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Raping nazis is like killing hitler. It sounds like something OK to do, but if you look closer most people who did it were fascists and assholes.
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aside from the rape apologia this discussion always leaves a bad taste in my mouth because it puts you in the position of being on the same side as nazis and also occurs suspiciously often, while it's just assumed a priori that we all know of and condemn nazi crimes and thus you have the odd effect that allied war crimes get talked about in detail more often than the nazi ones in internet discussions. i don't think anybody here is a crypto-nazi or anything, just an observation that witnessing discussions on various forums over the years leads to repeated patterns
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Aug 5, 2020 00:30
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Pornographic Memory posted:i don't think anybody here is a crypto-nazi or anything, well not any more, at the moment 
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Aug 5, 2020 00:46
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Was that rape advocate a nazi?
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Aug 5, 2020 00:47
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extremely reliable in producing takes indistinguishable from nazis, so what is the practical difference really 
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Aug 5, 2020 01:02
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The story "every woman in Berlin was raped by the commies!" is nazi propaganda
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Aug 5, 2020 01:06
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:they weren't actually "antifa" stickers according to the police report, just nazi stickers, but paranoid boomers out in the sticks are going to paranoid boom, and it is now pretty funny (to me) they think the leader of patriot front is the local antifa-in-chief manlet
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Aug 5, 2020 01:13
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I don’t get the “and it was good!” angle they were going for, but I’m not wasting time thinking about a nazi’s motives.
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Aug 5, 2020 01:14
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ekuNNN posted:also he was just repeating nazi propaganda I'm not sure what you're referring to but it's widely accepted historical fact that there was an absolute shitload of rape in the initial occupation of Germany
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Aug 5, 2020 01:28
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cyfad posted:Mein Mampf Chow Mein Kampf
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Aug 5, 2020 01:34
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Jewel Repetition posted:I'm not sure what you're referring to but it's widely accepted historical fact that there was an absolute shitload of rape in the initial occupation of Germany I think it was the every women line. every occupation has some rape so tomake your enemies worse you have to punch it up a bit
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Aug 5, 2020 01:41
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one of my favorite plot lines in the show Oz happened in the last season. one of the series' worst prisoners, a guy from the aryan brotherhood gets kicked out (cause of a dental procedure that had his gums replaced with that of a dead black guy), and because he made some enemies along the way, he's pretty much marked for death. in order to keep himself alive, he agrees to become a sex slave to another member of the AB. turns out that the guy he's getting protection from is an even more sadistic rapist than he was. the reason i bring this up is cause even though the ex-AB dude was an absolute piece of poo poo who really deserved every bit of pain and humiliation he got, you still kind of feel for him, as he comes across being completely helpless and pitiful. Mr Interweb has issued a correction as of 03:05 on Aug 5, 2020 |
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Aug 5, 2020 02:27
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Mr Interweb posted:a guy from the aryan brotherhood gets kicked out (cause of a dental procedure that had has gums replaced with that of a dead black guy) Lol at this part
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Aug 5, 2020 02:52
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Jewel Repetition posted:Lol at this part yeah the best part is he brought it on himself. he needed gum surgery, so he went to the prison dentist who was middle eastern, and like a good nazi, he couldn't help but continuously make racial slurs, which pissed off the dentist. so in order to teach him a lesson, he replaced his gums with a dead black guy and paid another prisoner to spread the message throughout the prison.
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Aug 5, 2020 03:04
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Dunno if this is an unpopular opinion, but I pushed through watching Oz for like three seasons, and it kinda.... sucked? Great performances, sets etc. But the writing was yikes. It ended up feeling like a soap opera.
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Aug 5, 2020 03:04
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Grape posted:Dunno if this is an unpopular opinion, but I pushed through watching Oz for like three seasons, and it kinda.... sucked? it was definitely more groundbreaking in the 90s
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Grape posted:Dunno if this is an unpopular opinion, but I pushed through watching Oz for like three seasons, and it kinda.... sucked? tbh, i felt like the series got worse as it went on, even though there were some storylines that i liked. it became a really, really weird show in many ways.
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I mean that sounds like a soap opera plot
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Aug 5, 2020 03:13
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Adebisi, though.
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this is spoilers but lmfao at this career choice Simon Adebisi is a fictional character played by Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje on the HBO dramatic series Oz. Adebisi serves as one of the main characters in the first four seasons. After the first half of season four, his character was killed off the show so Akinnuoye-Agbaje could film the movie The Mummy Returns.
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Aug 5, 2020 03:14
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poo poo POST MALONE posted:Adebisi, though. gimme some TIIIIIIIIIIIIITS
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Aug 5, 2020 03:17
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Grape posted:Dunno if this is an unpopular opinion, but I pushed through watching Oz for like three seasons, and it kinda.... sucked? You have to remember that Oz was the first time network show runners got to do whatever the gently caress they wanted. So they went hard in the paint. They went from having to fight NBC for years to say "crap" after 9 p.m. to HBO saying " Sure, you can have a rape victim with a swastika burned on his rear end poo poo in a nazi's face".
