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I picked up some army painter pure red to have a crack at some blood angels. It's a wonderfully saturated bright red spray primer that's exactly what I wanted. The pure red from a pot however is far more pink and desaturated than the sprayed on colour and really stands out when doing touch ups. AP claims they match 100%, but even the swatches on the spray and the pot don't match. What the gently caress. Is that normal for them? Eediot Jedi fucked around with this message at 07:34 on Aug 28, 2020 |
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Aug 28, 2020 06:23
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That's weird, the pure red from the bottle should not seem pink and de-saturated, that almost sounds like the pigment in the bottle isn't mixed fully. I've used the spray and dropper and they are very close, if not exact.
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Aug 28, 2020 06:34
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That's what I thought but the shade out of the bottle matches the swatch on the bottle label. I've shaken it a fair bit by hand, but I need to get some ball bearings. Bit bummed because the spray is loving awesome, with some flesh tearers contrast for panel lining it looks fantastic. e: the damage to the bottle label is from strapping it to a jigsaw to give it a good mechanical shake. 
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Aug 28, 2020 06:46
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Well I'm not sure, it's been a few years since I used the spray so maybe they matched less than I thought. These days I spray the pure red dropper over a zenithal primed undercoat, so it's only brightest at the top parts of the part. The reason I started doing that was with my original blood angels I'd gotten kind of a zenithal effect from the pure red spray over the previous blue plastic, so I tried to approximate that with the airbrush.
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Aug 28, 2020 07:36
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I think you're right, I should definitely get an airbrush already.  That sounds cool and I was thinking of trialling something similar.
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Aug 28, 2020 07:45
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If it's the same pigment it shouldn't matter spray or bottle (assuming they know what they're doing which they generally do). Might be a job for a ball bearing or returning for another pot?
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Aug 28, 2020 09:35
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To be honest I've just come to accept that spray and pots have a very slightly different finish no matter what and always paint over spray now, even with the "same" colour.
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Aug 28, 2020 12:37
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JBP posted:If it's the same pigment it shouldn't matter spray or bottle (assuming they know what they're doing which they generally do). Might be a job for a ball bearing or returning for another pot? Yeah I'll get up them about it. I don't think it's a mixing problem given the label matches the final colour pretty well, even going over the spray. Kitchner posted:To be honest I've just come to accept that spray and pots have a very slightly different finish no matter what and always paint over spray now, even with the "same" colour. It kind of blends in small patches, but once you see it you can't unsee it. Touching up a plate with makes it look so out of place to the rest, it just looks wrong. If it had a similar eye searing saturation to the spray I'd be fine, but I want that, so painting over isn't going to work. A thin coat of blood angels contrast gets it close enough to pass but then it's contrast splotchy. If I put battle damage over that I'd probably never see it again tbh, but drat it they said 100% match not 'eh they're both red i guess'.
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Aug 28, 2020 13:00
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Knobb Manwich posted:. So in a GW video tutorial or a Duncan Rhodes one a while back they were like "Spray this colour, now paint it the exact same colour" and before I could say "lol nice one to see more paint GW" they explained they are slightly different tones and therefore if you make a mistake a need to touch up that mistake it will be very slightly obvious. I repeated these words of wisdom to a friend who went to spray his WW2 tank with Zhandri dust, and suggested he spray it and then give it at least one thin layer with the pot. He ignored me then apologised later when he needed to fix a mistake an you could see it was slightly different. He also suggested he may cover it up with battle damage. So now I have just come to accept your should never leave the spray paint colour showing unless you're doing a super quick "gently caress I need these guys battle ready for a tournament tomorrow" job.
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Aug 28, 2020 13:05
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I get what you said and why, I'd like to do that, if they were even ball park close. The final colour of the bottle i have sucks rear end and ruins what i love from the spray. I'll be damned before I'll settle for painting my BA in anything less than a red shade of the freshest blood straight from Santa's elves.
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Aug 28, 2020 13:15
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Knobb Manwich posted:I get what you said and why, I'd like to do that, if they were even ball park close. The final colour of the bottle i have sucks rear end and ruins what i love from the spray. I'll be damned before I'll settle for painting my BA in anything less than a red shade of the freshest blood straight from Santa's elves. I started painting with a big box of army painter colors and if I was giving advice to a new painter I think I'd try to avoid them and just collect a few colors from somebody else for what you need to paint. The line has some great paints but is really inconsistent and some mix especially poorly and the pigment separated from the medium on quite a few of mine.
