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miniscule12
Jan 8, 2020

HAHA YEAH HE PEED IN HIS OWN MOUTH I'M GONNA KEEP BRINGING IT UP.

There are a lot of people who come 2021 won't understand why things aren't getting better, why their grandparents are dead, and why extreme weather events are now common.

The answers are simple, and will be shoved in their faces. They will reject them, and instead construct an alternative reality where they are the protagonists and two god forces are controlling everything.

They want naruto to be real.

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miniscule12
Jan 8, 2020

HAHA YEAH HE PEED IN HIS OWN MOUTH I'M GONNA KEEP BRINGING IT UP.

Most people are normal, and have already come to the correct conclusion that there are no solutions to these problems and that there is nothing they can do. That is a healthy acceptance. Turns out some people can't handle the apocalypse and go a bit nuts.

Grape
Nov 16, 2017

Happily shilling for China!
Dragonball was right all along.
No one controls anything.
Even the gods are useless fat guys who can die from bug men exploding on them.

Dixie Cretin Seaman
Jan 22, 2008

all hat and one catte
Hot Rope Guy
i have a conspiracy theory that QAnon was started by trump's inner circle to defend against his connections to epstein, as a goon project someone should package it up as secret coded knowledge and drop it on 4chan with heavy implications that it comes from mike pence or jared kushner

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

One thing about q that confuses me is whether people like that attempted vehicular homicide lady would have become violent without the q story to latch onto. It seems like she had been having symptoms of something for a while and that she was acting out as part of a delusion. But I don't hear about people who have delusions or schizotypal thinking getting violent very often. Possibly it's because it doesn't make the news when it's not part of a larger phenomenon, but it seems like a fair number of the people getting violent are mentally ill--and the general wisdom I've always heard about schizophrenia and mania and things like that are that it's very rare for people with untreated disorders like that to become violent or dangerous to other people. Do conspiracy theories cause mentally ill people to become violent when they otherwise wouldn't?

B-Rock452
Jan 6, 2005
:justflu:

Dixie Cretin Seaman posted:

i have a conspiracy theory that QAnon was started by trump's inner circle to defend against his connections to epstein, as a goon project someone should package it up as secret coded knowledge and drop it on 4chan with heavy implications that it comes from mike pence or jared kushner

No way it came from Kushner cause it's actually successful

Spergin Morlock
Aug 8, 2009

Dixie Cretin Seaman posted:

i have a conspiracy theory that QAnon was started by trump's inner circle to defend against his connections to epstein, as a goon project someone should package it up as secret coded knowledge and drop it on 4chan with heavy implications that it comes from mike pence or jared kushner

i feel like its not at all a coincidence that michael flynn's son was one of the main pushers of pizzagate. think the former head of an intelligence agency knows how to run a disinfo op?

Antifa Poltergeist
Jun 3, 2004

"We're not laughing with you, we're laughing at you"



It turns out the internet is the lead poisoning of the 21st century.

miniscule12
Jan 8, 2020

HAHA YEAH HE PEED IN HIS OWN MOUTH I'M GONNA KEEP BRINGING IT UP.

Antifa Poltergeist posted:

It turns out the internet is the lead poisoning of the 21st century.

The internet is more damaging to the human brain that lead lamao.

Should have listened to kojima.

Azathoth
Apr 3, 2001

Antifa Turkeesian posted:

One thing about q that confuses me is whether people like that attempted vehicular homicide lady would have become violent without the q story to latch onto. It seems like she had been having symptoms of something for a while and that she was acting out as part of a delusion. But I don't hear about people who have delusions or schizotypal thinking getting violent very often. Possibly it's because it doesn't make the news when it's not part of a larger phenomenon, but it seems like a fair number of the people getting violent are mentally ill--and the general wisdom I've always heard about schizophrenia and mania and things like that are that it's very rare for people with untreated disorders like that to become violent or dangerous to other people. Do conspiracy theories cause mentally ill people to become violent when they otherwise wouldn't?

I would urge caution in referring to someone like this woman as delusional in the psychiatric sense. Just believing in something really, really stupid and then acting on said beliefs does not make someone delusional necessarily. Way more has to be going on under the hood before it gets anywhere near a diagnosable psychiatric disorder.

A lot of these Qanon attacks are more in line with abortion clinic bombers or religious zealots who carry out terror attacks than someone like, say Herbert Mullin, who killed 13 people to prevent a catastrophic earthquake from plunging California into the ocean.

Dixie Cretin Seaman
Jan 22, 2008

all hat and one catte
Hot Rope Guy

Azathoth posted:

Herbert Mullin, who killed 13 people to prevent a catastrophic earthquake from plunging California into the ocean.

sure, i disagree with his methods, but you can't deny his results!

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Azathoth posted:

I would urge caution in referring to someone like this woman as delusional in the psychiatric sense. Just believing in something really, really stupid and then acting on said beliefs does not make someone delusional necessarily. Way more has to be going on under the hood before it gets anywhere near a diagnosable psychiatric disorder.

