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MrMojok
Jan 28, 2011


"I have magical authority", Jesus loving Christ.

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Internet Wizard
Aug 9, 2009

BANDAIDS DON'T FIX BULLET HOLES

orange juche posted:

So an ex-prostitute is a sex predator? wha? gtfo dude. You do know that prostitutes are on the victim side of the power dynamic right? Or are you one of those "dudes with money have a right to sex" idiots.

Uhhh no dude.

There’s nothing wrong with being a sex worker.

There’s a lot wrong with seducing and drugging men to rob them, and then later claiming the men were aware and consenting.

Madurai
Jun 26, 2012

My grandmother broke with (then-)longstanding family tradition and voted for Herbert Hoover in 1928. And then, none of her relatives or friends allowed her to forget it. Every single person in her life (me included) called her "Herbert" until her death in the Eighties. Like, for a long time I never realized that was not actually her name, or that "Herbert" was normally a male name. I think there needs to be a lot of people being called "Donald" for the rest of their lives.

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



Internet Wizard posted:

Uhhh no dude.

There’s nothing wrong with being a sex worker.

There’s a lot wrong with seducing and drugging men to rob them, and then later claiming the men were aware and consenting.

Still seeing nothing wrong with robbing rich johns. gently caress them for incentivizing human trafficking.

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns
UNC Chapel Hill officially closed. They lasted a week before their COVID positive percentage hit 12%.

https://twitter.com/TarheelSoup/status/1295337202495426560?s=19

https://twitter.com/gregpmiller/status/1295450212530520065?s=19

Internet Wizard
Aug 9, 2009

BANDAIDS DON'T FIX BULLET HOLES

orange juche posted:

Still seeing nothing wrong with robbing rich johns. gently caress them for incentivizing human trafficking.

Because you’re ignoring the part where she defended what she did by saying the men were “willing” and “aware” after she drugged them.

quote:

In her Instagram post, Cardi seems to acknowledge that the stories she talked about in the old video were true — although she also adds that the men in question “were men that I dated that I was involve with men that were conscious willing and aware.” It’s not entirely clear whether or not Cardi means to say that she did not actually drug anyone, or whether she’s saying that she did drug people — but only men she was romantically involved with.


https://www.vox.com/culture/2019/3/27/18284220/cardi-b-drug-rob-controversy-scandal


I’ll break it down for you Barney style. You can’t “willing” and “aware” if you’ve been drugged, and claiming so afterwards just shows how predatory she was and how she doesn’t own her past actions.

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



Internet Wizard posted:

Because you’re ignoring the part where she defended what she did by saying the men were “willing” and “aware” after she drugged them.



https://www.vox.com/culture/2019/3/27/18284220/cardi-b-drug-rob-controversy-scandal


I’ll break it down for you Barney style. You can’t “willing” and “aware” if you’ve been drugged, and claiming so afterwards just shows how predatory she was and how she doesn’t own her past actions.

She didn't slip roofies in their drink at the club and then take their cash, she stole their money when they thought they were going to get some tail from a woman who was hard up for money to put food on the table and keep a roof over her head. When you're poor like that you do what you need to do to survive.

They were willing and aware that they were gonna get some tail. What they got was an empty wallet and no tail.

I mean, I'd love to see the police report for that, "I propositioned a stripper for sex in exchange for cash(which is illegal), and then when we went to the hotel room, she drugged my drink and stole my wallet!"

Gotta say though, she's quite lucky she didn't get shot by a vengeful dude after he woke up.

What she was doing was literally turning the table on them, because they thought that they would take advantage of her because she was a poor girl who was dancing for tips.

orange juche fucked around with this message at 21:37 on Aug 17, 2020

Fister Roboto
Feb 21, 2008

You're technically correct but I definitely wouldn't call her a sexual predator for it. Using sex to take advantage of people is a world of difference from taking advantage of people for sex.

