Who will you vote for in 2020? This poll is closed. |
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Biden |
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425 | 18.06% |
Trump |
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105 | 4.46% |
whoever the Green Party runs |
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307 | 13.05% |
GOOGLE RON PAUL |
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151 | 6.42% |
Bernie Sanders |
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346 | 14.70% |
Stalin |
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246 | 10.45% |
Satan |
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300 | 12.75% |
Nobody |
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202 | 8.58% |
Jess Scarane |
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110 | 4.67% |
mystery man Brian Carroll of the American Solidarity Party |
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61 | 2.59% |
Dick Nixon |
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100 | 4.25% |
Total: | 2089 votes |
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The lesson from this primary and election as a whole (especially if Biden ends up winning) is that people need to break out of the online leftist Twitter bubble. Basically everything that seized the attention of the bubble had no real world relevance - all the bullshit about Warren and Buttigieg was just in the imaginations of the terminally online.
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# ? Jun 10, 2024 14:36 |
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shrike82 posted:The lesson from this primary and election as a whole (especially if Biden ends up winning) is that people need to break out of the online leftist Twitter bubble. Basically everything that seized the attention of the bubble had no real world relevance - all the bullshit about Warren and Buttigieg was just in the imaginations of the terminally online. I mean, I'm pretty sure Buttigieg systematically purging all the black people he could from positions of power in South Bend was a factor in his lack of black support in the primaries as well as being a reason people here hate him and why he's not going to be elected to any future positions of power he acquires, even if the DNC is going to keep shoving his racist rear end wherever they can for decades to come.
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shrike82 posted:People arguing that the fix was in for Sanders as a radical that needed to be taken down apparently haven't been following how he's been behaving as a Biden surrogate. what does that have to do with anything?
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Rimusutera posted:Its the height of condescension to tell the majority of people alienated by the Democratic party's political decisions that they're in fact obligated to vote for the Dems for whatever reason, shifting away the onus of actually putting forward good candidates. Yeah. Also voting for a Biden/Harris ticket endorsed by Kissenger with people like Navarro on staff isn't a vote against fascism.
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Sentiment already expressed but these are punchier and better-written. https://twitter.com/briebriejoy/status/1293050641791758336 https://twitter.com/briebriejoy/status/1293051899336372225 https://twitter.com/bombsfall/status/1293214048000118785 https://twitter.com/bombsfall/status/1293214506542301187
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shrike82 posted:The lesson from this primary and election as a whole (especially if Biden ends up winning) is that people need to break out of the online leftist Twitter bubble. Basically everything that seized the attention of the bubble had no real world relevance - all the bullshit about Warren and Buttigieg was just in the imaginations of the terminally online. How many pyramid schemes are you currently a part of? e: sorry I meant "upward-momentum entrepreneurial opportunities" (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Rainbow Knight posted:what does that have to do with anything? It's shrike82, they're trolling and don't read replies (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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the_steve posted:If Kopmala isn't the VP pick, I will legit be surprised. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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eggyolk posted:Biden Harris isn't gonna set the world on fire, but considering how much everything has been burning I'm okay with that. Honestly it'll be more interesting to see how a Biden cabinet gets filled out to reverse the damage and define how much influence Bernie actually exerted. Im here from 2021 to tell you the answer is nothing Jamie Dimon will be Treasury Secretary Mark Evers will be retained as Defense Secretary. Devos will be replaced by Cory Booker, who used to work with her Like the game now is to guess how many Republicans are gonna be in Bidens cabinet. I'm gonna go ahead and say 3
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The Artificial Kid posted:Sorry to dredge back many pages, but I've just got up and reading back through what people are saying. so basically what you are saying is liberals and republicans are going to ensure that nothing good ever happens? When it comes to Kamala: Looks like wall street wins at the cost of poor people,,,again.
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Shageletic posted:
Imagine how many will be in the cabinet if he loses!
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joepinetree posted:his Latino outreach person being proudly linked to the Contras, his Asian American outreach person being proudly linked to Hindu nationalist paramilitary
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Timeless Appeal posted:What's the Contra thing? Biden's main leads of Lation outreach are Cristobal Alex who is like 36 with good grassroots bonafides and Caesar Chavez's granddaughter. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ana_Navarro presumably
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:Imagine how many will be in the cabinet if he loses! What do we even say anymore? This is the entire thread. One group of sane people with pattern recognition understanding that when the republicans commit N atrocities, the dems feel free to commit exactly N - 1 atrocities, so maybe we should stop loving enabling them, and one group that doesn't and never, ever will.
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Ah okay. To clarify, she's not part of Biden's campaign even though she's an active supporter and drumming up more rightwing Latino support for Biden. Which I know seems like splitting hairs, but his actual Latino outreach person is a Civil Rights lawyer and grassroots organizer. And mentioning her with Jani actively obscures that.
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Timeless Appeal posted:What's the Contra thing? Biden's main leads of Lation outreach are Cristobal Alex who is like 36 with good grassroots bonafides and Caesar Chavez's granddaughter. Biden campaign had Ana Navarro headline an event for them. She boasts about her dad being a Contra and all the brave raping he did in defense of capitalism. You can write off reaching out to the Never Trumpers as the enemy of my enemy is my friend, but from a left perspective it is very disconcerting how easily and comfortably the Dems are tapping Republicans for outreach. Makes you wonder what they're promising them behind the scenes, because lol if you think a single Republican breathing today actually cares about the spirit of the nation or whatever other nonsense they ramble about while they enjoy their massive Trump tax cuts.
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Can I point out it would have been much smarter to give Marianne Williamson and Andrew Yang speaking spots at the DNC than John Kasich if you're seeking to expand the party. I guess there weren't enough Lich's on the schedule already.
