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sigma 6
Nov 27, 2004

the mirror would do well to reflect further

A monster a day ... ?



Another Jordu Schell study but this time with marker and color pencil. My friend forced me to add color by drawing on it when I showed it to him. rear end in a top hat.

sigma 6 fucked around with this message at 05:58 on Jul 15, 2020

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Zoben
Oct 3, 2001

sigma 6 posted:

Another ink study of a Jordu Schell sculpt.


Here is a little progress shot.


and some more burning of op art.



Hell yeah man. Love me some op art. Those are ZBrush sculpts then? Do you follow him or get inspiration from Zbrush Central?

I completed the linework for this one so it's on to digital coloring. So the traditional is done and Photoshop is next :)

sigma 6
Nov 27, 2004

the mirror would do well to reflect further

Zoben posted:

Hell yeah man. Love me some op art. Those are ZBrush sculpts then? Do you follow him or get inspiration from Zbrush Central?

I completed the linework for this one so it's on to digital coloring. So the traditional is done and Photoshop is next :)



This is amazing. Composition is especially strong.

Jordu is a traditional sculptor. Been thinking actually about recreating one of his sculpts in zbrush but instead I have just been doing ink renderings. Now one in color pencil.

http://www.jorduschell.com/

Lately I have been just using some of his instagram posts as inspiration.
https://www.instagram.com/schellsculpturestudio/

Heh - didn't know he made the Todd Schorr worm. Saw that thing at a Todd Schorr gallery show once.

sigma 6 fucked around with this message at 05:11 on Jul 16, 2020

silicone thrills
Jan 9, 2008

I paint things
I freehanded. athing on my fence tonight.

Flavius Aetass
Mar 30, 2011
nice. did anyone ask you if it was your fence

silicone thrills
Jan 9, 2008

I paint things

Flavius Aetass posted:

nice. did anyone ask you if it was your fence

I'm a white lady. of course not.

2 people i've never seen before and my neighbor stopped by to thank me while I was painting. i was kind of shocked.

sigma 6
Nov 27, 2004

the mirror would do well to reflect further

New burns.

One designed by Zoben


One designed by Josh Zarambo

sigma 6 fucked around with this message at 21:09 on Jul 18, 2020

silicone thrills
Jan 9, 2008

I paint things
I did another crow. Proportions are better this time. Freehanding from a tiny photo on my phone is definitely a skill to rehone.



sigma 6
Nov 27, 2004

the mirror would do well to reflect further

silicone thrills posted:

I did another crow. Proportions are better this time. Freehanding from a tiny photo on my phone is definitely a skill to rehone.





So good! Doesn't he need a branch though?

***

Here is the final pass on yet another Jordu Schell study. Still trying to figure out how to mix ink and colored pencil. Getting a little better I think.

Which one is better? 1 or 2?

1.



2.



Progress video

Sorry about the weird stretching. Makes me want to use some kind of software which records a timelapse vs. having to make one manually in photoshop. Do any PC painting apps record progress? Pretty sure Procreate on a Mac does.

sigma 6 fucked around with this message at 08:29 on Jul 21, 2020

CobwebMustardseed
Apr 8, 2011

And some said he would just be a shell of his former self upon his return.
Painted this over the weekend and feeling good about how it came out.

sigma 6
Nov 27, 2004

the mirror would do well to reflect further



I have since inked this and applied color pencil. The colored pencil kind of ruined it though. Might just try coloring digitally instead since I still have the linework. Nuts. Colored pencil brand makes a HUGE difference apparently.

silicone thrills
Jan 9, 2008

I paint things
Painted another crow. Need to fiddle with this one some more (bring the body down more, clarify some of the body with more highlights) . Probably gonna go touch up all of them before I do the next one -

sigma 6
Nov 27, 2004

the mirror would do well to reflect further

silicone thrills posted:

Painted another crow. Need to fiddle with this one some more (bring the body down more, clarify some of the body with more highlights) . Probably gonna go touch up all of them before I do the next one -



A group of crows is called a "murder" of crows. Coincidence?

Xposted from the DED thread.

