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Aug 18, 2020 08:39
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TURGID TOMFOOLERY posted:Why did Horus go evil and betray the family? Stabbed with a rusty fork
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Aug 18, 2020 08:46
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Funzo posted:I don’t know how I never noticed that the ejection port on a bolter doesn’t line up with the barrel at all. I mean, I knew the design didn’t make any sense, but I didn’t realize how much. darnon posted:Plenty of real guns eject and feed in all sorts of weird orientations. Behold, the Kel-tec RFB forward facing ejection port. 
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Aug 18, 2020 09:26
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Stephenls posted:Amazing reference shots Really appreciate you sharing this. It looks like all we really need for a full 'modern' lineup of marine types is a modern Tactical Kit the same size as the Deathwatch Kill Team, and then modern versions of the Noise and Berzerker marines. Man I'd be excited to see what they do with those 2 chaos kits based on how amazing the Plague marines are. Do you have a Grey Knight? I Primaris-ed mine with GK Terminator legs, but that adds up quickly - it does give them just enough up a step up to not look out of place next to Primaris though.
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Aug 18, 2020 09:28
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Tommunist posted:Stabbed with a rusty fork Rusty fork plot line really chapped my rear end. They already had Horus doing an emo "it's too much!" shout at the sky in Horus Rising. Just have him turn on his own. Imperium: Chaos has tainted our most beloved son and turned him! Chaos: Nah, this is all him and his daddy issues.
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Aug 18, 2020 09:29
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notaspy posted:Wicked, ty for this. The 2 missing primarchs are a sort of lore hangover from the old days of 40k, when the idea was to leave some room for players to create their own custom space marines without having to make them descendants of one of the canonical 18 legions. They were also put in as a reference to the Roman legions lost at the Battle of the Teutoberg Forest, because in case it isn't obvious 40k was written by history nerds and the entire thing is basically Roman Catholicism Plus A Bunch Of Real Life Historical Events, In Space. edit: quote:Him and Angron, but Angron is too dumb to be mad at. edit: also I think one of the original 40k writers is on record as saying that "Roboute Guilliman" was supposed to sound like a Caribbean revolutionary. So kind of weird that he ended up as Space Caesar instead of Space Papa Doc Duvalier. Zephro fucked around with this message at 10:01 on Aug 18, 2020 |
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Aug 18, 2020 09:49
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I'm painting my Marines as Imperial Fists, and turns out that was a bad call because GW likes to pretend chapters that aren't Ultramarines, Blood Angels, Dark Angels and Space Wolves don't exist: absolutely no transfers or anything like it in any recent box. So I ordered the expensive A4 transfer sheet from Forgeworld, and that turned out to be a good thing because it'll last me for quite some time. Except the squad markings (tactical squad, assault squad, devastator squad etc) that were advertised to be on the sheet are knee pad sized, not shoulder pad sized. From what I can tell, Imperial Fists squads do have the squad markings on their right shoulder pad, and they're in black, so I can't even reuse the white Ultramarine symbols from those transfer sheets. So, short of free handing all the markings (which I suck at), does anyone have any good ideas? I was thinking of making reusable stencils out of Green Stuff or something, but that's not super simple either.
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Aug 18, 2020 10:04
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Der Shovel posted:I'm painting my Marines as Imperial Fists, and turns out that was a bad call because GW likes to pretend chapters that aren't Ultramarines, Blood Angels, Dark Angels and Space Wolves don't exist: absolutely no transfers or anything like it in any recent box. I thought there was an upgrade sprue that they made that had shoulder pads with the details and markings raised. Would that work? I forgot if the upgrade sprue had squad markings though.
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Aug 18, 2020 10:26
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IncredibleIgloo posted:I thought there was an upgrade sprue that they made that had shoulder pads with the details and markings raised. Would that work? I forgot if the upgrade sprue had squad markings though. There is yeah, but it's like 25€ for 10 of each squad type marking etc, so it's a last resort. I'm very well covered for fists of various sizes, Black Templar crosses, VII symbols and all that good stuff. I just need the squad arrows and crosses 
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Aug 18, 2020 10:55
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I'm actually surprised how hard it is to find transfer sheets with black tactical squad markings. I was sure it'd be easy but I can't find jack. But hey, at least squad markings are the easiest thing in the world to free hand.
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Aug 18, 2020 11:03
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I saw a guy talking about making a green stuff mould and painting the symbol on the inside of it so he could “potato print” it onto the shoulder pads then touch it up by hand. Can’t remember where I saw it so don’t know if it worked, but worth a try maybe?
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Aug 18, 2020 11:09
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Tommunist posted:Stabbed with a rusty fork This was one of the dumbest plot twists in literary history.