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:Imagine how many will be in the cabinet if he loses! what an own my god reeling right now irl
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Glumwheels posted:I agree and this is how I feel about the position we’re in https://mobile.twitter.com/ResistWisely/status/1293536121998254080 This is an excellent set of tweets but not for the reasons their authors intended.
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Glumwheels posted:I agree and this is how I feel about the position we’re in Biden is a literal fascist though. Go ahead and check Eco’s 14 characteristics of Ur-Fascism and you’ll find maybe 1 that doesn’t describe him or his campaign.
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shrike82 posted:The lesson from this primary and election as a whole (especially if Biden ends up winning) is that people need to break out of the online leftist Twitter bubble. Basically everything that seized the attention of the bubble had no real world relevance - all the bullshit about Warren and Buttigieg was just in the imaginations of the terminally online. I think more broadly, people need to get off the internet and go outside. Unfortunately for Americans that isn't really an option right now.
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DynamicSloth posted:Can I point out it would have been much smarter to give Marianne Williamson and Andrew Yang speaking spots at the DNC than John Kasich if you're seeking to expand the party. I guess there weren't enough Lich's on the schedule already.
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Code Jockey posted:Why does it never occur to these people, that if they a) think that Trump must be stopped at all costs, b) think the Dem candidate sucks, and in most cases c) believe, for whatever reason, that there are only two parties to choose from, not to push back against the Democrat leadership and make them choose someone else? The thing is that some liberals were preemptively making noises about how they'd "likely be disappointed" by Biden's pick but it's "important to rally around Biden's pick", before they had any idea who he had even chosen. I'm convinced that a lot of the scolding is not even directed at recalcitrant leftists (like us) so much but at themselves. That is to say, I think they're trying to convince themselves that Biden is good and will provide the change we need. I've always said that if Biden-Harris being a great ticket were obvious, there'd be no need for the finger wagging about the "dang Cheeto in the White House".
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F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:The thing is that some liberals were preemptively making noises about how they'd "likely be disappointed" by Biden's pick but it's "important to rally around Biden's pick", before they had any idea who he had even chosen. I'm convinced that a lot of the scolding is not even directed at recalcitrant leftists (like us) so much but at themselves. That is to say, I think they're trying to convince themselves that Biden is good and will provide the change we need. I've always said that if Biden-Harris being a great ticket were obvious, there'd be no need for the finger wagging about the "dang Cheeto in the White House". A big theme with liberals has been wild projection pretty much the entire year. They've been the most volatile out of everyone, including leftists and full on MAGA, from start to finish, and sometimes you can almost visibly see the contradictions tearing them apart before they beat those treacherous thoughts back down. I'm sure by November some will win the victory over themselves and love Joe Biden. (And likely just in time to see him lose and have it all be for naught)
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America is built on white supremacy and colonialism, fascism has always been here. Just because it hadn't hit her gentrified white person approved neighborhood in California yet doesn't change that. Voting for Biden wont make it go away, it will do the exact opposite.
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Better Things Are Not Possible
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Rainbow Knight posted:Better Things Are Not Possible There's always more and it's always worse
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go outside and take in the world as it is, but, uh not like those people protesting, those are violent anarchists Joe Biden promises to bring to justice
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its insane to me that anyone has ever taken this guy seriously
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shrike82 posted:The lesson from this primary and election as a whole (especially if Biden ends up winning) is that people need to break out of the online leftist Twitter bubble. Basically everything that seized the attention of the bubble had no real world relevance - all the bullshit about Warren and Buttigieg was just in the imaginations of the terminally online. FlamingLiberal posted:The DNC believes they can get moderate Republicans onboard. This has been their strategy since the 90s KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD fucked around with this message at 16:40 on Aug 12, 2020 |
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The postal service is officially being sabotaged. It's probably best to assume that postal votes might as well go straight in an incinerator. At best, the warehouse from Indiana Jones.
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Hooooly poo poo. https://twitter.com/queeninyeiiow/status/1293565696941719552?s=21
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Ghost Leviathan posted:The postal service is officially being sabotaged. It's probably best to assume that postal votes might as well go straight in an incinerator. At best, the warehouse from Indiana Jones. But do we get a refrigerator that can survive a nuclear blast, out of it?
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KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:why a sustained media campaign against trump, in support of the dem candidate, was unsuccessful in 2016 (and probably 2020) When did this happen? I recall them horseracing it the whole way
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FlamingLiberal posted:Hooooly poo poo. lmao it never ceases to amuse me when people forget to clean up after themselves, though anymore I just assume people are screenshotting everything as soon as it's posted anyway
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Timeless Appeal posted:What's the Contra thing? Biden's main leads of Lation outreach are Cristobal Alex who is like 36 with good grassroots bonafides and Caesar Chavez's granddaughter. Sure, she is not the lead outreach person, just someone that the campaign tapped to do Latino outreach occasionally. Doesn't change much though. And if you look at his team for Latin America, it doesn't get much better. People like Juan Gonzalez of the Cohen group, who not too long ago was praising Trump's approach to Venezuela and mourning the retirement of Ros-Lehtinen.
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Harold Fjord posted:When did this happen? I recall them horseracing it the whole way (which is still happening)
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FlamingLiberal posted:Hooooly poo poo. I've given this guy the benefit of the doubt previously, there was always some plausible deniability or the possibility he was just stupid, but I was being way too generous. Complete and total grifter.
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Speaking of Latin America, looking forward to 4-8 more years of my Cuban family struggling while it gets harder and harder to send them what they need, but what really matters is that we're taking a stand for Democracy in Venezuela and sanctioning the Cuban government for being their allies, that'll show 'em.
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# ? Jun 10, 2024 14:36 |
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I'd like to congratulate the Democratic Party on managing to lose against Donald Trump again.
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