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Toebone posted:Nice Pete was taking Philippe to the ice cream shop to have some ice cream
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Ray's family is more middle class, I think. His mom's clearly doing well (she can afford those little league sodas!) but she's not a millionaire.
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Android Blues posted:Ray's family is more middle class, I think. His mom's clearly doing well (she can afford those little league sodas!) but she's not a millionaire. Okay, Mitt Romney. Yeah, Ray is middle class, sure.
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Aug 21, 2020 15:50
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Oh, neat! Fifty bucks!
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Johnny Aztec posted:Okay, Mitt Romney. Yeah, Ray is middle class, sure. Until he gets his money, he is not presented as being that much better off then the other characters. He and roast beef are on pretty even footing initially, beef is always employed at what seems to be a decent tech job in cali so as of the start of the strip he has climbed out of poverty, he just had not mentally done so. The only thing is what Ray does for cash, where maybe he is just living off a stipend from mom.
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Aug 21, 2020 16:05
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Johnny Aztec posted:Okay, Mitt Romney. Yeah, Ray is middle class, sure. I see where that's coming from, actually. They wouldn't be anymore, but to me, too, Ray's family before Ray getting ultra-rich looks to me like the mid-century ideal of "middle class." Homeowners with enough disposable income that the kid gets whatever he wants and has a leg up when he hits adulthood, but he still goes to the same schools and participates in the same stuff as Roast Beef does. Adult Ray has made more money and is even better off, but before the record cash comes in, he's fancy in the "monogrammed towels from Wayfair" way, not yet the "millionaire" way.
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Aug 21, 2020 16:15
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You need to pay attention. Ray's mom was able to afford hiring a magician for his birthday party AND buy Bonkers T Quackers off the magician after it bit Pat, just so Ray could eat him that night with steak fries. Ray wore Vuarnets the time Beef landed on his nuts and got his vas deferens all swole up like an angry little plum Ray's always been rich, but after a point he started living off his music royalties for writing 'rear end in your Pants' after getting the magical piano from the devil for his soul. Beef's always been unemployed to a point lol at the idea of beef getting up let alone being able to make it to a desk in a "decent tech job in cali " Beef and Teodor Mr Bear and Todd and most of the other guys from time to time live off getting money off Ray by some means, and it's fine. It's okay.
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disaster pastor posted:I see where that's coming from, actually. They wouldn't be anymore, but to me, too, Ray's family before Ray getting ultra-rich looks to me like the mid-century ideal of "middle class." Homeowners with enough disposable income that the kid gets whatever he wants and has a leg up when he hits adulthood, but he still goes to the same schools and participates in the same stuff as Roast Beef does. Adult Ray has made more money and is even better off, but before the record cash comes in, he's fancy in the "monogrammed towels from Wayfair" way, not yet the "millionaire" way. I started to say like, "Achewood's whole reality is rather flowing. In that, the strips, and arcs, exist as part of the whole, but mostly exist in their own reality. You wouldn't have someone so rich as Ray's family, going to the same school as someone from a trailer park." but then I remembered my own childhood, where you had the children of the big name farmers in the area, going to the same school as the dirt poor. Also, yeah, in the beginning, I don't think Ray was supposed to been ultra rich, but the first few years are a bit different.
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Aug 21, 2020 16:30
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I wonder if there's enough schools available to separate children from different economic backgrounds, in the world of the small animals that live human-like lives next to the normal humans.
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Aug 21, 2020 16:33
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hmm, i definitely assumed Ray was Ray-Rich from selling the daguerreotype for six hundred million dollars, and before that, only Kind Of Rich
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Zefiel posted:You need to pay attention. "She ain't gonna call your mom, Beef! My mom would never call 7-11! I think the only store my mom even KNOWS about is Neiman Marcus!"
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davidspackage posted:Oh, neat! Fifty bucks! It looks like you're slipping on money.
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Aug 21, 2020 17:25
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Zefiel posted:You need to pay attention. Beef goes on a drunken rant about how he taught himself how to code and such, and often it cuts to him wearing a tie and shirt, implying he is home from work, since its not like the guy who thinks a black t shirt makes him look like weezer and an imac had a baby is just choosing that outfit.
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Ray's mom doesn't know there are stores besides Neiman Marcus. I want to say Beef's mom sold meth to their piano player.
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Shibawanko posted:he called the cops on a guy whose only crime was to have a bunch of rotating animatronic josephs Honestly don't blame him there, and I say that as someone who's fairly religious in nature and also loves Christmas Also on the topic of how wealthy Ray was before either Devil Piano Skills or Ancient Pornography, as someone who has both a rich parent and a poor parent(and lives with the latter), I'd say Ray was definitely rich growing up, but what I call "lowercase rich" which is where they definitely have a lot of money and normally don't have to worry too much about non business related financial stuff on a day to day basis(assuming no one in the family has a drug/gambling/shopping/plastic surgery addiction), but it's not quite to the point where it becomes "gently caress You Money" and they can just completely ignore the way our society is supposed to work
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Sweaty IT Nerd posted:Ray's mom doesn't know there are stores besides Neiman Marcus. She bought meth from the piano player.
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Aug 21, 2020 18:55
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"where's yours beef" re: the laser sculpted model car that he knew his friend couldn't afford
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Shibawanko posted:"where's yours beef" re: the laser sculpted model car that he knew his friend couldn't afford No we saw Roast Beef try and make one and gently caress it up and throw it away, it wasn't supposed to be a money thing really
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JethroMcB posted:She bought meth from the piano player. Dang. It seemed like hubris when I typed it.