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



My god, Phoenix really is a monument to man's arrogance, its projected high temperatures all week are between 113F and 115F (about 46C for people who don't use the King's measurements)

Why doesn't the US move to metric and SI units for fucks sake.

Wingnut Ninja
Jan 11, 2003

Mostly Harmless

orange juche posted:

My god, Phoenix really is a monument to man's arrogance, its projected high temperatures all week are between 113F and 115F (about 46C for people who don't use the King's measurements)

Why doesn't the US move to metric and SI units for fucks sake.

We reduced poverty by redefining the poverty level, so I'm actually a little surprised we haven't solved global warming by moving to celsius. Numbers go down!

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?

orange juche posted:

My god, Phoenix really is a monument to man's arrogance, its projected high temperatures all week are between 113F and 115F (about 46C for people who don't use the King's measurements)

Why doesn't the US move to metric and SI units for fucks sake.

Same here. I just spent fifteen minutes outside and I want to take a nap.

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



Godholio posted:

Same here. I just spent fifteen minutes outside and I want to take a nap.

The city flag is pretty neat though

Only registered members can see post attachments!

Richard Bong
Dec 11, 2008

orange juche posted:

Why doesn't the US move to metric and SI units for fucks sake.

I want this so badly. Why do we have to use the worlds most convoluted measurement system that nobody else uses?

Especially since if you’re a vet you get a taste of how simple it is to use. It’s multiplier is in the drat name at all times. Just move the decimal point.

Highway speeds? 100km/hr
City speed limits? 50km/hr
Water’s Boiling point? 100C
Water’s freezing point? 0C
Small measurements? No loving fractions because we have millimeters. Also no 13/16 and 7/64 sockets or some poo poo.
Dick measurements? Bigger numbers because it’s in centimeters
Liquid? So simple you can properly mix a drink while drunk


What’s the US alternative?
How many feet are in that quarter mile? Idk better get google and a calculator ready
How hot to get water to boil? 212F for some reason.
Freezing temps? Partially positive partially negative because reasons.
Is that socket bigger or smaller? Idk give me a sec to find a common denominator
Dick measurements? A measly 6 instead of 15.24 even small dick measurements sound cool in metric. 4 inches is 10.16cm
Liquid? How many ounces are in that gallon? Better hope it says it on the label. Also are those fluid oz or not?

gently caress the US systems of measurements.

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

facialimpediment posted:

UNC Chapel Hill officially closed. They lasted a week before their COVID positive percentage hit 12%.

https://twitter.com/TarheelSoup/status/1295337202495426560?s=19

https://twitter.com/gregpmiller/status/1295450212530520065?s=19

Thanks for seeding covid into a bunch of families across the country because “we had to try”

Hekk
Oct 12, 2012

'smeper fi

I am sure this had nothing to do with justifying tuition fees not being reduced because schools were moving to online classes.

Comrade Blyatlov
Aug 4, 2007


should have picked four fingers





Stop dunking on us, Trump :(

https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/heal...n-covid19-cases

Kazinsal
Dec 13, 2011

orange juche posted:

Why doesn't the US move to metric and SI units for fucks sake.

Anyone around 25 or older in Canada is used to a mix of both and as your northern neighbour constantly living in terror of being annexed it's pretty handy. We tend to use feet and inches and pounds for measuring height and weight of people, and teaspoons/tablespoons/cups for cooking measurements. Most printed measurements end up being displayed in both metric and customary units but everyone knows metric and most people know the important conversions.

About half of the Vancouver region uses a number-based naming system for streets running along cardinal directions where every 8 streets is one mile, and so if you're going from, say, 200th and 96th to 176th and 56th, you know you've gone about 8 miles. I think Seattle uses a similar system but it's every 16 streets is a mile.

MRC48B
Apr 2, 2012

Thats not a dunk by any definition of the phrase.

It's another self-own at best, because we are going to break 175k by the end of the week.

