Star Citizen: $48,000 is only $334/month for 12 years

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Mirificus: Oct 29, 2004; Kings need not raise their voices to be heard

So...now that Flight Simulator 2020 is released, does everybody still think that a full sized Earth is impossible in SC? posted:

I have stated before that I think CIG should make a serious effort to make Earth full 1:1 when they get around to it. I say this because, well...it's Earth. It doesn't have to be exactly like Earth is now with every building and structure in place. SC takes place 900 years in the future so it's to be expected that things would change. CIG could even set up Earth to only have a few major cities as landing zones and the rest of the world be barren or overrun by trees and vegetation using whatever lore excuse they want.

The point is, Microsoft has proven that it's possible and they have added features and detail that CIG wouldn't even have to do. I was told time and time again that this is simply impossible to do and yet, CIG has already done many things they themselves claimed was impossible.

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Here's the difference:

FS2020 looks fantastic at 10,000 feet. I'm sure it looks like total rear end at 10 feet in even the handcrafted areas. But that's because unless you land (or crash) you won't be spending much time looking at any single piece of FS2020's ground close-up for long. (Edit: Or you specifically pull out drone cam while paused, I forgot that's a thing. I don't own FS2020)

Star Citizen's planets are built to be walked on. When you actually compare both games on SC's terms, FS's terrain graphical solution is flat out inadequate except, as FS intended, at 2,000 feet and up. SC doesn't need a 1:1 planet to do something distinct and superior to FS2020 - it's already ahead on that front because its planets are made to be walked on.

If you want a pure flight sim, buy FS2020 because it has great graphics for what it needs. SC doing something different and is an entire fictional universe, not a fairly-realistic recreation of one planet.

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# ? Jun 6, 2024 00:53

Sanya Juutilainen: Jun 19, 2019; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Every time I am reminded that the penguin's name is Pico, I snicker a bit about Citizens who think it's their Pico. Like... Boku no Pico.

# ? Aug 22, 2020 18:47

Thoatse: Feb 29, 2016; Lol said the scorpion, lmao

#notallfoxes

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/FrighteningDecentAmericanwigeon-mobile.mp4

# ? Aug 22, 2020 18:58

Zazz Razzamatazz: Apr 19, 2016; by sebmojo

Mirificus posted:

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Here's the difference:

FS2020 looks fantastic at 10,000 feet. I'm sure it looks like total rear end at 10 feet in even the handcrafted areas. But that's because unless you land (or crash) you won't be spending much time looking at any single piece of FS2020's ground close-up for long. (Edit: Or you specifically pull out drone cam while paused, I forgot that's a thing. I don't own FS2020)

Star Citizen's planets are built to be walked on. When you actually compare both games on SC's terms, FS's terrain graphical solution is flat out inadequate except, as FS intended, at 2,000 feet and up. SC doesn't need a 1:1 planet to do something distinct and superior to FS2020 - it's already ahead on that front because its planets are made to be walked on.

If you want a pure flight sim, buy FS2020 because it has great graphics for what it needs. SC doing something different and is an entire fictional universe, not a fairly-realistic recreation of one planet.

It actually doesn't look that bad at street level, really. I mean, it's not designed for players to be walking around but it looks pretty good.

# ? Aug 22, 2020 19:07

Inspector Gesicht: Oct 26, 2012; 500 Zeus a body.

Outside of Rogue Galaxy what other games or developers have thrown shade at CIG?

# ? Aug 22, 2020 20:01

Torquemada: Oct 21, 2010; Drei GlÃ¤ser

Inspector Gesicht posted:

Outside of Rogue Galaxy what other games or developers have thrown shade at CIG?

The guy who made Battlecruiser, Dvorak Smurf or something.

# ? Aug 22, 2020 20:07

Mirificus: Oct 29, 2004; Kings need not raise their voices to be heard

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It's the AI NPC's that will make this game and change it beyond all recognition from what it is now. Right now few even contemplate the notion that there will be big social events in the game - but there will.

The in-game universe has it's own events calendar, and the universe goes on even if there are no players there to see it, the Murray Cup Racing season will happen even if there are no players around. This is what those outside can't wrap their heads around, they can only think in terms of other games they have played.. nothing like this has ever been tried before.