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I think if Ray didn't know/live with Beef he'd be a lot more insufferable slash have vanished up his own dollar-bill-lined-rear end in a top hat. Beef, for Ray, is like the guy that rode in Caesar's chariot during victory parades going "remember, thou art mortal", only the victory parade is a booze-soaked Berlin sidewalk and the whispering is done via sriracha on a saltine
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drrockso20 posted:No we saw Roast Beef try and make one and gently caress it up and throw it away, it wasn't supposed to be a money thing really That might be a cultural thing - what Beef and Ray were participating in was the Pinewood Derby (or a knockoff), an event usually but not always run through the Cub Scouts (a junior arm of the Boy Scouts Of America) in the US. Participants are given a kit containing a block of wood, four button-like wheels, and four nails to use as axles. The idea is to carve it into a car shape and push it down a ramp - fastest one to the bottom wins the Derby. The kids are supposed to do most of the work themselves, but dads breaking out the power tools to one-up the other fathers is a common feature. So Ray had the sweet dad-made one, while Beef tried to do it the proper way before his Circumstances destroyed that effort. If you aren't familiar with that event, it loses a lot of context.
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It reads to me like Ray was holler rich, in that he had many toys and did not Want or Lack, but was in the realm of "the child of a doctor or the owner of a dealership" during the period of his childhood. By selling his soul to the Devil he became truly Rich, but he retains these values, as well as the grounding of Beef and, to a lesser extent, those other assholes. Ray was, after all, the child of a single mother, as well as possibly having been made to make doodie on the ground by his breeder. Enviable contra Beef -- but perhaps not Pat or Teodor.
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Ray has always been legit rich; he's always lived in his mansion. Remember when Beef said Ray would trap him in the dumbwaiter and make him watch some of his early sex havin'? additionally Ray would hit Beef on the head a lot
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Nessus posted:Ray was, after all, the child of a single mother, as well as possibly having been made to make doodie on the ground by his breeder. Enviable contra Beef -- but perhaps not Pat or Teodor. Yeah. We've seen Ray's mother. Soft and Sheltered, as the day is long.
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Girls like a boy who eats cheese
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KICK BAMA KICK posted:Girls like a boy who eats cheese a boy who practices MODERATION in eating cheese! Too much makes a boy RUDE and RAUNCHY
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Johnny Aztec posted:Yeah. We've seen Ray's mother. Soft and Sheltered, as the day is long. A woman who has opinions regarding the nutritional content of an expensive cut of steak
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It muft sizzle
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Somedays I feel like I'm watching Best of Hot Tub Brawls and somedays I feel like the guy in the diver suit
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Beef took a "me day" and dropped $1303.46 before tip, before 10 am. He might not be rich, but he's got a little money.
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Aug 22, 2020 17:50
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But who amongst us does not budget $1,100 annually for underpants
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Safety Dance posted:Beef took a "me day" and dropped $1303.46 before tip, before 10 am. He might not be rich, but he's got a little money.
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Dude still dropped 150 bones on a two-beer breakfast and some books, in 2003 money. He might sleep on a grody mattress in Grandma K's trailer or in Ray's pool house, but he has some cash
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Safety Dance posted:Dude still dropped 150 bones on a two-beer breakfast and some books, in 2003 money. He might sleep on a grody mattress in Grandma K's trailer or in Ray's pool house, but he has some cash Ray probably pays him an excessive amount of money to handle his tech support needs
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Rays pool house is bigger than alot of peoples main house. And if Beef is dropping 1300 bucks, then he has no right to...well, alot of things. He's loving rich.
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Aug 23, 2020 00:05
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Dropping $1300 on something so wasteful no less Imagine buying two Asahi
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We've seen from the blogs that Cornelius and Teodor (and maybe others too, I forget) make tidy sums exploiting Ray's gambling habits, I wonder if Beef does the same.
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Part of being from Circumstances is you believe that you are incapable of not being in Circumstances so even if Beefy K has accrued significant cash from being near Ray and coding things, he likely still maintains that he is poor.
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I'm fairly sure you can make a neat living just orbiting Ray, remember that huge scanner he bought to scan things with but then forgot? Beef got to resell that. Also the "Original" Trans Am from Knight Rider just rotting away in the yard. And who knows why but there's been multiple stances of thousands of dollars left near or inside the microwave. Or selling him Dennis Quaid "memorabillia" in ebay. Beef's shown to have one or two odd jobs (writing obituaries for child actors lol) but nothing that would require him to 9 to 5 and give us Dilbert-but-Achewood (Talk about the missed opportunities!  ) If dude can't make it to the grocery store, dude's not working a desk outside of Ray's odd entrepreneurial enterprises (I'm sorry I did not know how to make you a mix tape, Roast Beef) and the odd gently caress You friday example panel. His hacking of Yahoo is different that was motivated by Roombas. That said, from these jobs and his modest wants and meager living I wouldn't be surprised if Beef had savings in the thousands yeah, but he's not rich in most definitions of the word.. certainly doesn't have the rear end in a top hat behavior that would come with being rich. Like others have said, his presence probably was a catalyst for Ray to not turn out that much of an rear end in a top hat either.
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Zefiel posted:His hacking of Yahoo is different that was motivated by Roombas. This comic is so beautiful
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