A lot of these Qanon attacks are more in line with abortion clinic bombers or religious zealots who carry out terror attacks than someone like, say Herbert Mullin, who killed 13 people to prevent a catastrophic earthquake from plunging California into the ocean.

I mean, never trust a cop, but there's stuff like this in the article:

quote:

Responding police officers reportedly found Fulbright “crying hysterically” and yelling that the driver of the vehicle she attacked “was a pedophile and had kidnapped a girl for human trafficking.” The arresting officer noted that Fulbright seemed “delusional”; her blood alcohol content was recorded as 0.21​ percent—more than double the legal limit in Texas.


quote:

Sydney Molina, a​​ former roommate of Fulbright, said that Fulbright “has a history of mental health issues” that have gone untreated. She added that Fulbright’s family was “super huge” into supporting the president and that Fulbright was “feeding off her own family’s crazy Trump love.” At some point in May, Molina claims to have introduced Fulbright to QAnon.

I guess I'm thinking of that schizophrenic guy who burned down the democratic party office in Texas and the guy who went on the run while filming himself arguing with his kids about getting messages from the radio and using his psychic powers for good. I don't know that delusional is the right word, but they're definitely showing more symptoms of illness along with the q stuff radicalizing them.

Azathoth
Apr 3, 2001

Antifa Turkeesian posted:

I mean, never trust a cop, but there's stuff like this in the article:



I guess I'm thinking of that schizophrenic guy who burned down the democratic party office in Texas and the guy who went on the run while filming himself arguing with his kids about getting messages from the radio and using his psychic powers for good. I don't know that delusional is the right word, but they're definitely showing more symptoms of illness along with the q stuff radicalizing them.

a fair point. i think the part that makes it tough for me is how drunk she was. like, mental health issues or not, I have done some just absolutely delusional poo poo while drunk. fortunately, my delusions have mostly revolved around "I am a good singer and everyone wants to hear me" or "I can totally make that jump".

if anything, some of the q related violence actually points towards a disturbing rationality. that is, once someone accepts that there is a global network of child murdering pedophiles, doing whatever it takes, up to and including murder against traffickers. Not saying its right, just that there's an understandable logic there.

miniscule12
Jan 8, 2020

HAHA YEAH HE PEED IN HIS OWN MOUTH I'M GONNA KEEP BRINGING IT UP.

https://twitter.com/Shayan86/status/1296952400184520704

Oh man imagine if twitter did this 2 years ago.

Imagine if twitter did something 5 years ago.

Spergin Morlock
Aug 8, 2009

miniscule12 posted:

https://twitter.com/Shayan86/status/1296952400184520704

Oh man imagine if twitter did this 2 years ago.

Imagine if twitter did something 5 years ago.

the gambino boss might still be alive

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...

Dixie Cretin Seaman posted:

imagine listening to mike cernovich and believing he has the secret to superior cognitive function




https://twitter.com/MichaelEHayden/status/1296891220871053312?s=20

is this guy like a lovely drawing version of therno

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

📈📊🍪😋



miniscule12 posted:

The internet is more damaging to the human brain that lead lamao.

Should have listened to something awful dot com.

Slamhound
Mar 27, 2010

Flavius Aetass posted:

it's kinda weird that the real story behind Q hasn't been blown open, right? what was the first Q post and how did it get signal boosted?
I recently came across this 2 year old article that gives a pretty good breakdown of the origins of Q.


https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna900531

Phobophilia
Apr 26, 2008

by Hand Knit
It's an open secret that the first incarnation of Q was a bunch of basement dwellers playing a 4chan forums game. And the current incarnation of Q is Jim Watkins: a sexpat in the Phillipines, owner of a pig farm and a child porn/spree killer webforum.

None of it really matters for the Q mythology, because it gives meaning to the lives of the dumbest people on earth.

Dixie Cretin Seaman
Jan 22, 2008

all hat and one catte
Hot Rope Guy

miniscule12 posted:

https://twitter.com/Shayan86/status/1296952400184520704

Oh man imagine if twitter did this 2 years ago.

Imagine if twitter did something 5 years ago.

imagine if facebook gave a gently caress

Dixie Cretin Seaman
Jan 22, 2008

all hat and one catte
Hot Rope Guy
https://twitter.com/oneunderscore__/status/1297263584158810113

kingcobweb
Apr 16, 2005

insisting that anything involving Outside is a false flag... a true posters movement. have to respect the integrity of the posts

morningdrew
Jul 18, 2003

It's toe-tapping-ly tragic!

loving hell, something needs to be done about these fuckwits

https://twitter.com/IwriteOK/status/1297273725939675136?s=19

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
that's something... shield walls on both sides

https://twitter.com/IwriteOK/status/1297284462506434561

Dante80
Mar 23, 2015

Man, this looks extremely fun..it's been over a year since people here could go against some Nazis like this.

collocation
Jun 17, 2018

Often Abbreviated posted:

not infowars, Alex has always hated Q because it's more popular than he is

I'm pretty sure it started off as one of those 4chan collaborative creative writing exercises, the people at the very beginning knew it was bullshit and were doing it for fun. probably got spread to some brokebrained boomers to gently caress with them but they took to it like crystal meth and here we are.