The way it is now you log in to grind or sight-see, or goof around. In the future you will log in to see what the hell is going on today! ..and where! Local holidays, Empire holidays, local festivals, local elections, sporting events, seasonal events (holidaying etc). More opportunities for shopping than you can shake a stick at. It will be a case of "Make sure I get next Thursday off! It's Fashion Week on Terra II! I have to get my rear end to Prime!" or "It's surfing week on Tangaroa! ...and then I have to go to the Intergalactic Aerospace Expo!"

All of this doesn't even include player run events, and Sean Tracy in particular is very keen to give the players the tools to organise their own events.

Star Citizen may well affect the global economy because of all the players pulling sick days. It happens with GTA etc. I will happen in Star Citizen because no other game has such organised spectacle. They can invite anyone into this living breathing universe, not just professional opera singers - where all you have to do is turn up. Right now they are still building tools and long term assets - because it's huge. Once they are done with those the 'content' will come thick and fast.

They have been planning something to happen in the Stanton system for about a year now they hinted at it at CitizenCon last year, if all goes to plan it will come toward the end of this year. It's just a small taste of what is to come in the future but it will knock peoples socks off. If you thought Fleet Week was big, hold on to your hats. It used to be that they put things into the PU more or less randomly but that stopped last year, now everything has a plan... this why the gas giant Crusader isn't such a big priority... but Pyro is.

I'm not joking. This is what they are planning, this living breathing universe is going to be the most amazing place you ever been.

# ? Aug 22, 2020 20:09

Bootcha: Nov 13, 2012; Truly, the pinnacle of goaltending; Grimey Drawer

Hav posted:

Take a side trip into discrete probabilities and have your brain melt on elliptic curve. Just learning about modern cryptography convinces me I should stay away from it.

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# ? Aug 22, 2020 20:12

Ffycchi: Jun 4, 2014; Sigh...challenge accepted...shitty photoshop incoming.

I have cancer. The fact that I'm betting that I'll die before this game comes out says a lot...and that's with a prognosis of 5 years.

# ? Aug 22, 2020 21:02

Mr.Tophat: Apr 7, 2007; You clearly don't understand joke development

Inspector Gesicht posted:

Outside of Rogue Galaxy what other games or developers have thrown shade at CIG?

Goat simulator I do believe

# ? Aug 22, 2020 21:03

Mirificus: Oct 29, 2004; Kings need not raise their voices to be heard

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It used to be that those who - for whatever psychotic reasons - took a dislike to the project just yapped from the sidelines. They figured out that no-one cared (and we didn't) because the project just kept growing with more and more people started jumping on board despite their efforts to supply 'dirt' to the gutter press about Cloud Imperium staff. You see the usual FUD spreading arguments just didn't make sense anymore. We didn't run out of money, no-one skipped off to the Bahamas... content was being added regularly, if slowly at times.

So they changed tactics, they decided make an account and get irritating in the RSI forums.. with some success, but that wasn't enough - in the game we saw them mostly at free fly events, so hell, $45 to get into the game and make any new players suffer and give up - is worth it maybe? Some really are that teeth-grindingly hating on Chris Roberts.

They may well be micro-penis dingus', but they also may be deranged psychotics with an axe to grind - who knows? They seem to be losing big time either way. Year on year the funding has increased to record levels... I think it pisses them off. Each patch will make it harder and harder for them to have any effect, what a shame.

# ? Aug 22, 2020 21:07

Dooguk: Oct 11, 2016; Pillbug

What would Earth be like if it was Star Citizen scale?

# ? Aug 22, 2020 21:11

Mr.Tophat: Apr 7, 2007; You clearly don't understand joke development

I can do nothing but marvel at the sunk cost galaxy as more and more money is burnt to appease the voodoo edifice that is Crobberts

# ? Aug 22, 2020 21:12

Mirificus: Oct 29, 2004; Kings need not raise their voices to be heard

Random New Banu Vocabulary

Banu Mining Vocabulary

Banu Cuisine Vocabulary

# ? Aug 22, 2020 21:13

tuo: Jun 17, 2016

Someone just gifted me the audio book "Battlefield Earth". I had no idea what this is, and then red who the author is.

Is this a red flag? I'm seriously dumbfounded what to do with it.

# ? Aug 22, 2020 21:19

Dwesa: Jul 19, 2016; Maybe I'll go where I can see stars

Mirificus posted:

Random New Banu Vocabulary

Banu Mining Vocabulary

Banu Cuisine Vocabulary

First comment: How do the Banu say "Where is my Merchantman?"

