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The Battlefield franchise is on sale; any of them worth picking up now, especially in a "load it up with lots of bots so can have easy matches whenever" kind of way? I own BF3 on Origin and I don't think it gives me that option...
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goferchan posted:Yeah you probably had the "fake" modifier which makes a couple cells just lie to you. You can see the stage mods listed before you enter the stage. That's often a dangerous one and it's pretty rare to get on an early quest, but it also counts as a "difficult" mod which means you get more loot and rarer loot when it's on a stage. I figured it out, it was the Dizzy Stars omen which doubles a random cell value. I hadn't properly realised what that did but it makes sense now.
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Aug 14, 2020 07:28
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John Lee posted:Stuff worth noting: I never especially found storage expansions to be necessary, as long as you don't hoard things for no reason, but let's assume for the sake of argument that you need them. Some good info in there. I hope they make things more intuitive with their UI and shops for New Genesis. It's honestly overwhelming for the new player experience. It's so menu heavy and has more windows than Microsoft. Side note: big fan of the grappling moves.
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Artelier posted:The Battlefield franchise is on sale; any of them worth picking up now, especially in a "load it up with lots of bots so can have easy matches whenever" kind of way? I own BF3 on Origin and I don't think it gives me that option... I dunno about bots but the last time I had fun in a battlefield game was 4.
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Aug 14, 2020 07:33
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Artelier posted:The Battlefield franchise is on sale; any of them worth picking up now, especially in a "load it up with lots of bots so can have easy matches whenever" kind of way? I own BF3 on Origin and I don't think it gives me that option...
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Artelier posted:The Battlefield franchise is on sale; any of them worth picking up now, especially in a "load it up with lots of bots so can have easy matches whenever" kind of way? I own BF3 on Origin and I don't think it gives me that option... honestly, i would pass on battlefields on the PC at this time. without writing a lot of words, DICE has been a disaster and BF5 was a massive flop. it was supposed to be EA/DICE's BIG FLAGSHIP Games as a Live Service GaaSYY fartcloud supposedly going to be a big 5-year project and they canned it little over 1 year later bvecause it was basically dead adn a flop player-wise. If you really must, BF1 is the one to get. It has some cool things going on and it's been refined quite a bit since release. but one of the major major problems BF has at the moment is anti-cheat is non-existant, community servers don't exist so theres no admin tools, and there's no enforcement or reporting* options that are even meaningful and the playerbase has dwindled to such a tiny fraction that you're going to pretty much run into ruined matches really often now. BF1 was actually kind of a safe-zone for awhile after 5 came out but now that 5 has been dead and players moved back to 1, same thing has popped up back on 1. if you want to play single-player shootmans, just play games like DOOM 2016/Eternal, Wolfestein, Call of Juarez Gunslinger (pro choice), AMID EVIL or stuff like that. If you want an actual multiplayer shooter, probably check out the latest COD or Squad or Hell Let Loose or something like that. if you absolutely have to pickup one up for some compulsatory lizardbrain reason, just get Bad Company 2. It's the best game DICE has ever done by far and there's still some active BC2 players (albeit, not many at all but enough for 1-2 servers). also the singleplayer campaign ain't insultingly bad. Xaris fucked around with this message at 07:38 on Aug 14, 2020 |
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Aug 14, 2020 07:36
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I honestly am not sure why DICE can't balance their games nicely. It's what made me stop playing BF1 prematurely. And BF4 because they couldn't bother to remove god-tier invincible brush that can withstand the force of a tank at full-speed. I gave up on them. Sheesh. If they can make magic happen again though and bust out an awesome Bad Company 3 with at least one mention of Truckzilla.... 
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Aug 14, 2020 07:50
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Just port Bad Company 1 you nerds. I'd love to play that campaign again. That game had some great commercials.
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Aug 14, 2020 08:02
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Jamfrost posted:Some good info in there. I hope they make things more intuitive with their UI and shops for New Genesis. It's honestly overwhelming for the new player experience. It's so menu heavy and has more windows than Microsoft. Oh, no doubt, the game kept adding cool new things without stripping out obsolete ones or considering how to make the UI easy to use - and then the version we got has some UI/content from 'current' PSO2, but also some that stops at Episode 3 (well, 4 now) so it's all a bit of a mess. Oh, one more pro tip: You can make a lot of meseta selling certain things on the player markets; weapons with certain affixes, rare cosmetics, etc. Of course, you can't sell these things on the market without a Premium pass... or can you? If you find EX Cubes lying around (mostly late-game, but you'll find 'em occasionally earlier), you can trade them for 1000-FUN tickets. Then if you trade said FUN for the FUN tickets, you can sometimes get a 3-day shop pass, and three days is all you need. Just put a dozen high-value goods you've been saving up at a hair under market price, and you just made a bundle that you can turn around and put into outfits for SG. ...Or blow ten million on a Crab Walk emote, if you're a player of taste and class.