Final pass (?) Probably. Starting to miss doing things digitally. Especially color.


sigma 6 fucked around with this message at 22:27 on Jul 31, 2020

Claeaus
Mar 29, 2010


Painted this guy.

silicone thrills
Jan 9, 2008

I paint things
Gouache sketch of my cat.

Probably should have made the base lighter but i'm really getting the hang of it now I think?

deep dish peat moss
Jul 27, 2006

2020 was the year I was really going to try and showcase my art at local art fairs and trying to get gallery shows and stuff and well that of course didn't happen, so I'm working on putting together a virtual gallery so I can still let people mosey through the worlds of my drawings :kiddo:

https://www.behance.net/gallery/102009579/Weirdspace-the-art-of-bleaksploitation

I would say my biggest influences are... Jean Dubuffet, Akira Toriyama, Lisa Frank, and fluorescent-90s-era Nickelodeon. If that sounds intriguing feel free to give it a gander! Right now it's just a big dump of contextless art with no titles or anything

Here's some newer stuff I haven't posted in this thread, this is all pretty much 100% acrylic and fineliner


(This one doesn't scan well, I used iridescent paint for the background then added the foreground afterward w/ matte acrylic pens so in person it has a sense of depth that you can't see in 2d)



deep dish peat moss fucked around with this message at 22:45 on Aug 9, 2020

silicone thrills
Jan 9, 2008

I paint things
still messing around this with gouache thing a bunch





and some watercolors



dog nougat
Apr 8, 2009
Did some painting this morning for the first time in years. Still pretty rusty. Water color and gouache.

silicone thrills
Jan 9, 2008

I paint things
Yer cactus is so happy :D I love it! Also the green mottling is really fantastic.

dog nougat
Apr 8, 2009
Thanks! Wasn't necessarily intentional, it's been probably like 2 years at least since I've picked up a paint brush. Doubly hard since gouache and water color are not my strong suit.

silicone thrills
Jan 9, 2008

I paint things
Kind of a minor thing but 1 year ago I was in serious treatment for my depression and I was just regaining the ability to feel and to really want to do things and I started a sketch book. I just hit sketch 100 in that book almost exactly 1 year after I started it.

Truman Peyote
Oct 11, 2006



I'm trying to do some black-and-white comic art, using india ink with crow quill pens and brushes. The biggest obstacle right now is putting white lines on black fields. Ideally, I would be filling a black area with a brush and using white ink with the same type of pen nib I'm using for the black lines. Can anyone recommend an ink for this? I tried "Dr Ph. Martin's Bleed Proof White", but it's almost too thick for the nibs, and it stays sticky on the page forever, so if I ever stack the papers or close a sketchbook it smudges all over the place.

dog nougat
Apr 8, 2009
I've never really had great luck with white inks. They're never opaque enough. Liquitex makes or at least made some acrylic inks (basically super light bodied acrylic paints tbh) that worked ok. You're honestly prob better off using gouache or acrylics and a brush to put white over black. Golden makes some really nice, but expensive high flow acrylics that migh5 work with a dip pen, just have to be fast and try not to let it dry. They also work with empty paint marker bodies. Montana has some reasonably fine tipped marker bodies w/ acrylic nibs that don't get clogged too easily.

dupersaurus
Aug 1, 2012

Futurism was an art movement where dudes were all 'CARS ARE COOL AND THE PAST IS FOR CHUMPS. LET'S DRAW SOME CARS.'
Yeah white ink over black is an exercise in futility. Goache or acrylic paint is the “professional” thing, but really you should only be inking what needs to be inked and nothing more

Wowporn
May 31, 2012

HarumphHarumphHarumph
Unfortunately I’ve never found a white ink that worked on black the same way black ink works on white paper, part of why leaving the white lines you want un-inked is such a valuable skill. If you’re actually doing a lot of the linework in white I don’t know if you’ll be able to find anything that’s as good as you’d want outside of using white paint and a superfine brush

dog nougat
Apr 8, 2009


Working on some painting with gouache. I've kinda forgotten. What I'm doing and having to reteach myself as I go along. This would prob be easier if I worked a bit larger. :suicide:

Angrymog
Jan 30, 2012

Really Madcats

Makeout Patrol posted:

I'm trying to do some black-and-white comic art, using india ink with crow quill pens and brushes. The biggest obstacle right now is putting white lines on black fields. Ideally, I would be filling a black area with a brush and using white ink with the same type of pen nib I'm using for the black lines. Can anyone recommend an ink for this? I tried "Dr Ph. Martin's Bleed Proof White", but it's almost too thick for the nibs, and it stays sticky on the page forever, so if I ever stack the papers or close a sketchbook it smudges all over the place.

