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goddamnedtwisto posted:Unless your friend is in their 70s, this didn't happen, and if they are, it *still* didn't happen, sounds like one of those tales Americans like to tell each other to pretend that they have a cuisine not based on petroleum by-products. Hey I read it somewhere on this forum years ago. Cat tax, black cat next to a bag of coke
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# ? Aug 24, 2020 10:33 |
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Mebh posted:Can you give more details? I just started smoking this summer and this sounds like something I'd want to try! What cut of pork, I assume shoulder for low and slow, I've done a few pork loins but they cook really fast (like 1.5 hours fast) the shoulder took 12 hours. 6 smoking, 6 wrapped in a tray with cider for steaming. Yeah pork shoulder or beef chuck for instance. I don't really use a recipe but they are all quite similar to each other. I think it was this one I used as a base when I first tried it, though unlike in the video I put both the meat and beans in my smoker and cook them together, the meat goes on the top grate and beans below. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bPBCoRP5Lw
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# ? Aug 24, 2020 10:44 |
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My house mate at uni used to boil mince. Which we laughed at but Google says is a thing.
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# ? Aug 24, 2020 10:45 |
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NotJustANumber99 posted:My house mate at uni used to boil mince. Which we laughed at but Google says is a thing. Everything is a thing somewhere, that doesn't make it not terrible though.
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# ? Aug 24, 2020 10:49 |
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NotJustANumber99 posted:My house mate at uni used to boil mince. Which we laughed at but Google says is a thing. Tbh the way most people seem to cook mince (throw the whole thing in a cool pan and steam it until it’s nice and grey) isn’t that much different from boiling.
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# ? Aug 24, 2020 10:52 |
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Why would you steam mince? It takes no time at all for it to brown in a pan.
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# ? Aug 24, 2020 10:53 |
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Lol'ed at this popping up on my timeline: https://twitter.com/deletedbyMPs/status/1297833685362892802
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# ? Aug 24, 2020 10:59 |
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stev posted:Why would you steam mince? It takes no time at all for it to brown in a pan. People don't realise a frying pan isn't a magical thermodynamics-cheating device that is instantly at cooking temperature as soon as you put it on the hob and retains that temperature constantly throughout. See also ovens - "It says cook for 20 minutes but it's taken half an hour and it's still not done!" when they put it on gas mark 8 ten seconds *after* putting the thing in the oven.
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# ? Aug 24, 2020 10:59 |
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StarkingBarfish posted:Lol'ed at this popping up on my timeline: Sometimes I feel sorry for our big milky boy, of all of the Melt All-Stars he seemed to be the only one to actually believe that they were going to do well and had a relevant and resonant message (and probably not coincidentally seems to be the only one not in a high six-figure directorship or "consultancy"). Of course it's the same way I feel sorry for those people who break their backs jumping off that big rock in Dorset - I've a baseline sympathy for anyone who makes a dumb decision and fucks themselves up, especially when they get peer-pressured into it, because hey they're still human, but it's not like they weren't warned and the danger wasn't blatantly obvious to everyone else.
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# ? Aug 24, 2020 11:05 |
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Vitamin P posted:This is loving baffling though. Please tell us the more meaningful lefty uses of this hypothetical fiver. Donate it to your local food bank. Donate it to your local mutual aid group Use it for dues for your union(s). Donate it to your local homeless shelter. Donate it to your local LGBT+ charity. Donate it to Mermaids. Just... spend it keeping your lefty self happy and sane. Rent a movie on your streaming service of choice and forget the existential dread for a couple of hours. If you can't think of better lefty things to do with a fiver than buy a vote in a meaningless election for a party that purports to be leftist but isn't, I'm kinda sad for you tbh.
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# ? Aug 24, 2020 11:06 |
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Right, so the latest outrage bullshit culture war stuff is that the BBC is going to replace "Rule Brittania" with the Soviet National Anthem or some poo poo. It's going gently caress apeshit out there on the timeline and of course Nick Ferrari dedicated his morning slot to it. As I'm getting really fed up with all these transparent nonsense stories I thought I'd actually look up the original story that 'broke the scandal'. I can't be 1000% sure, but I think it's this thing in the Times: (the underlined bits are my comments on it) quote:Rule Britannia faces axe in BBC’s ‘Black Lives Matter Proms’ So NONE OF THAT LITERALLY NONE OF IT said anything about axing those two stupid songs because of our new BLM overlords. It doesn't exist. It's a loving FANTASY. The only confirmed loving thing is that it may be practically hard and could fall flat because the audience doesn't sing along. But what we got is all the usual suspects jumping on it, citing this non-piece, and then just amplifying poo poo by asking Nigel Farage and the fash brigade what they think about this non-story. Surpise surprise they get juicy quotes. Now third-category papers get to cover the "controversy". What a loving hellscape of a country.