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Jamfrost posted:I honestly am not sure why DICE can't balance their games nicely. It's what made me stop playing BF1 prematurely. And BF4 because they couldn't bother to remove god-tier invincible brush that can withstand the force of a tank at full-speed. I gave up on them. DICE is kind of a shitshow and I'm not sure they could even capture Bad Company 2 magic ever again. they've been on the record saying they don't understand why people like that game so much. But it's not just balance, there's a lot of problems: - The rock-paper-scissors of air vs ground vs vehicles often waffles around wildly and not in a good way and is often hilariously terrible (i.e. anti-air emplacements are often made useless right away or in BF1 they didn't even respawn between rounds or made to do instant-death one patch and then useless another patch); s - lovely grindmill (like Tides of War or BF1 DLC weapon unlock "quests" which were horribly boring slogs to get through, or very evil treadmill power grind like BF5 planes where each level gave you infinitely better weapons making the power differential insane); -Just absolutely horrendous map design (especially in BF5 but even a lot of BF1) these days where all the map makin talent seems to have fled + an awful desire to make all their maps "one size fits all" so they can reuse the same map for conquest, pigeons, rush, TDM, frontlines, etc which makes it lovely for all modes; - A lack of maps (for example, Battlefield 5 launched with a grand total of 8 maps, a year later it had like 11 compared to BF1 which had 19, which compared to BF3/4 had like 25); - A lot of weapons either feel way too samey (especially in 5) and not a whole lot of cool loadouts you can do and some classes being a bit too pigeon-holed; - Abolishing community servers was really stupid, destroyed communal cohesion and basically allows games to be overrun by hackers because DICE literally has almost zero anti-cheat and you can just google "free battlefield 1 cheat" and download the first result and have that work for you, and what's worse is that it worked in BF5 right off the bat too even for being a different game. There are no reporting tools either and even if there were there's no one responding to them. It's a shame because I can't stand Battle Royale, 6v6 overwatch poo poo, deathmatch games, call of duty, or tryhard Arma ~real tacticool milsim~ poo poo and BF is closest to what I actually like playing, so there isn't really much else to go to. but man the series has been bungled a lot. I wish they would just focus on an Operations/Rush game mode and create a game from teh ground up based on that like they did with Bad Company 2. and limit poo poo to 32/40-players Xaris fucked around with this message at 08:18 on Aug 14, 2020 |
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Aug 14, 2020 08:13
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You know, if they take away jets and just keep it to vehicle, infantry, and chopper gameplay, it'll be good. (Easier to balance anyway.) Edit: Woah, your edited points make me go, "Yiiiiikes." Have you looked into Squad? The TL;DR of it is have a mic for communication and it sits comfortably in-between Arma and Battlefield in terms of realism and gameplay.
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Aug 14, 2020 08:19
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Jamfrost posted:Have you looked into Squad? The TL;DR of it is have a mic for communication and it sits comfortably in-between Arma and Battlefield in terms of realism and gameplay. I might try it on a free weekend or something. but yeah I think Helicopters is the only air that ever makes sense because it requires teamwork to utilize and provides team-wide utility in both air-droppoing around stalemates and flanking whereas planes are always just "bomb/trench dart poo poo over and over by 1 dude". BC2 stuck the perfect combined arms balance, and also the player-count and map design went a long way there too. Xaris fucked around with this message at 08:29 on Aug 14, 2020 |
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Aug 14, 2020 08:25
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Xaris posted:I admit I haven't tried that one, but from the few videos I've seen make it seem to lean very far on the ArmA side of things which I was never a fan of. I've preferred gameplay more in line with Day of Defeat/BF. From what I've played of it I would say Squad is somewhere between Red Orchestra and Arma. "realistic" but not full milsim level, and somewhat more involved than RO with stuff like map control (there's also a mode that randomly selects objectives) and there's player built FOBs and weapons and so on that will eventually need to be resupplied by somebody driving a supply truck back to base to get ammo and material. You will want to have a mic, and you will get frustrated because you feel like you can't spot other players and are dying out of nowhere and have no idea what you're doing. (though the same happens on BF 64 player or metro servers...) It grew out of the old Project Reality mod for BF2 if you ever played that.
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Aug 14, 2020 09:38
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Metro 24/7 servers. What a ride.
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Aug 14, 2020 10:19
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cheetah7071 posted:I don't think you need to bring weird nationalist conspiracy theories to explain a company that thinks it has the means rebelling against its digital landlords China has a finger in too many pies to count, so dismissing the possibility out of hand is naive. I figure Tencent - which owns about 40% of Epic - would indirectly benefit from Apple and Google somehow losing a fight that Triple-T has started. The thing is that Tim is just that greedy and dumb, so that's just his way of lashing out at people who caught him red-handed and with his pants down.
