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KodiakRS
Jul 11, 2012

:stonk:
Are you guys allowed to use the challenger sized fuel tanks? As far as I know most of the CRJ family actually has the fuel tanks from their bizjet counterparts despite being certified to carry significantly less fuel. Back when I flew the CRJ we found one had been fueled to 5,000 lbs over it's max capacity and our maintenance guys basically said "Yeah they have the bizjet center tanks so you can fuel them to like %50 more than the published number without problems. Every so often the fuel dude goofs and over fills it." Unfortunately you still have to defuel it down to max published capacity which can be a royal pain in the rear end.


Also, I'll be joining the furloughed pilot club on October 1st assuming congress doesn't save our asses again. :toot:

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yellowD
Mar 7, 2007

Hey Aero goons, dropping in to say thank you. A bunch of you made some really awesome and helpful effort posts in response to my questions way back when. After 3 instructors (one ghosted), a pandemic shutdown, and 75 hours, I got my ticket about a month ago. It was the check ride from hell but I made it.

Animal
Apr 8, 2003

yellowD posted:

Hey Aero goons, dropping in to say thank you. A bunch of you made some really awesome and helpful effort posts in response to my questions way back when. After 3 instructors (one ghosted), a pandemic shutdown, and 75 hours, I got my ticket about a month ago. It was the check ride from hell but I made it.

Awesome, congrats PIC.

Rolo
Nov 16, 2005

Hmm, what have we here?
Heck yeah!

:cheers:

e.pilot
Nov 20, 2011

sometimes maybe good
sometimes maybe shit

yellowD posted:

Hey Aero goons, dropping in to say thank you. A bunch of you made some really awesome and helpful effort posts in response to my questions way back when. After 3 instructors (one ghosted), a pandemic shutdown, and 75 hours, I got my ticket about a month ago. It was the check ride from hell but I made it.

:toot:

Captain Apollo
Jun 24, 2003

King of the Pilots, CFI

yellowD posted:

Hey Aero goons, dropping in to say thank you. A bunch of you made some really awesome and helpful effort posts in response to my questions way back when. After 3 instructors (one ghosted), a pandemic shutdown, and 75 hours, I got my ticket about a month ago. It was the check ride from hell but I made it.

This is actually the best and most knowledgeable aviation forum in existence.

And it’s not even just this thread - ATC, aviation history.....there’s so much.

Bob A Feet
Aug 10, 2005
Dear diary, I got another erection today at work. SO embarrassing, but kinda hot. The CO asked me to fix up his dress uniform. I had stayed late at work to move his badges 1/8" to the left and pointed it out this morning. 1SG spanked me while the CO watched, once they caught it. Tomorrow I get to start all over again...
Can someone help me with an ADSB out question?

Me and the boys began our pilgrimage back to the gulf coast after successfully avoiding the hurricane. Our service ceiling is 31000. With an enroute heading of like 210, we all filed 280 and requested 300 (were non RVSM). When we get home, we get questioned as to why we broke the service ceiling. Our ADSB out reported our altitude as 320. This happened for multiple different aircraft and someone from my unit saw it in a web air traffic site and tattled. My ForeFlight tracklog even shows 320.

Is ADSB out reporting GPS altitude? Or is it just some form of uncalibrated pressure altitude? I’m trying to bend my mind around how this happens over a few dozen aircraft. On my tracklog, the difference between my altimeter and the ADSB altitude gets smaller and smaller as I stepped down in altitudes— and it’s pretty much on at 10k and below.

Mao Zedong Thot
Oct 16, 2008


I think it depends on your transmitter. Lots of GA ones have their own inherent WAAS GPS.

babyeatingpsychopath
Oct 28, 2000
Forum Veteran


Bob A Feet posted:

Can someone help me with an ADSB out question?

Me and the boys began our pilgrimage back to the gulf coast after successfully avoiding the hurricane. Our service ceiling is 31000. With an enroute heading of like 210, we all filed 280 and requested 300 (were non RVSM). When we get home, we get questioned as to why we broke the service ceiling. Our ADSB out reported our altitude as 320. This happened for multiple different aircraft and someone from my unit saw it in a web air traffic site and tattled. My ForeFlight tracklog even shows 320.