That's not true. He initially tried to join in and control the narrative.

miniscule12
Jan 8, 2020

HAHA YEAH HE PEED IN HIS OWN MOUTH I'M GONNA KEEP BRINGING IT UP.

https://twitter.com/hungrybowtie/status/1297270911981088768?s=19

you can see the fear quibbling in his gelatinous chin.

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...
took em long enough poo poo

https://twitter.com/ObsoleteVideos/status/1296269850973675523?s=20

aware of dog
Nov 14, 2016

miniscule12 posted:

https://twitter.com/hungrybowtie/status/1297270911981088768?s=19

you can see the fear quibbling in his gelatinous chin.

this wouldn’t have happened if Robert had his trusty machete on hand

e: https://twitter.com/hungrybowtie/status/1297407153628540928?s=21

aware of dog has issued a correction as of 12:25 on Aug 23, 2020

Tias
May 25, 2008

Pictured: the patron saint of internet political arguments (probably)

This avatar made possible by a gift from the Religionthread Posters Relief Fund

Antifa Turkeesian posted:

One thing about q that confuses me is whether people like that attempted vehicular homicide lady would have become violent without the q story to latch onto. It seems like she had been having symptoms of something for a while and that she was acting out as part of a delusion. But I don't hear about people who have delusions or schizotypal thinking getting violent very often. Possibly it's because it doesn't make the news when it's not part of a larger phenomenon, but it seems like a fair number of the people getting violent are mentally ill--and the general wisdom I've always heard about schizophrenia and mania and things like that are that it's very rare for people with untreated disorders like that to become violent or dangerous to other people. Do conspiracy theories cause mentally ill people to become violent when they otherwise wouldn't?

Short answer, no.

Untreated bipolar and schizophrenia do not make a person violent - on their own, anyway. Unfortunately, the state of mental health care and social programs in the world we live in, means many with these diagnosed also experience neglect as kids, substance abuse and a tendency to retreat into comforting delusions, some of which involve fighting evil.

E: However, I agree with Azathoth that we should not let her get off with an insanity defense before she's been evaluated. Tons of rear end in a top hat racists maim and kill others on their beliefs without being delusional. They chose to believe something wrong and, in turn, to harm someone else over it.

Tias has issued a correction as of 13:58 on Aug 23, 2020

Often Abbreviated
Dec 19, 2017

1st Severia Tank Brigade
"Ghosts of Honcharivske"

collocation posted:

That's not true. He initially tried to join in and control the narrative.

He's tried to co-opt it a couple of times yeah, but not join or promote. He only brings it up to try to harvest people from Q, either by taking a "Q is on the right track, but only I have the real stuff" or "Q is a phoney deep state lie" line, depending on the day. Alex is a narcissist, and he absolutely cannot stand playing second fiddle in what he considers his own band. He has never and never will promote Q directly because sending people to Q aligned groups bleeds eyes away from him and Infowars.

Reclines Obesily
Jul 24, 2000



Hey Moona!
Slippery Tilde
https://twitter.com/gootecks/status/1296225364180525056

this guy used to be big in the fighting game community, the emote Pogchamp is his face and its all over twitch



he goes on r/kappa (a shithole) to defend himself

https://www.reddit.com/r/Kappa/comments/iene4v/maybe_my_judgement_was_off_and_i_was_wrong/

quote:

I thought I was one of you guys! Then you go and do me like that. I see how it is.

In all seriousness, I'm actually pretty surprised that most people in here are just so ready, willing, and able to accept all of this from the far left. Didn't this place have a reputation for being far right and racist at times?

Poggers

edi:lol
https://twitter.com/gootecks/status/1297303069168787456

Reclines Obesily has issued a correction as of 16:01 on Aug 23, 2020

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...
streaming and e-sports memes are the loving worst

aware of dog
Nov 14, 2016

Alan Smithee posted:

streaming and e-sports memes are the loving worst

can we expand that to just “gamer memes are the loving worst”

cool dance moves
Aug 27, 2018


aware of dog posted:

can we expand that to just “gamer memes are the loving worst”

How about "gamers are the loving worst"?

ArmedZombie
Jun 6, 2004

aware of dog posted:

can we expand that to just “gamer memes are the loving worst”

gamers are the worst

Dustcat
Jan 26, 2019

gamers have the best words, like the predident

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!
I mean all memes suck. that’s kind of what they are

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...

CharlestheHammer posted:

I mean all memes suck. that’s kind of what they are

then why isn't our posting in macro font?

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Mr Interweb
Aug 25, 2004

Reclines Obesily posted:

https://twitter.com/gootecks/status/1296225364180525056

this guy used to be big in the fighting game community, the emote Pogchamp is his face and its all over twitch



he goes on r/kappa (a shithole) to defend himself

https://www.reddit.com/r/Kappa/comments/iene4v/maybe_my_judgement_was_off_and_i_was_wrong/


Poggers

edi:lol
https://twitter.com/gootecks/status/1297303069168787456

they're really tearing into him on that whole subreddit :lol:

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