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Elem7
Apr 12, 2003
der
Dinosaur Gum

smooth jazz posted:

It's just another thing that sucks about modern cars IMO, but some manufacturers are better than others at interiors.

I mean, come on:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swplZPJT2A0

It takes a certain level of OCD, but poo poo I'd be livid if my 80k E class panzer did this.

You know at first I was getting ready to type out a screed about how insufferable the interior toucher cult is but you know what, that IS bad!

So bad that I just had to do a double take to see if I was :thejoke: I'm sorry but do you really think if you get in a new E class, or any car for that matter, and press the interior it'll sound like crumpled aluminum foil? The audio on that videos obviously manipulated.

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KYOON GRIFFEY JR
Apr 12, 2010



Runner-up, TRP Sack Race 2021/22
also, if we're prioritizing interior trim functionality i think i go something like 1) doesn't rattle 2) looks nice 3) is nice to touch 4) is relatively inexpensive and maybe way down at the bottom is "when i push on it, it makes a pleasant noise or no noise at all"

Inner Light
Jan 2, 2020



That video is really wonky. Doesn't seem representative of the real deal. smooth jazz, you got duped.

That being said, there is a poster that mentioned new Audis he's been in have a lot of rattles when it gets cold :shrug:

KillHour
Oct 28, 2007


Residency Evil posted:

See, me too, but I think I'm going to get an expensive air cooled car from the 80s instead of an expensive new car because I'm less likely to get dragged out to get guillotined.

I think.

Don't worry. I'll let them know how much your car cost as they're dragging me away.

GlassEye-Boy
Jul 12, 2001
My BMW 4’s seats creak so yea...

Gangringo
Jul 22, 2007

In the first age, in the first battle, when the shadows first lengthened, one sat.

He chose the path of perpetual contentment.

Since I added stiffer bushings to my fiesta the rattles cover the squeaks so I'm all good.

Olympic Mathlete
Feb 25, 2011

:h:


T.50 announcement. Gordon Murray seeing the McLaren F1 he used for testing as his personal car and saying he got rid of it because the insurance was nuts when they became worth silly money is :v:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4EIYQ6fkG4

Olympic Mathlete fucked around with this message at 17:18 on Aug 4, 2020

smooth jazz
May 13, 2010

How can you tell they're fake? Current gen Benz interior creaking is like a youtube meme at this point.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlmbzLb-EWY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciMY_MKKGpM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GArPkgdH0sg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7fbVYiYp_w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uk4FbEvt-Ec

Tempted to low key try this on my colleagues mercedes

Inner Light
Jan 2, 2020



smooth jazz posted:

How can you tell they're fake? Current gen Benz interior creaking is like a youtube meme at this point.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlmbzLb-EWY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciMY_MKKGpM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GArPkgdH0sg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7fbVYiYp_w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uk4FbEvt-Ec

Tempted to low key try this on my colleagues mercedes

Maybe they're not fake.... those are pretty bad.

Wheeee
Mar 11, 2001

When a tree grows, it is soft and pliable. But when it's dry and hard, it dies.

Hardness and strength are death's companions. Flexibility and softness are the embodiment of life.

That which has become hard shall not triumph.

i guess they stopped using superior german adhesives

KillHour
Oct 28, 2007


My friend has a C63s and the creaking drives him absolutely insane.

90s Solo Cup
Feb 22, 2011

To understand the cup
He must become the cup



smooth jazz posted:

How can you tell they're fake? Current gen Benz interior creaking is like a youtube meme at this point.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlmbzLb-EWY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciMY_MKKGpM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GArPkgdH0sg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7fbVYiYp_w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uk4FbEvt-Ec

Tempted to low key try this on my colleagues mercedes

Each press breaks a million microscopic plastic clips.

smooth jazz
May 13, 2010



Would have been better if it was a middle finger or guillotine. Still cool.

90s Solo Cup
Feb 22, 2011

To understand the cup
He must become the cup



smooth jazz posted:



Would have been better if it was a middle finger or guillotine. Still cool.

The next Rolls-Royce I custom order will have a nice long middle finger lovingly rendered in aluminum billet in place of the Spirit of Ecstasy.