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Aug 18, 2020 11:21
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Sanford posted:I saw a guy talking about making a green stuff mould and painting the symbol on the inside of it so he could “potato print” it onto the shoulder pads then touch it up by hand. Can’t remember where I saw it so don’t know if it worked, but worth a try maybe? That's not a terrible idea! I'll check it out!
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Aug 18, 2020 11:38
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Stephenls posted:
This is awesome, thanks. I did some list writing last night and realised the Start Collecting box set plus a Keeper of Secrets is about 1,000 points (assuming Chaos Space Marines don't get a new codex or anything so their points increase). So I'm going to get the box set and see if I can get a second hand keeper of secrets off ebay or something, and have that as a 1,000 point list. Not sure whether I'll expand it hugely from there but it's only 13 models plus a vehicle plus a greater daemon, and it will look good on display. Tommunist posted:Stabbed with a rusty fork Lol sad but true. Der Shovel posted:
You put the white transfers on the shoulder pads, and then paint over them, using them as guides, to help you free hand the black symbols. Honestly though with a little practice the only symbol that I've struggled with is the Fast Attack/Close Support symbol. The arrows are relatively easy and the heavy support symbol isn't hard either. I'd rather just spend the time to paint them then try and gently caress around with transfers. Kitchner fucked around with this message at 11:46 on Aug 18, 2020 |
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Aug 18, 2020 11:43
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Kitchner posted:You put the white transfers on the shoulder pads, and then paint over them, using them as guides, to help you free hand the black symbols. Dang, this is probably the best idea so far. I guess it's time to start practising free handing!
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Aug 18, 2020 12:07
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Stephenls posted:
All of this was neat, but this part was the most interesting. It hadn't occurred to me that the scarab occult terminators were based off a different type of terminator armor than standard.
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Aug 18, 2020 12:17
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Der Shovel posted:Dang, this is probably the best idea so far. I guess it's time to start practising free handing! If you're just painting on tactical symbols I honestly think if you are using pretty thinned paints (which you need you use for free handing anyway) if you just tried to paint them from scratch you'd be able to do it well by the time you've done your first ten models. I mean sure it won't look as super straight cut as the transfers, but nothing will. The other alternative is if you own a printer to buy decal paper and literally print out your own transfers.
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Aug 18, 2020 12:20
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For chapter and squad icons,, there's also the option to use separate 3d printed icons to the shoulderpad. This is the method I opted for, and I paint and highlight them separately and just stick them on to the painted shoulder pad with white glue at the end of the painting process. I got a mix from these two sellers on shapeways: https://www.shapeways.com/shops/martilloycola https://popgoesthemonkey.com/collections/insignia Examples of what they look like in action:  
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Aug 18, 2020 13:38
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I haven't use these, but this guy makes a bunch of faction specific and generic transfers that may interest people. https://www.themightybrush.com/product-category/waterslide-transfers-decals/
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Aug 18, 2020 14:46
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It's nice to see GW stepping it up in terms of doing good poo poo! Also probably something a lot of people here would love to be able to buy https://twitter.com/GamesWerkshop/status/1295718616583868416
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Aug 18, 2020 14:50
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Mango Polo posted:It's nice to see GW stepping it up in terms of doing good poo poo! That's a fake account dude.
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Aug 18, 2020 15:00
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Oh yeah, that account still exist.Kitchner posted:That's a fake account dude. Here we go again. 
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Aug 18, 2020 15:01
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Thanqol posted:This was one of the dumbest plot twists in literary history. Wasn't him getting hurt and being chirped by the lodges a long standing part of the lore? I know it was there in 3rd when I started.
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Aug 18, 2020 15:07
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Ok wtf happened with a fork?
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Aug 18, 2020 15:15
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The HH books weren't supposed to last this long so Horus's's big turn is getting stabbed then unstabbed
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Aug 18, 2020 15:21
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Stephenls posted:Start Collecting! Chaos Space Marines is a really good box. Monopose, but it's a full sprue and a half-sprue so nothing repeats, and none of the poses are duplicated in the Chaos Space Marines multipose box. It's what I used to start my Night Lords (even if admittedly none of them feel particularly Night Lord-y). Then I threw on a Maulerfiend and some Warp Talons and poof, 1K.
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Aug 18, 2020 15:24
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moths posted:Ok wtf happened with a fork? Erebus stole an evil magic sword(presumably fork shaped) and gave it to some nurgle corrupted guy who rebelled against the Imperium. Horus shows up and gets poisoned by the sword, everyone thinks he's going to die. Erebus conveniently points out some shamans nearby can save him. They do a magic ritual that shows Horus spooky visions and he comes out eeevil.