Is ADSB out reporting GPS altitude? Or is it just some form of uncalibrated pressure altitude? I’m trying to bend my mind around how this happens over a few dozen aircraft. On my tracklog, the difference between my altimeter and the ADSB altitude gets smaller and smaller as I stepped down in altitudes— and it’s pretty much on at 10k and below.

Depends on the system. They should be reporting pressure altitude, but if there's no source of that, they'll report GPS altitude with a flag in there that says "GPS altitude." If you're not flying RVSM, then that's ok, because everyone has to stay the hell away from you anyway. That said, if you're reporting pressure altitude too, and flying into a hurricane area, then your pressure altitude and GPS can be significantly different; whomever is looking at the tracks may be looking at GPS altitude. I can only assume you were flying pressure altitude and flew at 30,000 indicated with 29.92 dialled in above FL180.

e.pilot
Nov 20, 2011

sometimes maybe good
sometimes maybe shit
I run foreflight in the flight levels all the time and the GPS altitude is frequently 2000-3000ft higher than the indicated flight level.

As far as I know ADS-B is reporting GPS position and altitude, mode C is what reports pressure altitude. It sound like whatever website that data came from is just reporting the ADS-B data.

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

yellowD posted:

Hey Aero goons, dropping in to say thank you. A bunch of you made some really awesome and helpful effort posts in response to my questions way back when. After 3 instructors (one ghosted), a pandemic shutdown, and 75 hours, I got my ticket about a month ago. It was the check ride from hell but I made it.

That's awesome! :cheers:

Re: your instructor who ghosted, it has been really, really satisfying in an extremely schadenfreude fashion, watching the people who treated instructing as a terrible imposition come crawling back through the supplicants' door begging for a job after getting laid off by the airlines. The good ones? We took them back right away, and it's actually been amazing and improved the overall quality of our instruction. The ones who treated instructing as an afterthought and just wanted the hours? Not so much... we're still training new instructors and they will be hired in preference to the ones who clearly didn't give a single gently caress.

e.pilot
Nov 20, 2011

sometimes maybe good
sometimes maybe shit

PT6A posted:

That's awesome! :cheers:

Re: your instructor who ghosted, it has been really, really satisfying in an extremely schadenfreude fashion, watching the people who treated instructing as a terrible imposition come crawling back through the supplicants' door begging for a job after getting laid off by the airlines. The good ones? We took them back right away, and it's actually been amazing and improved the overall quality of our instruction. The ones who treated instructing as an afterthought and just wanted the hours? Not so much... we're still training new instructors and they will be hired in preference to the ones who clearly didn't give a single gently caress.

Same but watching the people who said I’d regret going to fly cargo before I upgraded at the regionals asking for recs and/or being too proud to ask.

ImplicitAssembler
Jan 24, 2013

yellowD posted:

Hey Aero goons, dropping in to say thank you. A bunch of you made some really awesome and helpful effort posts in response to my questions way back when. After 3 instructors (one ghosted), a pandemic shutdown, and 75 hours, I got my ticket about a month ago. It was the check ride from hell but I made it.

Congrats!

Animal
Apr 8, 2003

e.pilot posted:

Same but watching the people who said I’d regret going to fly cargo before I upgraded at the regionals asking for recs and/or being too proud to ask.

It's funny I have a Facebook Messenger conversation from someone asking me for a rec and if I scroll up on the same chat literally one page up there's a message from our last conversation in 2016 telling me why my then new job is beneath him.

Pryor on Fire
May 14, 2013

they don't know all alien abduction experiences can be explained by people thinking saving private ryan was a documentary

It seems like flying cargo would be way more high status than having to deal with the shitshow that is the commercial airlines, even before covid. Putting on the dumb hat and smiling at passengers has to be the worst part of the job, right? Maybe back in like 1962 there was some prestige there? If I were a pilot I think cargo sounds way more appealing.

Or is cargo just weird routes and scheduling that nobody wants to do?

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

Pryor on Fire posted:

It seems like flying cargo would be way more high status than having to deal with the shitshow that is the commercial airlines, even before covid. Putting on the dumb hat and smiling at passengers has to be the worst part of the job, right? Maybe back in like 1962 there was some prestige there? If I were a pilot I think cargo sounds way more appealing.

Or is cargo just weird routes and scheduling that nobody wants to do?