Comrade Blyatlov
Aug 4, 2007


should have picked four fingers





MRC48B posted:

Thats not a dunk by any definition of the phrase.

It's another self-own at best, because we are going to break 175k by the end of the week.

:thejoke:

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012




Don't pay any attention to anything our big wet president says.

Slim Pickens
Jan 12, 2007

Grimey Drawer
295k deaths by December 1st, our response to this poo poo has been stellar

https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-states-of-america

Grip it and rip it
Apr 28, 2020

orange juche posted:

So we're going to head into another "Gee shucks we just wanna work across the aisle" cycle of the Democrats stepping on rakes legislatively while Republicans are actively wrecking the country from the minority position.

What exactly are you describing here? Is this what you thought the Obama administration was?

pantslesswithwolves
Oct 28, 2008


Somewhere a chud is struggling to remember how to calculate ratios in a feeble attempt to prove that per capita cases of COVID are higher in NZ than they are in the US, thus proving that America still more betterer under Trump than New Zealand is with socialist lady

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

If you compare the rates of infection in island-dwelling sheep farmers then the US looks way better

McNally
Sep 13, 2007

Ask me about Proposition 305


Do you like muskets?

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

Finally got a haircut today after I think six months. Thanks to my COVID beard I was able to ask for the Ulysses S. Grant look.

Speaking of, hey McNally, you know a good way to get a U.S. Grant costume together without spending a ton of cash on reenactment grade stuff?

Honestly? Not really. Even going with trash-tier CW uniforms you're looking at something like $300 for coat, waistcoat, and trousers.

That doesn't include hat and boots.

The good news is that Grant tended to eschew the fancy uniforms appropriate to a man of his rank (a double-breasted frock coat with velvet collar and cuffs, two rows of nine buttons each in groups of three) in favor of a private's issue jacket with his rank on the shoulders. The man was pretty utilitarian where his appearance was concerned.

Kesper North
Nov 3, 2011

EMERGENCY POWER TO PARTY

Grip it and rip it posted:

Eloi Jenkinnnnnnsssss

This post didn't get enough love

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



Grip it and rip it posted:

What exactly are you describing here? Is this what you thought the Obama administration was?

I mean that's what the Obama administration was, Democrats at the federal level trying to compromise with Republicans by abandoning progressive positions, and Republicans saying "gently caress you and the horse you rode in on" while dropping racist dogwhistles as well as drumming up support at the local level to take over state legislatures and governorships, gerrymander, and pack the circuit courts with conservative judges.

Yes, that is precisely what I'm describing.

Democrats need to capture enough seats that they can ignore the Republican members of congress, and ram through stuff that allows them to actually govern without fear of being held up by conservatives trying to block poo poo, i.e. getting rid of the legislative filibuster so that they can proceed with votes without needing 66 people in Congress to end the filibuster.

Right now, Republicans are still able to control legislature as a minority party in the Senate by simply hopping up on the podium and reading Green Eggs and Ham, for as long as they want. (they're currently a majority, but that's exactly what they did when Obama and the Democrats controlled the Senate and House during his presidency)

orange juche fucked around with this message at 00:30 on Aug 18, 2020

Xenoborg
Mar 10, 2007

pantslesswithwolves posted:

Somewhere a chud is struggling to remember how to calculate ratios in a feeble attempt to prove that per capita cases of COVID are higher in NZ than they are in the US, thus proving that America still more betterer under Trump than New Zealand is with socialist lady

From 0 to 9 cases? Infinity day over day percent increase!

stealie72
Jan 10, 2007

orange juche posted:

I mean that's what the Obama administration was, Democrats at the federal level trying to compromise with Republicans by abandoning progressive positions, and Republicans saying "gently caress you and the horse you rode in on" while dropping racist dogwhistles as well as drumming up support at the local level to take over state legislatures and governorships, gerrymander, and pack the circuit courts with conservative judges.

