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anakha posted:
They're gonna get SO BIG.
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Kenning posted:Real life, I wish there was some mechanism to buy kensho that we were able to follow. One banner is only $600! We could definitely sponsor a goon banner. According to this, sponsors are expected to buy at least one kensho per day of a basho, so assuming there's no way around that, that shoots the cost up to $9000. I wonder, were kensho a thing in pre-modern times? Like, instead of corporations, did they have feudal lords and such sponsoring sumo back in the 1700s and showing family emblems? Pakled fucked around with this message at 19:26 on Aug 24, 2020 |
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Aug 24, 2020 19:20
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Any updates on the boys who ran away or the stolen gear with memento?
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Aug 24, 2020 21:45
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Pakled posted:According to this, sponsors are expected to buy at least one kensho per day of a basho, so assuming there's no way around that, that shoots the cost up to $9000. Question: if you did manage to blow $9k on a set of banners, who would you put it on? I think Hak or last match is pretty boring. I’d want to put mine on any match that features a newcomer to the division (unless they are some hotshot prospect that is already getting respect) or a Juryo visitor because they’d probably appreciate it more and could use the money. If I had to pick a guy, I’d go with Kagayaki, who I’ve always had a soft spot for because of his old shiny gold mawshi and he fits the bill of a guy that doesn’t get much love.
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Aug 24, 2020 22:32
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pseudodragon posted:Question: if you did manage to blow $9k on a set of banners, who would you put it on? I think Hak or last match is pretty boring. I’d want to put mine on any match that features a newcomer to the division (unless they are some hotshot prospect that is already getting respect) or a Juryo visitor because they’d probably appreciate it more and could use the money. If I had to pick a guy, I’d go with Kagayaki, who I’ve always had a soft spot for because of his old shiny gold mawshi and he fits the bill of a guy that doesn’t get much love. Chiyomaru. Each banner would just be a different picture of him sleeping.
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Aug 24, 2020 22:37
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Pakled posted:I wonder, were kensho a thing in pre-modern times? Like, instead of corporations, did they have feudal lords and such sponsoring sumo back in the 1700s and showing family emblems? I don’t know the answer to this BUT there were rich people in the Edo Period who were not samurai or nobles. Like there were the first department stores in the Edo Period and lower ranked samurai who had nothing to do and not much pay would sometimes be in debt to rich merchants. So it wouldn’t surprise me if there were ads for like Mitsukoshi in the form of sponsorships.
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Aug 25, 2020 06:54
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This is almost certainly too late to affect the very next tournament, but looks like another spot just opened up in Juryo. 25 year old Kizakiumi announced his retirement after just 3 years in professional Sumo. Edit: Oh, here's the reason: https://twitter.com/SumoFollower/status/1298905255648923648 Brut fucked around with this message at 10:00 on Aug 27, 2020 |
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Aug 27, 2020 08:16
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Aw, that's a bummer. Feel bad for him. And yeah, this won't affect the banzuke, since it gets written immediately after the basho. This just means there will be makushita visitors to juryo to make the daily schedule work.
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Aug 27, 2020 17:42
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Kenning posted:Aw, that's a bummer. Feel bad for him. Yeah, 25 is a bad age to have to retire due to chronic pain. Hopefully getting out helps him recover so he can actually have a decent quality of life. But unless someone else is gone, juryo should be clean since he empties out a spot, but that would be balanced out by the guy going up every day to take Abi’s spot. That all goes out the window once the tourney starts and other injuries hit of course, but Day 1 juryo should just have one less match than usual but no visitors.
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Aug 27, 2020 18:30
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Always sad to see someone go out of their chosen sport young because of injury. Fortunately he has a degree so has something to fall back on.
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Aug 27, 2020 18:31
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pseudodragon posted:Yeah, 25 is a bad age to have to retire due to chronic pain. Hopefully getting out helps him recover so he can actually have a decent quality of life. Ah right, I forgot Abi is gonna be juryo ranked but not fighting.
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Aug 27, 2020 19:16
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bessantj posted:Fortunately he has a degree so has something to fall back on. that's good. i expect the answer to be 'lol, no', but does sumo (as an org) help guys in his situation in any way?