Domestic cargo flights are redeyes and the like so you can get your first am package by 8:30 am from across the country.

Animal
Apr 8, 2003

Night time is the best time to fly. Not too hot on the ground, not having to constantly fiddle with sunshades. Direct everywhere. Less annoying weather and turbulence.

Cons: your body flipping out about circadian rhythms.

Desi
Jul 5, 2007
This.
Changes.
EVERYTHING.

KodiakRS posted:

Are you guys allowed to use the challenger sized fuel tanks? As far as I know most of the CRJ family actually has the fuel tanks from their bizjet counterparts despite being certified to carry significantly less fuel. Back when I flew the CRJ we found one had been fueled to 5,000 lbs over it's max capacity and our maintenance guys basically said "Yeah they have the bizjet center tanks so you can fuel them to like %50 more than the published number without problems. Every so often the fuel dude goofs and over fills it." Unfortunately you still have to defuel it down to max published capacity which can be a royal pain in the rear end.


I didn't know that was a thing actually. I'm going to ask about it. I mean, I'm sure we won't be allowed to use it, but I'm going to find out if it exists. My employer is actually the small ACMI airline division of a Bombardier-specialist heavy-check and modification AMO, and we bring a mechanic with us on these specialty missions so I'll be sure to bug him about it.


Animal posted:

It's funny I have a Facebook Messenger conversation from someone asking me for a rec and if I scroll up on the same chat literally one page up there's a message from our last conversation in 2016 telling me why my then new job is beneath him.

I've been on the other side of that conversation. Now, I didn't claim cargo was beneath me, rather I did suggest it "wasn't my jam" because I'm one of those weirdoes that actually likes passenger interaction. At my last regional I also had the seniority to not be on reserve and roll in with a coffee in my hand for trips that started at 10am. Pax flying made me too soft. Little did I know a few short months after that conversation I'd be taking an RJ into loving Damascus. I'd kill to take back what I was saying about being too soft to fly boxes at night :bang:

e.pilot
Nov 20, 2011

sometimes maybe good
sometimes maybe shit

Animal posted:

It's funny I have a Facebook Messenger conversation from someone asking me for a rec and if I scroll up on the same chat literally one page up there's a message from our last conversation in 2016 telling me why my then new job is beneath him.

:yeshaha:


e:
Freight owns, I never want to go back to pax.
5 min walk from the hotel van to the plane
No security KCM nonsense other than the commute to work
I can lug my bike around with me
Never more than a two legs a day and rarely more than one leg.
Sure my sleep cycles occasionally get hosed up, but I usually get 20-30 hours in between legs to sleep it off so it’s not a huge deal.

Sure it doesn’t have the pay or “prestige” of flying pax, but it’s a lot more stable of a job, and dealing with pax sucks anyways.

e.pilot fucked around with this message at 17:25 on Aug 27, 2020

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

i bet cargo doesn't whine about "clear air turbulence" or clap sarcastically on landing either

Pryor on Fire
May 14, 2013

they don't know all alien abduction experiences can be explained by people thinking saving private ryan was a documentary

Yeah see I could never fly "pax" as you cool dudes call it, because the first time some assholes started clapping on landing I would convert that motherfucker into a touch and go and start doing loops until the clapping stopped. loving clappers.

TidePods4Lunch
Apr 24, 2005
You can't kill me, I'm made out of invincible!

Bob A Feet posted:

Can someone help me with an ADSB out question?

Me and the boys began our pilgrimage back to the gulf coast after successfully avoiding the hurricane. Our service ceiling is 31000. With an enroute heading of like 210, we all filed 280 and requested 300 (were non RVSM). When we get home, we get questioned as to why we broke the service ceiling. Our ADSB out reported our altitude as 320. This happened for multiple different aircraft and someone from my unit saw it in a web air traffic site and tattled. My ForeFlight tracklog even shows 320.

Is ADSB out reporting GPS altitude? Or is it just some form of uncalibrated pressure altitude? I’m trying to bend my mind around how this happens over a few dozen aircraft. On my tracklog, the difference between my altimeter and the ADSB altitude gets smaller and smaller as I stepped down in altitudes— and it’s pretty much on at 10k and below.

Geez, what nerd FDO (VT-2, 3, or 6) was tracking people like that to tattle on them?

