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The whole samurai transition is really crazy to think about now. The government pushed them to turn to business and stuff instead, so these guys went from carrying a sword in public and being allowed to execute people they thought disrespected them to making playing cards.
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Aphrodite posted:The whole samurai transition is really crazy to think about now. And then butchering civilians in various creative ways from 1931-1945.
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Not so much "just figured out" as "just learned"... Saturday Night Fever is not a campy, fun romp about disco life in the 70's. Despite being 46 years old, I'd never seen it before (maybe bits and pieces on TV). I was house/pet-sitting for someone recently and they had it in their DVD collection. "This should be fun!" I think and pop it in. Okay, was not expecting so many f-bombs being dropped. Oof, and n-bombs and the slur for Latinx that rhymes with "quick". How did they ever show this on TV? ...Dang, they're just straight up talking about teens doing speed and stuff. Ah, well, it was the 70's. Still, this sure isn't Grease. ...Did John Travolta just call that woman a c***? Repeatedly?   ...OK, I just watched 3 rape scenes and a suicide THIS IS NOT A CAMPY FUN ROMPAnd then the ending is just  If you're as curious as to WTF as I was: the 1977 movie was a hit, and the soundtrack sold like mad. Hollywood said "poo poo, we're losing a ton of market having this gritty R-rated film with a gangbusters soundtrack that teens can't go to see. We'll re-cut it so it gets a PG rating and rake in that sweet, sweet teen money." Which they did. They already had some scenes shot differently in anticipation of getting it on TV eventually, so they spliced those in, cut the really violent/graphic stuff, and re-released it in theaters. HBO would apparently show the PG version during the day, but the R-rated version in the wee hours. Which explains how it got on TV, and why I had no freaking idea how dark and brutal the "cheesy movie about disco" was.
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Milo and POTUS posted:They're like the best animals I'd like to see a sea otter v. capybara chill-off. River otters were always my favourite at the game preserve as a kid. Something I just learned that shocked me: my wife doesn't like the Golden Girls.
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Beachcomber posted:Something I just learned that shocked me: my wife doesn't like the Golden Girls. A lot of actors don't like their own work.
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Beachcomber posted:I'd like to see a sea otter v. capybara chill-off Capybaras rape baby seals to death less often, so they win.
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JacquelineDempsey posted:Not so much "just figured out" as "just learned"... I had this exact experience at a sleepover with my friends when we were... 15? Went in expecting a fun singalong disco romp, and yeah, it is not fun singalong disco romp 
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Wow. I never knew. I thought the movie was just about some John Travolta-played meathead who really loved dancing. What you're saying makes sense, though, you need to get to those two hours somehow. I never watched the movie either, since I don't particularly like disco music. Always had a soft spot for Grease is the Word, though, that song is just smooth: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gqiyqu1GVE e: in the spirit of the thread, as a teenager I used to think they said 'world' instead of 'word' Phlegmish has a new favorite as of 13:49 on Aug 11, 2020 |
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Aug 11, 2020 13:46
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I’ve never bothered seeing Saturday Night Fever because I thought it was going to be some kind of dumb insubstantial dance movie. I’ll have to check it out and see how many locations I recognize from when I lived in Bay Ridge.
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Aug 11, 2020 13:57
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JacquelineDempsey posted:THIS IS NOT A CAMPY FUN ROMP I've never seen it either for whatever reason but you've just sold me on it
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Ugly In The Morning posted:I’ve never bothered seeing Saturday Night Fever because I thought it was going to be some kind of dumb insubstantial dance movie. I’ll have to check it out and see how many locations I recognize from when I lived in Bay Ridge. It's a really good glimpse at the kind of actor Travolta *could* have been if Scientology hadn't melted his brain. It's also problematic for reasons outlined above (but it's also of its time). Soundtrack slaps, though.
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The Breakfast Sampler posted:I've never seen it either for whatever reason but you've just sold me on it It really is an interesting movie, and I'm glad to have seen it in full finally. In fact, while doing my little bit of research on it, I learned that it was one of Gene Siskel's favorite movies of all time; Roger Ebert said Gene had watched it at least 17 times. He even bought the iconic white suit at an auction. The DVD version we watched was the director's cut, which includes all the dark/graphic bits plus some extra scenes that were shot but not in the R-rated theatrical release. They used those scenes to pad out the PG version. So it's basically as complete a version you'll see. It definitely has some funny moments ("you hit my hair!", and when Tony asks a woman he's about to bang "you got one of those, uh, IOU's?"), but it's not goofy popcorn sing-along fun like Grease. Ugly In The Morning posted:I’ve never bothered seeing Saturday Night Fever because I thought it was going to be some kind of dumb insubstantial dance movie. I’ll have to check it out and see how many locations I recognize from when I lived in Bay Ridge. We paused the movie to go outside for a cigarette right after a scene where Travolta keeps saying "coffee" in the thickest accent ever. CAAAAWWWffee. "You're loving this, aren't you?" my husband asks. I'm from Lawn Guyland, and even though I haven't lived there for 20 years, you betta bet I was fuckin' lovin' it and slipped back into my old accent for the rest of the night.
