had tons of kids. That's what Apu is. (Admittedly Willy himself also suffers from lots of Scottish stereotypes beyond his accent, like wearing kilts and playing bagpipes and being overly mean. I'm sure the writers have also had him do Highland dancing at some point too. But I guess at least he doesn't live in a castle and drink all the time???) CodfishCartographer fucked around with this message at 18:42 on Aug 2, 2020 |
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Well, he *is* from North Kilttown. That said, this is a stupid derail anyways but since the accent is basically the main sticking point for people, I don't think that the Indian English accent is any less valid or worse than English accents from the west. Hell, Indian English is probably the most commonly spoken form of English accents in the world. Literally the closest 7-Eleven to me has a guy there who is an Indian immigrant whose name is Sanjay and speaks a lot like Apu. Sample size of 1, yeah, but it is what it is. AHH F/UGH fucked around with this message at 18:50 on Aug 2, 2020 |
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CodfishCartographer posted:(Admittedly Willy himself also suffers from lots of Scottish stereotypes beyond his accent, like wearing kilts and playing bagpipes and being overly mean. I'm sure the writers have also had him do Highland dancing at some point too. But I guess at least he doesn't live in a castle and drink all the time???) Demoman?
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apparently in season 22's episode "Flaming Moe" (no relation) it's implied that the Bumblebee Man (another caricature played by azaria) is a furry And he is an extremely obvious racial stereotype, enough that in other countries they translate it to be a different racial stereotype. In mexico the lines aren't read for racial laughs, just slapstick. In latin america it's dubbed with a mexican accent. in spain it's italian.
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