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Aug 5, 2020 03:22
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Grape posted:Dunno if this is an unpopular opinion, but I pushed through watching Oz for like three seasons, and it kinda.... sucked? I don't really think that HBO shows got good until Deadwood came out.
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Zeroisanumber posted:I don't really think that HBO shows got good until Deadwood came out. I haven't seen Deadwood yet, but uh... The Wire dude.
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Aug 5, 2020 05:11
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Grape posted:I haven't seen Deadwood yet
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Aug 5, 2020 05:19
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There is a story line in Oz where they trial an aging drug on prisoners for reduced sentences. It probably wasn't even the dumbest thing in the later seasons either. Anyway enjoy this. https://mobile.twitter.com/ReeceGoddard7/status/1283088387260461057
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Aug 5, 2020 05:21
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spaceblancmange posted:There is a story line in Oz where they trial an aging drug on prisoners for reduced sentences. It probably wasn't even the dumbest thing in the later seasons either. Anyway enjoy this. lmfaooooo holy poo poo I'm gonna go hump the fridge.
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Aug 5, 2020 05:22
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HBO had plenty of good programming prior to Deadwood. The Sopranos, Arliss, 6 Feet Under, Carnivale, Taxicab Confessions, The Larry Sanders Show, et. al.
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Aug 5, 2020 05:26
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I've tried watching Arliss so many times. can't get into it.
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Aug 5, 2020 05:28
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I watched a few episodes of Deadwood but couldn't get over the homophobia
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Aug 5, 2020 05:29
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poo poo POST MALONE posted:I've tried watching Arliss so many times. can't get into it. Yeah, not for everybody. But it came out so long ago, I was much younger & thought it was funnier than hell.
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oz is one of those shows that hasn't held up particularly well, but it was definitely decent for its time and today's prestige tv owes a debt of gratitude to it for helping prove there's an audience for something darker than Law and Order.
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Pornographic Memory posted:aside from the rape apologia this discussion always leaves a bad taste in my mouth because it puts you in the position of being on the same side as nazis and also occurs suspiciously often, while it's just assumed a priori that we all know of and condemn nazi crimes and thus you have the odd effect that allied war crimes get talked about in detail more often than the nazi ones in internet discussions. i don't think anybody here is a crypto-nazi or anything, just an observation that witnessing discussions on various forums over the years leads to repeated patterns That's why I have this kneejerk reaction to people talking about allied war crimes. It isn't exactly taking a pro nazi POV but it does show just how ignorant a lot of people are to just how deep the horrors of the nazi state were rooted in its very existence. That's what happens when a bunch of weirdo nerds who failed at basically everything else had to come up with an ideology that made them special by purely their birth, because that was the one thing they had. poo poo POST MALONE posted:I've tried watching Arliss so many times. can't get into it. I watched one episode and it had a real strawman parody of a Black Activist on it. Also it seemed more about cigars than being a sports agent.
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I don’t understand why nazis think that talking about atrocities visited upon them by the winners of the war would draw people to their cause anyway. It makes them look like failures and vermin who invited their own destruction, but because of that weird rhetorical tic where they are simultaneously mighty supermen who deserve the world by right and blameless, hapless victims of the unscrupulous lesser races, they think it somehow justifies their violence and makes people sympathize with them. It’s extremely stupid, but so are nazis.
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Aug 5, 2020 06:27
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 in hell kris kobach, who just lost his senate primary. wannabe jorg haider rear end motherfuckerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgYv64Q0zpQ
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Azathoth posted:oz is one of those shows that hasn't held up particularly well, but it was definitely decent for its time and today's prestige tv owes a debt of gratitude to it for helping prove there's an audience for something darker than Law and Order. it's funny because it basically WAS law & order also in the hasn't aged well but was really good and important bracket: sex and the city
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Aug 5, 2020 07:17
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Mr Interweb posted:tbh, i felt like the series got worse as it went on, even though there were some storylines that i liked. it became a really, really weird show in many ways. i really loved the plot in the last season which involved the main characer and his nemesis playing macbeth and macduff in a prison production of macbeth and the suspense was like would one of them kill the other during the fight in the play by replacing their stage knives with real ones i also appreciated that like oz was so much like a theatre production I liked the sort of implicit reference to macbeth being the cursed play where someone always dies if you perform it
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a show that did age well though is queer as folk which iirc was out (lol) around the same time as oz well, i mean besides the main character loving a high schooler in the first episode but past that it still holds up (except for the lesbians but they were always the worst part of the show)
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Stefan Prodan posted:i really loved the plot in the last season which involved the main characer and his nemesis playing macbeth and macduff in a prison production of macbeth and the suspense was like would one of them kill the other during the fight in the play by replacing their stage knives with real ones i liked how in the 5th season, the leader of the AB finds out the leader of the Italian gang killed his son (because he was paid off by the AB leader's nemesis) and the two gangs go to war, which lasts for like 2 episodes and is pretty much entirely forgotten
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