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twistedmentat posted:Isn't there a sci-fi series that at the end they find out they're inside an artificial environment even if its a standard fantasy world and the end of it is the wizards and knights walking through a space station? Unsure about books, but you've basically described most of the Might and Magic RPG games. The Phantasy Star series to a lesser extent too, it's a little more explicitly known about in that setting.
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stinky ox posted:However in order to initiate the cloning process they had to use... horse semen. And, well, not to go into detail but let's just say they didn't use artificial insemination methods. SpaceJam on BluRay posted:so i have a contribution.... From my childhood The potential for crossover fics is incredible!
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Bell_ posted:Perhaps I'll give it a shot. I bailed on the series after Crossroads at somethingorother. No sunk-cost fallacy could save my interest in how the series ended. yeah, don't waste your time reading bad books, wikipedia is more than enough for that series
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Aug 30, 2020 09:29
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Zeniel posted:The loving Zybourne Clock map is better than the Gor map!  it's a great one
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ChubbyChecker posted:
Slums, well known for being the exact same size as upper class areas
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Aesop Poprock posted:It's been so long since I read these that I can't remember or find the books by the name. It could have just been one book with multiple stories? I'll give my best to tber the stories here this was a dragonlance fanfic anthology where they collected short stories from different authors in the universe and then published them this one was in Dragons of Krynn specifically I looked it up and the draconians were in "The First Dragonarmy Bridging Company" by Don Perrin gently caress there was also a short story called "Scourge of the Wicked Kendragon" in Dragons of Krynn and I hate it already
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yr new gurlfrand! posted:this was a dragonlance fanfic anthology where they collected short stories from different authors in the universe and then published them lmao
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Bismuth posted:Slums, well known for being the exact same size as upper class areas And right next door too!
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Do you think there's still a market for bad sci-fi/fantasy pulp? Not that I'd sell well because I prefer to keep my sex fantasies separate from my regular work.
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Aug 30, 2020 11:00
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super sweet best pal posted:Do you think there's still a market for bad sci-fi/fantasy pulp? Not that I'd sell well because I prefer to keep my sex fantasies separate from my regular work. Idk, nowadays I think people just publish their weird fetishes on fanfic sites. I really wouldn't be surprised if a lot of these started out as weird fanfics and since there was no internet in the 70s their only way to share their kinks with the world was to publish them
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Aug 30, 2020 11:25
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i can't remember what it was called, but there was this one fantasy series whose author openly admitted that he came up with it while tripping his balls off. it was about a civilization where people could take physical attributes from each other, and the one who was taken from would be permanently disabled as long as both parties were alive. each person could only contribute one physical attribute, and each would cause a different disability. the taker had to essentially run hospices for the dozens or more of people who were empowering them. also, all of this poo poo stacked. so the main conflict was between some invading king who had taken so many stats that he had essentially become an invincible living god and a prince who tried to catch up by taking as many as he could get his hands on. it wasn't really all that good, but dang if it wasn't weird.
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Aug 30, 2020 12:21
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also, the treatment for leprosy predates thomas covenant by a few years. so even the central premise of the series was always bullshit.
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ChubbyChecker posted:
I was more thinking of the other one that had a place called Book World. EDIT: This one! 
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Aug 30, 2020 12:26
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:also, the treatment for leprosy predates thomas covenant by a few years. so even the central premise of the series was always bullshit. poo poo, I was thinking that but kept forgetting to look up when leprosy was cured vs the books age Maybe its biblical leprosy, where they just called any gross skin disease leprosy
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This is definitely a derail, but who wants to know what actually happened to lepers in actual medieval Europe??quote:Before the leper is committed to the enclosure, his isolation is sanctified by a special church ritual. The unfortunate victim is brought to the tribunal of the diocesan official and examined by surgeons. The “separation” is pronounced the following Sunday. The unhappy man, dressed in a shroud, is carried to the church on a litter by four priests singing the psalm, “Libera me.” Inside the church the litter is set down at a safe distance from the congregation. The service of the dead is read. Then, again singing the psalm, the clergy carry the leper out of the church, through the streets, out of town, to the leper colony. He is given a pair of castanets, a pair of gloves, and a bread basket. After the singing of the “De profundis” the priest intones, “Sis mortuus mundo, vivens iterum Deo” (Be thou dead to this world, living again to God), concluding, “I forbid you ever to enter a church or a monastery, a mill, a bakery, a market, or any place where there is an assemblage of people. I forbid you to quit your house without your leper’s costume and castanets. I forbid you to bathe yourself or your possessions in stream or fountain or spring. I forbid you to have commerce with any woman except her whom you have married in the Holy Church. I forbid you if anyone speaks to you on the road to answer till you have placed yourself below the wind.” Then everyone leaves the poor victim condemned to a living death.
