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al-azad posted:Doesn't Arcane Dimensions use real projectiles and fix the hitboxes so they're basically the shape of the model? I know I played a mod that did this (Quake 1.5?) and it was actually kind of annoying because your rockets would basically pass under an enemy's armpit. Rocket launcher when I can afford the distance (even medium range), rush point-blank BFG shot for when it's part of a pack and I need it dead RIGHT NOW before moving on to picking apart the rest. Generally the SSG comes out only pre-BFG or there's zero cover and I need the pain chance from a SSG blast at close range to keep its attack from (hopefully) going off.
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al-azad posted:Doesn't Arcane Dimensions use real projectiles and fix the hitboxes so they're basically the shape of the model? I know I played a mod that did this (Quake 1.5?) and it was actually kind of annoying because your rockets would basically pass under an enemy's armpit. Dunno about Quake 1.5, but AD doesn't mess with hitboxes. It just (optionally) makes shotgun pellets have some travel time.
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Aug 6, 2020 17:28
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Crossposting from STEAM thread because it seems right up you guys's's alley:Songbearer posted:This little banger showed up on the store for me and holy crap is it a lot of fun: A few more tips: If you think you've gotten turned around just count one and a half seconds and if you haven't seen an enemy, go the other way. The first three levels you can pretty much zoom through as fast as possible but since the amount of enemies increases from that point on, you can take a little more time per room because you'll make it back in murder. Reload speed and mag size for the pistol is really good so you can rely on it for a lot of the game if you go for headshots. When you get fast reloads and bigger mags the shotgun is the way to go, especially with exploding enemies.
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Aug 6, 2020 18:11
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That looks really cool. Zpc meets Nuclear Throne or something.
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Aug 6, 2020 18:20
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al-azad posted:You should quote yourself for the rest of us. https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?noseen=0&threadid=3420790&pagenumber=1663&perpage=40#post496172172 Quakespazm and command lines worked like a charm but the whole thing left me sour quick. Something about quake feels like its aged in a way that doesn't hit me as hard as doom and duke does. Speaking of Duke, Giving AMC TC a try and my loving lords after the re-keybinding and seeing whats up theres a headache inducing amount of stuff! Still, I'm feeling it.
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Aug 6, 2020 18:35
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I really, really wanted to like Golden Souls 2 more than I did. There's just too much stuff, and the cool ideas are spaced too thin. And even with the improved jumping, that just gave the creator more room to go crazy with more intricate platforming.
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Aug 6, 2020 18:49
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Narcissus1916 posted:I really, really wanted to like Golden Souls 2 more than I did. There's just too much stuff, and the cool ideas are spaced too thin. And even with the improved jumping, that just gave the creator more room to go crazy with more intricate platforming. It's really fun but I gave up after a while and just watched the Doom Mod Madness guy beat it. I found "too much stuff" to be accurate too. It is super cool though. You should try Lovely Planet. It is twitchy and there's a shitload of platforming. It's really unforgiving but it's fun as gently caress. caleb fucked around with this message at 19:08 on Aug 6, 2020 |
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Aug 6, 2020 19:03
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Songbearer posted:Crossposting from STEAM thread because it seems right up you guys's's alley: I bought this and am very much digging it but man I would love a "proper" game with this art style.
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Aug 6, 2020 19:16
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JLaw posted:Dunno about Quake 1.5, but AD doesn't mess with hitboxes. It just (optionally) makes shotgun pellets have some travel time.
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Aug 6, 2020 20:07
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Groovelord Neato posted:I bought this and am very much digging it but man I would love a "proper" game with this art style. Not shooters, but a few games spring to mind: Hylics 1/2 (2 linked here) - Psychedelic claymation with surf-rock music Stramium Immortaly - Biomechanical pixel art side-scroller Goblet Grotto - Super old and completely bizarre frog meat/goblet-em-up All Of Our Friends Are Dead - Another super old but disconcerting horror side-scroller Songbearer fucked around with this message at 20:22 on Aug 6, 2020 |
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Aug 6, 2020 20:07
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Thyrork posted:https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?noseen=0&threadid=3420790&pagenumber=1663&perpage=40#post496172172 Well I can't speak for what that something is, I feel like Quake is the best aged 3D shooter of the 90s because it is an extension of Doom but in full 3D. And because of the limitations the levels are pretty bite sized so Quake is a game that never wastes your time. Try playing with the Copper mod that fixes a few of the weirder issues and may make the game feel better to play.
