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Handsome Wife posted:She seemed not quite as bad in episode 2 as she was in episode 1, but frankly Boimler's whole sad sack tryhard routine is already wearing thin to me. At this point I like Rutherford/Tendi a lot more than Mariner/Boimler but I'm hoping that as the season goes on they can back off the One Defining Characteristic a bit for all four of them. Oh yeah, two episodes of Boimler starting out as a sad sack tryhard and learning a lesson as a result and then getting reset for the next episode is as much as I'm willing to forgive. Steward should just do Picard-as-Bullock: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IkFB6OuCXE
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The writing's good, the deep cuts are really cool, but goddamn I wish literally anyone else was animation lead.
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feedmyleg posted:Looks like CBS put the first episode up on YouTube region-free and, bravely, comments enabled. Guess they liked what they saw from fan reactions: That was pretty dire. But I'm not a big Star Trek fan so maybe I was missing a lot of jokes.
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Episode was good, I'm glad they're toning down the mile-a-minute references. The only one that was really excessive this time was the repeated mention of Jamaharon. Klingon gagh lady was pretty on-point, though. I did enjoy the way they handled the Ferengi bit, too. It seems like the writers understand that you can do blatant references without just name-dropping TNG/TOS concepts directly. The throwaway opening with the energy being was a great example - instantly recognizable to TNG fans, but used as a conceptual springboard for the show to do it's comedic take, rather than, say, the bit at the end of the first episode where Mariner literally just name-drops Troi and Gary Mitchell etc. with zero context. I agree that they need to change up the dynamic between the main characters, but I definitely saw this episode as being more comfortable in its premise than the pilot. I think it's going to settle into a solid show.
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Sexual Aluminum posted:What’s the Janeway Maneuver? Jettison the children
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multijoe posted:Comments are now turned off lol They're still enabled on my end.
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The holodeck joke was good because of course in reality people would do in inverse-kobiyashi maru and play about trying to find out just how badly you can screw up a simple scenario.
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Sexual Aluminum posted:What’s the Janeway Maneuver? Commit war crimes
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Alchenar posted:The holodeck joke was good because of course in reality people would do in inverse-kobiyashi maru and play about trying to find out just how badly you can screw up a simple scenario. This is the comment that convinced me to watch this show. It brings back memories of playing Assassin's Creed II 's Venice area and pushing civilians into the water
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Gotta admit that I was a little disappointed that they were going with the race essentialism thing with the Ferengi in TYOOL 2020, and glad of the reveal of what was really going on. Episode was fun, show is good, watching it with my 7 year old he wants to watch it again.
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feedmyleg posted:Looks like CBS put the first episode up on YouTube region-free and, bravely, comments enabled. Guess they liked what they saw from fan reactions: Lies. It's absolutely not region free. "Video not available", here.
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Not sure if they excluded certain regions or if they realized they hosed up and locked it down later, but there were tons of international folks in the comments thanking them this morning.
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Just re-watching bits of it between meetings. Loving the bridge simulator The kindergarten on deck 8 -- IT'S GONE! NONONO NOW THE PRE-K IS GONE! ALL THE SHIP'S CHILDREN HAVE BEEN EJECTED INTO SPACE! e: Bomler's research asteroid tirade got a good  out of me
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Just watched Episode 1. It was... Okay? It is very early Futurama, mixed with modern day overly frantic cartoon writing. It has a lot of potential but I'm not paying for more unless it gets better.
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I’m fine with the characters seeming one-note for a while. You need to establish a solid baseline before you start moving forward or subverting things. I’m looking forward to them bouncing off of each other in different iterations, though.
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It's already gotten better, the pilot episode was trying to cram way too much in, the 2nd episode has better pacing and isn't quite as frantic.
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I thought the A-story in the second episode was still a bit too frantic, but the B-story was pleasantly lackadaisical. Overall it felt much better because the B-story was a nice breather whenever it was cut back to.
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The B-story wasn't about Rutherford being reset to the status quo so much as reaffirming where he belonged (by way of some comic fish-out-of-water shenanigans) and establishing the slow-boil will they/won't they feelings between him and Tendi.
