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https://mobile.twitter.com/chrisweiss_175/status/1290971984613040132Hazo posted:Dems want to give money to people to prevent them from literally starving in the streets. Republicans don't care because of their bullshit "lazy poors should bootstraps" mentality. These positions are very well known. How exactly do the Repubs see themselves coming out as looking good on this one (except to their most hardcore smoothbrained death cult members)? Because they know the media will (and already has) fallen into the endless pattern of depicting both sides as equally bad. Making a judgement call would be unprofessional, so the entire media class is just a bunch of gullible rubes
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:Covid stimulus bill is dead So if i understand this right: CARES act: 600$ per week per person? Now: Rs: Cut it to 200$ a week per person. Ds: No, that's a joke. Rs: Aight, then they get nothing. Why the gently caress is this Sherman joke playing the "both sides" game here?
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Mithaldu posted:So if i understand this right: The Glumslinger posted:Because they know the media will (and already has) fallen into the endless pattern of depicting both sides as equally bad. Making a judgement call would be unprofessional, so the entire media class is just a bunch of gullible rubes 
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Aug 7, 2020 17:12
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Hazo posted:How exactly do the Repubs see themselves coming out as looking good on this one (except to their most hardcore smoothbrained death cult members)? you only need to appeal to the class that has the most power, and that is currently the wealthy who wouldn't benefit at all from the stimulus, save for the savvy ones who plan on exploiting the small business loans
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Aug 7, 2020 17:17
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not totally dead yet, according to the same guy: https://twitter.com/JakeSherman/status/1291759382099894273?s=20
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Aug 7, 2020 17:22
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The Glumslinger posted:Because they know the media will (and already has) fallen into the endless pattern of depicting both sides as equally bad. Making a judgement call would be unprofessional, so the entire media class is just a bunch of gullible rubes Republicans I know blame it entirely on Democrats "playing political games" that delays everything because they keep adding tons of unrelated things to any presented bill. I haven't paid enough attention to the actual bills to know what exactly has happened to even debate this.
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Aug 7, 2020 17:22
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Antiquated Pants posted:Republicans I know blame it entirely on Democrats "playing political games" that delays everything because they keep adding tons of unrelated things to any presented bill. I haven't paid enough attention to the actual bills to know what exactly has happened to even debate this. Which is weird because the number one thing I've seen from Republican lawmakers is "if we give the poor too much money* they wont want to go back to work!" *a survivable wage
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Aug 7, 2020 17:25
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FoolyCharged posted:Which is weird because the number one thing I've seen from Republican lawmakers is "if we give the poor too much money* they wont want to go back to work!" Wait, are you suggesting the  is arguing something in bad faith?
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Aug 7, 2020 17:28
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So, my german federal home state of Mecklenburg-Vorpommen (1.6 mio people), which had 16 covid cases from june 19 to july 17, now had 101 cases in the past two weeks. 11% of its total cases (910) happened in the past two weeks. School opening is going fine.  thanks for confirming that at least i didn't get it wrong
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Aug 7, 2020 17:34
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FoolyCharged posted:Which is weird because the number one thing I've seen from Republican lawmakers is "if we give the poor too much money* they wont want to go back to work!" To be fair, that conversation started with him saying "everything you've ever been told is a lie," then went on to complain that while "black lives matter" is important any sign saying "Black Lives Matter" is only in support of the BLM organization which is Marxist and bad. ...This was in reference to this sign in my neighbor's yard:  There's really no point in even trying to respond when someone thinks that way.
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Aug 7, 2020 17:35
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That is a complete and willful misinterpretation of the advertising campaign. Buccees trades heavily on having pristine, sparkling bathrooms, so they have joke signs about holding it and risking wetting your pants until you can get to Buccees, where they also have pretty good BBQ. That said, every time I've driven past a Buccees since this started, it has been packed like usual, so there are definitely plenty of people risking it for their food (which is pretty drat delicious but not, "risk rotting my lungs" delicious.)
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Aug 7, 2020 17:44
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Antiquated Pants posted:
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Mithaldu posted:So if i understand this right: Because, people don't pay attention and Mitch McConnell can go on TV and say that they would have passed giving people money if it wasn't for mean old Nancy Pelosi
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Aug 7, 2020 17:49
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Schadenboner posted:I mean, all that seems p.reasonable to me? But the sign looks twee, therefore it's bad
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Aug 7, 2020 17:53
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The Glumslinger posted:But the sign looks twee, therefore it's bad *Hides folder of Wes Anderson movies into he Porn folder* I AGREE! 