Arson Daily
Aug 11, 2003

Animal posted:

Night time is the best time to fly. Not too hot on the ground, not having to constantly fiddle with sunshades. Direct everywhere. Less annoying weather and turbulence.

Cons: your body flipping out about circadian rhythms.

Flying at night rules. Being a human at night loving sucks because your lizard brain is never going to forget that you're supposed to sleep at night and be up during daytime. Plus 3rd shift ages the gently caress out of you and kills you quicker unless you're a triathlete or something.

I loved flying poo poo around in the middle of the night but my body loves me more now that I don't do it.

Bob A Feet
Aug 10, 2005
Dear diary, I got another erection today at work. SO embarrassing, but kinda hot. The CO asked me to fix up his dress uniform. I had stayed late at work to move his badges 1/8" to the left and pointed it out this morning. 1SG spanked me while the CO watched, once they caught it. Tomorrow I get to start all over again...

TidePods4Lunch posted:

Geez, what nerd FDO (VT-2, 3, or 6) was tracking people like that to tattle on them?

I’ll just say this.... it was an XO who was one of like five people to depart the previous day. Did you make the voyage to KLEX?

TidePods4Lunch
Apr 24, 2005
You can't kill me, I'm made out of invincible!

Bob A Feet posted:

I’ll just say this.... it was an XO who was one of like five people to depart the previous day. Did you make the voyage to KLEX?

Naw, I PCS’d earlier this year. I’m in Meridian now as a Helo to Jet transition dude.

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

night flying is really gorgeous and i want this coronavirus to be over already so i can get a buddy as a safety pilot and putter around in the cool stable air some more

e.pilot
Nov 20, 2011

sometimes maybe good
sometimes maybe shit

Arson Daily posted:

Plus 3rd shift ages the gently caress out of you and kills you quicker unless you're a triathlete or something.
I am a uniathlete because running and swimming sucks. I have a travel bike it owns.



The 767 even has a neat little folding bike case sized spot behind my seat where it lives :3:

KodiakRS
Jul 11, 2012

:stonk:
The trick to flying at night is consistency. Doing one or two red eyes a week will mess you up if you revert to a "normal" sleep cycle in between them. I had a month of red eyes and basically slept from 0700-1500 home time even when I wasn't flying. The first few days were awful but after that I got used to it and by the end of the month I felt totally normal. Unfortunately this isn't an option for some people who need to be functional members of society on their days off.

ImplicitAssembler
Jan 24, 2013

Starting on confined areas...this was supposedly a beginner spot!

https://i.imgur.com/cu0KOqK.mp4

Rolo
Nov 16, 2005

Hmm, what have we here?
I hope you keep posting videos because that is so cool.

CBJSprague24
Dec 5, 2010

another game at nationwide arena. everybody keeps asking me if they can fuck the cannon. buddy, they don't even let me fuck it

I did new student orientations for the first time this week (after someone else did them the last couple years) and, while at the airport, was told by the FBO's new owner some of the horror stories and that "everybody's glad you're involved now". (The previous F/T Coordinator was universally hated and ragequit their job during COVID.) I also started shadowing a course I might pick up next semester with our twice-removed-former-Chief-turned-Citation driver who made no bones about saying nice :words: about me and actively included me in the class.

drat, if being told you're appreciated didn't made me feel good on the heels of strongly disliking this gig at times in the last two years (after it being awesome the first 1.5). :unsmith:

PT6A posted:

That's awesome! :cheers:

Re: your instructor who ghosted, it has been really, really satisfying in an extremely schadenfreude fashion, watching the people who treated instructing as a terrible imposition come crawling back through the supplicants' door begging for a job after getting laid off by the airlines. The good ones? We took them back right away, and it's actually been amazing and improved the overall quality of our instruction. The ones who treated instructing as an afterthought and just wanted the hours? Not so much... we're still training new instructors and they will be hired in preference to the ones who clearly didn't give a single gently caress.

We have two of these guys who've come back (one each from ZW and a 135, who were both solid dudes the first time through) plus a new guy who got furloughed from United (but doesn't look old enough to be at mainline, which confuses the hell out of me). We also have an alum from RP who is apparently interested in the aforementioned vacant Coordinator position.