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Aug 28, 2020 00:01
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Kenning posted:Ah right, I forgot Abi is gonna be juryo ranked but not fighting. I doubt they're gonna make the rankings drop any steeper than normal, 3-12 from M5e shouldn't land him in Juryo just yet.
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Aug 28, 2020 00:06
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Marching Powder posted:that's good. Not from the NSK, but some of the luckier ones might get some help from the community. I've heard that the stable sponsors will sometimes hire dudes at their companies and stuff like that, but unless they make the pro ranks, there's no pension or anything official.
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Aug 28, 2020 03:57
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pseudodragon posted:Not from the NSK, but some of the luckier ones might get some help from the community. I've heard that the stable sponsors will sometimes hire dudes at their companies and stuff like that, but unless they make the pro ranks, there's no pension or anything official. yeah just as i thought and some extra info. thanks.
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Aug 28, 2020 05:35
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Just to expand a little: https://www.japantimes.co.jp/sports/2019/01/24/sumo/sumo-101-koenkai/ If you're lucky, koenkai connections can land you a job or help set you up with a restaurant, which is a relatively common thing after intai. If you gently caress off your koenkai, like Akebono did with his marriage post retirement, you can quickly have no support at all. Staying on the good side of your oyakata can help too. There was a making up between Harumafuji and Takanoiwa after the latter retired. I wish I could find the article, but Takanohana essentially told Takanoiwa to go gently caress himself after retirement and he was left with no support. I think Hamfu had been reaching out for reconciliation for a while, and Takanoiwa needed a helping hand.
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Aug 28, 2020 07:54
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Kizakiumi suffering his career ending injury. His onsite treatment consisted of laying there for awhile and walking himself out. https://twitter.com/tachiai_blog/status/1299290088732491781?s=21
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Aug 28, 2020 22:09
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The dohyo doesn't need to be that high off the ground. Sumo would improve greatly if it weren't for "we've done it this way for 800 years."
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Aug 28, 2020 23:49
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https://twitter.com/BODYINTEGLATION/status/1299301399155453952
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Aug 29, 2020 10:38
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Now try it without moving your legs.
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Aug 29, 2020 18:16
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banzuke's out! terunofuji up all the way to m1e, daiesho got the extra sekiwake slot, ikioi got demoted and ichinojo's at the bottom m17e slot despite losing the exchange match
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Aug 30, 2020 23:30
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Ugh gently caress Ichi’s back
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Aug 30, 2020 23:38
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Ichi owns.
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Aug 30, 2020 23:39
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And a whole bunch of guys are down in Juryo. (Except for the ones who'll be filling out makuuchi with Abi's absence and Ichinojo's lopsided rank.)
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Aug 30, 2020 23:43
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Hoshoryu coming up should be interesting. He’s been talked up as the next great Mongolian star for awhile now so it should be fun to see if he can live up to the hype.
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Aug 31, 2020 00:10
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Kenning posted:Ichi owns. 
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Aug 31, 2020 03:10
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Tochinoshin's back up to M4W!
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Liquid Communism posted:Tochinoshin's back up to M4W! That’s the biggest shocker for me. Let’s hope the dust in his knees arranges itself into a useful shape for another basho.
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Aug 31, 2020 04:21
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Thauros posted:banzuke's out! Alright, let's see what's going on Ura up to Makushita #5, with a good Sep basho say 5-2 or 6-1 he could be back up to salaried level before 2021. Fukai going from Sandanme #67 to Makushita #41, it'll be his third basho in September. Be interesting to see how he does with such a big leap in rankings. Hokuseiho a man who has yet to lose a bout in a basho (he has only been in one mind) has risen from Jonokuchi #18 to Jonidan #14. His heya is Miyagino which, of course, is the home to Enhō, Ishiura and Hakuhō. bessantj fucked around with this message at 10:28 on Aug 31, 2020 |
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Aug 31, 2020 09:11
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bessantj posted:Hokuseiho a man who has yet to lose a bout in a basho (he has only been in one mind) has risen from Jonokuchi #18 to Jonidan #14. His heya is Miyagino which, of course, is the home to Enhō, Ishiura and Hakuhō. Dude is 200cm tall, 158kg and only 18! Jesus, is Hakuho over his small Rikishi thing and just wants someone to clobber dudes?