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Aug 30, 2020 14:01
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super sweet best pal posted:Do you think there's still a market for bad sci-fi/fantasy pulp? Not that I'd sell well because I prefer to keep my sex fantasies separate from my regular work. Let me introduce you to the millions of gigs of space taken up on Amazon's servers under the aegis of self publishing
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Aug 30, 2020 14:07
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:also, the treatment for leprosy predates thomas covenant by a few years. so even the central premise of the series was always bullshit. Does it predate the publishing date or when the author started writing it. Cause if I'd written a book hinging on a disease that got cured while I was writing it, I'd probably just go "oh this was before the cure".
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Aug 30, 2020 14:09
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A Sometimes Food posted:Does it predate the publishing date or when the author started writing it. Finally just googled it: there was effective treatment by the 1940s, the author was born in 1947, so yes there was a cure before the books were written
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Aug 30, 2020 14:14
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Bismuth posted:Finally just googled it: there was effective treatment by the 1940s, the author was born in 1947, so yes there was a cure before the books were written I'm pretty sure he worked or lived outside the US at a leaper colony, and experienced first hand how people were treated, which is the reason he wanted to try and make a fantasy hero based on one. I think it was in the author's forward.
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Comstar posted:I'm pretty sure he worked or lived outside the US at a leaper colony, and experienced first hand how people were treated, which is the reason he wanted to try and make a fantasy hero based on one. I think it was in the author's forward. "Fantasy hero" that rapes and then spends several books suffering more and more outlandish and contrived consequences for that rape e: not that there shouldnt be consequences, but maybe more normal/solid ones than the uh...weird poo poo that happens in the books Also that vvvv Bismuth fucked around with this message at 15:06 on Aug 30, 2020 |
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Aug 30, 2020 15:03
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maybe he shouldn't have made his hero into an american white dude who would have had access to a cure, then.
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CaptainSarcastic posted:One thing I haven't seen mentioned so far is Terry Brooks' "Wordcount of Shannara" series. I know I read at least one of those things, but don't remember anything more than it was really long and generally boring. I read at least one and I remember only that one of the main characters was named Alanon, which I found really distracting. My Dragonlance buddy really liked those, too. gimme the GOD drat candy posted:also, the treatment for leprosy predates thomas covenant by a few years. so even the central premise of the series was always bullshit. I have a vague memory that this is addressed in text... there's some hand-wave like cell phones not working in horror movies? ok, I looked it up: he just didn't discover it right away, and when he got diagnosed his wife wigged out and fled with their kid. it was cured, but not before he lost two fingers. someone recommended those books to me and I could not get past that scene. or rather, the next scene, where her mother symbolically stabs the earth, since she can't kill the chosen one, even though she really wants to and the law allows it
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Bismuth posted:Finally just googled it: there was effective treatment by the 1940s, the author was born in 1947, so yes there was a cure before the books were written To be clear, in the books he has been treated for leprosy, so he isn't completely an invalid or anything, but he lost a lot of the sensation in his extremities and it didn't come back. He's a bitter man though, and he blames the leprosy for his marriage falling apart and some of the locals inexplicably torment him over it.
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Philthy posted:I read the first one about a year ago and what blew my mind is that he thought of all of this in the 1940s. Today everything has copied a lot of it, so it really wasn't anything new. But back then it had to be like.. holy fuckballs crazy awesome. It was a bit boring, so I never made it to the second or third. I guess I can appreciate the ground work Asimov laid with it. His Robot series was more insightful, almost on par with Arthur C Clarke. Then when you find it crossing over with Foundation books, whoo boy
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Zeniel posted:The loving Zybourne Clock map is better than the Gor map! The Gor map looks like a map of a circuit E: super sweet best pal posted:Do you think there's still a market for bad sci-fi/fantasy pulp? Not that I'd sell well because I prefer to keep my sex fantasies separate from my regular work. I was watching some thing on ytube and apparently theres an immensely influential self publishing hub in Japan thats responsible for 90 percent of fantasy anime adoptions. Learn some Kanji people Shageletic fucked around with this message at 19:24 on Aug 30, 2020 |
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Zeniel posted:Unsure about books, but you've basically described most of the Might and Magic RPG games. The Phantasy Star series to a lesser extent too, it's a little more explicitly known about in that setting. Nope that's exactly it. It was the game, not a book. Does Empress Theresa count for this thread?
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Batterypowered7 posted:Has anyone read the Coldfire Trilogy? It wasn't amazing, but it did have some things I did like. The planet the series takes place* in has some quirk where a person's mental state/thoughts affect the outcome of things, so things like firearms are super risky to use because even thinking about the possibility of a misfire can make one happen. In one of the books, the main character comes across a group of people so indoctrinated by a church to believe that their god protects them, that they can fire guns because they have absolute faith that nothing wrong will happen. You didn’t mention the anti-hero protagonist being an anime nobleman vampire
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stinky ox posted:This thread brought back memories of a very peculiar scifi/fantasy novel I read when I was in my early teens. I used to get armfuls of scifi books from my local library, of all kinds of quality, some good, some not so good, and this one was... surprising, to say the least. That sounds like quite a book. This quote from one of the longer reviews seems pretty informative: quote:If cannabalism and sex with horses is how to save the human race, maybe it's better to let humans die. There are lines that shouldn't be crossed.... and to think that the author of this book thinks she's a feminist...