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Did you all also go into watching Taxi Driver thinking it would have Danny DeVito and Judd Hirsch cracking wise with DeNiro?
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Ferrule posted:Did you all also go into watching Taxi Driver thinking it would have Danny DeVito and Judd Hirsch cracking wise with DeNiro? Taxi Driver's content is well known. Saturday Night Fever's legacy is just "the disco movie with the Bee Gees soundtrack."
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Henchman of Santa posted:Taxi Driver's content is well known. Saturday Night Fever's legacy is just "the disco movie with the Bee Gees soundtrack." This is completely bizarre to me because my understanding of Saturday Night Fever has always been "that ultraviolent disco-themed movie with John Travolta" (I've never watched it) and I thought that was common knowledge. I don't think you can outright state what its legacy is like that.
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I think it’s fair to say ‘a large percentage of the population knows the movie as the fun BeeGees soundtrack where Travolta dances’ even if another large percentage knows about its ultra violent nature.
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Captain Monkey posted:I think it’s fair to say ‘a large percentage of the population knows the movie as the fun BeeGees soundtrack where Travolta dances’ even if another large percentage knows about its ultra violent nature. I've seen the movie - probably twice - and I don't remember anything about it except the music.
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Aug 11, 2020 17:42
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No, someone has to be wrong.
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Yeah the cultural osmosis on Saturday Night Fever is Travolta dancing on a multi coloured floor in a white suit. It's like how Psycho is just a scene where someone gets stabbed in the shower.
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Aug 11, 2020 17:50
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Or that movie where two guys go bowling and one of them has a meltdown about milkshakes.
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All I know about Saturday Night Fever is that my dad had an 8track of the soundtrack and loved to play it when doing housework. That sure sounds like a twist abut it actually being an ultraviolent movie and I'm disappointed you guys spoiled it
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Scaramouche posted:Yeah the cultural osmosis on Saturday Night Fever is Travolta dancing on a multi coloured floor in a white suit. Yep that's all the movie is to me as I have never seen it.
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I’ve seen it once, but I don’t remember if it was the PG version or not. I don’t remember the violence and rape but I do remember the racist language. Maybe I repressed some stuff?
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What is meant by an IOU
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Milo and POTUS posted:What is meant by an IOU He means IUD but he's either a dumb greaser who didn't pay any attention in sex ed, or an American who never got any.
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Milo and POTUS posted:They had IUDs back then? They'd been around for a century. Started in the states in, like, the 50's.
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Every movie in the 70s was either a dumb campy romp or a gritty look at the sordid underbelly of modern civilization. or porn
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FreudianSlippers posted:Every movie in the 70s was either a dumb campy romp or a gritty look at the sordid underbelly of modern civilization. 
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For what it's worth I was surprised by the rape, ethnic gang violence, suicide, abortion, etc in Saturday Night Fever. I grew up in the 80's and through cultural osmosis I was only aware of John Travolta strutting down the street and dancing on an illuminated dancefloor to Bee Gees music. It was parodied in everything from the Muppets to Airplane. Similarly Fame and Flashdance were known for their musical numbers, both of those films are a little seedy. Abortion, suicide, stripping, etc.
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Aug 12, 2020 05:42
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It's weird what you forget about old movies like the rape scene in Dumb and Dumber.
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Or the rape scene in Ace Ventura 2.
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Or rape scene in the Mask.
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FreudianSlippers posted:Every movie in the 70s was either a dumb campy romp or a gritty look at the sordid underbelly of modern civilization. You should read the excellently-titled book The Stewardess is Flying the Plane! even though it only deals with American cinema in the 70s, so you can post some more ITT about 70s movies.
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MariusLecter posted:Or the rape scene in Ace Ventura 2. Or the transphobia in Ace Ventura 1.
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Jfc. I don't think I've ever done a google search with the word "rape" in it before, and I am definitely not going to again. (Don't check it out for yourself. Seriously.)
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Hipster_Doofus posted:Jfc. I don't think I've ever done a google search with the word "rape" in it before, and I am definitely not going to again. (Don't check it out for yourself. Seriously.) They did searchery on a rape
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Inceltown posted:They did searchery on a rape 
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A very unprompted but also clever pun 
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I can't believe I just figured out Dirty Dancing and Saturday Night Fever aren't the same movie.
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