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Aug 28, 2020 13:52
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Knobb Manwich posted:I get what you said and why, I'd like to do that, if they were even ball park close. The final colour of the bottle i have sucks rear end and ruins what i love from the spray. I'll be damned before I'll settle for painting my BA in anything less than a red shade of the freshest blood straight from Santa's elves. Do the scale modeller trick and decant the paint from the spraycan. Spray hard into.the lid and you can pour the paint into a bottle.
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Aug 28, 2020 16:22
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Z the IVth posted:Do the scale modeller trick and decant the paint from the spraycan. Spray hard into.the lid and you can pour the paint into a bottle.  Jesus christ you can't just up and stay things like that! I almost had an aneurysm because of how obviously simple of an idea this is, yet I never thought to do that.Will the paint dry out if this is done in a drip bottle?
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Aug 28, 2020 16:41
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Kabuki Shipoopi posted:
If it's airtight you should be good. I used my wife's empty makeup containers.
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Aug 28, 2020 16:46
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Has there been anything new on the WH40K app? I am very ready to subscribe to it, but it seems like GW has already abandoned it.
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Aug 28, 2020 16:49
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Kabuki Shipoopi posted:
You’ll need some white spirit or something to clean your brushes if you do this though, water won’t do anything.
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Aug 28, 2020 17:19
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I said come in! posted:Has there been anything new on the WH40K app? I am very ready to subscribe to it, but it seems like GW has already abandoned it. They set up a road map of sorts but the list builder, the part people care about, is still "sometime in the future". Edit: 
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Aug 28, 2020 17:28
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RagnarokAngel posted:They set up a road map of sorts but the list builder, the part people care about, is still "sometime in the future".
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Aug 28, 2020 17:34
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I expected the app to be a disaster but so bad it committed several crimes was not on my list.
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Aug 28, 2020 17:38
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Like, I know Battlescribe is bad apparently but they had working list building within 48 hours of the rules dropping. And (while I'm well aware of professional vs. amateur and I know (better than most) the dangers that organizations face from Not Invented Here): goddamn, GW.
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Aug 28, 2020 17:38
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Got an email that the Weirdboy is back in stock. I like the Weirdnob Shaman better at this point but figured I would pas it on.
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Aug 28, 2020 17:41
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Knobb Manwich posted:I get what you said and why, I'd like to do that, if they were even ball park close. The final colour of the bottle i have sucks rear end and ruins what i love from the spray. I'll be damned before I'll settle for painting my BA in anything less than a red shade of the freshest blood straight from Santa's elves. I do really like the Blood Angels Red contrast paint for really, really deep reds. What I usually do is just paint the figure a lighter shade of red (evil sun's scarlet) and then paint blood angels red over the top. When my Word Bearers arrive I'd be tempted to spray them all mephiston red spray and then blood angels red all over the top of that, but contrast has the same problem as spray, if you need to touch up a mistake, it's not going to play nice. So instead I'm thinking mephiston red spray, Word Bearers red as a layer, and then Wazdakka red and evil sunz scarlet highlight. Should create a really dark red.
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Schadenboner posted:Like, I know Battlescribe is bad apparently but they had working list building within 48 hours of the rules dropping. Because it's unofficial I see a lot of skepticism around using it but I don't see many more inaccuracies compared to what GW has put out with Azyr and especially launch day of this app. You should always double check of course but I think too much burden is placed on it being "not official". If nothing else I would love a list builder with a UI that's more friendly to the user. It's baffling that they did so badly with this when Azyr is fine, it's not perfect and a lot could be done, but it gets its job done.
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Aug 28, 2020 17:53
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I cannot believe that there's no way to view / sort units by keyword. That's the intended purpose of keywords, guys.
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Aug 28, 2020 18:01
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Kabuki Shipoopi posted:
I will admit I did squint a little when I first saw a video where the guy sprayed into a lid to decant before transferring to an airbrush.
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Aug 28, 2020 18:42
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That's wild, I didn't know about that trick. Are you basically working with an enamel paint at that point?
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RagnarokAngel posted:They set up a road map of sorts but the list builder, the part people care about, is still "sometime in the future". Wait, do the Indomintus models not have stats available yet? Or what physical books are these units listed in?
