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Its gonna be hard to top that bit in Legend of the Seeker where the lady falls while running and in slomo shows everything but the R16 bits
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Siuan Sanche is the princess from Ace Ventura 2? LOL Ace: [the Tiny Warrior shrieks in Wachutu] What did he just say? Fulton Greenwall: I *think* he said, she's not a virgin. Ace: [pause] They can *tell* that?
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Aug 21, 2020 17:40
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th3t00t posted:Siuan Sanche is the princess from Ace Ventura 2? LOL I'm still practicing my mantra from thinking about Perrin "working the forge"
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Aug 21, 2020 17:50
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Is it a common consensus that books 8 to 10 could have been one volume, and every volume could be 300 pages shorter? A lot of characters will be cut or combined, though I hope that rapist Eamon Valda stays because he's got the same first name as me.
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Aug 21, 2020 19:44
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I think 7-11 are generally regarded as "the slog", but skimming the Plot Synopsis for 8, 9, and 10 on wikipedia and yea, I think I remember those 3 being especially egregious.
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aparmenideanmonad posted:Yeah, but I think he was an equal opportunity kink endorser. Remember, the Aiel are like, eyebrow and collarbone fetishists or w/e. Collarbones are good my friend
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Aug 22, 2020 11:21
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:True. Mat on the other hand, with his immortal line "excellent pale bosom" about Berelain IDK i always felt like he's an rear end MAN. he mentions backsides, Elayne's specifically, and as I've said I always expected them to get together in my first read. but the wheel wills whatever the gently caress it wants
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Aug 22, 2020 19:22
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Death of the author, if the text speaks to you of rear end, then it's rear end!
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Aug 23, 2020 03:52
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Brolander posted:IDK i always felt like he's an rear end MAN. he mentions backsides, Elayne's specifically, and as I've said I always expected them to get together in my first read. but the wheel wills whatever the gently caress it wants Mat just likes women. Butts. Boobs. Legs. Lips. Eyes. Whatever. He finds something to compliment on nearly every woman he meets.
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Aug 23, 2020 03:55
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Eyebrows, though, that was Aviendha right?
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Aug 23, 2020 04:13
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silvergoose posted:Eyebrows, though, that was Aviendha right?
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ConfusedUs posted:Mat just likes women. Butts. Boobs. Legs. Lips. Eyes. Whatever. He finds something to compliment on nearly every woman he meets. this is true, the man is horny in all ways
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Aug 23, 2020 05:11
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Sab669 posted:I think 7-11 are generally regarded as "the slog", but skimming the Plot Synopsis for 8, 9, and 10 on wikipedia and yea, I think I remember those 3 being especially egregious. On my last re-read I told myself going into it that this time I wouldn't skim anything. Read every page and pick up details I had missed. I managed until book 9, and probably skimmed 1/4 of it. Then I skimmed 3/4 of 10. It just couldn't keep my attention.
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Now listening through Dragon Reborn for the first time and being forced to take it slowly rather than speeding through, and I’m realizing what an absolute clinic it is in establishing Mat as a character. Up to this point he’s basically an anonymous ticking clock who liked pranks and is defined mostly as being more skeptical of Rand than Perrin is. But here, the first scene with him conscious is the legendary “eats a whole chicken and a pitcher of wine” scene while he thinks (again, incredible that it’s a legendary scene where it’s just one character pacing around and thinking and eating). Then you have his chat with the Amyrlin and Lanfear, and immediately following it’s him getting shut down by fake-Else and whooping Galad and Gawyn with a stick. Maybe three chapters with no wasted moments that completely define his character, establish his key traits, and put the reader squarely in his corner. Really great stuff.
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Aug 23, 2020 15:02
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I swear, the line from hammar yelling "who was the greatest swordsman of all time" is so, so good.
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Aug 23, 2020 15:32
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silvergoose posted:I swear, the line from hammar yelling "who was the greatest swordsman of all time" is so, so good. It was when he covered the bets for Galad and Gawyn I knew poo poo was about to go down. The guy who trains Warders knows what's about to happen and just wants some entertainment.
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Aug 23, 2020 18:14
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seaborgium posted:It was when he covered the bets for Galad and Gawyn I knew poo poo was about to go down. The guy who trains Warders knows what's about to happen and just wants some entertainment. Not "just", when you've got headstrong youths with a bit of skill the hardest thing to teach is humility. Not sure how much they learned, but no teacher's gonna let a chance like that go by.
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Aug 24, 2020 00:30
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plus you just know he rolled up and his aes sedai was like dude wtf you haven't been able to talk for 3 hours because you've been laughing nonstop what's going on
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Aug 24, 2020 00:45
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:plus you just know he rolled up and his aes sedai was like dude wtf you haven't been able to talk for 3 hours because you've been laughing nonstop what's going on Hammar 
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Aug 24, 2020 00:58
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silvergoose posted:Hammar loving Gawyn is the worst
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Aug 24, 2020 00:59
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if he cant teach two dudes with swords how to beat one guy fresh from his sickbed, he deserves what he got i firmly believe the reason the younglings won the tower battle was because they were getting some training on the sly from someone who had actually seen a sword before
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Aug 24, 2020 01:04
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awesmoe posted:if he cant teach two dudes with swords how to beat one guy fresh from his sickbed, he deserves what he got The warders probably weren't trying to kill their students at first and were preoccupied with the Aes Sedai freaking out, while the Younglings probably knew if they went after them they'd have to go all out, so the warders eventually losing seemed possible to me Also spears and staves are always superior to swords, even without taking Mat's ridiculous luck into account. Two on one is unlikely but far more so than if the weapons had been reversed.