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Aug 31, 2020 09:54
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I'm obviously super happy about Takayasu doing well and climbing back up somewhat but I'm trying to keep it in check until he can put together two or three good basho. My gut tells me he's just going to be a middling maegashira until his various joints give out. Absolutely nothing would give me more pleasure than to be wrong and watch him dominate again.
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Aug 31, 2020 14:43
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Martytoof posted:I'm obviously super happy about Takayasu doing well and climbing back up somewhat but I'm trying to keep it in check until he can put together two or three good basho. My gut tells me he's just going to be a middling maegashira until his various joints give out. Yeah, Takayasu is one of my faves, but unless he goes the route of sitting out a tournament or two to really heal up and make a run, I don’t know if his body can hold together long enough to make a real run. And he’s probably too old to go full Terunofuji and still have time to make it back before age takes its toll so just hanging around and hoping for the best is probably his best option. I could see him having a Terunofuji like performance where an injury drops him low enough in the rankings where his skill can still let him dominate the bottom rankers even if he’s not physically 100%.
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Aug 31, 2020 15:37
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Banzuke for Fantasy purposes: Y/O: Y - Hakuho, Kakuryu O - Asanoyama, Takakeisho S/K: S - Shodai, Mitakeumi, Daieisho K - Okinoumi, Endo M1-5: M1 - Terunofuji, Takanosho M2 - Hokutofuji, Tamawashi M3 - Myogiryu, Terutsuyoshi M4 - Yutakayama, Toshinoshin M5 - Kiribayama, Takarafuji M6-10: M6 - Takayasu, Kagayaki M7 - Ryuden, Aoiyama M8 - Tokushoryu, Wakatakakage M9 - Enho, Onosho M10 - Sadanoumi, Kotoeko M11+ M11 - Chiyotairyu, Kotoshogiku M12 - Kotoshoho, Kaisei M13 - Meisei, Ishiura M14 - Tobizaru, Abi  M15 - Shimanoumi, Shohozan M16 - Kyokutaisei, Hoshoryu M17 - Ichinojo (sorry for any misspellings) And the template: Pick three from each category. Y/O: Pick 1/Pick 2/Pick 3 S/K: Pick 1/Pick 2/Pick 3 M1-5: Pick 1/Pick 2/Pick 3 M6-10: Pick 1/Pick 2/Pick 3 M11+: Pick 1/Pick 2/Pick 3 some kinda jackal fucked around with this message at 02:27 on Sep 1, 2020 |
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Aug 31, 2020 18:51
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Ready for that ambling ichinojo-aioyama bout
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Martytoof posted:Banzuke for Fantasy purposes: You're a hero.
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edited to have three of each category, first time sorry: Y/O: Asanoyama / Hakuho / Kakuryu S/K: Mitakeumi / Shodai / Endo M1-5: Terunofuji / Tamawashi / Hokutofuji M6-10: Aoiyama / Wakatakakage / Kotoeko M11+: Meisei / Ichinojo / Kaisei Gerund fucked around with this message at 21:02 on Aug 31, 2020 |
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Aug 31, 2020 20:24
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think enho is going to have a good basho this time? i think the other rikishi might have him figured out. 
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Aug 31, 2020 20:39
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Helianthus Annuus posted:think enho is going to have a good basho this time? i think the other rikishi might have him figured out. I will never not back my favorite tiny man, through thick or... slightly less thick. Edit: getting my picks in Y/O: Asanoyama / Kakuryu / Hakuho S/K: Endo / Mitakeumi / Shodai M1-5: Terutsuyoshi / Takarafuji / Takanosho M6-10: Enho / Kotoeko / Wakatakakage M11+: Kotonosho / QuasiQuack fucked around with this message at 07:40 on Sep 12, 2020 |
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Aug 31, 2020 20:43
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Guess we doing this now Y/O: Asanoyama / Takakeisho / Kakuryu S/K: Daieisho / Shodai / Mitakeumi M1-5: Takanosho / Toshinoshin / Terunofuji M6-10: Wakatakakage / Enho / Takayasu M11+: Kyokutaisei / Ichinojo / Hoshoryu Foehammer007 fucked around with this message at 00:19 on Sep 13, 2020 |
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Hi new friends! Pick three from each category, not just one  I updated the banzuke post to suggest this.
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