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hobbesmaster posted:Shatner may be somewhat biased. This is what i get for not noticing the author
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By the way, the Russians are loving around with us in Syria again. https://twitter.com/Joyce_Karam/status/1298656396704206848?s=19 https://www.politico.com/amp/news/2020/08/26/us-troops-injured-russian-forces-syria-402347?__twitter_impression=true
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maffew buildings posted:at this point i think it's non zero they just don't bother arresting him "He has such a bright future ahead of him"
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CRUSTY MINGE posted:Watch them try him as a minor. In WI, first and second degree intentional homicide and first degree reckless homicide go straight to adult court. However, maffew buildings posted:at this point i think it's non zero they just don't bother arresting him
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CRUSTY MINGE posted:Wait, he hasn't been arrested yet? Has the Pipe Bomb SEAL been arrested yet?
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Stravag posted:This is what i get for not noticing the author Its a borderline gag op-ed, its good imo. I am responding to this so I don't have to read more into deathcane or right wing death squads.
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joat mon posted:Most juvenile stuff doesn't work that way anymore, if it ever did. In that respect, it's like welfare queens and the insanity defense. I think it is too early to tell, because this could be a case of self defense. There is a bunch of videos, but it is impossible to really tell what sparked the altercation. It seems that the shooter was standing by a store, gets in an argument, had a Molotov thrown at him, shoots the thrower, runs away. He is chased by an armed crowd, is knocked over, and fires.
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^^^lmfao^^^ No, and there’s already a “self defense” narrative going around by purposely splicing video of the incident out of order. Also footage of him walking past the line if cops after the shooting abd the food letting him through. He’s gonna walk
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Handsome Ralph posted:This is gonna sound wrong no matter how I say it, but I always look forward to your posts every hurricane season. I know what you mean. I get excited to go do it sometimes and see what the storm can do but it sucks when something like this is bearing down on people anywhere. No good pics since I’ve been flying mostly at night and into nothing well-formed. I did see some cool sunsets and rainbows though. It’s not usually so orange in there. Excuse the dirty 50-year old window.  
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I said OoooOooOoooh out loud at my phone. https://twitter.com/clairenjax/status/1298662751523479554?s=19 1st degree murder and fleeing the state. Woo! Edit: so the cops let the drat murdering kid right through their barricade with his hands up, promptly did not arrest him, and the kid promptly fled the state and is on the run, likely to hole up with some other militia group. A+ job they did on that one. facialimpediment fucked around with this message at 18:01 on Aug 26, 2020 |
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Pine Cone Jones posted:I really hope that kid ends up strung up from a post, even if that's the wrong answer. Can we loving not?
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Wait, so this kid: 1/ Has an illegal gun because he's under 18 2/ Crossed state lines with an illegal gun 3/ Shot people with the illegal gun 4/ Fled the pigs across state lines That about sums it up?
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Just loving lol if we get a Bundy style standoff out of this fuckhead kid.
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Don't have the twewt handy, but they're charging 1st degree murder and he's been labeled a fugitive
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Internet Wizard posted:Has the Pipe Bomb SEAL been arrested yet? Nah, he's gotta get his book deal inked first.
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facialimpediment posted:By the way, the CDC is basically hosed now. This is why I tend to react like a gently caress when I see the "Biden won't make anything better ever" stuff. Why would a Biden admin change this? If you're already committed to not paying people to stay home and healthy, and to not providing care if they're sick, accurate and widespread testing doesn't do anything but make people scared to go out and buy things. There's no upside.
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C2C - 2.0 posted:Don't have the twewt handy, but they're charging 1st degree murder and he's been labeled a fugitive it was a page back facialimpediment posted:I said OoooOooOoooh out loud at my phone.
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His hands just kind of casually going from in the air to near his gun while walking to the cops after what they did to Blake just makes my brain hurt.