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Aug 7, 2020 17:55
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Puppy Galaxy posted:not totally dead yet, according to the same guy: Is she gonna do some performative #RESIST stuff and then leave?
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Aug 7, 2020 17:59
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"Dozens" of Finns exposed to COVID-19 this week. How, you ask? Why, a corporate retreat at a ferry to Estonia and back! 81 people attended the corporate event, "two or three of them" were already sick and showing symptoms during the event, but decided to go ahead anyway. Seriously, these motherfuckers should be going to jail. Literally.
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Aug 7, 2020 18:01
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Der Shovel posted:"Dozens" of Finns exposed to COVID-19 this week. How, you ask? Why, a corporate retreat at a ferry to Estonia and back! 81 people attended the corporate event, "two or three of them" were already sick and showing symptoms during the event, but decided to go ahead anyway.
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Aug 7, 2020 18:02
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Schadenboner posted:I mean, all that seems p.reasonable to me? those signs bother me because it's a bunch of important things boiled down to slogans and just sort of haphazardly listed, and also the line about water being important is kind of weird. but they're fine overall and I'll take them over Trump signs or whatever
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Aug 7, 2020 18:04
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Puppy Galaxy posted:those signs bother me because it's a bunch of important things boiled down to slogans and just sort of haphazardly listed, and also the line about water being important is kind of weird. but they're fine overall and I'll take them over Trump signs or whatever How much narrative can you put on a yard sign though?
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Aug 7, 2020 18:16
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Also desertification and loss of aquifer sustainability is going to be a major concern as GACC continues (at an increasing rate)?
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Der Shovel posted:"Dozens" of Finns exposed to COVID-19 this week. How, you ask? Why, a corporate retreat at a ferry to Estonia and back! 81 people attended the corporate event, "two or three of them" were already sick and showing symptoms during the event, but decided to go ahead anyway. If any are young enough to still be reservists, could the military go after them for anything? Degrading national readiness or something like that? "Okay, we made sure you were treated and quarantined. Now we do two weeks of PT all day to make sure you can still serve. Sisu, motherfuckers."
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Aug 7, 2020 18:35
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Mithaldu posted:So, my german federal home state of Mecklenburg-Vorpommen (1.6 mio people), which had 16 covid cases from june 19 to july 17, now had 101 cases in the past two weeks. 11% of its total cases (910) happened in the past two weeks. Didn't you guys have something like 15,000 anti mask people all marching last weekend too? You're next to explode for sure.
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Aug 7, 2020 18:51
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Puppy Galaxy posted:those signs bother me because it's a bunch of important things boiled down to slogans and just sort of haphazardly listed, and also the line about water being important is kind of weird. but they're fine overall and I'll take them over Trump signs or whatever If anything, I live in a fairly conservative area and putting that sign in your yard is pretty brave. The person complaining about it is the landlord...I have a Bernie sign in my window still, we are in a duplex and share the front yard. 
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Lots of danes and germans mingling with italians on the French riviera atm.
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EL BROMANCE posted:Didn't you guys have something like 15,000 anti mask people all marching last weekend too? You're next to explode for sure. Steadily and on track.  Also, the relief bill is going "good". https://twitter.com/JakeSherman/status/1291785667408691202https://twitter.com/JakeSherman/status/1291788013283020803https://twitter.com/Phil_Mattingly/status/1291771637256327174
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The first tweet has a breakdown of issues between dems and reps, and: Short summary: There's a bunch of expenditures where D and R agree. Then there's a whole bunch of expenditures that would help people, and the Ds are saying "let's help people" and the Rs are saying "let's gently caress up people".
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https://apnews.com/5011af5bc80b3c584514551c1227b993 the largest school district in the country, what could go wrong
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I'm honestly curious how the additional unemployment money has become such a big issues during this crisis, yet its never really been a thing before. I remember a lot of back and forth between the parties during the great recession about the extension of unemployment benefits, but never additional money on top of regular benefits. And that was with Democrats in the white house. Why is it seen as essential now, but not even considered in past economic crises? Or for that matter during times that aren't a crisis? Is just the nature of this crises with certain sectors being unable to work even if they wanted to?
