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Baron von Eevl
Jan 24, 2005

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rydiafan posted:

And, again, you're ignoring the very reasonable option where he got it on with someone before he was hosed up, wrinkly, and 80.

He is a perfectly normal looking non-octogenarian at the start of episode 3, when Padme is pregnant. If he hosed somebody at that time, then Rey's dad and Kylo's mom would be the same age.

I addressed that. They showed Rey's father, the actor was in his 20s and would need to be in his 40s or 50s. It's hypothetically possible he just aged really gracefully, but that's more hoops to jump through when they already just said he was a clone.

SneezeOfTheDecade posted:

Revenge of the Sith is set 19 years before A New Hope; The Force Awakens is set 30 years after Return of the Jedi, or 34 years after A New Hope. Rey is 19 in The Force Awakens, putting her birth 15 years after A New Hope. If Palpatine - who was 63 in Revenge - hosed before he was revealed to be Darth Sidious (and thereby gained his scarring), his child would have been at least 34 years old when Rey was born, and (hopefully) no more than 79. Completely reasonable.

:goonsay:

I mean except they showed him and he wasn't that old. The actor's only 30 now.

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Byzantine
Sep 1, 2007

The hell is even the point of taking over the whole galaxy if you aren't going to bone down.

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Oct 15, 2012

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John Murdoch posted:

If only there was some way for Palpatine to sire a child without having to bump uglies with somebody... Like, I dunno, use the force or something? Just spitballing here haha.

Space magic and laser space swords I can accept, but if you're going to suggest some kind of fantastical nonsense like some kind of medical space procedure wherein an egg is fertilized by sperm in a space test tube or elsewhere outside the body I don't think you really understand the difference between science-fiction (which Star Wars is) and some kind of Fantasy Space Opera (which Star Wars definitely isn't)

Rascar Capac
Aug 31, 2016

Surprisingly nice, for an evil Inca mummy.

christmas boots posted:

Space magic and laser space swords I can accept, but if you're going to suggest some kind of fantastical nonsense like some kind of medical space procedure wherein an egg is fertilized by sperm in a space test tube or elsewhere outside the body I don't think you really understand the difference between science-fiction (which Star Wars is) and some kind of Fantasy Space Opera (which Star Wars definitely isn't)

In Revenge of the Sith none of the Space Doctors or Space Wizards can tell that a woman is pregnant with twins.

Riot Carol Danvers
Jul 30, 2004

It's super dumb, but I can't stop myself. This is just kind of how I do things.

Rascar Capac posted:

In Revenge of the Sith none of the Space Doctors or Space Wizards can tell that a woman is pregnant with twins.

That woman should sue for Space Malpractice, then.

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Oct 15, 2012

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Rascar Capac posted:

In Revenge of the Sith none of the Space Doctors or Space Wizards can tell that a woman is pregnant with twins.

They also claimed that the cause of death was a broken heart so I’m thinking maybe all the good space doctors got purged with the whole order 66 thing

Baron von Eevl
Jan 24, 2005

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Star Wars is a very old universe that has been stagnated for a very long time, people remember how to build hyperspace drives but they have no idea how they work anymore. It's like if we knew how to build cars and how to refine oil into gasoline but we had forgotten as a civilization what chemistry is or how it works, we just know if we do it this way it seems to make go now. Similarly, they probably know how to build bacta tanks that heal people but have no loving idea why it works or how the human body is put together.

Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT
PALPATINE SEX

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth
Sheev Palpatine, like all politicians, hosed. And Star Wars "fans" can't handle it. Even before episode one starts he's a senator for a mega-rich resort planet.

Clone nonsense from 40 year old cash grab tie-in novels is easier to understand to some people than the fact the guy's got serious game.

rydiafan
Mar 17, 2009


Baron von Eevl posted:

I addressed that. They showed Rey's father, the actor was in his 20s and would need to be in his 40s or 50s. It's hypothetically possible he just aged really gracefully, but that's more hoops to jump through when they already just said he was a clone.

Whether the official explanation is clone or not, your insistence prior to learning that was that it was literally impossible for Palpatine to have a biological child the right age range as Rey's parents was wrong. I was disputing that claim.