What about masking fluid or using wax to resist?

dog nougat
Apr 8, 2009
BrainBot



Still a lil rusty with paint, but I'm real happy with this at this point. Plan on cutting it out and doing some collage thing with it.

Truman Peyote
Oct 11, 2006



thanks for the input, folks, I'll try a fine brush with paint first.

deep dish peat moss
Jul 27, 2006

dog nougat posted:

BrainBot



Still a lil rusty with paint, but I'm real happy with this at this point. Plan on cutting it out and doing some collage thing with it.

I love this! How small are the brushes you're working with? I have no idea how to get detail that fine out of paint I feel like a brute mashing my pens into the paper

dog nougat
Apr 8, 2009
Thx! I had a nice sable 1 round, but some sort of lil bug or something ate part of the bristles so it doesn't hold paint well and is unpredictable. Real bummer as the closest art supply store with decent brushes is like 10+ miles away and I don't have a car. Anyway, I did it all with a stubby 2 round. Was on the verge of being too large though, had to be super careful in the detail areas not to go too far.

deep dish peat moss
Jul 27, 2006

Makeout Patrol posted:

I'm trying to do some black-and-white comic art, using india ink with crow quill pens and brushes. The biggest obstacle right now is putting white lines on black fields. Ideally, I would be filling a black area with a brush and using white ink with the same type of pen nib I'm using for the black lines. Can anyone recommend an ink for this? I tried "Dr Ph. Martin's Bleed Proof White", but it's almost too thick for the nibs, and it stays sticky on the page forever, so if I ever stack the papers or close a sketchbook it smudges all over the place.

My methods are very amateur and uneducated so I have no idea if this will help/if this is what you want to do, but I use white acrylic pens for white lines over black fields - I love drawing with acrylic in general and use this inexpensive and easy to clean refillable acrylic pen, it's a very solid color over everything I've tried with one exception: really heavy, absorbent paper

(this actually leads to a pretty cool effect where you can color with markers on absorbent black paper and the color isn't seen but then if you draw over it with white acrylics the acrylic will absorb the color from the paper - you can see that on this drawing - most noticeable in the jellyfish and the lightning stuff at the top).

With that pen in particular you can draw on top of it with other acrylic/ink within seconds as long as you use a light touch with the second pen, if you put much pressure on the pen you'll likely want to give it about an hour to dry to prevent scraping it with the pen nib (this happens to me with fineliner on top of it, which gums up the pen nibs)

Liquitex sells Acrylic Ink which I've never tried and they say on their website that it works in quill pens. I'm partial to Molotow myself, Signal White is a very pure white that has worked on every surface I've tried.

I'm not at all familiar with India Ink but Youtube has videos of people painting acrylic over india ink, e.g.:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjGzZhFc3Ig
And I'm pretty confident you could put india ink on top of acrylic no problem.

Almost everything in this drawing except for the yellow sky and red ground was done by drawing shapes on the background with white acrylic and then coloring them afterward (mostly with other acrylic) - so the buildings for example were a layer of white to create a base, then a layer of black/blue, then a layer of color for the window colors, then finally a black outline






Comedy Option: use Gel Pens as a white base then add color with other ink or paint on top, that's what I did for these:

(Don't do this it will fill your pen nib with gel pen pigment powder)


deep dish peat moss fucked around with this message at 21:47 on Aug 17, 2020

Zoben
Oct 3, 2001

Makeout Patrol posted:

I'm trying to do some black-and-white comic art, using india ink with crow quill pens and brushes. The biggest obstacle right now is putting white lines on black fields. Ideally, I would be filling a black area with a brush and using white ink with the same type of pen nib I'm using for the black lines. Can anyone recommend an ink for this? I tried "Dr Ph. Martin's Bleed Proof White", but it's almost too thick for the nibs, and it stays sticky on the page forever, so if I ever stack the papers or close a sketchbook it smudges all over the place.