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Aug 6, 2020 20:14
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Slasher's Keep has been on my wishlist for a while and that looks like a comic book. Void Bastards is ok. ZPC is probably only good if you have a KMFDM or Marathon fetish or have taken a lot of mushrooms in the last 20 minutes. Maybe Tower of Guns but that's kind of moving into cell shading and not sprites.
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Aug 6, 2020 20:21
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Songbearer posted:Not shooters, but a few games spring to mind: Thanks! Love the Hylics hadn't heard of Staidmium or Grotto.
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Aug 6, 2020 20:57
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I really suck at Quake even on normal. I think I'll come back to it later. Just finishing the first episode and getting a good ways into the second shows me why it's a classic though. I can imagine mappers really putting people to the test with these mechanics. EDIT: Tried Dusk for a few levels and I already feel like Quake is much better. I’ll definitely go back to it to complete episode two at least. I wish they’d just port Quake to modern consoles. I really want to play it on Switch but don’t want to hack it due to all the online games I play. 
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Aug 6, 2020 21:08
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Songbearer posted:Crossposting from STEAM thread because it seems right up you guys's's alley: The fact they said it reminded them of Pencil Whipped made this an instant buy for me.
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Aug 6, 2020 21:16
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So what's the best classic style online arena shooter to play these days that has the biggest playbase?
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Aug 6, 2020 23:58
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SeANMcBAY posted:
Dawg you didn't even get to the good poo poo yet and that's saying a lot because the whole game is good. I feel like I can't say anything without spoiling it but you should keep going.
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Aug 7, 2020 00:06
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caleb posted:Dawg you didn't even get to the good poo poo yet and that's saying a lot because the whole game is good. I bounced off Dusk the first time I played it and didn't finish the first episode, but it gets much better and much weirder as it goes. Its later levels definitely nail the 'place you shouldn't be in' vibe that the better Quake levels have.
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Aug 7, 2020 00:20
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caleb posted:Dawg you didn't even get to the good poo poo yet and that's saying a lot because the whole game is good. Well it’s getting a release on Switch so I’ll probably give it another try there as a controller baby.  I do like the beginning. Reminds me of Redneck Rampage a little bit. SeANMcBAY fucked around with this message at 00:26 on Aug 7, 2020 |
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Aug 7, 2020 00:24
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It goes from "Cool. This is kind of like Blood." to "We should not give people on peyote access to Trenchbroom." pretty quick. And I'm not saying that is a bad thing at all.
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Aug 7, 2020 00:26
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Aug 7, 2020 00:36
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I’ll spoil dusk and say it has some legitimate atmospheric horror levels but then the next level is a big joke machine like you’re playing duke3d.
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Aug 7, 2020 00:38
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SeANMcBAY posted:Well it’s getting a release on Switch so I’ll probably give it another try there as a controller baby. Given the New Blood motto of SOON I would just play it now and not wait since homeboy is also working on Gloomwood and it took like a year for the Dusk SDK to come out. There is nothing wrong with using a controller, it's just not my style and Quakeworld pretty much solidified wasd so it's weird to me seeing someone use one in that context.
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Aug 7, 2020 00:44
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Prophet of Nixon posted:I bounced off Dusk the first time I played it and didn't finish the first episode, but it gets much better and much weirder as it goes. Its later levels definitely nail the 'place you shouldn't be in' vibe that the better Quake levels have. DUSK's first episode is only good in retrospect because it lowers your expectations so much that when the level design ball gets rolling from Episode 2 onwards your head gets blown off your shoulders Ep1 is better on replay for that reason alone
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Aug 7, 2020 01:13
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I dunno Episode 1 got my hooked. It's only up from there yeah.
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Aug 7, 2020 01:22
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Dusk was fun but I didn't find the levels to be particularly mind-blowing, but also I did play it right after amid evil so...
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Aug 7, 2020 01:29
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SeANMcBAY posted:So what's the best classic style online arena shooter to play these days that has the biggest playbase? Probably still Quake Live, but eggmania should be soon with Diabotical in the midst of beta stress tests.
