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Vermain posted:Looks pretty good. Her kit does look strong, but it seems a lot of its power is dependent on you correctly performing combos and being able to dodge in/out of a pitched fight. Reminds me a bit of old Quinn, but more competently done. Kinda curious what the hell her role's supposed to be, though. Assassin? ADC? Specialist? ADC Assassin hybrid from what I remember. She’s meant to go bot and farm for crit items like an ADC but plays closer to an assassin in fights.
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gimme dat champ model ace, eyepatch yes, ADC with CC yes, gimme gimme
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Vermain posted:Looks pretty good. Her kit does look strong, but it seems a lot of its power is dependent on you correctly performing combos and being able to dodge in/out of a pitched fight. Reminds me a bit of old Quinn, but more competently done. Kinda curious what the hell her role's supposed to be, though. Assassin? ADC? Specialist? Yeah, true. She's this year's marksman so she's meant to be an ADC but she'll probably play closer to some kind of skirmisher in actual fights. If I'm reading her passive right she can also basically juggle enemies with knockups on her autos which sounds pretty hilarious
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Aug 29, 2020 04:09
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SirSamVimes posted:Imo there is no feeling in this game finer than landing the cronch as Urgot. I yell "GET OVER HERE" like Scorpion every time, never gets old
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Aug 29, 2020 04:14
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Looks interesting but very tied to having another person with her. That W is going to lead to a lot of really funny missed timings. 500 range sounds rough though.
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Aug 29, 2020 04:17
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adc, another person tied to them, you say
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Aug 29, 2020 04:19
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Q is a slash that is an aoe when cast while dashing, W is windwall, and E is a targeted dash... After a few changes she'll be a mid don't worry lol E: Also her CDs are insane. Gonna need CDR to ever press R holy poo poo Firstborn fucked around with this message at 04:27 on Aug 29, 2020 |
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Aug 29, 2020 04:21
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Firstborn posted:Q is a slash that is an aoe when cast while dashing, W is windwall, and E is a targeted dash... Q has a 2 second CD at max rank. Pretty clear you're gonna be like Auto Q Auto Q Auto E Q R
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Aug 29, 2020 04:40
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Jerkface posted:Q has a 2 second CD at max rank. Pretty clear you're gonna be like Auto Q Auto Q Auto E Q R You can't do the same skill twice in a row to gain style ranks, right?
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Aug 29, 2020 05:20
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SirSamVimes posted:You can't do the same skill twice in a row to gain style ranks, right? Yea. Every basic or ability that is different than the last gives you a stack. So you just weave Q and E in with your autos until its R time. If you get a W opportunity that will also count. Samira is bae. Her voice lines are all really fun.
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Aug 29, 2020 05:24
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Jerkface posted:Yea. Every basic or ability that is different than the last gives you a stack. So you just weave Q and E in with your autos until its R time. If you get a W opportunity that will also count. Autos give stacks? That makes things easier.
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Aug 29, 2020 05:35
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More importantly, Ao Shin is finally here.
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I think my favorite part about having chat muted is that, as the jungler, I have to tell my buddies on the call to notify our rando teammates in chat to show up for blue buff and dragon fights. I'm never turning chat back on. e: Being on a call with your teammates makes jungling so much less stressful, holy poo poo
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Aug 29, 2020 11:04
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RPATDO_LAMD posted:[rift guardian explanations] Thanks for the info. Side tip: Next time you play Dota, try Ursa and feel mighty as you burn Roshan down all by yourself. The downside is, when you pick Ursa, any team that isn't even dumber than I am is smart enough to keep vision of the pit. Troll Warlord and Lycan with farm can do it with relative ease, as well. Craptacular! fucked around with this message at 11:57 on Aug 29, 2020 |
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Aug 29, 2020 11:51
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Samira seems insanely cool and I'm really looking forward to never being able to pick her for weeks on end
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I'm looking forwards to maintaining a steady C rating, occasionally slipping into the lofty heights of B territory when I misclick a minion.
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Aug 29, 2020 13:56
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Elvis_Maximus posted:Samira seems insanely cool and I'm really looking forward to never being able to pick her for weeks on end Not only that, but I fully expect to have to compete with every other lane to play her. Bot lane also gets two bans, so good luck there.
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Aug 29, 2020 14:55
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She looks like katarina
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Aug 29, 2020 17:44
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It sounds like that really short range combined with encouraging getting melee attacks in means she's going to die an absolute shitload because she's got ADC stats. I'd imagine she could be pretty scary with how mobile she looks to be though
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Aug 29, 2020 18:55
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As a new player learning the ADC role, I kinda just wanted to talk about how lopsided things can sometimes feel. When I lose in the early game it feels like I might as well be a cannon minion for all the good I do - but if I get even small lead, it's like I'm a small god. Esp with caitlyn - pressing r and getting a kill every time someone dips below half health is a dopamine rush.
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Aug 29, 2020 18:57
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ADC is definitely the highest highs and lowest lows, though once you've learned how to safely farm back to relevance from behind you can recover from a bad start.
