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xzzy posted:WTF is he supposed to do when law enforcement refuses to enforce, every chud lawyer is filing lawsuits crying about how unconstitutional his orders are, and everyone else ignores the order because Americans are loving stupid and don't give a poo poo who they kill? idk at a minimum don't just willingly open'r up? Don't move the entire state to Phase 4 despite clearly not meeting your IDPH's own requirements for contact tracing, which we still don't meet? Don't have your mitigation efforts for areas exploding out of control be hilariously stupid poo poo like "oh close the bars at 11pm!"? There's still a chance that the state would be in bad shape and trending worse even if he took every correct step, but it's been nothing but bad decisions since Illinois entered Phase 3 and then sprinted to Phase 4.
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I guess, but the phases were dead on arrival. Everyone called them stupid the day they were announced the only thing spreading faster than the plague was people ignoring mask and distancing rules.
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idk seems like they rushed to Phase 4 mainly to get indoor dining and especially schools open at any cost, and welp, this is the cost!
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The only way to handle this even remotely effectively would have been to pay everyone to stay the gently caress home and the feds are the only ones with a bankroll big enough to do that. Obviously we know how that shook out. There was no correct answer on a state by state level.
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brugroffil posted:Metro East has reached 'mitigation level' and will face new restrictions in Illinois. Here's the tough new crackdown: This is all incredibly stupid, just like everything else.
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Big Black Dick posted:The only way to handle this even remotely effectively would have been to pay everyone to stay the gently caress home and the feds are the only ones with a bankroll big enough to do that. Obviously we know how that shook out. There was no correct answer on a state by state level. This is exactly it. Covid19 has shown the failures of the American system of government at every level.
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Big Black Dick posted:The only way to handle this even remotely effectively would have been to pay everyone to stay the gently caress home and the feds are the only ones with a bankroll big enough to do that. Obviously we know how that shook out. There was no correct answer on a state by state level. 
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Dude's a billionaire. gently caress him.
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Niwrad posted:Sad thing is it probably does resonate with their base. DEEP STATE GOT TO HIM! Replace Deep State with Madigan and you sound just like the Willie Wilson voter at work! NaanViolence posted:Dude's a billionaire. gently caress him. 💯 this The X-man cometh fucked around with this message at 23:51 on Aug 17, 2020 |
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Bird in a Blender posted:No dancing? What is this, Footloose? Yea, that is barely any sort of mitigation plan. the mitigation plan over the river in St Louis is "shut down adult softball and soccer leagues", it's scattershot I agree
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I never thought I'd get this mad at college students but this is off campus housing for ISU here in Normal IL. Every time I'm near campus, I see pretty big gatherings. The bars in Bloomington are a crowded clusterfuck too, I hear. None of the 20k college kids who came down from all over the state give a gently caress and we're doomed.  
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dwarf74 posted:I never thought I'd get this mad at college students but this is off campus housing for ISU here in Normal IL. Not going to blame college kids for this. Adults hosed up and 18 year olds are going to do what 18 year olds do.
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Niwrad posted:Not going to blame college kids for this. Adults hosed up and 18 year olds are going to do what 18 year olds do.
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It sucks because ISU is a nursing and teaching school, they should kind of know better. I'm gonna blame the business majors for this one.
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I mean don't get me wrong - I also blame the student apartment companies and the isu administration. But I'm not gonna go "oh well that's students for you!" mid-pandemic when I'm here in Normal trying my best not to die.
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Devo posted:It sucks because ISU is a nursing and teaching school, they should kind of know better. Given how many nurses I’ve seen in my FB feed falling for ‘it’s a hoax’ bullshit I’m going to say it’s teens being nuero typical teens (e.g. really bad at risk assessment).
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dwarf74 posted:I never thought I'd get this mad at college students but this is off campus housing for ISU here in Normal IL. Okay gently caress the Lodge that looks like a normal weekend at ISU. The classes are basically all remote ANYWAY so this is just sad.
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dwarf74 posted:I mean don't get me wrong - I also blame the student apartment companies and the isu administration. But I'm not gonna go "oh well that's students for you!" mid-pandemic when I'm here in Normal trying my best not to die. I live in a college town too, you should be pointing every ounce of your anger at the colleges. They're the ones who had the choice to make the safe decision, and they want people to get mad at the students because every second spent scolding them is not spent putting administrators at the end of pitchforks, which is their goal edit: their plan is to bring students back to soak up their tuition money and make them go through some really basic information and sign some sort of agreement that says "I will do all these things to not pass COVID" so that they can send them away in 2 weeks and blame the student body for this failure while counting their dollars, it's evil and scummy and gently caress every school dishonest enough to try this bullshit DC Murderverse fucked around with this message at 03:29 on Aug 18, 2020 |
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Yeah the students are dumb but I am fine blaming this 100% on colleges that knew exactly what was gonna happen and didn't want to announce full remote ahead of time because they wanted the tuition money. If you give a drunk person some car keys and they get in a wreck on the way home it's their fault but you definitely shouldn't have given them the keys.
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Those are a couple hundred kids out of 20 thousand students but it's enough to infect the entire student body. ISU has enough medical experts to know this could happen, they shouldn't have opened in person. Like someone said, this way they get that tuition money.
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Politicians and leaders have failed over and over and over again. Their only response at this point is to open bars and then yell at people for going to them. JB couldn't have turned Illinois into NZ, but his decisions since May have been consistently wrong in the open'r up direction.