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Aug 7, 2020 01:32
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caleb posted:Given the New Blood motto of SOON I would just play it now and not wait since homeboy is also working on Gloomwood and it took like a year for the Dusk SDK to come out. There is nothing wrong with using a controller, it's just not my style and Quakeworld pretty much solidified wasd so it's weird to me seeing someone use one in that context. Dillon Rogers is making Gloomwood and has admitted the demo is literally everything he’s made. Sysyzydysyzhdmanski who did Dusk is kind of all over the place. He shelved a horror project, teased a Condemned like hobo horror puncher, and is finishing up Dread X 2 where he has a horror take on those lovely deer hunter games from the 90s.
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Aug 7, 2020 01:35
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site posted:Dusk was fun but I didn't find the levels to be particularly mind-blowing, but also I did play it right after amid evil so... AMID EVIL is definitely Real Fuckin' Gorgeous but I think DUSK's more mundane settings really makes the stand out levels when things go balls-to-the-walls crazy really pop out
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Aug 7, 2020 01:47
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Jehde posted:Probably still Quake Live, but eggmania should be soon with Diabotical in the midst of beta stress tests. Why not Quake Champions? I figured it would have more players since it’s free. EDIT: Played a few more levels of Dusk and yeah, it’s good. It’s confirmed a purchase from me when it comes out on Switch. SeANMcBAY fucked around with this message at 06:22 on Aug 7, 2020 |
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Aug 7, 2020 02:23
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al-azad posted:Sysyzydysyzhdmanski I don't know if this is kind of racist against Polish people but it made me laugh super hard as someone who has a last name that is basically Greek gibberish.
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Aug 7, 2020 02:54
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There’s a Nightdive remaster of Terra Nova right? How is it? I didn’t get to play it back in the day, does it still hold up?
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Aug 7, 2020 06:52
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chaosapiant posted:There’s a Nightdive remaster of Terra Nova right? How is it? I didn’t get to play it back in the day, does it still hold up? There isn't sadly, but the original holds up great imo. Really fun game
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Aug 7, 2020 08:26
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Yeah, the Night Dive release of Terra Nova is just the original release all nicely setup with DOSbox. https://twitter.com/Batandy_/status/1291605258234482690
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Aug 7, 2020 08:53
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SeANMcBAY posted:Why not Quake Champions? I figured it would have more players since it’s free. Quake Champions definitely has an active player base, however it's only free if you only use the quakeguy Ranger character. (Unless you play the game at any time during QuakeCon this weekend!  )You did ask for a classic arena shooter, and I personally feel the hero shooter aspects of Quake Champions disqualifies it from being an arena game done specifically in a classic way. It's surely a modernization of Quake, and not a bad one either, that I actually like to play and watch sometimes. But yeah for scratching the purely classic arena itch, I'm looking forward to Diabotical.
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It's not a retro FPS by any stretch, but figured this is probably still the best place to ask; what's the best mode to play Metro 2033 in? It's original survival mode or the remixed version in Redux? I've tried playing it a couple of times and bounced off of it, but still keep seeing praise from non-idiots so figure I should give it more of a chance.
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Aug 7, 2020 12:20
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caleb posted:I don't know if this is kind of racist against Polish people but it made me laugh super hard as someone who has a last name that is basically Greek gibberish. Gotta power through autocorrect in a hurry otherwise I get David say a skinny
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Aug 7, 2020 12:49
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Songbearer posted:AMID EVIL is definitely Real Fuckin' Gorgeous but I think DUSK's more mundane settings really makes the stand out levels when things go balls-to-the-walls crazy really pop out Also DUSK has much better level design.
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Aug 7, 2020 13:01
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The Kins posted:From the "dead game walking" files... Thanks for both! Gonna play a QC game (it's been months since last) to grab everything. Songbearer posted:Crossposting from STEAM thread because it seems right up you guys's's alley: For that price I'll take a look, thanks for the heads up!
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Experiencing Prey (2006) for the first time, and I don't know what I was expecting but it wasn't Art Bell. Loving the way the level design fucks around with space and the cool weapon set. Not loving the full-on headfirst dive into magical Native American tropes or graphic child murder.
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