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# ? Aug 24, 2020 11:24 |
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They should axe them because they're poo poo songs, OP. Anyone who goes around knowing the words and singing them is suspect IMO. Also get rid of god save the queen. She can save her loving self.
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# ? Aug 24, 2020 11:28 |
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OwlFancier posted:They should axe them because they're poo poo songs, OP. Stop engaging with this thing. It's not a story. It is not a thing that is happening and any hyperbole, sincerely held beliefs, or edge comments are irrelevant and only serve to stoke the culture war to the right's advantage
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# ? Aug 24, 2020 11:30 |
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You... posted it though? Like yes, sure, it's not happening, but I would be happy if it did, and that's probably the least terrifying thing I've posted recently as far as culture war poo poo goes.
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# ? Aug 24, 2020 11:34 |
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Don't post it then?
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# ? Aug 24, 2020 11:34 |
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I'm also not sure "you have to pussyfoot around these miserable old gammons because if you say anything they don't like they win" Like no, gently caress off, I don't like the proms and never have, I'm not gonna pretend to like them because some demented old fart derives their only momentary joy from singing about the queen.
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# ? Aug 24, 2020 11:39 |
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OwlFancier posted:You... posted it though? No, I posted it as media criticism. As a barefaced show of how this absolutely non-story stuff comes to goose people, and you bit exactly by not reading between the lines and going "Proms Bad".
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# ? Aug 24, 2020 11:43 |
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Rule Britannia is better than God Save the Queen. It's a better candidate for the national anthem than the dirge that every other Commonwealth Realm only uses for royal events. Heart of Oak would make a decent national anthem too, it's got an actual tune to it. Something to get the yellow bile pumping or whatever. Trying to tie any of it into BLM is more of the same stupid poo poo though.
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# ? Aug 24, 2020 11:45 |
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I think G-man's point was that the "story" is bait designed to make us say "actually yes we should stop singing Rule Brittania because it literally brags about slavery" so the right can then use that as a strawman & say that if you say you're English you get arrested & thrown in jail, meaning that engaging with it to point out that it's obviously not true is very different to engaging with it to take the bait. However, we totally should stop singing Rule Brittania, because it literally brags about slavery. That's just not the argument we should lead on in the national discourse, because it allows them to control the narrative. Considering they choose who gets to participate in the discourse and how though, I don't think anything we have to say is worth a drat tactically, maybe we should just be arresting people & throwing them in jail if they say they're English
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# ? Aug 24, 2020 11:51 |
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It is a real struggle to see a meaningful route towards a non-poo poo society when the fash can just... make up stories like this... and liberals will just... unquestioningly accept them.
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# ? Aug 24, 2020 11:57 |
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I mean I'm down for us stealing the Soviet anthem, its a banging choon. Maybe drop the bit about 'party of Stalin' tho
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# ? Aug 24, 2020 12:01 |
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Whats the anthem for?
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# ? Aug 24, 2020 12:04 |
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Any decent national anthem has to be a bit high camp. If it wouldn't be equally at home being sung by serious faced ham men in historical hats, drunk football fans, a Gilbert and Sullivan AmDram troupe, and a mustachioed bisexual Zanzibari in skintight spandex then it's failed at several levels.
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# ? Aug 24, 2020 12:06 |
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thespaceinvader posted:It is a real struggle to see a meaningful route towards a non-poo poo society when the fash can just... make up stories like this... and liberals will just... unquestioningly accept them.
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# ? Aug 24, 2020 12:08 |
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feedmegin posted:I mean I'm down for us stealing the Soviet anthem, its a banging choon. Maybe drop the bit about 'party of Stalin' tho All across Britain, a dozen or so tankies just became uncontrollably angry and have no idea why
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# ? Aug 24, 2020 12:09 |
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Borrovan posted:However, we totally should stop singing Rule Brittania, because it literally brags about slavery. The only mention I recall is that Britons will never be slaves, which doesn't sound like a brag to me. Of course that doesn't stop gammons thinking it means slaves (read: "blacks") will never be Britons.