I'm unclear why you're so resistant to the concept that a normal looking man, who was charismatic enough to talk a Jedi into slaughtering children, and has the most power of anyone in the known galaxy was able to get his dick wet.

rydiafan has a new favorite as of 19:45 on Aug 13, 2020

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Oct 15, 2012

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To oohs😮 to ahhs😱 to 👏big👏applause👏
With all of my 😡anger I scream🤬 and shout📢
🇺🇸America🦅, I love you 🥰but you're freaking 💦me 😳out
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It also changes nothing. Even if Rey's father is a clone of Palpatine, Rey cannot be born unless Palpatine fucks.

Decrepus
May 21, 2008

In the end, his dominion did not touch a single poster.


Wasabi the J posted:

PALPATINE SEX

Unlimited nut

Taeke
Feb 2, 2010


I just realized I never actually finished the last SW movie. Huh.

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Oct 15, 2012

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To oohs😮 to ahhs😱 to 👏big👏applause👏
With all of my 😡anger I scream🤬 and shout📢
🇺🇸America🦅, I love you 🥰but you're freaking 💦me 😳out
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Decrepus posted:

Unlimited nut

Did you ever watch the Tragedy of Darth PlaXXXs the Wise? I thought not. It's not a porno the Jedi would show you

Baron von Eevl
Jan 24, 2005

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rydiafan posted:

Whether the official explanation is clone or not, your insistence prior to learning that was that it was literally impossible for Palpatine to have a biological child the right age range as Rey's parents was wrong. I was disputing that claim.

I'm unclear why you're so resistant to the concept that a normal looking man, who was charismatic enough to talk a Jedi into slaughtering children, and has the most power of anyone in the known galaxy was able to get his dick wet.


Baron von Eevl posted:

They showed Rey's father, the actor was in his 20s and would need to be in his 40s or 50s.

I don't think it's literally impossible, I think it's a better explanation that he had a clone that ran off, in the franchise that's even had a movie about how much Palpatine is into the idea of clones. I said the explanation that the book provided is better, if you disagree okay but don't act like it's some wild hair brained thing to think instead of either a septuagenarian who's never shown any sexual drive on camera or a loving shambling cloaked wraith having a biological kid. Either is possible! I just think it's dumb!

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SneezeOfTheDecade
Feb 6, 2011

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Baron von Eevl posted:

I addressed that. They showed Rey's father, the actor was in his 20s and would need to be in his 40s or 50s. It's hypothetically possible he just aged really gracefully, but that's more hoops to jump through when they already just said he was a clone.

I mean except they showed him and he wasn't that old. The actor's only 30 now.

Ian McDiarmid was 38 when he played the 87-year-old Emperor Palpatine in Return of the Jedi, Sebastian Shaw was 77 when he played the 46-year-old Vader at the end of the same movie, and Mark Hamill was 25-6 playing the 19-year-old Luke in ANH. Age-appropriate casting has never been Star Wars's strong point. :shrug: But okay, you just think it's dumb, not impossible, and that's fine!

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Jul 11, 2006

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Decrepus posted:

Unlimited nut

Is it possible to learn this power?

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Oct 15, 2012

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To oohs😮 to ahhs😱 to 👏big👏applause👏
With all of my 😡anger I scream🤬 and shout📢
🇺🇸America🦅, I love you 🥰but you're freaking 💦me 😳out
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Baron von Eevl posted:

I don't think it's literally impossible, I think it's a better explanation that he had a clone that ran off, in the franchise that's even had a movie about how much Palpatine is into the idea of clones. I said the explanation that the book provided is better, if you disagree okay but don't act like it's some wild hair brained thing to think instead of either a septuagenarian who's never shown any sexual drive on camera or a loving shambling cloaked wraith having a biological kid. Either is possible! I just think it's dumb!