Yes, that is precisely what I'm describing.

Democrats need to capture enough seats that they can ignore the Republican members of congress, and ram through stuff that allows them to actually govern without fear of being held up by conservatives trying to block poo poo, i.e. getting rid of the legislative filibuster so that they can proceed with votes without needing 66 people in Congress to end the filibuster.

Right now, Republicans are still able to control legislature as a minority party in the Senate by simply hopping up on the podium and reading Green Eggs and Ham, for as long as they want. (they're currently a majority, but that's exactly what they did when Obama and the Democrats controlled the Senate and House during his presidency)
Tl;dr: Democrats need to produce an equal and opposite ratfucking to save the republic.

Based on the history of the last generation, they will not do this.

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns

orange juche posted:

I mean that's what the Obama administration was, Democrats at the federal level trying to compromise with Republicans by abandoning progressive positions, and Republicans saying "gently caress you and the horse you rode in on" while dropping racist dogwhistles as well as drumming up support at the local level to take over state legislatures and governorships, gerrymander, and pack the circuit courts with conservative judges.

Yes, that is precisely what I'm describing.

The one major quibble I have with your righteous anger is that the Democratic Party of 2009 isn't the Democratic Party of 2020. The 2009 Democrats were much, much more conservative than they are now. Pelosi had to absolutely slam the ACA through the House, and got it through 220–215, with THIRTY NINE Democrats voting against it. Her majority had a fuckton of those Blue Dog conservative Democrats at the time and they were adamant that they wanted Republican buy-in. I would argue that if that particular bill got more liberal, needing the death of the filibuster in the Senate, Pelosi would've lost too many members in the House to make any use of it.

So it wasn't really 2009 Democrats abandoning progressive positions. They never had the progressive positions to begin with. Then their stupid Blue Dog weenie-ism led to their collective extinction in 2010 and onwards because BLACK MAN BAD. There's still a bit of Blue Dog-ism in the "Majority Makers" of the 2020 House Democrats, but their numbers are not even close to 2009 and they're way more liberal than the Blue Dogs were.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

orange juche posted:

Right now, Republicans are still able to control legislature as a minority party in the Senate by simply hopping up on the podium and reading Green Eggs and Ham, for as long as they want. (they're currently a majority, but that's exactly what they did when Obama and the Democrats controlled the Senate and House during his presidency)

Nah they didn’t even have to do that. They could just yell “I declare filibuster!” and the Democrats folded.

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur

Richard Bong posted:



What’s the US alternative?
How many feet are in that quarter mile? Idk better get google and a calculator ready
How hot to get water to boil? 212F for some reason.
Freezing temps? Partially positive partially negative because reasons.
Is that socket bigger or smaller? Idk give me a sec to find a common denominator
Dick measurements? A measly 6 instead of 15.24 even small dick measurements sound cool in metric. 4 inches is 10.16cm
Liquid? How many ounces are in that gallon? Better hope it says it on the label. Also are those fluid oz or not?

gently caress the US systems of measurements.

gently caress them, indeed, but that's like grade school memorization poo poo. Or it used to be, before all kids everywhere had cell phones and google. But also, blame the british for standard measurements, blame us for not moving on when metric came around.

Also dick measurements should be in millimeters for truly spectacular dick number.

Prop Wash
Jun 12, 2010



facialimpediment posted:

UNC Chapel Hill officially closed. They lasted a week before their COVID positive percentage hit 12%.

https://twitter.com/TarheelSoup/status/1295337202495426560?s=19

https://twitter.com/gregpmiller/status/1295450212530520065?s=19

https://www.northcarolina.edu/news/unc-system-president-issues-statement-on-fall-semester/

quote:

August 17, 2020

CHAPEL HILL, NC – University of North Carolina System President Peter Hans issued a statement following the announcement that UNC-Chapel Hill would be modifying operations for the fall semester:

“The decision to adapt operations applies to UNC-Chapel Hill only, because no other UNC System institution has reported information, at this time, that would lead to similar modifications."

note: some UNC system schools have yet to open up

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy



imo because https://twitter.com/eddy_sarah/status/1295466287540383744

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns

That Works posted:

imo because

Yeah it's all money-based, just with varying themes. There's a lot of speculation that the pro sports leagues (that can't bubble) have insurance policies that pay out if the seasons shut down, but they need to at least run games to get the insurance payout when they shut down.