All this immediately after hiring 3 other new instructors, so we went from desperate need to critical mass all of a sudden with like 5 guys in the CFI training pipeline right now. :stonklol:

ImplicitAssembler posted:

Starting on confined areas...this was supposedly a beginner spot!

https://i.imgur.com/cu0KOqK.mp4

God, that's sick.

Why do some people do heli training with helmets on? When I started my job at the College, I knew nothing about helicopter training, so I binge-watched some dude's series on YouTube and noticed both he and the CFI had helmets on but neither pilots in ^that^ video (nor our students) use them.

Here4DaGangBang
Dec 3, 2004

I beat my dick like it owes me money!

CBJSprague24 posted:

Why do some people do heli training with helmets on? When I started my job at the College, I knew nothing about helicopter training, so I binge-watched some dude's series on YouTube and noticed both he and the CFI had helmets on but neither pilots in ^that^ video (nor our students) use them.

Pretty sure it’s because head injuries are a real possibility when you’re operating an aircraft that is able to hang around so close to the ground, near trees etc., and there’s a real possibility it will fall from the sky from a low enough altitude that it wouldn’t just be outright fatal. Not to mention it looks pretty violent for occupants when helicopters shed rotor blades due to impact with objects or the ground...

I didn’t wear a helmet, nor did any of he instructors or other students I saw where I flew, but I think it’s more common to see in the US.

I imagine it’s more likely to be an instructor wearing one because it’s an occupational health and safety thing for them. But some students no doubt want the protection too, and of course you can’t ignore the looks-cool-as-gently caress factor...

Here4DaGangBang fucked around with this message at 16:12 on Aug 28, 2020

ImplicitAssembler
Jan 24, 2013

I'm getting my helmet next week!
Most of the instructors wear them, but this guy has a previous neck injury, so he doesn't wear one any longer.
Stats are in general in favour of helmets. They also help with noise reduction and visors makes it easier to use glasses (which I kinda need to read some of the small print on the maps, despite easily passing the sight test at the medical)

Captain Apollo
Jun 24, 2003

King of the Pilots, CFI
Link to the kickass clip on visors to hats.

ImplicitAssembler
Jan 24, 2013

Captain Apollo posted:

Link to the kickass clip on visors to hats.

I'll ask..the school is providing those.

Bunch more confined areas today. This was was particularly tricky. Although the area and approach was easy looking, the wind swirling around the mountains meant the wind changed direction 3 times on me and I only noticed one of those during low recce. Still didn't die, though.

https://i.imgur.com/NOpNGY3.mp4

Animal
Apr 8, 2003

That’s awesome. I wanna fly helicopters in a place like that.

ImplicitAssembler
Jan 24, 2013

Animal posted:

That’s awesome. I wanna fly helicopters in a place like that.

It is nice...although most of the time I'm too busy to actually enjoy the scenery!.

I'm now officially halfway through (assuming I test within 100 hours) and this week was a huge step up in difficulty.
It's not just the flying, but understand terrain, it's possible effect on wind and leanring to read the wind signs.
And at the same time, I also have to fly more precise and have a lot less room for error and it isn't the kinda 'well, we just go around' kinda margin, it's "You'll crash and die" kinda margin.
I suspect the thing that surprises most people when they start flying, is just how power limited helicopters actually are. (I kinda surprised me). Power management is #1 priority.
This is turning into a bit of a mind dump, but I'm just realising how much more work is left and how I need to step up the focus level to get there.

ImplicitAssembler fucked around with this message at 05:52 on Aug 29, 2020

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane
That looks extremely good and it makes me feel bad for all the people who do their helicopter training in mainly the bald-rear end prairies around Calgary.

Captain Apollo
Jun 24, 2003

King of the Pilots, CFI
Yeah also don’t trees block the “good wind” so sometimes it’s hard to lift back out of an area if you get too blocked in?

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The Slaughter
Jan 28, 2002

cat scratch fever
Those vids are awesome. I got my electronic furlough letter today, the paper one is coming via USPS so it'll probably show up around Christmas. It's so weird how the good times went from so good, to so bad so quick.
2 of my really good friends at United already have new jobs lined up, both because of good connections. I guess I don't know anybody cause I'm a loving rear end in a top hat or something, so it looks like the ol' Funemployment unless Congress bails out my sorry rear end again.

I love flying, and maybe some day they'll pay me to do it again.

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