Palpatine cums seven times a day and there's not a goddamn thing you can do about it

Baron von Eevl
Jan 24, 2005

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SneezeOfTheDecade posted:

Ian McDiarmid was 38 when he played the 87-year-old Emperor Palpatine in Return of the Jedi

Not arguing about it but to be fair there were some prosthetics involved with that performance. I mean Frank Oz wasn't several hundred years old either. edit AS FAR AS WE KNOW

christmas boots posted:

Palpatine cums seven times a day and there's not a goddamn thing you can do about it

this is me irl rn

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Tunicate
May 15, 2012

Baron von Eevl posted:

Similarly, they probably know how to build bacta tanks that heal people but have no loving idea why it works or how the human body is put together.

They run with that in the novels multiple times - being allergic to bacta is a huge liability because that's 90% of medical treatment in star wars, with cybernetic replacements being the other 10%

Inspector Gesicht
Oct 26, 2012

500 Zeus a body.


There was simply no need to recycle the overarching villain of six prior movies as the capstone for an unrelated trilogy. Of course there was a need to have shared writers and creatives for said trilogy, something which is easily achievable by a multi-billion dollar corporation. In the end we got an incestuous pile of derivative wank that's less bang for your buck than Tom Hooper's CATS.

The Bloop
Jul 5, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
Whatever you think about it, it was hardly an "unrelated" trilogy wtf

This was the end of the Skywalker saga, and palpy was there beginning to end

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.

Baron von Eevl posted:

Star Wars is a very old universe that has been stagnated for a very long time

I was 10 when A New Hope came out and even back then I never got the obsession with it. I think I was more a monster movie, horror movie and D&D/sowd and socrcery nerd. I mean, I liked it but never felt inspired by it and preferred JAWS, King Kong, Godzilla, Planet of the Apes, The Hobbit and TV shows like The Incredible Hulk, Six Million Dollar Man and toys like Evel Knievel and poo poo. Not sure why since I am obviously in the minority and SW stokes so much discussion here.

The original first 2 movies are the only ones I've ever really liked tbh. Never cared for Star Trek much either. I'd say I just don't like outer space science fiction but I love the Alien movies, 2001, ET and Starship Troopers and what have you so I don't think it's that. I hate when SW comes up because I know I have to skim past 2 pages every time it does.

I realize no one cares wtf I think but I'm postin anyways.

LIVE AMMO COSPLAY
Feb 3, 2006

The Bloop posted:

Whatever you think about it, it was hardly an "unrelated" trilogy wtf

This was the end of the Skywalker saga, and palpy was there beginning to end

Sounds more like the Palpatine saga.

Baron von Eevl
Jan 24, 2005

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BiggerBoat posted:

preferred JAWS,

You don't say.

The Bloop
Jul 5, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

LIVE AMMO COSPLAY posted:

Sounds more like the Palpatine saga.

Sure sure, same force/ dark side coin

BrigadierSensible
Feb 16, 2012

I've got a pocket full of cheese🧀, and a garden full of trees🌴.

Maybe I am missing something, or am just looking at the issue in a pointlessly "grimdark" way.

But Palpatine is an evil space wizard. Evil being the operative word. So maybe he doesn't gently caress, maybe he raped Rey's grandmother. Or ever so slightly less bad, maybe he Jedi-Mind-Tricked her into having sex with him and bearing his evil space midi chlorian riddled seed.

And my irrationally irritating moment re: the Stallone Dredd, is that they had the Angel Family, but didn't use Mean Machine. I mean you have the budget for the stupid robot thing Armand Assante uses at the end, but you cant throw a little cash to make a Mean Machine Angel prosthetic?

rydiafan
Mar 17, 2009


BrigadierSensible posted:

And my irrationally irritating moment re: the Stallone Dredd, is that they had the Angel Family, but didn't use Mean Machine. I mean you have the budget for the stupid robot thing Armand Assante uses at the end, but you cant throw a little cash to make a Mean Machine Angel prosthetic?

What are you taking about? Mean Machine is in it.

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


Mean Machine is in the movie?

Also pretty sure I complained a while back in this thread about how the other Angel family members are alive so clearly the Judge Child story arc hasn't happened but Mean Machine is still missing his other arm.