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Aug 18, 2020 15:29
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moths posted:It's dumb, but Land Rover was clearly the inspiration for the Land Raider so they just rolled the joke over. There was a vehicle in Judge Dredd's Cursed Earth Saga called the Land Raider that looks pretty much exactly like the GW one. Funzo posted:I don’t know how I never noticed that the ejection port on a bolter doesn’t line up with the barrel at all. I mean, I knew the design didn’t make any sense, but I didn’t realize how much. Even better when you realize that in fluff, Bolters were supposed to use caseless ammo. Not sure if that's still the case, but it was always a point of conversation among gun nerds when I first started playing.
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Aug 18, 2020 15:29
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Eschatos posted:Erebus stole an evil magic sword(presumably fork shaped) and gave it to some nurgle corrupted guy who rebelled against the Imperium. Horus shows up and gets poisoned by the sword, everyone thinks he's going to die. Erebus conveniently points out some shamans nearby can save him. They do a magic ritual that shows Horus spooky visions and he comes out eeevil. Wait is this different than when that lapdog of the Emperor (was is Rogal Dorn or one of his men or something?) took the Emperor's spear and went and stabbed Horus? How many times is this dude gonna get stabbed
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Aug 18, 2020 15:33
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EdsTeioh posted:There was a vehicle in Judge Dredd's Cursed Earth Saga called the Land Raider that looks pretty much exactly like the GW one.  I had to look this up, and yep that's pretty much the LR Spartan. The front section separates, and then the back looks much more like a traditional one. 40k wasn't at all shy when it came to borrowing. I suspect Force Swords were originally intended to be lightsabers, because they use the force.
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Aug 18, 2020 15:34
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NUMBER 1 FULCI FAN posted:Wait is this different than when that lapdog of the Emperor (was is Rogal Dorn or one of his men or something?) took the Emperor's spear and went and stabbed Horus? Horus is stabbed by the rusty fork first, then stabbed by the Emperor's Spear by Leman Russ, then stabbed with a psychic lance by the Emperor. It's like his thing.
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Aug 18, 2020 15:39
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NUMBER 1 FULCI FAN posted:Wait is this different than when that lapdog of the Emperor (was is Rogal Dorn or one of his men or something?) took the Emperor's spear and went and stabbed Horus? Yes it is different. That guy stabs Horus later on during the heresy, allegedly leaving a weak point in the armor or something. Horus really is the least interesting of all the traitor primarchs. My vote is Magnus or Logar as most interesting.
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Aug 18, 2020 15:40
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Mango Polo posted:It's nice to see GW stepping it up in terms of doing good poo poo! This is great. Thanks for letting us know.
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Aug 18, 2020 15:44
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moths posted:
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Aug 18, 2020 15:50
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Legendary Ptarmigan posted:For chapter and squad icons,, there's also the option to use separate 3d printed icons to the shoulderpad. This is the method I opted for, and I paint and highlight them separately and just stick them on to the painted shoulder pad with white glue at the end of the painting process. Oh neat! I got one of those starter sets and decided on Blood Ravens, still not sure on what to do with the Necrons, or really any of it but will see how it goes
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Aug 18, 2020 15:53
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Der Shovel posted:I'm painting my Marines as Imperial Fists, and turns out that was a bad call because GW likes to pretend chapters that aren't Ultramarines, Blood Angels, Dark Angels and Space Wolves don't exist: absolutely no transfers or anything like it in any recent box. I used Chapter Customizer for my new chapter. https://www.chaptercustomizer.com/ They have a page of decals that's just squad markings, and can be ordered in black or white.
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Aug 18, 2020 15:57
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Is there any decent material written to explore the alternate history of the Dornian Heresy? For some reason I want to read about this idea. I guess I’m doubling down on being a contrarian grognard in refusing to read poorly written BL novels about the actual heresy by choosing to read even worse written fan fiction about some other piece of nonsense.
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Aug 18, 2020 16:43
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ineptmule posted:Is there any decent material written to explore the alternate history of the Dornian Heresy? Bolter & Chainsword wrote up backgrounds for several of the chapters, but I'm not aware of any sort of extensive fiction.
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Aug 18, 2020 17:01
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Coldbird posted:As I understand it, Rogue Trader itself was created because GW lost the license to make Judge Dredd minis and they wanted to keep making proxies. I've heard that also, but the timeline doesn't line up. RT came out in '87 and GW was still putting out Dredd stuff as late as 89.
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Aug 18, 2020 17:31
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I know this question usually comes down to "depends on how your opponent/FLGS/Tournament organizer feels" but what are people's thoughts on using AoS Kairic acolytes as Thousand Sons chaos cultists or Tzaangors? I know they have a different sized base than chaos cultists, but I believe they and the Tzaangors use 32mm bases. I like the idea of using the acolytes as limited to non-mutated Tzaangors. I know an image of them show up as cultists in the Thousand Sons book, but unless I squeeze them onto smaller bases, don't want to model for advantage.
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Aug 18, 2020 18:00
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