I do this constantly in my work, since my style is to use india ink with a Hunt 102 crowquill (sometimes a Uniball and Micron thrown in there) and I like to use white over the black fields a lot, either to "erase out" of my lines, or to do stars and such. I'll share what I do but it's by no means a technique which may work for you.

While it looks cooler in terms of texture and more consistent to use ink and a big brush for the black fields, I usually just fill them up with a big Sharpie/other permanent marker for simplicity (which, of course, is what many comic book artists have done for ages). I scan in my work to color it digitally so it doesn't really matter what the art looks like in an original sense on the bristol board. My absolute favorite pen to use for this is the Sakura Gelly Roll. They seemed to only offer one size for most of the years I've used them, which always worked for me, but now they have .10 and .08 (they could have always had these variations in size but I was unaware). They also have a .05 which I tried and it was too thin to get the ink flowing right, plus I simply didn't need such a thin line. I found that the pen is stubborn if you have a heavy hand -- if you try to use it in a light "rolling" sense over the surface, the ball will let the ink flow out much more nicely. I mean, it's the same with any sort of ballpoint/roller pen, but it's more noticeable with a paint pen.

I recall in the older days trying to use a white-out pen with thick, messy lines; thick paint with a brush which was very hard to control; and using that Jae Lee/Sam Keith/Simon Bisley technique of dragging an X-Acto blade over the black fields to do a ragged tear, revealing some of the bristol underneath. Once I was turned on to the Gelly Rolls I've stuck with them, even while trying out other types of pens. I don't think that using a nib with a really opaque ink worked for me either with the clogging. The pens are only like 2 bucks each and last for a while so they're pretty cheap.

The main issue I've had with this, either with the india ink or the Sharpie, is that the white pen can pull up some of the black and make the lines kind of gray. Even though they're both ostensibly waterproof once dry, it's surprising how much the black fields will still affect the line. Sometimes going over a marker field, it'll look totally awesome when the lines are laid in but after a day or two, the white starts to suck up the black and can take on a strange pinkish/purple tone. This can be ameliorated sometimes by finishing the black lines, making sure to erase any pencil lines, then spraying fixative over the artwork before going back in with white pen.

So, for context, here's some detail on a B+W illustration I did recently and you can see all of the white I drew back into the black. They're also awesome for heightened drawings if you like doing those.

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Zoben
Oct 3, 2001
Oops, double post, gaaaah

Zoben
Oct 3, 2001
Speaking of heightened drawing, doing a commission portrait of Bowie

Baba Bowie

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Zoben
Oct 3, 2001
Now it's finished. Fafa Fooey

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Trabant
Nov 26, 2011

All systems nominal.
^ Between your posts here and in the SDS thread, I absolutely love and recognize your style :)


Not my design, just a linocut print reproduction of an anti-drug patch I saw online:



I wanted a print of it but it's apparently a one-of-one found object so I had to make my own version. Many hours later... :negative:

sigma 6
Nov 27, 2004

the mirror would do well to reflect further

Trabant posted:

^ Between your posts here and in the SDS thread, I absolutely love and recognize your style :)


Not my design, just a linocut print reproduction of an anti-drug patch I saw online:



I wanted a print of it but it's apparently a one-of-one found object so I had to make my own version. Many hours later... :negative:

Wow ... that's pretty... uh... dope?

Heh heh huh....

Trabant
Nov 26, 2011

All systems nominal.

sigma 6 posted:

Wow ... that's pretty... uh... dope?

Heh heh huh....

:haw:

Nice goblin!

Or is it a troll? I'm not good with imaginary creature taxonomy :ohdear:

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dog nougat
Apr 8, 2009
Been working on a painting over the past week, just about finished!! Just need to rework the purple gradient a little bit and get a paint guide for the borders. The line work around the lettering isn't photographing well for some reason, but it doesn't look as blown out in person :shrug:



Some progress shots for y'all.

Outlined


Painting day 1


Day 3. Made a really stupid spelling error and set myself back like 2 hours




Day 4 more progress. Had to stop and sit down and do a quick color/value study for the crab to get it before i hosed up and overworked it.

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