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Aug 14, 2020 10:30
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Planes in BF1 are considerably less godlike than the ones in BF4, which is a huge plus in my book. Also guns are super odd and weird in how they look and their animations are full of characters. I loved BC2 but BF1 has been scratching the itch pretty nicely lately. Also is there a difference between community servers and privately hosted ones? Because as far as I can see no one in SouthAm uses the official DICE servers, it's all third-party.
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Artelier posted:The Battlefield franchise is on sale; any of them worth picking up now, especially in a "load it up with lots of bots so can have easy matches whenever" kind of way? I own BF3 on Origin and I don't think it gives me that option... I haven't tried it myself, but this might be what you are looking for? Still in early access if that's a dealbreaker as well.
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Aug 14, 2020 13:38
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Really the most insane thing about DICE is not making Battlefield 2143.
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BF1 was definitely my favourite game in the series since BC2. It toned down on the unlock bloat of 4, meaning the weapons were more distinctive, and I thought it handled vehicle balance better too, though skygods could still be overbearing at times. I even liked most of its maps. I also waited until the Russian expansion was out, most of the bugs were fixed, and they repackaged the whole game and all of its past and future DLC in one cheap buy-in. Never got BF5 because everytime I checked the thread it was either "game still sucks" or "game was good for a month, then they made it suck again. Playing the beta, I actually thought BF5 looked worse than BF1, which had a very particular tone and style to it.
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Aug 14, 2020 13:58
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Groovelord Neato posted:Really the most insane thing about DICE is not making Battlefield 2143. They can't infringe on the money potential of Battlefront, which has become Sci-fi Battlefield. It sucks!
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Aug 14, 2020 14:25
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What doesn't suck is this update about the mouse-driven UI for Dwarf Fortress' steam version. https://store.steampowered.com/newshub/app/975370/view/4639224265623959693
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Aug 14, 2020 14:32
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Orv posted:What doesn't suck is this update about the mouse-driven UI for Dwarf Fortress' steam version.
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Aug 14, 2020 14:40
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Shrecknet posted:Making Dwarf Fortress easier to understand and more approachable seems antithetical to the game's main appeal
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Orv posted:They can't infringe on the money potential of Battlefront, which has become Sci-fi Battlefield.
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Shrecknet posted:Making Dwarf Fortress easier to understand and more approachable seems antithetical to the game's main appeal Nah, the UI being bad is a hurdle everyone has to get over. The only people who take pride in it are weird grognards, which thankfully doesn't include the developers. The appeal is in the ridiculously detailed world and character simulation, which isn't going anywhere. Making it easier to understand what's happening and how to affect it will make the game better for everyone.
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Shrecknet posted:Making Dwarf Fortress easier to understand and more approachable seems antithetical to the game's main appeal As people said, Dwarf Fortress is one of those games that people are passionate about that whenever they introduce a friend to it, one of the first things they say is "Okay the UI sucks rear end but once you get used to it..." It's absolutely in its interest to allow people to access the story engine more easily. Mordja posted:Tbh if Battlefront actually were more like Battlefield I might play it. It's actually looser and more arcadey than I like. I really appreciate the work they put into making Battlefront 2 (and BF5) good after launching in really bad states but I generally agree, every time I try to play Battlefront 2 it feels super slippery and the TTK feels horrible to me. So generally agreed.
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Aug 14, 2020 15:09
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Looking forward to a military screen that doesn't make me want to die
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Looking forward to another 10 years of thinking to myself "I should try to get into dwarf fortress sometime..."
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In another ten years, the controls might be good enough that it would actually not be a pain to do so, so stick with that attitude!