BrigadierSensible
Feb 16, 2012

I've got a pocket full of cheese🧀, and a garden full of trees🌴.

rydiafan posted:

What are you taking about? Mean Machine is in it.


muscles like this! posted:

Mean Machine is in the movie?

Also pretty sure I complained a while back in this thread about how the other Angel family members are alive so clearly the Judge Child story arc hasn't happened but Mean Machine is still missing his other arm.

Whoops. I haven't seen the film for years. I am provably wrong. All I remembered was a half arsed hillbilly family that I thought was supposed to represent the Angels. I must have misremembered.

Sorry.

Push El Burrito
May 9, 2006

Soiled Meat
In Nothing But Trouble I don't believe the judge really respected people's right to due process.

Also his nose was a little penis.

Android Apocalypse
Apr 28, 2009

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Push El Burrito posted:

In Nothing But Trouble I don't believe the judge really respected people's right to due process.

Also his nose was a little penis.

Not irritating per se but it's amazing how that movie came to be. Dan Aykroyd has some crazy ideas but he needs somebody to help edit his ideas down to something manageable.

Push El Burrito
May 9, 2006

Soiled Meat

Android Apocalypse posted:

Not irritating per se but it's amazing how that movie came to be. Dan Aykroyd has some crazy ideas but he needs somebody to help edit his ideas down to something manageable.

It was also the film debut of Tupac.

LIVE AMMO COSPLAY
Feb 3, 2006

It's funny that waaay back in 2008 Step Brothers has a character quoting Scarface to make them look lovely and unfunny, then Ghostbusters '16 does it completely unironically to make the hero sound badass.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer
Thinking about Jedi and Sith babies, in 2020 they'd probably do gender reveals with pink and blue light sabers and they'd give their babies trendy names with Y's in place of other vowels...like Qyi-Gyn-Jynn.

christmas boots posted:

Palpatine cums seven times a day and there's not a goddamn thing you can do about it

Palpatine is floating in one of those medical vats, but it's all just Force jizz.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Baron von Eevl posted:

Star Wars is a very old universe that has been stagnated for a very long time, people remember how to build hyperspace drives but they have no idea how they work anymore. It's like if we knew how to build cars and how to refine oil into gasoline but we had forgotten as a civilization what chemistry is or how it works, we just know if we do it this way it seems to make go now. Similarly, they probably know how to build bacta tanks that heal people but have no loving idea why it works or how the human body is put together.

This was better when Warhammer did it

jojoinnit
Dec 13, 2010

Strength and speed, that's why you're a special agent.

Baron von Eevl posted:

Star Wars is a very old universe that has been stagnated for a very long time, people remember how to build hyperspace drives but they have no idea how they work anymore. It’s like if we knew how to build cars and how to refine oil into gasoline but we had forgotten as a civilization what chemistry is or how it works, we just know if we do it this way it seems to make go now. Similarly, they probably know how to build bacta tanks that heal people but have no loving idea why it works or how the human body is put together.
So Mad Max?

Yngwie Mangosteen
Aug 23, 2007

jojoinnit posted:

So Mad Max?

Yeah but in space.

Barry Bluejeans
Feb 2, 2017

ATTENTHUN THITIZENTH

Krispy Wafer posted:

Thinking about Jedi and Sith babies, in 2020 they'd probably do gender reveals with pink and blue light sabers and they'd give their babies trendy names with Y's in place of other vowels...like Qyi-Gyn-Jynn.

Jedis in modern society would absolutely be Whole Foods liberals

And when you're at that gender reveal party you'd have to listen politely to the mom as she explains how a crystal extracted from the holiest cave of the most far-flung moon in the galaxy completely cured her little Annakyn's autism

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fartknocker
Oct 28, 2012


Damn it, this always happens. I think I'm gonna score, and then I never score. It's not fair.



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Barry Bluejeans posted:

Jedis in modern society would absolutely be Whole Foods liberals

And when you're at that gender reveal party you'd have to listen politely to the mom as she explains how a crystal extracted from the holiest cave of the most far-flung moon in the galaxy completely cured her little Annakyn's autism

I mean, if you use the crystal the right way, in the right tool, it’ll cure anything.

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