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these were formerly employed tax-paying people who are now unemployed and due to the cannibalization of some industries have little to no chance of re-employment without training and/or education, rather than X
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Ranidas posted:I'm honestly curious how the additional unemployment money has become such a big issues during this crisis, yet its never really been a thing before. I remember a lot of back and forth between the parties during the great recession about the extension of unemployment benefits, but never additional money on top of regular benefits. And that was with Democrats in the white house. Why is it seen as essential now, but not even considered in past economic crises? Or for that matter during times that aren't a crisis? Is just the nature of this crises with certain sectors being unable to work even if they wanted to? Well, the 08 recession was way worse than it should have been because the government intervention was way too small, so Dem leadership is trying to avoid that this time.
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The dems would rather negotiations fall apart so they could use the Rs refusing to meet their numbers as the story than getting something out of it for people. Never actually think the dems care more about people than their own publicity.
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Also wasn't the worst month of '08 new claims less than any individual week now?
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Ranidas posted:I'm honestly curious how the additional unemployment money has become such a big issues during this crisis, yet its never really been a thing before. I remember a lot of back and forth between the parties during the great recession about the extension of unemployment benefits, but never additional money on top of regular benefits. And that was with Democrats in the white house. Why is it seen as essential now, but not even considered in past economic crises? Or for that matter during times that aren't a crisis? Is just the nature of this crises with certain sectors being unable to work even if they wanted to? Because there is a large swath of people who believe that you you are not working, you should just die, HTH.
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EL BROMANCE posted:The dems would rather negotiations fall apart so they could use the Rs refusing to meet their numbers as the story than getting something out of it for people. Never actually think the dems care more about people than their own publicity. Agreed that the dems are not much better than the gop, but are you saying the dems should cave and give in just to get anything? I’d like to see them holdout and get people more. Put pressure on the gop to give people what they need, not take whatever scraps they can get
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Iron Crowned posted:Because there is a large swath of people who believe that you you are not working, you should just die, HTH. Additionally, this belief is not modified by the fact that (for the overwhelming majority) those people worked until recently and would gladly do so again if the loving economy wasn't shut down (and v.likely to get worse before it gets better) and the plague stalking the land (and v.likely to get worse before it gets better). Schadenboner fucked around with this message at 20:26 on Aug 7, 2020 |
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Ranidas posted:I'm honestly curious how the additional unemployment money has become such a big issues during this crisis, yet its never really been a thing before. I remember a lot of back and forth between the parties during the great recession about the extension of unemployment benefits, but never additional money on top of regular benefits. And that was with Democrats in the white house. Why is it seen as essential now, but not even considered in past economic crises? Or for that matter during times that aren't a crisis? Is just the nature of this crises with certain sectors being unable to work even if they wanted to? So one reason I've heard (and the only one that really makes sense) is that under normal circumstances, unemployment benefits are kept trim to "encourage the recipient to return to the workforce". Ideally -- and even in the 08 recession -- they're intended to just be a stop-gap and if everything goes well the recipient is back at a job reasonably quickly because they know full well they can't survive more than a couple weeks on what they receive. (Whether this sort of encouragement is monstrous but effective, or simply monstrous is left as an exercise for the american voter.) However, the CARES act got signed in an environment where the govt absolutely did not want to encourage people to go back to work. Since they didn't want people to return to work they bumped up the coverage so that people wouldn't immediately go bankrupt. Iron Crowned posted:Because there is a large swath of people who believe that you you are not working, you should just die, HTH. ...or just that, yeah The Strangest Finch fucked around with this message at 20:27 on Aug 7, 2020 |
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Schadenboner posted:Additionally, this belief is not modified by the fact that (for the overwhelming majority) those people worked until recently and would gladly do so again if the loving economy wasn't shut down (and v.likely to get worse before it gets better). Yeah, that's when they say something stupid like "Amazon/the grocery store/Taco Bell is hiring!" as if that is somehow an acceptable replacement.
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Iron Crowned posted:Yeah, that's when they say something stupid like "Amazon/the grocery store/Taco Bell is hiring!" as if that is somehow an acceptable replacement. Because HR is totes known for their sympathetic and in-depth review of resumes, ammirite? ...Hmm, the job posting is for a Civil Engineer but you're currently bagging groceries?
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