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Aug 14, 2020 15:27
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If they rereleased BF3 as is I'd play it
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Aug 14, 2020 16:08
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I'm trying to find a game that my team at work can play to unwind on those dark and stormy quarantine nights. We're all males between 20-40 and interested in tech and used to games if that helps. Fall Guys crossed my radar and I want to ask you folks about it. It's just a bit expensive at  for a work game but besides that, is it easy to host private games of like 15 people to play in? Is there a better, cheaper option for work games? We've done Counter Strike and Quake Champions to death and I'm looking for something that's kinda light but also can make for some hilarious chaos when possible. GreatGreen fucked around with this message at 16:28 on Aug 14, 2020 |
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Xaris posted:yeah I admit I didn't play BF1 for very long at launch and I was kinda lukewarm on it; however, BF5 by comparison makes it look loving good. and tbf they did patch it up a bunch but still ehhh. I think it's the best game DICE has done since Bad Company 2; however, it's only a tiny fraction as good. Yea I agree with pretty much all of this, and I’ll add that - mode design was not good where maps were designed around conquest with other modes awkwardly bolted onto the same space, but conquest itself wasn’t great because flags all had huge cap zones and slow cap speeds so the musical chairs gameplay of 2 stampedes running past each other sweeping undefended flags was ramped up since a small number of flag defenders didn’t make the same difference anymore -not only were there not many maps, but too many of the maps just loving sucked. the only launch map I was excited to see was arras, and I mostly enjoyed rotterdam. I actively hated fjell and devastation and felt pretty lukewarm about Hamada, narvik, twisted steel, aerodrome. Environmental destruction was also toned way down compared to say BC2, with every map having tons of invincible structures but also a weird design where the whole map started off pristine except for 1 flag which would be an already-bombed-out husk that you couldn’t destroy any further -the game’s team balancing situation was a loving joke where not only did it have no autobalance, but you also couldn’t switch teams so when the game just decided to start a match with one team down 8 players it was probably the end of that server after a lovely unsatisfying stomp where more and more people left and you had no way to fix it yourself by switching your squad to the smaller team. This happened a lot, because: - the game’s UI/online stuff was really amateurish and required you to leave the server entirely to process unlocks and assignments, which was both needlessly clunky and led to a lot of churn in servers because people constantly had to leave to get new assignments. UX to adjust your kit w as also clunky - the kit design, holy poo poo.  made a kit that was the best at killing infantry and also the best at killing vehicles. This series is old enough to drive! How did they do this!!- vehicle design sucked where planes were as cancerous as usual with MAA so ineffectual that it couldn’t kill a bomber flying directly at it eating every hit in the face. tanks were coffins if you tried to use them to push and take flags because their turret turnspeed was extremely slow for all but the fragile staghound and panzer38, while they also had fairly limited ammo, so they incentivized just sitting back and sniping from a distance at a vehicle station. This is because everyone was playing the aforementioned class with the best antitank weapons because it also had the best anti infantry weapons, so every infantry player could kill tanks. Vehicle count was also extremely low on most maps with extremely few transport vehicles, no jeeps etc - all of the game’s “immersive” poo poo did nothing but add frustration, the little animations they added for picking up health and ammo that moved your aim and lowered your weapon, long vehicle enter/exit animations which weren’t consistent but made you vulnerable for ages, the bleedout screen where you have to either scream for a medic because WAR IS HELL or hold a button for 5 seconds just to see the map again (but also prevent yourself from being revived anymore for some reason) which is way too much loving ceremony for an arcade shooter where you’ll probably see this 10+ times a match It was really hard to believe that BFV’s series was 16 years old, we had some really good moments in BFV and DICE’s sound design was loving fantastic as always but they have sadly become a shadow of their former self
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GreatGreen posted:I'm trying to find a game that my team at work can play to unwind on those dark and stormy quarantine nights. I don't think there's any way to do private matches in Fall Guys. Jackbox is always a great option for a bunch of people though!
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explosivo posted:I don't think there's any way to do private matches in Fall Guys. Jackbox is always a great option for a bunch of people though! Got it, thanks.
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fall guys is fun but i refunded right before the 2 hour mark, not sure how much more enjoyment id get after that
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I know that pain is the name of the game for La-Mulana but I felt like 2 delighted a bit too much in scattering dick move traps and dick move enemy placements everywhere. It felt like anytime I took a hit I'd end up falling down 3 screens or getting juggled by a series of enemies into a trap or trapdoor that drops me another couple screens, because there are basically no i-frames now. Thank gently caress, I finally evaded the series of trapdoors to get to that little statue annnd it just shot me with an instant death laser from halfway across the screen. This is in the first loving area!!
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MonkeyforaHead posted:La-Mulana This probably should go in the unpopular vg opinions thread, but La-Mulana is a terrible game with awful controls. Its popularity is a mystery to me. I guess some people just like slamming their nuts in a drawer repeatedly.
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Oldstench posted:This probably should go in the unpopular vg opinions thread, but La-Mulana is a terrible game with awful controls. e: MMF Freeway posted:I think the gameplay in La-Mulana is great anilEhilated fucked around with this message at 17:48 on Aug 14, 2020 |
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RBA Starblade posted:If they rereleased BF3 as is I'd play it It really is crazy to me that DICE managed to release such an absolute beauty of a game of BC2, and then go "well, we have no idea why people liked it" and then just make worse and worse games.
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I think the gameplay in La-Mulana is great and also I totally understand why someone would hate it. The controls are absolutely stiff, but that stiffness at least has a purpose imo. You get used to it eventually and it stops feeling so bad although its not exactly a realistic ask for people to put in a half dozen hours just to get to the point where it feels "okay"
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