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Are horses oppressing anyone in this wild scenario?
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Colonel Cancer posted:Are horses oppressing anyone in this wild scenario? Oppressing this rear end
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HelloIAmYourHeart posted:I think so, and maybe the ship minds had actually been humans at one point who had their consciousness transplanted into ships? I feel like whatever the actual story was has to be at least twice as bonkers as what I'm remembering. I'm going to admit I sort of liked the premise but because it's hosed up, like, these kids get put into balls and trained to operate ships from the age where they're too young to enter into any sort of contract, if this is the best treatment they have for their conditions it should be covered under that, and then as adults they should be, idk, taking work contracts but not have it be indentured servitude at any point, just 'if you want a super cool ship body you're going to have to do an actual job that goes along with that'. The story of the books themselves ranged from mediocre to batshit insane gross, sometimes in the same book. EDIT: Like the one I remember most is about a shipmind named Simon who really liked playing battlefield strategy sims and who discovered a scrawny orphan stowed away in him that he adopts, which is cute and unironically not at all weird. He runs a space station? But then the book goes into, okay, so the space station is attacked by brutal transhuman warriors from a colony that started as a prison colony on an almost uninhabitable hellworld who take over the space station and rape people, and Simon has to use ~~strategy~~ to deal with them while being limited in what he can do because he is the station but he doesn't exactly have like, internal guns. It was just a lot of weird sexualized violence and also a feeling of, so why did this happen in the first place? Who decided it was a good idea to dump people on a hellworld as punishment? Doesn't that just punish their innocent children? Yes, yes it does. PetraCore fucked around with this message at 01:01 on Aug 31, 2020 |
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Piers Anthony would often put extremely self-aware afterwords in many of his books, where he would openly call himself and his readers pervs. He wanted Xanth to be four books long. By like, book 12 he was wroting things like "imagine you find an aging circus lion amd you nurse it back to health, only to discover that it would only eat puns, and so you're stuck at a typewriter writing puns non-stop to feed this lion that you just can't let die because then you killed this weak lion that needs you to survive" Another was a recounting of a letter from a fam telling him how her young daughter was hit by a drunk driver and paraplegized. To bring life to her, she would read her the Xanth books. He eventually wrote her into the novels to do something nice for the child, but his first response on reading the letter was "Oh my GOD...people are reading my books to kids!?!
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super sweet best pal posted:Do you think there's still a market for bad sci-fi/fantasy pulp? Not that I'd sell well because I prefer to keep my sex fantasies separate from my regular work. yeah, sure. it's called litrpg/gamelit. sell them through KU and you can make an absolute killing, providing you're willing to write... well, browse some of the sample chapters on amazon.
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Inverted Icon posted:Piers Anthony would often put extremely self-aware afterwords in many of his books, where he would openly call himself and his readers pervs. He wanted Xanth to be four books long. By like, book 12 he was wroting things like "imagine you find an aging circus lion amd you nurse it back to health, only to discover that it would only eat puns, and so you're stuck at a typewriter writing puns non-stop to feed this lion that you just can't let die because then you killed this weak lion that needs you to survive" That's how Jenny the Elf was created wasn't it?
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Imagine being that teenager that ran away from home in order to go live with Piers Anthony. That has got to be the most embarrassing poo poo
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Inverted Icon posted:"imagine you find an aging circus lion amd you nurse it back to health, only to discover that it would only eat puns, and so you're stuck at a typewriter writing puns non-stop to feed this lion that you just can't let die because then you killed this weak lion that needs you to survive" ...that's literally the plot of a Xanth book, isn't it? Also I feel like all the stuff with Piers Anthony and kids gets real goddamn unfortunate when you read some of his non-Xanth stuff and put together that he's at the bare minimum a hardcore apologist for pedophiles, if not straight-up a pedophile himself
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WeedlordGoku69 posted:...that's literally the plot of a Xanth book, isn't it? I liked the one where the dude goes into the magic tapestry and explores a historical snapshot, but there was a tiny spider on the tapestry, so it's a huge spider in the virtual world, and he's friends with the huge spider.
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PetraCore posted:Right, like, I feel like at best he explored stuff through fiction he knew better than to touch irl, which makes it really unfortunate that the Xanth books were pretty attractive to me as a young teen bc of all the dumb bullshit puns. Iirc in the Let's Read thread in the book barn, that's like... the only book that had a positive response .
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The word "Pern" makes me feel super uncomfortable, and I don't know why. Like the sound itself is really unpleasant.
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WeedlordGoku69 posted:...that's literally the plot of a Xanth book, isn't it? I see you've read The Isle of Women too.
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