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I also enjoyed the multiple fake-outs. Some people mentioned in the first episode that it was unusual for Trek to show the higher-ups showing such open disdain for the newbies, so having there be multiple instances of the commanding officers and others actually being supportive of Rutherford discovering his true calling was pretty nice.
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I think the show always was going to be jammed for its first few episodes. Maybe they'll let it breathe later. I think we can forgive that for now. From a basic story writing perspective Lower Decks blows Discovery and Picard out of the water so far. Like, characters other than Boimler and Mariner are allowed to have scenes. And things happen in each episode.
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I’m really enjoying this a lot, and honestly it’s got a ton of heart in its characters already. There have been many lols. The music is really good, especially the bit during the fight simulator. The little motif at the start of the episode is so TNG era it’s perfect. Snow Cone Capone posted:I also enjoyed the multiple fake-outs. Some people mentioned in the first episode that it was unusual for Trek to show the higher-ups showing such open disdain for the newbies, so having there be multiple instances of the commanding officers and others actually being supportive of Rutherford discovering his true calling was pretty nice. This was a great bit, and showed off exactly how supportive Starfleet should be. It’s surprisingly on brand for a Trek comedy series.
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The only LDS character I dislike is Mariner, but that's because she's written to so much of a rules-breaking badass ace that she comes off as a Mary Sue more than anything.
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All Lower Decks has down so far is make me miss The Orville even more. If you’re going to do Trek parody you can at least make it feel like a genuine homage instead of just machine-gunning “boy it sure is crazy how Star Trek DOES THIS can you believe it?!” jokes in the hope that every 10th one lands. The jokes in LD so far are exactly the kind of surface level poo poo I expected from the guy behind the TNG S8 twitter.
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feedmyleg posted:Not sure if they excluded certain regions or if they realized they hosed up and locked it down later, but there were tons of international folks in the comments thanking them this morning. The latter, because I saw it and then I couldn't look at it again about an hour later.
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The_Doctor posted:Section 31 would power walk, yes. I really wanted to hate this joke but it's so true
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Count me in the Mariner is annoying, B Plot was good camp. But the best part of the season so far was the opening with the energy being.
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New thread title suggestion: Modern Star Trek Megathread: Ship destroyed. Casualties 105%. Modern Star Trek Megathread: Banana, Hot. Modern Star Trek Megathread: Give me your profit! Modern Star Trek Megathread: Try employing the Janeway Protocol. Modern Star Trek Megathread: All the ship's children have been ejected into space (this one wouldn't fit but IMO would be the most representative of the general tone of Modern Trek) Snow Cone Capone fucked around with this message at 23:12 on Aug 13, 2020 |
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It's gotta be "Banana. Hot." Mariner is just annoying because she hasn't received any come-uppance yet.
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Man, some of you are so keen to hate on LDS. I was looking up the cast on IMDb and accidentally looked at the user reviews. They’re so full of vitriol it honestly can’t be healthy. Don’t be like them. It’s not meant to be deep, it’s just jokey fun in a pre-existing universe you already know the rules to.
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The_Doctor posted:Man, some of you are so keen to hate on LDS. I was looking up the cast on IMDb and accidentally looked at the user reviews. They’re so full of vitriol it honestly can’t be healthy. Don’t be like them. It’s not meant to be deep, it’s just jokey fun in a pre-existing universe you already know the rules to. I’m just saying the jokes are extremely lazy and not very clever.
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Snow Cone Capone posted:also nice Picard throwback At the end of Ep1, Mariner tells Boimler, "Sulu rocked a sword. You should do that, we're due for a new sword guy.". I immediately thought "What about Elnor?" I quickly realized that Mariner may not know about Elnor because this happens before ST:Picard, but the writers definitely knew when they threw that line in.
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The_Doctor posted:Man, some of you are so keen to hate on LDS. I was looking up the cast on IMDb and accidentally looked at the user reviews. They’re so full of vitriol it honestly can’t be healthy. Don’t be like them. It’s not meant to be deep, it’s just jokey fun in a pre-existing universe you already know the rules to. I will admit part of me is fascinated from a people-watching perspective by these kinds of folks who want to want to live in their own misery so much that they cut it open with a butter knife and just craw right into its guts. It also speaks to larger, more deep seated issues in their lives, and it almost makes me wish I'd majored in psychology just so that I had the proper metrics to understand it all with.
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