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Aug 28, 2020 19:23
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I said come in! posted:Wait, do the Indomintus models not have stats available yet? Or what physical books are these units listed in? They're only listed in the booklet that comes with Indomitus, I believe.
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Somberbrero posted:They're only listed in the booklet that comes with Indomitus, I believe. Gotcha! The reason why I didn't know this is because I bought just the Necrons from another goon and they only gave me the assembly instructions.
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Aug 28, 2020 19:46
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Booyah- posted:That's wild, I didn't know about that trick. Are you basically working with an enamel paint at that point? It's still acrylic, though like someone else said you'll need to clean your brushes with a proper solvent rather than just water.
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Aug 28, 2020 19:57
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Somberbrero posted:They're only listed in the booklet that comes with Indomitus, I believe. The indomitus stats are in the app under the Edge of silence : Space Marines and Necrons and it's broken up by chapter.
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Aug 28, 2020 20:01
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If people are looking for alternate Guard models, the Dreamforge range is making a comeback! 
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Aug 28, 2020 22:43
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Honestly not exactly thrilled the More-Explicity-Space-Nazis minis are back but good that guy can keep working, he's got talent even if it's uh, misplaced.. Space Soviets might be cool.
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Aug 28, 2020 23:09
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I was tempted to buy some custom word bearer shoulder pad add ons, and someone linked people here who made some. I checked one of them out (can't remember which) and one of their recent projects was making a space marine logo of a Noose. I noped away from that immediately.
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Aug 28, 2020 23:34
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MRLOLAST posted:The indomitus stats are in the app under the Edge of silence : Space Marines and Necrons and it's broken up by chapter. It sounds like GW is going to improve the app, but until they fix that organizational structure it's still going to suck.
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So my FLGS still had an Indomitus box left, and last time we were in the store my wife actually commented on how cool the necron looked. So now I have Indomitus. I've never bought a new edition box before, it's kind of overwhelming. Just got to finish my 1ksons army. All that's left are vehicles and a daemon prince, but wow there is a lot of stuff in this box.
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Aug 29, 2020 00:26
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Yeah indomitus is a really, really good box set and in an expensive hobby any chance to pick up so many model for a relatively low cost was always going to be crazy popular. I think a lot of people are also now getting multiple smaller armies due to a) crusade and b) a good way to introduce others to the hobby by lending them one of your armies.
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Aug 29, 2020 03:15
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Speaking of indomitus, I think I figured out the rough color scheme I'm going to paint the marines from that boxSpanish Manlove posted:Test space wolf second try. Even lazier paint job than last time but this is all to see if colors work together. Got some vallejo luftwaffe grey for the armor and it's fitting pretty well in my opinion. I washed the blue/green with some gulliman blue glaze (rip) then drybrushed with p3 frostbite white. Edit: I think red eye lenses will look better
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Spanish Manlove posted:Speaking of indomitus, I think I figured out the rough color scheme I'm going to paint the marines from that box I wouldn't paint the weapons the same colour as the should pads personally. That blue is really bright and I think less is more. Personally I really like the squad markings that are "canon" (i.e. Red and black for the intercessors and grey hunters, grey and black for reivers, yellow and black for wolf guard etc). If you're going for that blue instead though I'd leave it as the shoulder markings and just do the weapons in black. If you have a frost sword or something I'd try to paint it so it looks distinct from the frosty shoulder pad look too. Maybe more of a frost white just to differentiate.
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Long shot but does anyone know when AP started using white text for the colour name on their pots? My pure red is black text and I can't even find a matching product picture. Wondering if it's very old or something? If anyone happens to be out and about in plagueworld 2020 I'd really appreciate a side by side picture of the AP pure red pot/primer.Z the IVth posted:Do the scale modeller trick and decant the paint from the spraycan. Spray hard into.the lid and you can pour the paint into a bottle. Nice. GuardianOfAsgaard posted:You’ll need some white spirit or something to clean your brushes if you do this though, water won’t do anything. Very nice. Kitchner posted:I do really like the Blood Angels Red contrast paint for really, really deep reds. What I usually do is just paint the figure a lighter shade of red (evil sun's scarlet) and then paint blood angels red over the top. There were a lot of complaints about GWs Mephiston Red spray when I was looking. I haven't found anyone complaining of the same issue I'm having so idk. I'd be curious to try two thinner coats of BA contrast over a slight zenithal or pre shaded mini.
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