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Jows posted:I think if you're impeached, removed from office, disallowed from ever holding public office ever again, and imprisoned for the crimes that led to A, B, and C, you shouldn't be allowed the use of the honorific of "Gov." anymore. Frankly, you shouldn't be called or use "Governor" once you leave the office, regardless of how you left it. It was never meant to be a title that is carried by a person once they left the office, although you could still call a person "The Honorable" out of respect. Anyone who insists, expects or even allows themselves to continue to be called "Governor" after they are out of office is nothing more than a pompous rear end.
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The X-man cometh posted:Those are a couple hundred kids out of 20 thousand students but it's enough to infect the entire student body. ISU has enough medical experts to know this could happen, they shouldn't have opened in person. My friend is in the school of communication and her basic point was: the university is willfully playing chicken over funding. They're doing everything in their power to ensure science labs and K&R programs can remain open. It's a scummy cash grab by the university. The students are dumb. The people living in the Lodge are especially dumb. The university banks on this even in good times.
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dwarf74 posted:Nah I'm good with calling this a public safety hazard and being angry about the irresponsibility, futile though it is. I just keep seeing young adults being turned into a scapegoat for this. Issue is the adults, particularly older ones, hosed this up for 6 months and now expect 20 year olds to not act like 20 year olds.
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Niwrad posted:I just keep seeing young adults being turned into a scapegoat for this. Issue is the adults, particularly older ones, hosed this up for 6 months and now expect 20 year olds to not act like 20 year olds. they're also the ones telling them, very clearly, that having thousands of people coming back to campus and going to in-person classes is perfectly fine. what the gently caress do they expect?? it's been the same game in Illinois for months now: political leaders open things up, signaling to everyone that it's ok to go to indoor dining, bars, events, etc. Then when people, especially younger people, go do these things and cases increase, these same leaders wag their fingers and scold. But, of course, they don't actually close these places back down!
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brugroffil posted:Politicians and leaders have failed over and over and over again. Their only response at this point is to open bars and then yell at people for going to them. We were never going to be like New Zealand. We can't exactly close our borders to Indianans. I have some sympathy for Pritzker because when Illinois is surrounded by other states that are quickly reopening their economy, it puts us in a no win situation. Stay on lockdown and watch an absolute ton of money flow out of the state as people simply drive to IN, WI, MO, or IA to do what they want, and still bring the virus back. Other option is you go to a limited reopening so you can start some of the economy back up, while still being stricter than the other states.
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Speaking of NW IN, 16% positivity is good, right? https://here.nd.edu/our-approach/dashboard/  loving idiots.
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Banzai 3 posted:Speaking of NW IN, 16% positivity is good, right? Didnt take long. https://twitter.com/DWUhlfelderLaw/status/1295861467913359362 Michigan State closed as well. https://www.npr.org/sections/corona...vid-19-concerns
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Bugsy posted:Didnt take long. Makes sense. ND recorded positivity of 19% and 20% in the two days since my original post. It’s actually a pretty good scam - get all the kids back, cash all the checks, keep them long enough to not allow refunds, and set them to the wind.
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Banzai 3 posted:Makes sense. ND recorded positivity of 19% and 20% in the two days since my original post. It’s actually a pretty good scam - get all the kids back, cash all the checks, keep them long enough to not allow refunds, and set them to the wind. Culture of Life(tm) In better local news, the FDA approved the UIUC spit test. Soon we'll all be hocking into tubes! quote:A new COVID-19 saliva test developed at the University of Illinois was approved by the Food and Drug Administration. But the university won’t say when it’ll be ready for the public. It’s known as SHIELD Illinois.
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Oracle posted:On the plus side, haven't heard of any spikes from UIUC testing yet... students are coming back this whole week, classes next week. They moved everything that can be remote to remote almost. If they enforce all the precautions and such they can pull it off I think. Over the summer I was down there and on campus people were pretty good about the basics of mask wearing and such. Off campus though...oh boy. Aldi and wal-mart should be no gos for the students.
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My daughters 5th grade class is doing a class President campaign. My daughters slogan is “Vote for me, I will give you candy!” There are already multiple parents bragging about their “Make 5th grade Great Again” slogan that their “kid” came up with. I also started to watch a doctor from Vandalia make a video where he was going to reveal the truth about hydroxichloriquine and explain his thoughts on mask but first, he had to talk about masks and “criminality”. His first line was literally talking about Antifa and “riots” in cities like Chicago. I could not make it any further.
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https://chicago.suntimes.com/politics/2020/8/21/21395850/jeffrey-tobolski-charged-extortion-conspiracy-cook-county-commissioner-mccook-mayor Looks like Tobolski's sunk. The MAX in McCook is pretty nice though, so totally worth it.
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Wow thanks ISU and IWU administration and blood-sucking leasing companies. Our positivity was under 2% like a week ago and now we've got over 400 in home isolation. (Many of whom got it from parties and frankly will probably not self isolate very well at all.) 
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thank u JB for opening'r up! https://twitter.com/capitolfax/status/1297955278902747137
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Hey, Champaign-Urbana! Guess what two weeks into your future looks like!
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Sarcastro posted:Hey, Champaign-Urbana! Guess what two weeks into your future looks like! They’re posting university test data on their COVID website now. (Scroll down to the bottom and click the link). 300 positives in the first week. Those people are all arrival positives (or staff I guess) who were presumably taken out of circulation before they could party it up and infect more people. Guess we’ll see what happens after the party weekend. Over the past week the university accounted for 1-2% of the entire country’s testing.
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Sarcastro posted:Hey, Champaign-Urbana! Guess what two weeks into your future looks like! Then again it may make students feel more invincible and be seen as a green light for giant parties so who knows.
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