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# ? Aug 24, 2020 12:09 |
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Borrovan posted:I think G-man's point was that the "story" is bait designed to make us say "actually yes we should stop singing Rule Brittania because it literally brags about slavery" so the right can then use that as a strawman & say that if you say you're English you get arrested & thrown in jail, meaning that engaging with it to point out that it's obviously not true is very different to engaging with it to take the bait. Exactly. This is just moving the real problems of class, BLM etc in the realm of the completely trivial that allows both sides to go apeshit at each other but for the dumbest possible reasons while the average, non-online-person just gets to think that cultural acceptance has gone too far innit. This story is just so transparently 'that makes no sense' if you think about it for even half a second. The only winners in the discourse are the right here. (in an ideal world where the tune selection of night of the proms was our biggest problem, of course you'd get rid of them both and replace it with No Diggity but that is profoundly irrelevant)
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# ? Aug 24, 2020 12:09 |
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nah its all just the UK really figuring itself out, now instead of talking about
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# ? Aug 24, 2020 12:16 |
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Pomp and Circumstance No.1 in D is a cracking tune, tbh You could score it with fart noises instead of singing and it'd still be good.
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# ? Aug 24, 2020 12:16 |
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Niric posted:All across Britain, a dozen or so tankies just became uncontrollably angry and have no idea why Jedit posted:The only mention I recall is that Britons will never be slaves, which doesn't sound like a brag to me. Of course that doesn't stop gammons thinking it means slaves (read: "blacks") will never be Britons. It does at heart tie into Anglo freeman-on-the-land bullshit, but there's far worse things that exist as a result of that (like the global neoliberalism slowing killing us all) than a couple of rousing songs.
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# ? Aug 24, 2020 12:17 |
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I think there are some people hoping no-one wins this particular twitter squabble https://twitter.com/AoDespair/status/1297523130320158721
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# ? Aug 24, 2020 12:17 |
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Junior G-man posted:No, I posted it as media criticism. As a barefaced show of how this absolutely non-story stuff comes to goose people, and you bit exactly by not reading between the lines and going "Proms Bad". But I already think proms bad? Am I just supposed to stop thinking that because it might offend some gammon? feedmegin posted:I mean I'm down for us stealing the Soviet anthem, its a banging choon. Maybe drop the bit about 'party of Stalin' tho There's the earlier (and possibly also later?) version about being the party of lenin if you want.
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# ? Aug 24, 2020 12:28 |
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lol if you sing songs about being proud to be british.
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# ? Aug 24, 2020 12:29 |
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Jedit posted:The only mention I recall is that Britons will never be slaves, which doesn't sound like a brag to me. Of course that doesn't stop gammons thinking it means slaves (read: "blacks") will never be Britons. The line directly before that is about how you rule the waves. The song is about Britian having an unstoppable navy and that they are never going to be slaves, because they will conquer anyone who tries it. Also the whole part about Britain being the "dread and envy of all" plays into that.
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# ? Aug 24, 2020 12:31 |
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The bit about crushing rebellious scots might be pertinent I guess.
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# ? Aug 24, 2020 12:32 |
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Junior G-man posted:No, I posted it as media criticism. As a barefaced show of how this absolutely non-story stuff comes to goose people, and you bit exactly by not reading between the lines and going "Proms Bad". the Proms are good actually, hth kingturnip posted:Pomp and Circumstance No.1 in D is a cracking tune, tbh number 1 is way overplayed, number 4 is much much better
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# ? Aug 24, 2020 12:32 |
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Yeah I always read the "never shall be slaves" bit as being followed by an implicit "unlike you other fuckers, lol"
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# ? Aug 24, 2020 12:33 |
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Borrovan posted:Yeah I always read the "never shall be slaves" bit as being followed by an implicit "unlike you other fuckers, lol" But thats still saying slavery is bad isn't it. Like not a thing you'd like to be.
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# ? Aug 24, 2020 12:35 |
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Technically "stop hitting yourself" necessary implies that getting hit isn't a lot of fun
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# ? Aug 24, 2020 12:37 |
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# ? May 27, 2024 22:47 |
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The Proms should be nothing but an orchestra playing Threnody to the Victims of Hiroshima for 3 hours after forcing the musicians to stay awake for 24 hours, while plague doctors move around the stage with electric saws slowly hacking bits off the instruments until there is nothing left but a single timpanist deliriously banging on the torn shreds of his drum not even realising that it isn't making a sound and everyone has passed out.
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