# ? Aug 22, 2020 21:23

colonelwest: Jun 30, 2018

Dwesa posted:

First comment: How do the Banu say "Where is my Merchantman?"

Lol, someone should PM them the Banu Merchantman-girl picture, that�s all the ship they need.

# ? Aug 22, 2020 21:26

Mr.Tophat: Apr 7, 2007; You clearly don't understand joke development

Dooguk posted:

What would Earth be like if it was Star Citizen scale?

Cramped unless we all no clip real fast

# ? Aug 22, 2020 21:26

Fargin Icehole: Feb 19, 2011; Pet me.

Sanya Juutilainen posted:

Every time I am reminded that the penguin's name is Pico, I snicker a bit about Citizens who think it's their Pico. Like... Boku no Pico.

Disgusting. No wonder FuzzyModem liked this game

# ? Aug 22, 2020 21:42

Quavers: Feb 26, 2016; You clearly don't understand game development

Fargin Icehole posted:

Disgusting. No wonder FuzzyModem liked this game

# ? Aug 22, 2020 21:59

trucutru: Jul 9, 2003; by Fluffdaddy

Mirificus posted:

Random New Banu Vocabulary

Banu Mining Vocabulary

Banu Cuisine Vocabulary

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- A type of grain-based cooking wine used in Banu cuisine not unlike a rice wine or sak�.
- A grain species of plant comparable to rice.
- A strong, peppery spice used
- A sweet and pungent vegetable that can be juiced and used in cooking. Similar in character to ginger (but fleshy and not fibrous).

You silly geese, it's the space turtles the ones that should cook the space Chinese food, not the space jews.

# ? Aug 22, 2020 22:11

Mr.Tophat: Apr 7, 2007; You clearly don't understand joke development

Cooking is a fantasy to most citizens, it requires a different tongue you see, unspeakable to most, you cretin, you buffoon

# ? Aug 22, 2020 22:19

Jonny Shiloh: Mar 7, 2019; You 'orrible little man

trucutru posted:

You silly geese, it's the space turtles the ones that should cook the space Chinese food, not the space jews.

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/spectrum/community/SC/forum/177659/thread/random-new-banu-vocabulary-1/

ndrumi z� - idiom./v.T2 - to not come out (Lit.: �to be promised but never be delivered�) .ino, tau ye tau. .ndrumi ful� z� �ks�!. �Don't be loving stupid Broseph. This game's never coming out!�

# ? Aug 22, 2020 22:29

Mr.Tophat: Apr 7, 2007; You clearly don't understand joke development

Fakes languages for a fake game, put down your money and forget your paaaiiiinnnn

# ? Aug 22, 2020 22:35

Torquemada: Oct 21, 2010; Drei GlÃ¤ser

Ffycchi posted:

I have cancer. The fact that I'm betting that I'll die before this game comes out says a lot...and that's with a prognosis of 5 years.

Sorry you got dealt a lovely hand. It�s one thing to joke around and say people will die before this loving thing gets finished, probably less amusing if you happen to be one of them.

# ? Aug 22, 2020 22:49

bbchops: Jul 26, 2001; Ho ho ho! I'll have the same again!; Nap Ghost

tuo posted:

Someone just gifted me the audio book "Battlefield Earth". I had no idea what this is, and then red who the author is.

Is this a red flag? I'm seriously dumbfounded what to do with it.

Just watch the film, it gives you all you need.

# ? Aug 22, 2020 22:50

Bofast: Feb 21, 2011; Grimey Drawer

Inspector Gesicht posted:

Outside of Rogue Galaxy what other games or developers have thrown shade at CIG?

Mr.Tophat posted:

Goat simulator I do believe

Yeah. Specifically, the Waste of Space DLC for Goat Simulator makes fun of Star Citizen and crowdfunding (and other things). You also get to fly a space fighter where you control the goat legs that pilot the ship. Very fidelitious, really

Ffycchi posted:

I have cancer. The fact that I'm betting that I'll die before this game comes out says a lot...and that's with a prognosis of 5 years.

Sorry to hear that.

I hope you get many more years than that, fellow goon.

# ? Aug 22, 2020 23:12

JackSplater: Nov 20, 2014; Metal Coat? It's already active?!

