Sagebrush posted:

why do people strip out THEN I LIFT from it so much

graey alien posted:

EVERY MORNING I WAKE UP AND OPEN PALM SLAM A VHS INTO THE SLOT. ITS CHRONICLES OF RIDDICK AND RIGHT THEN AND THERE I START DOING THE MOVES ALONGSIDE WITH THE MAIN CHARACTER, RIDDICK. I DO EVERY MOVE AND I DO EVERY MOVE HARD. MAKIN WHOOSHING SOUNDS WHEN I SLAM DOWN SOME NECRO BASTARDS OR EVEN WHEN I MESS UP TECHNIQUE. NOT MANY CAN SAY THEY ESCAPED THE GALAXYS MOST DANGEROUS PRISON. I CAN. I SAY IT AND I SAY IT OUTLOUD EVERYDAY TO PEOPLE IN MY COLLEGE CLASS AND ALL THEY DO IS PROVE PEOPLE IN COLLEGE CLASS CAN STILL BE IMMATURE JEKRS. AND IVE LEARNED ALL THE LINES AND IVE LEARNED HOW TO MAKE MYSELF AND MY APARTMENT LESS LONELY BY SHOUTING EM ALL. 2 HOURS INCLUDING WIND DOWN EVERY MORNIng

PIZZA.BAT posted:

like most things like this the egyptians had One Weird Trick and that trick was water

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1y8N0ePuF8

FilthyImp posted:

Musk thinks Americans are too entitled and loved the hard working intellectuals in China

quote:

the mercurial Musk

Powerful Two-Hander posted:

EVERY MORNING I WAKE UP AND OPEN PALM SLAM A STONE INTO THE SLOT. ITS GRANITE AND RIGHT THEN AND THERE I START DOING THE MOVES ALONGSIDE WITH MY TASKMASTER. I DO EVERY MOVE AND I DO EVERY MOVE HARD. PRAISING RA WHEN I ROLL SOME LOGS OR EVEN WHEN I MESS UP MY RAMP. NOT MANY CAN SAY THEY BUILT THE WORLD LARGEST CANOPIC JAR HOLDER . I CAN. I SAY IT AND I SAY IT OUTLOUD EVERYDAY TO PEOPLE IN MY NECROPOLIS AND ALL THEY DO IS PROVE PEOPLE IN THE NECROPOLIS CAN STILL BE IMMATURE JERKS. AND IVE LEARNED ALL THE HEIROGLYPHS AND IVE LEARNED HOW TO MAKE MYSELF AND MY FARM LESS LONELY BY SHOUTING EM ALL. 20 HOURS A DAY INCLUDING WIND DOWN EVERY WINTER. THEN I LIFT

Bulgakov posted:

Bulgakov posted:

literal clown shoes

The Little Death posted:

On the pyramids I think it's important to understand that Ancient Egypt was nto a modern labour economy or a modern state. The claims of slavery to build the pyramids are common because of the bible, but even then the actual biblical description isn't of a society run on slaves like it's usually depicted, but more of a forced relocation and labour because the isrealities were becoming too much of a presense with no alliegence to the Pharaoh, and they weren't used to build the pyramids but to build city infrastructures. Slavery as indentured servitude did exist in egypt, but it wasn't masses of slaves being whipped to death, especially as slaves had codified legal rights.

It does seem that building the pyramids was sort of a make work project for the peseantry, but it should be understood that as a subject of the pharaoh you owed labour to him. It was a corvee system for peasants. So like, it depends on how you define slavery. They weren't chattel slaves in the US or Brazil sense, but as a peasant you couldn't say "no I'm not going to build you a gigantic triangular coffin, my king". Worth noting that in addition to farming, a big role of peasants was maitaining the irrigation system which stretched quite a ways out from the Nile, so public works and construction was already part of their tasks for centuries before the pyramids at Giza were built.

I guess it boils down to whether you feel peasants or serfs were a type of slave or not. They were definitely slave ajacent, but I think slavery caries enough baggage as a term that it sort of obscures the actual reality in societies as wildly different as Egypt was to us.

E; But then also we live in a system where Elon Musk has had whistleblowers arrested and is probably going to force his employees back into his COVID petri dish factories under threat of starvation and financial destitution if they refuse, so maybe we shouldn't be throwing stones.