Nidhg00670000
Mar 26, 2010

We're in the pipe, five by five.
Grimey Drawer
Either the engine isn't centred in the car or the spirit isn't? :psyduck:

KYOON GRIFFEY JR
Apr 12, 2010



Runner-up, TRP Sack Race 2021/22
dildo

opengl
Sep 16, 2010

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NT8PMXCMrsM

FBS
Apr 27, 2015

The real fun of living wisely is that you get to be smug about it.


this looks like the PC case I had in 2009

OBAMNA PHONE
Aug 7, 2002

Olympic Mathlete posted:

T.50 announcement. Gordon Murray seeing the McLaren F1 he used for testing as his personal car and saying he got rid of it because the insurance was nuts when they became worth silly money is :v:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4EIYQ6fkG4

this video is insanely good, love hearing him talk about cars

KakerMix
Apr 8, 2004

8.2 M.P.G.
:byetankie:

"I think it's easy to have an excuse"
:hmmyes:

EDIT
"and I'm not talking numbers, I don't care. I don't care"
:hmmyes: :hmmyes:

KakerMix fucked around with this message at 09:22 on Aug 5, 2020

Mental Hospitality
Jan 5, 2011

That big honkin' fan sticking out the back is rad. I like the looks of the car, it doesn't look like it's trying to scatter radar like a lot of hypercars.

TheBacon
Feb 8, 2012

#essereFerrari

Watching the video it occurred to me I’ve never really heard Murray talk much but man, I absolutely would like to buy what he’s selling. He says all the right things for my dinosaur rear end soul. Also makes me appreciate the F1 way more than I ever have. I was always very almost indifferent to it before, but hearing more about it from his mouth makes it way cooler in that he actually got it done.

Applebees Appetizer
Jan 23, 2006

Never thought I'd see anything like the F1 again, that is amazing. The F1 has always been my favorite exotic car and it looks like this one will top it, cant wait to see the driving videos.

LeeMajors
Jan 20, 2005

I've gotta stop fantasizing about Lee Majors...
Ah, one more!


It’s pretty amazing seeing him kind somehow make a better F1 using modern tech to keep it austere as gently caress.

The F1 and F40 have been my favorite exotics for a long time because of the race-centric build and this thing is definitely a spiritual heir. Wow.

Boaz MacPhereson
Jul 11, 2006

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Two good eyes No Busted Limbs
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Keep muzzled...

Applebees Appetizer posted:

Never thought I'd see anything like the F1 again, that is amazing. The F1 has always been my favorite exotic car and it looks like this one will top it, cant wait to see the driving videos.

This is pretty much how I feel. Even through all the newer poo poo like when the Enzo showed up and various Paganis, the F1 was always my Peak Car. The T.50 is essentially a true F1 v2.0 and I cannot wait to see what it does. Hell, I might even buy a poster.

skipdogg
Nov 29, 2004
Resident SRT-4 Expert

Olympic Mathlete posted:

T.50 announcement. Gordon Murray seeing the McLaren F1 he used for testing as his personal car and saying he got rid of it because the insurance was nuts when they became worth silly money is :v:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4EIYQ6fkG4

Thanks for linking this video, it was excellent.

i own every Bionicle
Oct 23, 2005

cstm ttle? kthxbye
I’m looking forward to seeing video of it on the track, not just to hear it but to see how the suspension works. It’s so cool to see the old F1 pitch and roll around.

I remember reading though that a lot of people thought the F40 was nicer to drive than the F1 despite the lower performance.

heated game moment
Oct 30, 2003

Lipstick Apathy
What is that? some kind of Ferrari with a lovely body kit?

LeeMajors
Jan 20, 2005

I've gotta stop fantasizing about Lee Majors...
Ah, one more!


i own every Bionicle posted:

I’m looking forward to seeing video of it on the track, not just to hear it but to see how the suspension works. It’s so cool to see the old F1 pitch and roll around.

I remember reading though that a lot of people thought the F40 was nicer to drive than the F1 despite the lower performance.

Chris Harris video doing laps in both F40 and F50 and he's like howling with joy in the F40.

I'd give a nut to do a few laps in one. Just pure driver experience.

taqueso
Mar 8, 2004


:911:
:wookie: :thermidor: :wookie:
:dehumanize:

:pirate::hf::tinfoil:

heated game moment posted:

What is that? some kind of Ferrari with a lovely body kit?


Ford Focus with a totally sweet body kit

Applebees Appetizer
Jan 23, 2006

Well now that this has been announced, countdown to Ferrari F40 2.0 because they can't be out done right?

