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I didn’t hate it, but it’s trying waaaaaaay too hard to be Futurama with Rick & Morty humor and the whole show looks like rear end aside from some of the cg ship elements. The only positive things I can say are the theme is solid and they gave Phil Lamarr a quick paycheck.
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MikeJF posted:Lower aft saucer teeny tiny gas tank
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I think the visual style was perfectly fine if not great I've never watched Rick and Morty and I think it damaged some of y'all's brains
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I kinda wish they kept the crazy space adventure was in the background and not had the characters be central to it. That kinda defeats the purpose. I like Cat Doctor being all grumpy, and super aggressive Bajorian security chief. Like its fine, not the best thing I've seen. Though I didn't expect much, it's not say The Venture Bros or Harley Quinn.
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Powered Descent posted:It's only two decks high in the MSD, my immersion is ruined I see they went with the boring but logical method of having the turbolift shaft go down one of the pylons to the warp drive outhouse.
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Nullsmack posted:I see they went with the boring but logical method of having the turbolift shaft go down one of the pylons to the warp drive outhouse. God, how loving terrifying would it be, your first time on that turbolift when it gets to the warp pylon junction and the whole thing suddenly lurches 45 degrees to make the descent down to the nacelle? Especially at turbolift speeds, when you're not ready for it? 
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nine-gear crow posted:God, how loving terrifying would it be, your first time on that turbolift when it gets to the warp pylon junction and the whole thing suddenly lurches 45 degrees to make the descent down to the nacelle? Especially at turbolift speeds, when you're not ready for it?  Is there an explanation anywhere in trek as to why everyone uses turbolifts instead of just teleporting everywhere? Is it just so you don't have a crew full of mobility scooter sized fatsos replicating chocolate cake as their primary diet and being lazy as all gently caress? "Computer, replicate me some fat lines of andorian cocaine. I need to get hyped for my 3 hour orgy on the holodeck" G-III fucked around with this message at 04:46 on Aug 7, 2020 |
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Aug 7, 2020 04:43
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I was surprised by how much I enjoyed the Lower Decks premiere -- The animation isn't exactly great, but the humour pretty much all landed for me. I'm real excited to see if it can STAY funny though
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G-III posted:
The transporters use a poo poo ton of power and are honestly not that reliable. You don't want an ion storm making a 5 minute trip from the bridge to engineering into three hours of crawling through the bowls of the ship.
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Aug 7, 2020 05:49
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G-III posted:
"Remember Admiral Ciana and Commander Sonak? V'Ger Incident of 2273? Poor SOBs melted and turned inside-out in the annular confinement beam, and Earth Spacedock got two char-broiled corpses out of their transporter patterns? Yeah, that's why we don't use site-to-site transporters."
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Snorb posted:"Remember Admiral Ciana and Commander Sonak? V'Ger Incident of 2273? Poor SOBs melted and turned inside-out in the annular confinement beam, and Earth Spacedock got two char-broiled corpses out of their transporter patterns? Yeah, that's why we don't use site-to-site transporters." "Enterprise... What we got back didn't live long... fortunately."
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The only thing I felt was REALLY out of place was the episode making the officers going out of their way to show how much they don't care about the lower decks. The captain saying in her log that it was SOLELY the work of the doctor. Like of course we don't see much of the lower decks in the other series, that's kinda the point, but whenever those people did something good they would at least get honest praise and be given more serious assignments to see if they were promotion material.
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feedmyleg posted:I really enjoyed it, though definitely agree about being a touch bothered by characters acting like cartoons instead of people, like in the bar when Eugene Cordero and his date decide to keep casually chatting while their fellow crew members are turning into monsters in the middle of a chaotic outbreak. I mean of course they are cartoons, I get it, but it definitely feels like it breaks the reality a bit. Still, a minor complaint on the whole.
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I haven't watched it, but hearing cautious optimism from most of you gives me hope. Just the fact that it is Trek that isn't all in on body horror and violence is a massive plus. This is only available on all access in the US, correct?
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It kind of reminds me of Rick and Morty, to an extent. This is not a very new trope and it certainly wasn't invented by Rick and Morty. Obviously skilled older person takes on mentorship role of younger, dumber/inexperienced person. Older and more skilled person works outside of the system and comes off like a fuckup but is ultimately skilled and good at things. That's a bit of a zoom-out since Rick uses morty as a shield but... (This could easily be applied to Dr. Cox/J.D from Scrubs).
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Peachfart posted:Just the fact that it is Trek that isn't all in on body horror and violence is a massive plus. I’ve got some bad news
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Martytoof posted:I will never not guffaw at the Cerritos just NOPEing out of that Borg battle in the credits
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Arglebargle III posted:such a bizarre comedy concept What do you mean? 
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This was a Star Trek episode that had a well structured story with a moral lesson, well defined characters, and a good musical score. How long has it been since the last one of those and why are people complaining?