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DarkHorse posted:The warders probably weren't trying to kill their students at first and were preoccupied with the Aes Sedai freaking out, while the Younglings probably knew if they went after them they'd have to go all out, so the warders eventually losing seemed possible to me (but that is a fair point about the swords, and the battle)
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Aug 24, 2020 01:54
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the entire point was pretty much to teach them that the sword isn't the end-all be-all of everything and that there's things that can outright gently caress them up if they underestimate them, because at the end of the day they were still recruits and probably full of themselves. getting knocked on their asses was a lesson.
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Aug 24, 2020 01:57
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Also it seems likely that he wouldn't normally have bet on a man he knew nothing about if that person didn't bend chance and circumstance to benefit his narrative.
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Aug 24, 2020 02:12
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Do you think Lanfear was constantly going around in awful disguises back before the war as well? Oh god I bet Lews Therin fell for all of them.
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where did Mats luck come from? Was it the dice terangreal or taveren poo poo? I'm rereading a few books ahead of a friend of mine who is borrowing my books and reading behind me. He just finished the dragon reborn and still didn't like mat, pointing out specifically the fight against gawyn and galad and the luck as seemingly coming from nowhere.
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Aug 24, 2020 03:16
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Atlas Hugged posted:Also it seems likely that he wouldn't normally have bet on a man he knew nothing about if that person didn't bend chance and circumstance to benefit his narrative. If the pattern decided that galad and gawyn needed the poo poo beaten out of them, I can accept it
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Ghislaineof YOSPOS posted:where did Mats luck come from? Was it the dice terangreal or taveren poo poo? It's something to do with his soul and the ta'veren poo poo interacting with it. He's always born as a gambler and a general. The dice ter'angreal don't have anything to do with it.
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Aug 24, 2020 03:24
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Pretty sure there's nothing in the books to explain Mat's luck explicitly. But interviews have revealed that he's a unique soul like The Dragon, or the Heroes of the Horn who gets woven out into the pattern every so often. A soul known as The Gambler, always lucky and prone to taking chances. There's very mild hints to that in the book. Both the Heroes of the Horn and the Eelfinns and Aelfinns call him Gambler but I think that's about it.
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it's his magic power, kinda like how perrin is the living embodiment of the 'there are two wolves inside you' meme and rand's ability is to be bugshit insane
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Johnny Joestar posted:it's his magic power, kinda like how perrin is the living embodiment of the 'there are two wolves inside you' meme and rand's ability is to be bugshit insane Bugshit insane and a borderline idiot savant with channeling. Seriously like half of his channeling is "I don't really know how I did it it just kinda worked"
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I always kinda thought him being possessed by the dagger brought about his luck cause it was after him being cured the dice started rolling around in his head.
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There is nothing you can do about the son of Clark that is Jordan
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:Bugshit insane and a borderline idiot savant with channeling. Seriously like half of his channeling is "I don't really know how I did it it just kinda worked" "Oh no fish and loaves just keep coming out how do I stop this"
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Aug 24, 2020 04:17
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and sometimes lews therin just decides to start slinging out gateways like destructo discs from dragonball z to mow down entire legions of trollocs
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Ghislaineof YOSPOS posted:where did Mats luck come from? Was it the dice terangreal or taveren poo poo? There's a bit later on where you find out that Mat is a reincarnation of a persona that has done enough stuff to be a Hero of the Horn but explicitly turns it down in every life because the idea of being controlled by anything beyond their own choices and random luck is antithetical to their nature. Relying on luck, beating the odds, etc is just his thing, regardless of when and where he gets spun out. Probably safe to assume there's some precipitating event in each life to really "activate" it but we'll never know for sure.
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Aug 24, 2020 04:38
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Ghislaineof YOSPOS posted:where did Mats luck come from? Was it the dice terangreal or taveren poo poo? Karatheon Cycle posted:Fortune rides like the sun on high, Luck is his soul. As others have pointed out, it's something specific to his soul, just like being the Dragon is specific to Rand's/LLT's soul.
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Aug 24, 2020 07:59
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Johnny Joestar posted:the accents are one of the biggest points made about characters and tend to be one of the most important identifying factors man, I hope they don't go down that route with the series, the German dub will just bulldoze all those dialects flat, or make everything super ludicrous by exchanging dialects with German ones the Seanchan will all talk in a Bavarian dialect because get it, Bavaria is in the south
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Libluini posted:man, I hope they don't go down that route with the series, the German dub will just bulldoze all those dialects flat, or make everything super ludicrous by exchanging dialects with German ones GRUSS GOTT TUON
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