Oh please god that would be awesome

Olympic Mathlete
Feb 25, 2011

:h:


Can we just discuss how this is likely the last big 'manual' car? At least until Murray passes and some mentalist honours him with something similar. He's made a massive point of everything being as pure as possible and in 2020 that's loving nuts.

KYOON GRIFFEY JR
Apr 12, 2010



Runner-up, TRP Sack Race 2021/22
I generally suspect we'll see more manual niche high performance ICE cars over time once high-output EV becomes more of a reality, with more of a focus on experience over absolute performance (since EV will probably crush in terms of absolute performance in the future). I hope that's the case, anyway!

Godzilla07
Oct 4, 2008

Pricing details for the Mazda 3's Panic Refresh have been revealed. The 2.0 N/A is back to serve as the base model, and is competively priced with the base Civic trims. The 2.5T will only come with AWD, and an automatic, and it will start at $30,000.

A $30,000 Mazda 3 sounds like an extremely hard sell. I'm sure it's technically superior to a CLA or a 2 Series Gran Coupe but no one buys those cars on their quality. Those cars are bought because they're the cheapest way to get that badge. It is also worth noting that the 2.5T 3 will also be within $1K of a new Mazda 6 2.5T.

Guinness
Sep 15, 2004

Godzilla07 posted:

A $30,000 Mazda 3 sounds like an extremely hard sell. I'm sure it's technically superior to a CLA or a 2 Series Gran Coupe but no one buys those cars on their quality. Those cars are bought because they're the cheapest way to get that badge.

Both of those are realistically selling for near/over 40k, significantly more than the topped-out Mazda 3.

Wheeee
Mar 11, 2001

When a tree grows, it is soft and pliable. But when it's dry and hard, it dies.

Hardness and strength are death's companions. Flexibility and softness are the embodiment of life.

That which has become hard shall not triumph.

The difference is that you could be seen driving a Mazda 3 without the shame that would come of being witnessed driving a bargain bitch Benz.

It likely won't be a huge volume mover but the turbo 3 was necessary as part of Mazda's push upmarket, and if I were in the market for a new car it's a far more compelling option than most vehicles in the price range, assuming the drivetrain and suspension tuning aren't hosed up.

Kraftwerk
Aug 13, 2011
i do not have 10,000 bircoins, please stop asking

Wheeee posted:

The difference is that you could be seen driving a Mazda 3 without the shame that would come of being witnessed driving a bargain bitch Benz.

It likely won't be a huge volume mover but the turbo 3 was necessary as part of Mazda's push upmarket, and if I were in the market for a new car it's a far more compelling option than most vehicles in the price range, assuming the drivetrain and suspension tuning aren't hosed up.

It's a really nice car and I look forward to test driving one to see if the compromises are worth living with vs a GTI or Golf R.

Laserface
Dec 24, 2004

Olympic Mathlete posted:

T.50 announcement. Gordon Murray seeing the McLaren F1 he used for testing as his personal car and saying he got rid of it because the insurance was nuts when they became worth silly money is :v:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4EIYQ6fkG4

I watched this without knowing who Gordon Murray was because Im not super into hypercars or whatever they are called.


The guy waffles on with nonsense for like 20% of the video. I turned it off half way through when he was saying something about the aero giving them an extreme amount of control over the car and its experience and the experience is control or some other thought-loop sounding poo poo.

like a project manager that has sat in a meeting 10min before the interview with the engineering leads of each department and asked for the cliffnotes and talking points but without any firm understanding of what is actually done.

he also seems to bounce around between the car existing and being driven by himself and also that it doesnt exist yet and what they have simulated.


its a cool car though.

LeeMajors
Jan 20, 2005

I've gotta stop fantasizing about Lee Majors...
Ah, one more!


lol

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KillHour
Oct 28, 2007


Laserface posted:

I watched this without knowing who Gordon Murray was because Im not super into hypercars or whatever they are called.


The guy waffles on with nonsense for like 20% of the video. I turned it off half way through when he was saying something about the aero giving them an extreme amount of control over the car and its experience and the experience is control or some other thought-loop sounding poo poo.

like a project manager that has sat in a meeting 10min before the interview with the engineering leads of each department and asked for the cliffnotes and talking points but without any firm understanding of what is actually done.

he also seems to bounce around between the car existing and being driven by himself and also that it doesnt exist yet and what they have simulated.


its a cool car though.

Did... did you get lost looking for BYOB?

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