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Kid got arrested! https://twitter.com/MollyBeck/status/1298668069493981184?s=19
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Doc Hawkins posted:Why would a Biden admin change this? If you're already committed to not paying people to stay home and healthy, and to not providing care if they're sick, accurate and widespread testing doesn't do anything but make people scared to go out and buy things. There's no upside. Biden's on record that there is no economic fix without virus suppression, that he will listen to scientists and do what they want (including possible shutdowns - he took poo poo for that this week), and the massive bill that Democrats want in the Senate more or less shores up all of the paying people stuff, possibly even without an expiration date. So the CARES bill pays the workers to stay home. Medicare buy-in expands health plans for lost insurance and poo poo that Congress doesn't auto-pay for or plans that are too poo poo as part of Obamacare (again, not as good as Medicare for all). The testing increases cut the transmission chains. The scientists leading press briefings finally tell the public the truth about where we actually are and what we can do about it. So yeah, a lot of chunks there Biden can't do poo poo about, like the Senate bill. But people are drastically underestimating how much can be fixed rapidly without a numbers-obsessed conspiracy theorist in charge of everyone. Side note: Donnie's attempts to kill testing are also comedic because it's just going to cause the positivity rate to skyrocket. On top of that, with flu season, poo poo's going to go rapidly out of control in a hurry and the lines are going to be absolutely obscene.
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Doc Hawkins posted:Why would a Biden admin change this? If you're already committed to not paying people to stay home and healthy and to not providing care if they're sick, accurate and widespread testing doesn't do anything but make people scared to go out and buy things. There's no upside. Here's the thing- the way the pandemic is being mismanaged means that in the near term, the economy is gonna take a nosedive, and international trade being in the situation it is- no amount of domestic stimulation is going to make it much better. Biden, the GOP, AND the DNC, as well as the moneyed interests of the US, are heavily invested in a relatively healthy workforce that can move about the nation and international sphere relatively easily. What we're seeing is the erosion of not only a commercial economy but the potential for future able-bodied workforces and interpersonal interactivity. Anyone who is not Trump wants the CDC to be operating better and things to be recorded, tracked, and reported so that they can better model and project where this is going, and adjust capital to either mitigate loss or to transfer risk to other parts of the economy. Right now, nothing is logical or makes sense because it's being so heinously mismanaged and no one wants to piss off the toddler in the oval office. So yeah, in terms of "there will be no altruism", you're right, but remember that the national management apparatus is set up to meet the needs of industry, so now that there is pressure to normalize or make an attempt to mitigate the impact, you would totally see positive movement in a post-Trump administration. A great example of the pressures behind this mindset and ideology would be the "philanthropy" of the moneyed types in the late 1800s through Prohibition. They didn't actually strongly believe in curing man's ills, but they definitely wanted a healthier, more sober, and more literate workforce to maximize profit and ensure consistent output. If you're unable to guarantee that your customer and employee base is going to be able to a) come to you b) have money to buy your product or c) be able to show up to make/push your product- that's a huge risk to your business and impacts the larger economy. Immanentized fucked around with this message at 18:28 on Aug 26, 2020 |
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Immanentized posted:Biden, the GOP, AND the DNC, as well as the moneyed interests of the US, are heavily invested in a relatively healthy workforce that can move about the nation and international sphere relatively easily. This is 100% fan fiction. The ONLY number they care about is next quarter. Period. If they were at all interested in investing in a healthy workforce this would never have happened.
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CainFortea posted:This is 100% fan fiction. And what do you think is driving the metrics for next quarter? It's not a truly healthy workforce, but one that can be relied on to show up semi-regularly. Remember that when this all went down that there were major industries (excepting meat packing, but they're a special case) that went WFH/ high level employee protections immediately, once the risks were understood to a decent degree. Sure they're not acting altruistically or out of care for the worker as a group, but if you don't have people your earnings are going to suffer. It wasn't a perfect or even adequate amount of protection, but just enough to ensure that business as usual continued.
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Nick Soapdish posted:Bill's got the right of it Jesus christ imagine getting owned by Shatner.
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Immanentized posted:And what do you think is driving the metrics for next quarter? It's not a truly healthy workforce, but one that can be relied on to show up semi-regularly. Remember that when this all went down that there were major industries (excepting meat packing, but they're a special case) that went WFH/ high level employee protections immediately, once the risks were understood to a decent degree. Sure they're not acting altruistically or out of care for the worker as a group, but if you don't have people your earnings are going to suffer. It wasn't a perfect or even adequate amount of protection, but just enough to ensure that business as usual continued. Make them show up to work even if they're sick.