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Aug 29, 2020 19:01
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what makes ADC so awful to play in my experience is that they're all designed to start bad and get good, but for some of them get good is at 45 minutes with six items, and for others get good is at level three
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Aug 29, 2020 19:24
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what i hate about adc is if your support sucks you're useless and typically get blamed for it, and if your support is good they just spoon feed you to the degree that i don't even feel like i'm participating
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Jerkface posted:gimme dat champ model ace, eyepatch yes, ADC with CC yes, gimme gimme It's called off meta ADC Twisted Fate 
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njsykora posted:ADC is definitely the highest highs and lowest lows, though once you've learned how to safely farm back to relevance from behind you can recover from a bad start. This requires your team to give you the space to do so and not continue to explode though. Agreed on the highs and lows - it's fun to hit that point where people just melt before you, but for every one of those you also get the game where an enemy bruiser can roll their face on the keyboard and not allow you to play anymore. It's basically the most team dependent role. rabidsquid posted:what i hate about adc is if your support sucks you're useless and typically get blamed for it, and if your support is good they just spoon feed you to the degree that i don't even feel like i'm participating This is pretty much why I play support in ranked over adc, supports have so much power budget to dictate the early lane. Plus most supports can still be useful if they fall behind, but an underfed ADC is basically a sad experience in futility.
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Aug 30, 2020 00:54
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I appreciate they're really just gonna make Samira spot the DMC reference? She's got the red queen and calls her opponents dead weight. And she has a
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This really is the year of the Yasuo. You got his brother whose Ult is an easy team knock up and now you have Dante from the Devil may cry series to back up Yasuo's wind wall, able to turn any incapacitation status into a brief knock up and a nice Katarina like ult to finish them off. 
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Aug 30, 2020 15:28
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Samira champion trailer. Looks sick as hell. They're not even trying to be subtle about the DMC inspiration, which I admire.
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I didn't even realize that her ult has a 3 SECOND COOLDOWN lmao She's just way better Katarina
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I imagine it's gonna be like gnar ult which has something like a 40-second cooldown at rank 2, the barrier of entry is set by the rest of the kit (since she cant ult without having an S-rank) rather than the cooldown itself
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Monicro posted:I imagine it's gonna be like gnar ult which has something like a 40-second cooldown at rank 2, the barrier of entry is set by the rest of the kit (since she cant ult without having an S-rank) rather than the cooldown itself I mean in the video she pretty easily got two off on the span of like 10 seconds. She looks like an absolute sidelane monster with the sheer about of chase and dmg she can put out against someone overextended.
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Firebert posted:I didn't even realize that her ult has a 3 SECOND COOLDOWN lmao The ultimate is conditional my man. You need to hit like 6 abilities in a short span of time to be able to press it.
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Watch the video Also it’s not 6 abilities, auto attacks count and the grade goes up just by using a different attack than the one before, like hit combo in WoW You can auto q auto q auto q and be at S
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Oh my god Samira is insanely sick and I'm absolutely going to be playing her as much as possible regardless of how good or bad she may be
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I can't parse it easily, does it look like the ranged/melee autos she can do depending on distance to the target count as different for the purposes of raising her rank or not?
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thebardyspoon posted:I can't parse it easily, does it look like the ranged/melee autos she can do depending on distance to the target count as different for the purposes of raising her rank or not? Yes e: her dash being enemy/ally targeted only is gonna make people feed on her so hard though, It is a quasi-Lee Sin safeguard retreat if you get the takedown Firebert fucked around with this message at 17:45 on Aug 30, 2020 |
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The main thing that counters Samira is most likely lockdown. Nautilus is a hard counter to her unless his ult is counted as a projectile? Then again, he also has Q and AA's to lock her down and she needs to get in melee range to get the most out of her abilities. She's still probably going to be really strong, but I can see potential counterpicks in melee champions that have point and click cc (Panth, Leona?, Naut etc.). I can tell you right now that Yuumi is going to be her best friend. Someone that can get into the enemy, protect me from damage and is a carry? Sign me the gently caress up. She also dicks on enchanters and mage supports, so that sucks cause that's pretty much all my favourite champions.
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Firebert posted:Watch the video Granted we still havent seen any "real" gameplay of her yet so who knows but that still feels like a lot of setup necessary for a short range, limited mobility carry in a meta where ADCs infamously get one-shotted all the time to have to pull off. Anyway we'll have to see where she lands in the medium term I think because as you said this is a 35% winrate launch in the making from the learning curve alone
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She seems like a character that's going to get the Akali treatment of being completely insane in pro play and slowly but surely kneecapped for everyone else over the next year
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Elvis_Maximus posted:She seems like a character that's going to get the Akali treatment of being completely insane in pro play and slowly but surely kneecapped for everyone else over the next year I'm more doubtful. She seems like a very high risk, high reward pick, which is something that professional players inherently shy away from in stage games. Consistency matters a lot more than the potential to pop off.
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