One interesting thing is that there's apparently no central database that reports out schools' COVID cases state-by-state. That's why these numbers were suddenly a surprise to me:

https://twitter.com/ashtonpittman/status/1295462052757221378

And the governor is all like HELL YEAH DIAL ME UP SOME COLLEGE FOOTBALL

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



facialimpediment posted:

The one major quibble I have with your righteous anger is that the Democratic Party of 2009 isn't the Democratic Party of 2020. The 2009 Democrats were much, much more conservative than they are now. Pelosi had to absolutely slam the ACA through the House, and got it through 220–215, with THIRTY NINE Democrats voting against it. Her majority had a fuckton of those Blue Dog conservative Democrats at the time and they were adamant that they wanted Republican buy-in. I would argue that if that particular bill got more liberal, needing the death of the filibuster in the Senate, Pelosi would've lost too many members in the House to make any use of it.

So it wasn't really 2009 Democrats abandoning progressive positions. They never had the progressive positions to begin with. Then their stupid Blue Dog weenie-ism led to their collective extinction in 2010 and onwards because BLACK MAN BAD. There's still a bit of Blue Dog-ism in the "Majority Makers" of the 2020 House Democrats, but their numbers are not even close to 2009 and they're way more liberal than the Blue Dogs were.

I won't hold my breath on Blue Dogs deciding to help the rest of the Democratic party kneecap the Republicans. There's still 26 of them in the House, also, the Republican party is clogged up with Trump bootlickers, so the Blue Dog Coalition will have plenty of fresh blood (Never-Trumpers) for collective "hmmmm"-ing about whether or not to allow Black people to vote.

orange juche fucked around with this message at 01:57 on Aug 18, 2020

Proud Christian Mom
Dec 20, 2006
READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD
The Obama admin folded from the get go because they just could not believe that the GOP would not work with them and they huffed their farts so loving hard that right until Trump was sworn in they thought that gently leaning on the levers of power would bring them to the table where they could all cut Social Security bipartisanly.

Crazy Mike
Sep 16, 2005

Now with 25% more kimchee.

MrMojok posted:

Never, ever forget this. They have known full well what Trump was, longer than the general public has. They knew what he was, when they voted to acquit. They knew the types of things he was likely to do, and they don't get to try and distance themselves from Trump now, or ever.

Their Trump-enabling should be used as a bludgeon to crack their skulls every single day for the rest of their lives.

After the Trump acquittal I was wondering if any of you history buffs could tell me... Did President Nixon give up too early? If he was impeached would Senate republicans protect him with the same blindness that Trump was protected? Even without the virus shutdown, it's surprising the Republicans would rather hang on to an unpredictable and in over his head president that will likely lose reelection, than find a way to get him out of the picture and put their faith in President Pence to not gently caress things up so stupidly and visibly.

Ardlen
Sep 30, 2005
WoT



Some of was bad timing; the impeachment trial ended at the beginning of February and COVID didn't hit the US hard until March. Most Republicans are more worried about getting primaried then the general election because of gerrymandering and impeachment would have definitely gotten them primary challenges.

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joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

I am the master of my lamp;
I am the captain of my tub.

Crazy Mike posted:

After the Trump acquittal I was wondering if any of you history buffs could tell me... Did President Nixon give up too early? If he was impeached would Senate republicans protect him with the same blindness that Trump was protected?
It was the Senate Republicans who went and told Nixon he was hosed.

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