The Little Death posted:

On the pyramids I think it's important to understand that Ancient Egypt was nto a modern labour economy or a modern state. The claims of slavery to build the pyramids are common because of the bible, but even then the actual biblical description isn't of a society run on slaves like it's usually depicted, but more of a forced relocation and labour because the isrealities were becoming too much of a presense with no alliegence to the Pharaoh, and they weren't used to build the pyramids but to build city infrastructures. Slavery as indentured servitude did exist in egypt, but it wasn't masses of slaves being whipped to death, especially as slaves had codified legal rights.

It does seem that building the pyramids was sort of a make work project for the peseantry, but it should be understood that as a subject of the pharaoh you owed labour to him. It was a corvee system for peasants. So like, it depends on how you define slavery. They weren't chattel slaves in the US or Brazil sense, but as a peasant you couldn't say "no I'm not going to build you a gigantic triangular coffin, my king". Worth noting that in addition to farming, a big role of peasants was maitaining the irrigation system which stretched quite a ways out from the Nile, so public works and construction was already part of their tasks for centuries before the pyramids at Giza were built.

I guess it boils down to whether you feel peasants or serfs were a type of slave or not. They were definitely slave ajacent, but I think slavery caries enough baggage as a term that it sort of obscures the actual reality in societies as wildly different as Egypt was to us.

E; But then also we live in a system where Elon Musk has had whistleblowers arrested and is probably going to force his employees back into his COVID petri dish factories under threat of starvation and financial destitution if they refuse, so maybe we shouldn't be throwing stones.

Schadenboner posted:

I actually think the (contemporary and largely well-intentioned) labeling of all non-free labor throughout history as slavery is also tactically used by -types to excuse chattel slavery with the "everyone has used slaves" argument?

Lutha Mahtin posted:

my favorite thing about the giza pyramids is that there's a burger king and a mcdonalds right next to them

TerminalRaptor posted:

Makes sense, they're all temples to things with enough preservatives in them to last thousands of years.

Powerful Two-Hander posted:

and that contain offal

Lutha Mahtin posted:

my favorite thing about the giza pyramids is that there's a burger king and a mcdonalds right next to them

Lutha Mahtin posted:

my favorite thing about the giza pyramids is that there's a burger king and a mcdonalds right next to them

Endless Mike posted:

i'm at the combination pyramid and burger king

Laopooh posted:

The Little Death posted:

On the pyramids I think it's important to understand that Ancient Egypt was nto a modern labour economy or a modern state. The claims of slavery to build the pyramids are common because of the bible, but even then the actual biblical description isn't of a society run on slaves like it's usually depicted, but more of a forced relocation and labour because the isrealities were becoming too much of a presense with no alliegence to the Pharaoh, and they weren't used to build the pyramids but to build city infrastructures. Slavery as indentured servitude did exist in egypt, but it wasn't masses of slaves being whipped to death, especially as slaves had codified legal rights.

It does seem that building the pyramids was sort of a make work project for the peseantry, but it should be understood that as a subject of the pharaoh you owed labour to him. It was a corvee system for peasants. So like, it depends on how you define slavery. They weren't chattel slaves in the US or Brazil sense, but as a peasant you couldn't say "no I'm not going to build you a gigantic triangular coffin, my king". Worth noting that in addition to farming, a big role of peasants was maitaining the irrigation system which stretched quite a ways out from the Nile, so public works and construction was already part of their tasks for centuries before the pyramids at Giza were built.

I guess it boils down to whether you feel peasants or serfs were a type of slave or not. They were definitely slave ajacent, but I think slavery caries enough baggage as a term that it sort of obscures the actual reality in societies as wildly different as Egypt was to us.

E; But then also we live in a system where Elon Musk has had whistleblowers arrested and is probably going to force his employees back into his COVID petri dish factories under threat of starvation and financial destitution if they refuse, so maybe we shouldn't be throwing stones.

H.P. Hovercraft posted:

the exodus has little to no actual historical basis fyi

H.P. Hovercraft posted:

the exodus has little to no actual historical basis fyi

Sagebrush posted:

The Egyptian government maintains that the pyramid builders were not slaves. Supposedly the labor mostly came from farmers working in the offseason and they were all paid for their work.

I don't know if this is true or not.

Schadenboner posted:

I don't even think the pyramids are mentioned in Genesis? Like, maybe this is conflation with the idea that Joseph used the pyramids to store grain (which is apparently a common folk-belief among American protestants)?