Inspector Gesicht posted:

Outside of Rogue Galaxy what other games or developers have thrown shade at CIG?

Stellaris can generate a system called Stimsis.

# ? Aug 22, 2020 23:13

MedicineHut: Feb 25, 2016

Ffycchi posted:

I have cancer. The fact that I'm betting that I'll die before this game comes out says a lot...and that's with a prognosis of 5 years.

That really sucks. I hope you can battle it out and win.

# ? Aug 23, 2020 00:07

Experimental Skin: Apr 16, 2016

Thoatse posted:

#notallfoxes

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/FrighteningDecentAmericanwigeon-mobile.mp4

The extremely rare Long Tailed Red Corgi!

# ? Aug 23, 2020 00:12

downout: Jul 6, 2009

tuo posted:

Someone just gifted me the audio book "Battlefield Earth". I had no idea what this is, and then red who the author is.

Is this a red flag? I'm seriously dumbfounded what to do with it.

Yes, you absolutely should. It's :catdrugs:

fun, like an amped up heinlein.

# ? Aug 23, 2020 00:37

kilus aof: Mar 24, 2001

Mirificus posted:

Random New Banu Vocabulary

Banu Mining Vocabulary

Banu Cuisine Vocabulary

Has Star Citizen cleared the super low hurdle of having one single alien in game? Obviously not. But like why "obviously not", why is CIG so obviously inept that Space Turtle Bartender after hundreds of millions of dollars and almost a decade of work is a bridge too far? Obviously the answer is Chris Roberts.

# ? Aug 23, 2020 01:34

MarcusSA: Sep 23, 2007

downout posted:

Yes, you absolutely should. It's fun, like an amped up heinlein.

Yeah I read battlefield earth back in 2000 and I actually didn�t hate it.

# ? Aug 23, 2020 01:45

phosdex: Dec 16, 2005

kilus aof posted:

Has Star Citizen cleared the super low hurdle of having one single alien in game? Obviously not. But like why "obviously not", why is CIG so obviously inept that Space Turtle Bartender after hundreds of millions of dollars and almost a decade of work is a bridge too far? Obviously the answer is Chris Roberts.

its ALPHA duh

# ? Aug 23, 2020 01:52

Kesper North: Nov 3, 2011; EMERGENCY POWER TO PARTY

tuo posted:

Someone just gifted me the audio book "Battlefield Earth". I had no idea what this is, and then red who the author is.

Is this a red flag? I'm seriously dumbfounded what to do with it.

Welcome to the foundational text of Scientology, have fun :catdrugs:

# ? Aug 23, 2020 01:53

UnknownTarget: Sep 5, 2019

tuo posted:

Someone just gifted me the audio book "Battlefield Earth". I had no idea what this is, and then red who the author is.

Is this a red flag? I'm seriously dumbfounded what to do with it.

The movie is amazing(ly bad).

# ? Aug 23, 2020 02:49

Bootcha: Nov 13, 2012; Truly, the pinnacle of goaltending; Grimey Drawer

MARK loving MCGWIRE

# ? Aug 23, 2020 02:56

MarcusSA: Sep 23, 2007

UnknownTarget posted:

The movie is amazing(ly bad).

Yeah and it�s like not even bad in a good way. It�s just... bad.

https://youtu.be/DKZYFn8qEQI

# ? Aug 23, 2020 03:15

UnknownTarget: Sep 5, 2019

MarcusSA posted:

Yeah and it�s like not even bad in a good way. It�s just... bad.

https://youtu.be/DKZYFn8qEQI

I haven't watched it in a long time but I'll admit it's a guilty pleasure, like watching Wing Commander (no joke).

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# ? Jun 6, 2024 00:53

Hav: Dec 11, 2009; Fun Shoe

tuo posted:

Someone just gifted me the audio book "Battlefield Earth". I had no idea what this is, and then red who the author is.

Is this a red flag? I'm seriously dumbfounded what to do with it.

It�s ten books of terrible sci-fi that only get published because of the church of scientology, but it�s harmless enough until you get to the Dianetics.

Mind you, Dianetics is a rip-roarer if you�re particularly confident about life, and you can see the crossovers with Gene Roddenberry, a contemporary of Elron.

Go with it, the worst that happens is you waste a couple of hours.

# ? Aug 23, 2020 04:11

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