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Alchenar posted:This was a Star Trek episode that had a well structured story with a moral lesson, well defined characters, and a good musical score. How long has it been since the last one of those and why are people complaining?
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Disclaimer: I liked Final Space. I feel like LDS wasn’t sure if it wanted to be a parody of Trek, satire of Trek cliches, or just a Trek themed Loony Toons. Somebody else said it was too cartoon-logic and cartoon-cliche. Like a dude just being vaguely annoyed that his cybernetic implant is actively rewiring his brain. I feel like the writers were a little too eager to establish their Trek lore cred. I love the idea of a dichotomy between the senior management on the bridge, and the actual worker bees. I love the idea of seeing what “being in Starfleet” means to different people. The theme song is the sort of song you’d hear in another show doing a Trek sequence. I tried too much to sound almost, but not quite, specifically like the previous Trek openings, to the point of being distracting. Hopefully it calms down and finds its voice.
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I at least have a way better idea of who these characters are then after a like entire season of Discovery.
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Because I can’t just be happy and have to find things to complain about: On first watch what weirded me out was that even though this is supposed to be a cartoon and not necessarily representative of reality, it felt offputting how the senior crew were basically just giant dicks to their crew and I kind of hope they tone that down and refine it to a point in subsequent episodes. Honestly, I don’t think I dislike it because they’re awful people, but more because that joke will get old really quickly and there’s only so many things you can do before it’s really really played out. Seinfeld and Always Sunny make legacies of shows about awful people but they’re also the focus and we’re invested in them to a degree. If this show isn’t about the senior crew then this is just going to be “spunky young upstarts vs douchebags” which is fine if it’s 1984 and you’re writing Revenge of the Nerds but ehh.. At best I hope they water down the dickishness and bring it down to general indifference. E: I think what really prompted this was Ransom going all “Why aren’t you at your station ENSIGN  ” at Boimler — Because you just loving called him and he literally just stepped off the turbo lift you loving Pakled, what do you think?
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Martytoof posted:this is supposed to be a cartoon and not necessarily representative of reality, it felt offputting how the senior crew were basically just giant dicks to their crew and I kind of hope they tone that down and refine it to a point in subsequent episodes. Senior officers treating ensigns and crew like dirt is the most realistic element of naval tradition in this or any other Trek series.
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Sorry I guess I meant "canon reality" 
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Martytoof posted:not necessarily representative of reality,
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Martytoof posted:E: I think what really prompted this was Ransom going all “Why aren’t you at your station ENSIGN holy poo poo spacism out of nowhere
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Martytoof posted:E: I think what really prompted this was Ransom going all “Why aren’t you at your station ENSIGN He didn't call him. The Captain did. All Ransom knew is that some unaccompanied ensign walked onto the bridge and was looking around. Questioning him about it was probably the right thing to do?
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The Bloop posted:holy poo poo spacism out of nowhere There is actually a legitimate explanation for this, but the fact that the Trek Timelines mobile game won't let you use the word "pakled" in your name cracked me up when I first noticed it.
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Epicurius posted:He didn't call him. The Captain did. All Ransom knew is that some unaccompanied ensign walked onto the bridge and was looking around. Questioning him about it was probably the right thing to do? Ahh, I’ve been foiled by my own over analyzing of a cartoon :[
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egon_beeblebrox posted:I enjoy "Star Trek."
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I haven't seen nearly as much Star Trek as a lot of you (only DS9, Discovery, and Picard), but I liked Lower Decks a lot! It's so much better than I thought it'd be.
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Arc Light posted:Senior officers treating ensigns and crew like dirt is the most realistic element of naval tradition in this or any other Trek series. They should have introduced a new redshirt character every episode who inevitably dies in some gruesome fashion but I guess South Park drove the "You killed Kenny!" gag into the ground so hard no one can ever touch it again
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Lower Decks is the only new Star Trek that I can see giving an honest to god actual good episode. The first episode has all the baggage of introducing everything and felt rushed and awkward, but all the bits are there for this to be an actual Star Trek. I am looking forward to seeing if they pull it off or not.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:I didn’t hate it, but it’s trying waaaaaaay too hard to be Futurama with Rick & Morty humor and the whole show looks like rear end aside from some of the cg ship elements. 
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It feels good to... feel good  How will my optimism be crushed this time?
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Martytoof posted:It feels good to... feel good Deadline: Following Positive Fan Reactions, Alex Kurtzman Takes Over as Showrunner for Lower Decks
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Martytoof posted:I will never not guffaw at the Cerritos just NOPEing out of that Borg battle in the credits finally a trek i can relate to
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Maybe it's been explained in the prior 240 pages of this thread, but I'm confused by the Orion character on Lower Decks. She doesn't seem to have any of the drive-everyone-crazy Orion lady pheremones. Are the Orions able to turn those off? Was she born without them?
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