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So the shooter was a (former?) police cadet. Knowing a few of these guys in high school this explains a lot https://twitter.com/Mercuryal/status/1298568065580503045 This is just hosed up for so many reasons. I wonder if they'll go after whatever friends/family armed him and drove him across state lines to "protect lives and property"
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Harry Potter on Ice posted:This is great, thank you. If anyone else has It Could Happen Here podcast by Robert Evans.
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CainFortea posted:Make them show up to work even if they're sick. And they do! I'm not fundamentally disagreeing with you, but at some point doing that yields negative returns. I do this sort of risk modelling on top of general security work for a living. It's a definite calculus that is going into manufacturing and logistics employers right now. The currentconsensus is that the "show up, don't call out" model didn't work Spring-Summer 2020. Everyone's freaking out about Fall-Winter through 2021. A lot of companies are expecting the year to start off worse than March-May 2020 looked and if it means offering an inch of employee wellness, they'll eat that cost to protect some of their margins. After all, there's baked in tax incentives.
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Milo and POTUS posted:Jesus christ imagine getting owned by Shatner. Oh for crying out loud.
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Immanentized posted:And they do! I'm not fundamentally disagreeing with you, but at some point doing that yields negative returns. Okay, but the point we are disagreeing about is that pretending that the monied give a poo poo about worker health. Because the ONLY thing that matters is the next few weeks. No one who is in any real position of power to do anything about it is freaking out. I'm sure some middle management types are.
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CainFortea posted:This is 100% fan fiction. To say nothing of the simple fact that capital has been fleeing the US for our entire lives. Our inability to provide basic infrastructure is both an outcome of the process and a signal to speed it up. The "trade war" you keep hearing about is just the creaking of boats on our sinking tide.
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CainFortea posted:Okay, but the point we are disagreeing about is that pretending that the monied give a poo poo about worker health. Because the ONLY thing that matters is the next few weeks. No one who is in any real position of power to do anything about it is freaking out. I'm sure some middle management types are. Yeah it's not the workers, it's the labor resource. The people freaking out are the statistical modelers and mid-term strategists, but Johnny CEO won't acknowledge until Q4 earnings are reported. Thanks for the clarification, I think we're on the same bitter wavelength now.
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Milo and POTUS posted:Jesus christ imagine getting owned by Shatner. Shatner routinely hosts paranormal type bullshit showd so I'd put it on par with getting owned by Ancient Aliens guy, Giorgio Tsoukalos. He's every bit as dumb as the rest of us, and actively making people dumber in some cases. But the whole space force thing is dumb as gently caress in the first place, so the point is moot anyhow.
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Johnny Five-Jaces posted:^^^lmfao^^^ Not to be a dick, but doesn't the timeline video show that he walked by the cops before the shooting? Or did he walk by cops after the shooting as well? Also, you gotta love the fact that one of the cops on the PA system from the vehicle farther from the crowd is telling the militia rear end in a top hat to leave, and then the other cop on the PA system in the vehicle closest to the crowd completely overrules the other cop's orders and says "we appreciate that you're out here" and gives them loving water. loving ridiculous. This video: There's so much misinformation out there about this already, it's hard to know what actually happened and when. Bored As Fuck fucked around with this message at 18:49 on Aug 26, 2020 |
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Bored As gently caress posted:Not to be a dick, but doesn't the timeline video show that he walked by the cops before the shooting? Or did he walk by cops after the shooting as well? Both. He was chatting with the cops before the shooting. And then after the shooting he just scoots on by them to leave and they give zero fucks.
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facialimpediment posted:https://twitter.com/weatherchannel/status/1298677363505586176?s=19 Christ. Be safe.
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Bored As gently caress posted:It Could Happen Here podcast by Robert Evans. I think this is exactly what i was looking for, thank you! If you or anyone has more I'll take it all
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